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Dubai's Climate-Controlled Dome City Is a Dystopia Waiting To Happen

Daniel_Stuckey writes: Dubai is building "the world's first climate-controlled city" — it's a 4.3 mile pedestrian mall that will be covered with a retractable dome to provide its shoppers with air conditioning in the summer heat. The Mall of the World, as it's called, will become the sort of spectacular, over-the-top attraction Dubai is known for. Shortly after, it will probably become an equally spectacular real-world dystopia.

By sectioning off a 3-million-square-foot portion of the city with an air conditioned dome, Dubai is dropping one of the most tangible partitions between the haves and the have nots of the modern era—the 100 hotels and apartment complexes inside the attraction will be cool, comfortable, and nestled into a entertainment-filled, if macabre, consumer paradise."

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  1. Humph by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone sounds jealous...

  2. Overreaction by qbast · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is just a big mall with AC, not beginning of Mad Max. Calm down.

    1. Re:Overreaction by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You say that but that's exactly it's intention. To seperate the rich from the slaves.

      And this is a new thing? Cities everywhere tend to do this.

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  3. Life on Mars? by Prien715 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Being the largest climate controlled dome of its kind, perhaps the engineering "lessons learned" could be applicable to creating a self-sustaining space colony -- one of the chief challenges being climate control. ..or else, I've just been playing too much Kerbal Space Program and reading too much Heinlein;)

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    1. Re:Life on Mars? by khallow · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Earth is already a permanent space colony.

    2. Re:Life on Mars? by Jeremi · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No one will EVER live in a permanent space colony. Sorry.

      While I share your pessimistic outlook for the foreseeable future, forever is a really long time. Are you willing to say that absolutely nobody will be living in a permanent space colony in 100 years? 500 years? 10,000 years? If so, what makes you so certain?

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    3. Re:Life on Mars? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Earth is already a permanent space colony.

      Yeah.

      And just LOOK at how THAT turned out!

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  4. Hmm... by Shoten · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm missing the part where something in Dubai is waiting to be a dystopia...

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  5. Slaves of Dubai by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone sounds jealous...

    Someone is well-informed.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMh-vlQwrmU

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    1. Re:Slaves of Dubai by houstonbofh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Someone sounds jealous...

      Someone is well-informed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMh-vlQwrmU

      Which has nothing to do with a dome, and everything to do with Dubai... The reaction to the dome is unfounded panic. Dubai will separate the people because Dubai separates the people. Dome, or no dome.

    2. Re:Slaves of Dubai by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      sounds like a republican capitalist paradise. we should import a couple of the Dubai leaders to put the US poor to work. finally.

      Right ... because it's Republicans who want to concentrate people in cities. Got it.

    3. Re:Slaves of Dubai by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Slaves? WTF? Are you so blind to the conditions in much of the world that you think offering a job to someone is bad? Are you insane? These are the best jobs most of the poor in Dubai are likely to have offered in their lives.

      It's not right for the first world, so better the jobs don't exist at all? Seriously, I can't imagine how you think this is bad. These jobs are vastly better than early industrial revolution American jobs, let alone no job at all in a place with no real social safety net.

      Sheltered suburban enclave American middle class are something else. No sense of perspective at all.

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    4. Re:Slaves of Dubai by geirlk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Slaves yes.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H...

      http://www.vice.com/vice-news/...

      The fact that it's a tough world out there doesn't excuse Dubai or UAE in general from acting like asshat clowns. They have the economy to take care of their foreign workers, but choose to screw them over. That's really not OK.

  6. Re:Bling Bling Motherfucker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    and when the oil runs out they will have a nice place to park their camels.

  7. Re:Not about jealousy, but ... by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, one giant building requires a lot less energy to cool than an equal volume of multiple tiny buildings, because the big building has much less surface area / volume and thus transfers heat more slowly.

