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New Microsoft CEO Vows To Shake Up Corporate Culture

jfruh (300774) writes New Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said that he and his leadership team are taking "important steps to visibly change our culture" and that "nothing is off the table" on that score. While much of his declaration consists of vague and positive-sounding phrases ("increase the fluidity of information and ideas by taking actions to flatten the organization and develop leaner business processes"), he outlined his main goals for the shift: reduce time it takes to get things done by having fewer people involved in each decision; quantify outcomes for products and use that data to predict future trends; and increasing investment for employee training and development.

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  1. Manager by tsa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ha, a real manager!

    But seriously, hopefully Microsoft will benefit from him and become a bit more popular amongst nerds.

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    1. Re:Manager by gbjbaanb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      yeah, because everything a nerd wants is summed up in the phrase "business process", flat or not.

    2. Re:Manager by mfh · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Weasels that know corporate double speak are ruining everything though. You know we don't mourn the T-rex. We talk about the dinosaurs as being really big and dumb.

      They were all psychopaths!! Lizard brains.

      When the cockroaches are mulling over what our existences might have been like, they will all say that the weasels died out because of our stupidity and overconfidence. They'll say we were monsters, too. Big and dumb. Lizard brains.

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    3. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      EVERY new bigwig wants to play "there's a new sneriff in town!" and shake things up. They'll change things for no good reason for the sake of change, even if that same change was already tried three or four bigwigs ago. Imagine a cat or a dog pissing on their territory to make sure other cats/dogs know who it belongs to. That's all there is to see here. After that it'll be meet the new boss, same as the old boss because he'll have to deal with all the same pressures.

    4. Re:Manager by Teckla · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But seriously, hopefully Microsoft will benefit from him and become a bit more popular amongst nerds.

      Why do you hope for that? Microsoft pretends to reinvent itself regularly, but one thing remains constant through the decades: Their goal has unswervingly been lock-in from top to bottom, while trying to nickel and dime you the whole way.

      For nerds, this means locking you into their programming languages (e.g., VB or C#), or if not that, at least lock you into their APIs (so that you're as good as locked in, even if you're using C or C++). It means abandonment of entire domains that no longer suit them (look up how woefully out-of-date and ignored the C part of their C/C++ compiler is).

      It means locking you into their platforms, whether that be the operating system (Windows) or the browser (Internet Explorer).

      It means high prices (have you seen the prices on Windows Server and/or Microsoft Azure lately?), which is not-at-all nerd-friendly. It means guaranteed stagnation in those domains where they achieve dominance. It means product churn for the sake of profits. It means ignoring customers and forcing bad implementations on them (*cough*Metro*cough*) and then taking forever to admit it was a mistake and fix it (when is Windows 9 due out? Next year sometime?).

      Just because some new-boss-same-as-the-old-boss is singing some unicorns-and-rainbows song doesn't mean the core of Microsoft is going to change. They're still after the same things they've always been after: Lock-in so severe that the pain of escape ensures most people remain slaves, and profits, profits, profits.

    5. Re:Manager by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      But seriously, hopefully:
      Code great support for game developers on the PC over the Windows 8 to 9 upgrades.
      Console can coast along as always.
      Lock in new consumer revenue streams over generations of emerging product lines.
      Have more people involved in decisions before another confidential ex parte motion.
      Ensure ongoing quality encryption for consumers globally.

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    6. Re:Manager by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      USB sockets also lock you in to using USB leads.

      I don't see standards as a bad thing, if they're done well.

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    7. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      USB sockets also lock you in to using USB leads.

      Absolutely zero comparison to software.

    8. Re:Manager by rtb61 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The problem is at their core they fail to recognise there are two organisations, hard business under M$ and creative works under MSN. They have allowed M$ to be a continual drag upon MSN and really failed to capitalise on it's value. Doing silly stuff like lessening the brand with outlook, live and bing over advertising and lessening page view worth and crippling creativity by leaving it stuck under M$ management.

      They should split the company and allow MSN to achieve it's worth whilst they milk windows and office for all they can. The cloud has been severely impacted by the shenanigans of the NSA. It looks like he global cloud is at an end, already under threat in Russia and China and likely to fragment further. Appliances are back on the table and likely to dominate as trust has been pretty much permanently destroyed. Even something as simple as a mobile phone is seeing storage capacity increase as people want to store locally and backup at home, trust is being abused at every level of business both by corporations and government agencies.

      They need to focus on plug and play appliances, creating a home stack or a business stack. At home that means a big screen display, modem router with storage capacity, phone, pc, notebooks, family notice board (web, mail and internet server all built in). Business tends to be much just greater capacity, greater demands on reliability and more units in the stack. Software taking a back seat to supplying the appliance complete, ready to go and just plugging into the stack. Hard copy is also part of that stack whether 2D or 3D.

