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Rightscorp Pushing ISPs To Disconnect Repeat Infringers
Torrentfreak acquired slides from the Anti-Piracy and Content Protection Summit indicating that Rightscorp wants ISPs to disconnect repeat copyright infringers, and that 140 small ISPs are already doing so. From the article: Christopher Sabec, CEO of Rightscorp, says that they have been in talks with various Internet providers urging them to step up their game. Thus far a total of 140 ISPs are indeed following this disconnection principle. ... By introducing disconnections Rightcorp hopes to claim more settlements to increase the company’s revenue stream. They offer participating ISPs a tool to keep track of the number of warnings each customer receives, and the providers are encouraged to reconnect the subscribers if the outstanding bills have been paid. ... Cutting off repeat infringers is also in the best interests of ISPs according to Rightscorp, who note that it is a requirement for all providers if they are to maintain their DMCA safe harbor.
The presentation slides seem to indicate that Rightscorp is planning to go after the safe harbor protections that ISPs are given under the DMCA in order to force the issue.
How can a company be a threat to an ISP's DMCA safe harbor status without actual court decisions to back up their copyright infringement claims?
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The most intriguing thing in this to me... ...is that they were able to identify 140 ISPs, presumably 130 or so of which were not owned by a regional monopoly phone company or a cable company.
Does anyone know where I can find the list of those 140 ISPs? I use EPB (gigabit) and would like to know if they are kissing media ass or not.
Learn english.
The real question cleverly ignored by these rights-maximalists is
"Is the ISP/provider responsible for the content posted by others."
As we know, absent *ACTUAL INDUCEMENT TO INFRINGE*
the answer is no. There is no secondary liability to ISPs nor
reponsibility as per the CDA sec 230.
Now if the ISPs *ACTUALLY INDUCE* (see Napster and possibly Mega,
or so USDOJ says), then there is a POSSIBLE liability.
THAT's the only thing providers need to fear, but instead they knee-jerk
take down material.
Note that the DMCA notice is not "DMCA Takedown notice" but rather
"Notice of ***CLAIMED INFRINGEMENT***" (emphasis mine).
A "safe harbor" doesn't mean that a LACK OF A SAFE HARBOR means
instant guilt/civil liability. That is a fact lost on most knee-jerk ISPs.
ISPs should pull up their big-boy shorts and quit taking it in the pants
from every email-script that tells them to take down content because DMCA.
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my script verifies that this is true under oath and here's my script-copied
pgp signature because dmca.
Dang, those guys who set up their DVR to upload every single show as soon as it hits the air are gonna get cut off.
Good news for downloaders! DMCA doesn't criminalize downloading. Consumers are safe, again.
Too bad I use a VPN, so I'll continue to download everything still as I always do before I buy it. It's not exactly like you can return shitty media, don't believe me go to Walmart and try it. They'll say no then after you bitch ten or twenty minuets they'll finally offer an exchange "thank god", but when you get back there they'll only let that exchange be the same piece of shit you're trying to return. It's at that point I get arrested for going ballistic, headbutting the guy trolling me and kicking the cash register half way across the store. What can I say, I had issues back then.
People love supporting stuff they love because it helps the people make more stuff they'll most likely love, downloading is consumer protection for me, I cannot afford 20$ for something I hate or even 1 cent.
Rightscorp is just looking to extort more people by holding their internet connection hostage, they're no better than scumbags that ran Prenda. What happens if I go on a warloading spree? "leeching wifi to download"
near you to ask them to make sure they don't sell computers to people who will pirate?
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
A reasonable, sane person would demand limiting a pirate's bandwidth; not disconnecting them completely.
We don't chop off the hands of thieves anymore.
(But we do put loonies in the loonie bin. Hmm!)
All rites reversed 2010
You assume that we wasted our time even trying.
I promise to locate and submit at least one copyright-infringing work that is not yet easily available into the standard pirate channels of circulation in protest. It'll probably be something very obscure, as all the mainstream stuff is already out there. I don't know what it'll be yet.
So we know which ISPs to avoid or if we should switch.
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So when is the film Song of the South or the TV series Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea coming to Netflix in North America?
It's a basic human right to have access to the Internet... except in the "land of the Free" of course.
When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
And more tools will arise that will drive people so far underground they will never figure out who is doing what. And the more publicity they get, the more 'regular' people will learn there is free stuff out there.
Lets call it the 'Napster effect'.. (tm)
---- Booth was a patriot ----
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Overview
Rightscorp, Inc. is dedicated to the vision that digital creative works should be protected economically so that the next generation of great music, movies, video games and software can be made and their creators can prosper."