  8. World's largest mall: Occupying 8 million sq ft by Alain+Williams · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A big shopping center - sounds like hell on earth! I just can't understand the obsession with shopping, once you have your clothes & stuff just leave and do something interesting.

  9. Re:Bling Bling Motherfucker by amicusNYCL · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or, they can install the solar everyone else is spending a fortune developing in the plentiful sunlight they have.

    I think that they'll find that selling solar power is far less profitable than selling oil.

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  10. Re:Not about jealousy, but ... by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you look at the pictures, it's mostly enclosed walkways connecting all the buildings.
    It's easier to cool a building if you're not pissing your cold air out the doors.

  11. Re:Not about jealousy, but ... by Stoutlimb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Volume and mass do not matter as much as surface area. This is an ecological win. The enclosed area will also mean less evaporation, so more green spaces and more efficient use of fresh water supplies. This is a win, at least in theory.

  12. Dubai has bigger problems by ADRA · · Score: 3

    Dubai a city with a significantly challenging future and it has little to do with a dome. It's the center of little, its propelled by wildy deep pockets vs. social need, and wealth centers in the middle east are already distributing their investments to other regions. Forget the fact that once the oil's gone the wealth remaining in the region will leach away as there's so few people (though it'll take a very long time). UAE: 9mil, Yeman: 23mil, Oman: 4mil, Saudi Arabia: 30 mil. They have huge gulfs of weath distribution, and generally horrible climates. Why would people go to Dubai if it wasn't a spectacle or a huge weath gaining opportunity? My advice: Bilk Dubai for all its worth now, because in 50 years it'll be a distant memory of largesse gone awry by modern standards.

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    1. Re:Dubai has bigger problems by TubeSteak · · Score: 3, Informative

      Forget the fact that once the oil's gone the wealth remaining in the region will leach away as there's so few people (though it'll take a very long time).

      Dubai and the other Emirates are acutely aware of the limits to their oil reserves.
      They've been very busy turning their States into financial and trade hubs for the Arabian Peninsula,
      with plenty of free trade zones (no taxes on corporate income) in order to draw in international corporations.

      My advice: Bilk Dubai for all its worth now, because in 50 years it'll be a distant memory of largesse gone awry by modern standards.

      Your advice is wrong.
      Abu Dhabi is the 800 lb gorilla in the UAE and has the 2nd largest sovereign wealth fund in the world.
      As long as Dubai's royal family goes along with Abu Dhabi's Sheikh, Dubai can keep borrowing money until the end of time.
      /The last time Dubai needed cash, they had to reform some laws as a condition set by Abu Dhabi.

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  13. Re:Not about jealousy, but ... by mythosaz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Vokda?

  14. I know someone who works on this kind of stuff by Dripdry · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know someone who works on this kind of stuff.
    He works on theme parks, recently getting hired (within his company) to fix mistakes and problems with them, in Dubai and the surrounding area. His take is repeatedly that they don't know how to do quality-control there. Their projects SOUND amazing, but they skimp on the essentials and end up with disastrous results much of the time. He believes this is a mess waiting to happen, given the area's track record, but isn't involved in the project.

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  15. Re:Not about jealousy, but ... by TheGavster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The extra ironic part is that by selling you the gasoline to burn, they contribute to the slow heating and eventual flooding of a city that is basically on an island at sea level ...

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  16. Re:Fetishising nature + this is after all a desert by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 3, Informative

    What you say would have more merit if there was free choice for these Bangladeshi people to come and go. Why have their passports been confiscated? Why is there not a viable means (steerage in low cost cargo ships) for them to return home if they wish? The arrangement as it stands amounts to what is called 'Indentured Servitute' which is a fancy name for slavery.

    Extra points, though, for trying to turn the issue into something 'dirty and sexual' by using the term fetishise. Tell your masters to give you an extra bonus for your effort, because you've written some excellent propaganda.

  17. Re:Not about jealousy, but ... by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you read the news from Europe these days, they seem to be doing exactly that.