      They should also not shy away from Android or Linux it just leaves them looking incomplete and less than professional. Lock in opportunities are shrinking especially as major markets will actively block it, not anything to do with M$ but all to do with the US. Many countries let is slide for surprisingly long but now they are actively legislating against it, so now adding in other OS's keeps them in those markets.

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    9. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its not like any other OS's are trying to lock you in. And before you cry "but linux" or "but open source" they are just as interested as locking you into their software as microsoft, they are just tying to lure you in with "free."

    10. Re: Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It should be pretty easy for anyone to tell that this is a sinking ship. Notice what he didn't address:

      - Windows Phone. For all intents and purposes a complete failure. I can safely say that I've never seen ANYONE with a Windows Phone. Ever.
      - Windows 8. No one likes or wants Metro. The first thing most experienced Windows users do after installing 8 is start looking for a way to get the start menu back. They tried to push a uniform interface across traditional PC's and tablets...and it sucked. Badly. Which brings me to...
      - Surface. So many failures simultaneously it's hard to believe. Hundreds of millions of hardware sitting in warehouses, probably for the duration, because again...nobody wants the things (and before some anal retentive starts pointing out sales figures, by "nobody" I mean "not enough people to be financially viable"). Overpriced laptop/tablet hybrids that nobody asked for in the first place.
      - The Xbox One. Not much to say here really. When your best title for 2014 is a Halo compilation and your best hope for 2015 is Halo 5... Then there's Kinect. Fuck the more of these I line up the less sense it makes. Goofy motion control gimmicks were a short-lived fad, even Microsoft is backpedaling on it now.

      Nadella not only refuses to address any of these colossal failures (or even acknowledge them), he seems to think that the solution is either a change in corporate culture or...more cloud services! Sure, why not buy into another train wreck of an industry, a train wreck courtesy of the NASA no less? Nobody who uses a computer regularly, as well as watching or reading any news online regularly, has any remaining trust for "cloud computing." At best it's a half-measure against DDoS attacks...if that's the direction Microsoft is going in, the hosting business, they'll be going up against cloud services and backup hosting like Google and, say, Akamai respectively. Both of whom already have the infrastructure and are already beating Microsoft at their own game.

      Nadella needs to pull his head out of those self absorbed "cloud" delusions and come back to reality.

    11. Re:Manager by nabsltd · · Score: 4, Informative

      USB sockets also lock you in to using USB leads.

      You're missing that point that anybody can make both USB sockets and USB leads with a very minimal royalty payment.

      What if only one company made USB sockets (Microsoft) and they charged $100 for it (Windows). Then, once you did pay and had your USB device working, they stopped supporting the current USB standard, which encouraged your device manufacturer to stop supporting it. Then, all new USB devices would only work on the new USB sockets, so if you buy a new camera/scanner/mouse/keyboard/whatever, you can't plug it in to your current USB socket, and need to pay another $100 to get the new socket. If Microsoft didn't see Windows as a profit center, but instead used it as a platform to get you to pay for everything else they do, 90% of the complaints about them would stop.

      I didn't mind paying for the first versions of Windows, because they gave me something I didn't have: a windowed UI. Then, Windows NT gave us real multi-tasking and 32-bit code. Windows 2000 and XP were just more polished versions, although XP gave us 64-bit that wasn't supported much. Windows 7 finally gave us 64-bit with real support. Windows 8 is just a different UI. So, the reality is that over that span of nearly 20 years, I feel like I should have paid "full price" for about 3 versions (truly major upgrades), and some token amount (about 20% of the full version price seems right) for the "maintenance" releases.

      Instead, if you wanted to play the latest games, you had to upgrade to XP (2000 was just fine for running productivity apps) and 7, and even before the end of support of XP, you had to upgrade to 7 if you didn't use an alternate browser (unless you like getting burned by the most common security exploits). Then, add in that the more recent OS often don't have drivers for older hardware and have a lot more system requirements, and you end up with Linux getting traction because of this endless cycle.

      Although Linux is really hurting the inroads that MS made into the server market, it will never touch the desktop until it's just as easy to use. It will never be just as easy to use as long as there are 14 different Linux distributions with 43 different GUI implementations (numbers pulled out of my ass, but you get the picture). Until there is one GUI, no large percentage of companies will heavily invest in converting to a Linux desktop because they won't want to train every new hire in how the system works. And yes, I know that the vast majority of people don't do anything complicated, but things like connecting to a network share, changing the screen resolution, changing the GUI colors, playing a video, scheduling a meeting with co-workers, etc., are all things that real people do and which have to be easy and consistent. In addition, until all the standard software is available (no, Linux doesn't have to have Microsoft Office, but it has to have a package that does everything that Office does, and Open/Libre Office ain't it), there won't be a large shift, either.

