Thousands of Leaked KGB Files Are Now Open To the Public
schwit1 (797399) writes "Over 20 years after being smuggled out of Russia, a trove of KGB documents are being opened up to the public for the first time. The leaked documents include thousands of files and represent what the FBI is said to view as "the most complete and extensive intelligence ever received from any source." The documents include KGB information on secret Russian weapons caches, Russian spies, and KGB information on the activities of Pope John Paul II. Known as the Mitrokhin Archive, the files are all available as of today at Churchill College's Archives Centre."
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whats the difference between this guy and snowden?
me fail english? thats unpossible
Of course, when politely asked by the SVR to 'return' these documents and delete any copies, everyone will comply, right?
Yeah, thanks...
http://thehill.com/policy/defense/211283-security-fears-loom-over-cia-report
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trove
noun \trv\
Definition of TROVE
1
: discovery, find
2
: a valuable collection : treasure; also : haul, collection
No adjective record in the dictionary.
The Russians will release the complete Snowden Archive.
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Strictly speaking, trove is an adjective.
Strictly speaking, you're wrong. Trove is a noun for "a collection of objects" and short for "treasure-trove". Ref: http://dictionary.reference.co...
Just for fun: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01...
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From their web page:
"Access and Use
"With the exception of sections 6-7, the collection is open for consultation by researchers using Churchill Archives Centre, Churchill College, Cambridge. Churchill Archives Centre is open from Monday to Friday, 9am-5pm. A prior appointment and two forms of identification are required."
You're in the USA and you want to look at them? Too bad.
Thought you could have a look at the material without them knowing who you are? Sorry, not allowed.
Someone needs to tell the Churchill College that in the age of the Internet, we expect material like this to be available over the Internet without needing to walk down your corridors.
Hmm, expect? No.
Demand.
In English, "trove" has been a standalone noun for more than two hundred years. It's short for "treasure trove".
Etymologically, the "trove" in "treasure trove" comes from an adjective, but "trove" by itself isn't an English adjective. That's language for you.
Strictly speaking, you're inventing a meaning that would make sense etymologically and asserting that it's the "real" meaning of the word. It's only dictionaries and speakers of English that disagree with you.
Strictly speaking, your attempt at being a grammar elitist failed. The word "trove" is a noun. Always has been.
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The Sword and the Shield was written in 2000 and covered a lot of the information about the Mitrokhin archive. It is 700 pages and is an interesting read. The actual archive is probably only of interest to the serious student that can read and understand Russian and really loves cold war history.
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Actually, the adjective in "treasure trove" is "treasure". Treasure describes the trove's contents.
These old KGB archives are very inconvenient. They have a lot of damaging information about people who are still in politics, who cooperated in the past. It's not a good thing for the world to remember that the KGB funded the anti-nuclear movement in Europe, or Greenpeace, or Amnesty International. Let's just let this quietly lay. Fortunately, it's all in Russian and translators are a pain in the ass.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
The Mitrokhin Archive...Avialiable for the first time? False!
They have been published in hardcopy for years. I find it amusing that I have a copy sitting on my bookshelf at home and that it's "newly avaiable" since it has gone out of print. Smells like a whopping load of mudnya to me.
Sorry, it's 2014. When documents are "Open to the Public", that means "available online". Scan first, then announce something.
If I can't download it, then what's the point of this even being posted? Am I really going to have to fly to Britain to read these? Also, It's in Russian. These aren't useful in their current form. "Hi guys! I'm going to leak the TRUTH! But you'll have to be able to know how to read Russian, be in Britain, set up an appointment, and have 2 forms of ID!" Hopefully, some nice person will bother to scan these, just like they did with JD Sallinger's "unreleased" stories.
If it weren't for the AD, this might have been funny as sarcasm.
See: "The Sword and the Shield," by Christopher Andrews. It's a summary of the Mitrhokin Archives, written at least 20 years ago.
At least that is the view of countries that are not the USA or the UK.
Virgin-trove : A trove of virgins. Example, slashdot.
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Love how your cite proves how retarded you are. The noun there is treasure.
You can't just chop a stock phrase in half and assume that either bit has the same meaning as the original. Do you sit on a longue eating a brulée?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Oddly, it's not. That's where OP is coming from. "Treasure trove" comes ultimately from Latin via French (or at least, some language fragments the Normans brought over). The "trove" means "found", so it's "found treasure". That's why in the original (pre-English) phrase, the word order is backwards: "trove" is the adjective, "treasure" is the noun, and it follows the appropriate French/Latin word order. It was pulled directly into English without reordering (common for borrowed phrases). Eventually, "trove" (which had no English meaning at all) became a synonym (a shortening) for "treasure trove".
So by etymology, "trove" was originally an adjective. However, it means nothing in English. The phrase "treasure trove" is a noun phrase all by itself that can't really be broken into parts.
Wow, trove has been treated as an English noun for over two hundred years and some nerd on Slashdot still can't deal with that change. I wonder how many words Hognoxious uses everyday that are newer than 1791? Fun article. Thanks for the link.
There's evidence about a number of consipiracy theories in these documents:
* That Lee Harvey Oswald didn't kill JFK
* The story that the AIDS virus was manufactured by US scientists at the US Army research station at Fort Detrick
* Martin Luther King, Jr.'s assassination had been planned by the US government
Of course, the real conspiracy was the disinformation campaign by the KGB to spread these false rumors. Which makes me wonder: what theories does a certain former KGB agent turned dic^H^H^Hpresident want spread now?
-- Political fascism requires a Fuhrer.
Treasure in "treasure trove" is the adjective. Trove is the noun. "Treasure trove" as opposed to "information trove" or similar. I have never known an English adjective to come after a noun.
The Mitrokhin Archive was published in book form over 14 years ago. See https://www.goodreads.com/book...
It's a dense read but fascinating. Having all that in a searchable archive is worthwhile but it's not the first time this information has been revealed to the general public.
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