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Study: People Would Rather Be Shocked Than Be Alone With Their Thoughts

sciencehabit writes "How much do we hate being alone with our own thoughts? Enough to give ourselves an electric shock. In a new study, researchers recruited hundreds of people and made them sit in an empty room and just think for about 15 minutes. About half of the volunteers hated the experience. In a separate experiment, 67% of men and 25% of women chose to push a button and shock themselves rather than just sit there quietly and think. One of the study authors suggests that the results may be due to boredom and the trouble that we have controlling our thoughts. "I think [our] mind is built to engage in the world," he says. "So when we don't give it anything to focus on, it's kind of hard to know what to do."

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  1. How fitting by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The two foes of human happiness are pain and boredom"

      Arthur Schopenhauer

    1. Re:How fitting by JMJimmy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Every time I read these types of studies I am baffled. I could sit in an empty room for days without issue. Just cause you're alone doesn't mean you're without stimuli - I actually enjoy sitting pondering problems and get annoyed when someone comes and distracts me from it.

    2. Re:How fitting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can pace and think for hours, but I can't do that while sitting down. I think it's because my favorite activity in the world (apart from sex) is to go into the woods for hours on end, alone. Often take a canteen of water and a knife and just wander in the woods off the beaten path and think.

      Last time I found a miniature junkyard, can't even see it from satellite pictures thanks to the dense canopy. Rusted cars, construction equipment and debris, random vegetation, complete quiet.

    3. Re:How fitting by jythie · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Extroverts are 'people', introverts are abnormal. When studies discover behavior closely tied to extroverted personalty types it is considered something about 'people' in general, while studies discovering behaviors related to introverts tend to be labeled as being about introverts.

      It is the classic normal/default/otherness problem, in the same basic category as when you draw a simple stick figure people think it is male unless you add something gender marking, male unless otherwise specified. In this case, extrovert unless otherwise specified.

    4. Re:How fitting by FilmedInNoir · · Score: 5, Funny

      But the button? THE SHINY RED BUTTON! Calling out to you. Begging to be pressed. How long can you last? How long?!?!

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    5. Re:How fitting by oneandoneis2 · · Score: 4, Insightful
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    6. Re:How fitting by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Every time I read these types of studies I am baffled. I could sit in an empty room for days without issue. Just cause you're alone doesn't mean you're without stimuli - I actually enjoy sitting pondering problems and get annoyed when someone comes and distracts me from it.

      A million times THIS!

      One of the things I ponder is that these people who cannot be alone with themselves place that need to never be alone as some sort of proper and good state, and that anyone who can function by themselves is the outlier, the weirdo, the one "you have to look out for." How many times to we see the story about some crackpot that shoots up a school or McDonalds, and the writer feels compelled to mention that they were a "loner". Validation for people who think that their inability to be alone protects them from that fate. Sorry, but the crackpot was mentally ill, that's why they shot the place up, not because they enjoyed solitude.

      When in fact, if a person cannot be alone with their thoughts, perhaps they have the mental issue. I rather enjoy my own company,

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    7. Re:How fitting by Bogtha · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I could sit in an empty room for days without issue.

      So could I. But if I was sat in an empty room with a button that gave me a shock, I'd definitely press it - not because I couldn't handle the boredom, but just to see what it's like. I'm not sure this study really measures what it intends to.

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    8. Re:How fitting by just_a_monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      So we need to install this in prisons' solitary confinement. Then, after the novelty wears off, we'll finally know.

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    9. Re:How fitting by alvinrod · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If the majority of people are extroverted, how would it not be considered normal or typical behavior? The problem comes from assuming that anyone who isn't normal must have something horribly wrong with them. The number of people who are normal in most every regard must be incredibly small, which by definition also means that they're not normal.

      Either some attribute is the typical state for a person, so our brains will assume it's true unless given sufficient reason to believe otherwise, or there's another likely explanation for the behavior. In the case of the stick figure, assuming that it's drawn as plainly as possible, it better matches the mind's pattern for men due to a lack of hair and a lack of breasts. If we lived in a culture where women had flat chests and shaved their heads and men wore their hair long, most people would probably default to calling the stick figure a woman.

      Our brains are fairly good at recognizing patterns and will often try to find them in places where none exist. Even if the number of introverts and extroverts are the same, it could be simple confirmation bias as you're far more likely to engage with extroverts while introverts will keep more to themselves.

    10. Re:How fitting by war4peace · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It's okay to be an extrovert, but if you can't think alone for 15 minutes, that makes you ADHD (Or ADD)-prone.
      My take: the inability to just sit tight and think for 15 minutes is a result of how society and way of living are shaped nowadays. Instant gratification, stimuli overload, everything is faster than the speed of thought (literally).