      I maintain Linux servers for a living, but I still use a Windows desktop (even though my employer does support Windows, Linux, and OSX for personal desktops) because it still is easier to get everything done using that. I have lots of options to get to a Linux system and run programs (both text and GUI), and not everyone in my office uses the same toolset as I do. But, the other direction is painful. Without Windows, you can't easily find out when everybody is available for a meeting, and can't stay logged in to your e-mail (OWA times out, while Outlook does not). I can connect to a Windows share from a Linux system, but I can't adjust the ACLs. With a Windows desktop, I can connect to both Windows and NFS shares and adjust the ACLs.

    12. Re:Manager by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      Yes there is. It takes a lot of effort to design say, a generalized GUI API that will work on all OSs, and after all that effort, it won't be as optimized as if it was specially written to take advantage of anything in the Windows OS. Not that I like Windows OS particularly (I hope Ubuntu takes off), but I dislike the mess that is non-standardization even more. Bloat is bad also.

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    13. Re:Manager by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      I meant I hope Haiku OS takes off (not that Ubuntu is bad).

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    14. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess reducing the CEO's salary isn't off the table then. How about making it the average salary of Microsoft employees?

      How about having MS Office use a standard format that anyone can easily read/write to, and providing read/write translators for any changes they make and for reading/writing to other office formats?

      How about behaving well...perhaps adopting a policy of, "Do very little evil."

    15. Re:Manager by jbolden · · Score: 2

      It means high prices (have you seen the prices on Windows Server and/or Microsoft Azure lately?

      Yes pretty reasonable compared to Oracle, IBM and similar offerings. Higher than open source alternatives.

      It means ignoring customers and forcing bad implementations on them (*cough*Metro*cough*) and then taking forever to admit it was a mistake and fix it (when is Windows 9 due out? Next year sometime?).

      IMHO the mistake was not forcing it more by making touch and/or digitizer tablet mandatory for Windows 8. The problem with Windows 8 is that people insist on running on Windows 7 hardware.

    16. Re:Manager by iMadeGhostzilla · · Score: 1

      I'll answer that from my perspective: it just so happened that most of the fun I had and money I made programming was on Windows. That's why I'd like MS to be successful. I had lots of good time programming on Linux, too, so for the same reason I want Linux to continue. Never had a chance to code for OSX or iOS, so I don't care about those either way. And outside of programming, most of the fun hands down I had on Windows.

      Not that anyone's asking me, of course, just trying to trace down my positive feelings towards Microsoft.

    17. Re:Manager by Twinbee · · Score: 2
      All fair points but...

      so if you buy a new camera/scanner/mouse/keyboard/whatever, you can't plug it in to your current USB socket, and need to pay another $100 to get the new socket

      Microsoft have done a lot to support backwards compatibility. Most software which works on WinXP will work on Win 8 and vice versa.

      I don't think the price MS charges for Windows is amazingly extortionate, but I get your point.

      As you semi-pointed out, if MS opened up Windows I fear we'd get the same fragmentation Linux/Unix has. That's the last thing we need. Standards are good, fragmentation is not. (As long as the product is mature/good quality, and competition isn't needed as much).

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    18. Re:Manager by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Dunno man, everything you just said kind of applies to Apple too...

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    19. Re:Manager by wiredlogic · · Score: 4, Funny

      He had me at "crease the fluidity". OMG... *swoon*.

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    20. Re:Manager by swillden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Their goal has unswervingly been lock-in from top to bottom, while trying to nickel and dime you the whole way.

      This is exactly the corporate culture shake-up that's required.

      Microsoft has a lot of really smart people, and the financial and other assets needed to put them to work doing great things that can compete and win on their own, actually serving customers rather than trying to lock them in and then exploit them.

      MS could be great. But they need a radically different internal dynamic to get there. Will this guy be able to do that? I'm skeptical, but I really hope he can.

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    21. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. Microsoft's only goal is to lock you into Windows so they can keep school kids and everyone else (including the government) under their control. There's no justifying this, and it's not in any way similar or on the scale of the USB standard.

    22. Re:Manager by MightyMartian · · Score: 0

      OOXML is a great example of a standad, and of how to move a standard through an international standards committee.

      (This is irony, for those who may be impaired in its recognition)

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    23. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever even developed on the MS platform? They have entire programs dedicated to *giving* developers access to all of their software for development purposes. How is that not developer friendly? I've never paid a dime to develop on the MS platform, and I've always been able to do it entirely above-board.