Again with the falicy that copyright is here so that creators can prosper.
How do they expect me to keep downloading all these pirated movies if they keep shutting off my neighbors Internet connections....
It's like they want me to have to pay for a VPN or something :(
Rightscorp. Taking away rights where ever we can.
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I can't fathom why any ISPs in their right mind would go along with this crap.
Acting against your customer base in this way is a good way to lose customers and ruin your brand. I can only assume not all 140 ISPs have the luxury of not having to give a shit about their customers.
Most importantly taking punitive action against someone you *suspect* of breaking the law is itself illegal. By taking matters into your own hands you open yourself up to lawsuits from effected customers. SOPA/PIPA crashing and burning means no enabling legal cover.
Finally whenever you as an ISP give in to these demands and just do whatever is asked without taking necessary time to understand law you might as well be announcing you are an easy target via front page ad on the New York times... expect to be flooded with requests accordingly.
I used to work DMCA requests for a moderately large ISP. They are NOT disconnecting people for repeat abuse. They would never disconnect you because some 3rd party doesn't like what your using your connection for. You're a paying customer, and the rights hold is not. There is no financial incentive for them to disconnect you.
They will disconnect you if you're costing them money however. But for an ISP, that's a difficult thing to do. There are laws, and franchise agreements with the city. They're pretty much required to give you service, even if you cost them money... unless they can find an excuse to disconnect you. Like if you were a software pirate.
The moral of the story? If you live in an upscale apartment complex, where everyones got 1gig fiber connections, you're never getting disconnected. EVER. If you're 10 miles outside of town in a sparsely populated area with old decaying lines that the ISP has to constantly come out and repair, and every time you start up your torrent client the entire neighborhoods network crawls to a halt, it may be in your best interest to avoid doing things that would give your ISP and excuse to boot you.
Notice how they said a bunch of small rural ISPs were the only ones who'd started doing this. Yea, this has nothing to do with piracy and everything to do with getting rid of customers that are costing them money.
A number of companies have taken to monitoring *ALL* BT traffic of consequence on a *GLOBAL* basis. They know with high degree of coverage what everyone using bit torrent is trading.
This desperately needs to change. I'm no fan of piracy yet detailed metrics are being used to justify all manner of legislative craziness affecting everyone.
I don't claim to have any good solutions the market would be likely to embrace... we all need to find one soon.
It's 2014 people! Instead of insisting on getting yourself caught with direct connects and 'no log' vpns (subject to demands just the same, lol, idiots) ALL you stupid torrenters should go fire up https://geti2p.net/ , configure it to donate about five times the bandwidth you use back to the network, then TORRENT THE FUCK out of all the torrents there. :-)
Totally FREE, totally DARK, no fucking PIG MAFIAA, EVER gonna swoop your ass!!!
This means you don't have to HIT and RUN leech anymore like the little pussies you are. You can seed your entire collection 24x7x365 without giving the SLIGHTEST FUCK.
All you have to do is queue up whatever you want and come back in an hour or two for some FLAC's or maybe a day for a VOB9. I've got fuck all media now
English should have started with a capital letter.
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Also, they seem pretty ironically named; "rightscorp" ?
The name appears to derive from the phrase "exclusive rights" in the U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 8.
My point is that if something isn't available even on DVD decades later, it definitely won't be available on streaming. Rights come with responsibilities, and some people who otherwise obey copyright law might end up having to pirate in cases where a copyright owner violates its "copyresponsibility". If a film or TV series still lacks a home video release years after its theatrical or broadcast run, I guess some people who pirate it feel an other-than-legal justification that when a copyright owner acts like the proverbial dog in the manger, copyright is failing its intended purpose "to promote the progress of science and useful arts".
Here its going to go down if/when they approach the ISP i work for.
Dear customer.
We appreciate your patronage over the last 15 years as we grew from a single hotspot operation to the large WISP providing 100k+ customser with the only viable connection to the outside world. You have built your businesses and personal lives on our network and we have worked hard together to fill the last mile gap that was keeping your communities in the stone age.
Unfortunately due to interference with rights ransom companies such as Rightscorp, he have no choice but to announce we are shutting down effective immediately. We realize this will effectively cut entire communities off from the internet with no incumbent to take up the slack.
the only advise is that you call Christopher Sabec of Rightscorp at (his cell number) and inquire how he will handle the mess he created.
Regards
The internet cooperative.
But isn't that 512(a) - which has no takedown provision - not 512(c)?