      People get used to that way of doing things and that way of living, and when you get them out of their perceived "natural" environment, they freak out. Quite normal, all things considering, might I say.

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    11. Re:How fitting by marcello_dl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Before MTV, cellphones and in general the sensory overload of contemporary urban life, extroverts could stay with themselves for 15 minutes too.

      Introverts are to be considered uncool, not because they are more or less abnormal (the media hype, and therefore sanction, people with degenerate, inane, self-harming behavior: get a teenager's top 20 chart and listen to the lyrics).
      They are uncool because they think too much for themselves. The system improperly known as society want people who respond to emotions, not thinkers.

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    12. Re:How fitting by swillden · · Score: 4, Informative

      If the majority of people are extroverted, how would it not be considered normal or typical behavior?

      Per a 1998 study, 50.7% percent of Americans are introverts. http://introvertzone.com/ratio...

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    13. Re:How fitting by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The curious press a button that shocks them at least once; The masochistic press the button many more times, over and over, with rising passion and obsession until with a wild cry of raw lust their body shudders with intense release and they hear the soft singing of angels.

      Al Schopenhauer

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    14. Re:How fitting by eulernet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I believe that a lot of people need external stimuli to avoid boredom.
      In fact, my wife is like this and doesn't know how to busy herself.
      Meanwhile, I can sit down and be busy for hours without any support.

      It's probably related to the fact that I had to play alone when I was baby.
      Nowadays, I see parents always trying to stimulate their babies, who then become attention whores.
      They are building future extroverts.

    15. Re:How fitting by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      tl;dr

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    16. Re:How fitting by penguinoid · · Score: 4, Informative

      The study said that the subjects had previous experience with the button, and had said that they'd pay to avoid getting shocked again. It's not like the researchers were too stupid to account for the novelty factor (in this case).

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    17. Re:How fitting by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think it's a true statement that introverts recede into the mists unless lasso'd with the titanium chains of social discourse. We are human beings and are motivated by the usual impulses, just not the desire to necessarily be engaged with other people all the time or to do our critical thinking as part of a hive mind. Introverts do a) need money to finance our seclusion (in my personal experience, a proper hermitage in the modern world costs an incredible amount of money, I am still saving up), b) the desire to find a mate and c) the need to acquire goods to live and be happy.

      In the quest for these it is frequently put upon the innocent introvert to venture forth into the unholy wilderness of academia, shopping malls or simply city streets. Presented with the option to get a quick $50 for a survey or perhaps simply being intrigued by scientific inquiry, an introvert may willingly participate. Introversion is not the same as social anxiety, we are often known to voluntarily be in the presence of other human beings. It's simply that we prefer not to be, and perform best when left to ourselves.

    18. Re:How fitting by war4peace · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm Romanian, you inconsiderate clod.
      How well do you speak (or write, for that matter) my language?

      Anyway, thanks for correcting me, I appreciate it. What I don't appreciate is the unnecessary smug coating you simply HAD to pour in.

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  2. Sad, sad times... by brunes69 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    At first I assumed that the people were stuck n a room for hours upon hours with nothing to do. Then I read...


    "The period of time that Wilson and his colleagues asked participants to be alone with their thoughts ranged from six to 15 minutes. Many of the first studies involved college student participants, most of whom reported that this "thinking period" wasn't very enjoyable and that it was hard to concentrate. So Wilson conducted another study with participants from a broad selection of backgrounds, ranging in age from 18 to 77, and found essentially the same results.

    Is it just me or is it a very poor reflection on today's society if people can not just sit and think for 15 minutes?

    For the record I would have ZERO problem doing this at all... in fact I could think for hours... although having a pencil and paper to keep track of ideas and plans would be helpful.

    1. Re:Sad, sad times... by dargaud · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I also found this very strange I'm both extrovert and introvert, meaning I have to problem taking with groups of people, even at the center of attention sometimes. But I can be alone. I'm a climber and I've done numerous solo ascents and expeditions, the longest was 28 days alone. It's a good thing that nobody was around because of the smell, but I didn't have any problem 'being with myself'. I even think that people who can't stand 'being with themselves' are not people _I_ want to be with in the first place !!! I mean, if they can't stand themselves, why should I ?!?

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  3. Buddhist meditation... by Noryungi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... And just about any form of meditation revolves about emptying your mind, focusing on your breathing and discarding thoughts (after examination) rather than dwell on them.

    I just read this study as an example of how people are completely disconnected from their own inner life and addicted to constant stimulation. Seriously, an electric shock instead of enjoying a little bit of peace and quiet and a chance to gather yourself? What kind of total lack of self-control is that?

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    1. Re:Buddhist meditation... by moeinvt · · Score: 4, Informative

      The concept of the "mind monkey" has been around for centuries in Buddhism. i.e. the mind sort of naturally jumps around like a monkey. When I took a yoga class that included meditation, the instructor said that you need to give your mind something to do. That's why you focus on your breathing. He said to let your thoughts come and go but treat them as if you were an outside observer and return your focus to your breath.
      The constant flow of information we have today absolutely must affect out psychology. Maybe our minds jump around even more? I think the goal of meditation remains the same.

  4. Re:How is this different from sensory deprivation? by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sensory deprivation experiments, partial or full, have been going on for decades. How is this 'news' to the scientific community?

    Maybe because this isn't really about classic "sensory deprivation." In one phase of the experiment, they even let people sit in their own homes and just asked them to just think quietly for 6 to 15 minutes. I'd hardly call that "sensory deprivation." Most people apparently HATED the experience (even more than they hated sitting quietly in a lab setting).

    I'm familiar with sensory deprivation studies, but personally I find it shocking (pardon the pun) that people are willing to self-administer painful shocks just to avoid being alone with their thoughts for 15 minutes. Don't you? Clearly the researchers did, given what they said in TFA. They even questioned why they should bother with the shock test, because they thought NO ONE would shock themselves. And yet nearly half did.

  5. Re:Just 15 minutes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd be interested to know the correlation between each candidate experience and whether they are introvert or extrovert on the Myers-Briggs scale.

  6. The Power of Now by transporter_ii · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Carl Jung tells in one of his books of a conversation he had with a Native American chief who pointed out to him that in his perception most white people have tense faces, staring eyes, and a cruel demeanor. He said: "They are always seeking something. What are they seeking? The whites always want something. They are always uneasy and restless. We don't know what they want. We think they are mad." ...

    The Buddha taught that the root of suffering is to be found in our constant wanting and craving.

    The Power of Now, p. 62 - 63.

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  7. Re: Just 15 minutes? by kqs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In related news,scientists have discovered a correlation between "thinks that signing up for experiments is fun" and "extrovert".

  8. We Aren't the World: Why Americans Make Bad Study by transporter_ii · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "This is just fascinating: Joe Henrich and his colleagues are shaking the foundations of psychology and economics, and explain why social science studies of Westerners — and Americans in particular — don't really tell us about the human condition: 'Given the data, they concluded that social scientists could not possibly have picked a worse population from which to draw broad generalizations. Researchers had been doing the equivalent of studying penguins while believing that they were learning insights applicable to all birds.'"

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  9. Wow... Definitely not hunters by paradxum · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So I can say that without any stimulation I can sit for about a day and a half without any real problem. I get along with me just fine.

    I know this rather well due to hunting deer in Wisconsin. Yes, you sit there for a little over a week with very limited interaction. You can't make noise, you can't move too much. It's you and nature. Yes it is a type of meditation when you are not seeing any deer. For me this is what happens:
    First half a day: I have tons of things to think about. Little niggling problems that I haven't had the time to sit and think about. Typically things like how can I best fix this at the house, what would the optimal method of doing this in this program be.

    Second half of the day: Things quiet down a bit start thinking about the Wife, kids, finances... Figuring out what to do when this one or that one does something, how to best react...etc.

    Day 2 first half: Hey look... nature... that tree is kinda neat... I wonder why it grew that way...

    Day2 second half: Ok, ummmm what now.... kinda bored... what time is it... oh, two minutes since I last checked.

    Day 3+: Find things to be interested in... a single squirrel or bird can be hours of entertainment and the highlight of your day.

    6-15 minutes!?!? Man, I haven't even finished thinking about that hot girl I saw on the way in! lol

  10. Re:Just 15 minutes? by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Actually the PR does say they started with college students and then found some older people to play with

    I was told once by someone doing their Masters in Psychology that the vast majority of research starts on university students, exactly as you initially described, and then moves onto a broader pool of people to eliminate that as a variable.

    But undergraduate university students are probably the most studied group on the planet from a psychology perspective, precisely because for a little extra credit, or a small amount of cash, they're a readily available pool of subjects.

    Which is odd, because you'd think by now someone would understand them. ;-)

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  11. Re:Bears? by khallow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, can't speak for the original poster, but where there's woods, there's wood. Knives can do interesting things with wood.

  12. Re:Just 15 minutes? by Gim+Tom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    INTJ and 15 minutes of just thinking are no problem. Even less so since I began doing some meditation a bit over a year ago.

  13. Re:Just 15 minutes? by Gibgezr · · Score: 3, Funny

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