      Now when you start selling your software, or you start deploying to established production environments, of course they want their money from that. You make money using their platform (which up until now you've done entirely at no cost) and they want a small fraction of that for themselves - how is that something to complain about? That's basic business which is practiced by every sustainable company in existence.

    24. Re:Manager by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      And you can by interchangable USB devices that work on multiple operating systems made by over twenty different companies.

      When we can buy windows from twenty different companies and it just works, then the two will be equivalent.

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    25. Re:Manager by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I meant I hope Haiku OS takes off (not that Ubuntu is bad).

      :D

    26. Re:Manager by raddan · · Score: 5, Interesting

      (disclaimer: I have interned at Microsoft for the past three summers; I do not speak for them)

      I think your criticism against lock-in is fair, and this is clearly one of Microsoft's strategies, and I suspect that it will continue to be to some degree. But on the language front, you are wrong. Not only are Microsoft's newest languages open-source (F#, TypeScript), but they are also cross-platform and collaboratively developed with open source groups. And, of course, you can run all .NET languages on the Mac, Linux, FreeBSD, etc. with mono.

      While it is theoretically possible that all of this is a deadly Microsoft-bait-and-switch just waiting to happen, having worked at Microsoft, I can say that doing so would fly in the face of a lot of hard work by many, many people there. I was as critical about Microsoft as you were (dig into my /. history and you'll see) until I worked there. Not only is it a great place to work, but the company really is committed to changing its culture. Use of open-source tools at Microsoft used to be strictly-prohibited. Now they have a fast-track process for working with them. Open-sourcing of Microsoft software was also a complete non-starter. Now putting Microsoft code up on the web is increasingly routine, and they even have their own open-source hosting ala GitHub that has git bindings.

      Microsoft is a big company (the Redmond campus is mind-bogglingly huge to me) and they have a lot of corporate momentum. Despite this, in my opinion, I've seen my daily interactions with people do a complete 180 in the last couple of years. Microsoft knows that the era of selling boxed copies of proprietary software is coming to an end. So you're simply wrong about Microsoft not being able to change.

    27. Re:Manager by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      Windows is a lot more complicated than a hardware interface specification, so MS deserves a little more to hold the rights to the Windows and its technology. But I get your point.

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    28. Re:Manager by Twinbee · · Score: 1

      Haha, that was probably a little unexpected for you. But I love the snappiness and cleanness of Haiku (just got to persuade them to implement a database/metadata filesystem now! :)

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    29. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if only one company made USB sockets...

      Then you would call them Apple(thunderbolt) or before that IBM (MCA).
      The question I ask is when are we going to stop screwing around wih 1950's tech and build a more capable computing design? Binary doesn't cut it in the age of QM.

    30. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually I'm beginning to think that MS engineering "talent" is the worst amongst all the large companies. They are regularly out-innovated by Apple, Google, Amazon. The very fact that Continuity comes first from Apple should be a real eye-opener to everyone. Apple is not thought of as a hard-core software engineering company, but they are running rings about everyone.

    31. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm... Well.. I would not say it is THAT bad..

      Imagine - a Windows version tailor-made for specific groups and/or uses (that is mainly that "fragmentation" you are talking about).
      An windows that could be modulair build, with an custom-choice interface (like KDE, GNOME etc. in Linux), and with tools and bits (cutted out or added) that are needed (or wanted) by certain users (like minimal Linux versions as Puppy or System Rescue, or tailor made for music production/CAD/Rendering etc.).

      That's the main "fragmentation" you are talking about in Linux-land. In reality there are a few main distro's and a lot of tailor-made versions. In my opinion that is not bad at all. It is the consumer that gets the choice...

    32. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      An LOT (if not all) of open-source projects can be compiled for any operating system!!!
      Want to run it on Windows? Fine! Run on UNIX? Fine! Run on Android, OSX... anything? Great!

      Now - tell me... Where is that lock-in you are talking about?

    33. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no problem at all when they sell an production platform. That is not the point...

      The point is that everything made with that production platform cannot be run on any other OS.
      They did not do an lock-in on an production platform, but on an entire OS.. THAT's the problem!

    34. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      >

      What if only one company made USB sockets (Microsoft) and they charged $100 for it (Windows). Then, once you did pay and had your USB device working, they stopped supporting the current USB standard, which encouraged your device manufacturer to stop supporting it. Then, all new USB devices would only work on the new USB sockets, so if you buy a new camera/scanner/mouse/keyboard/whatever, you can't plug it in to your current USB socket, and need to pay another $100 to get the new socket.

      You mean like Apple and their fucking connector mess?

    35. Re:Manager by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      The issue, in the long term, is does it really matter? Microsoft still had a big chunk of the enterprise workstation and groupware market, but in many other ways they're becoming irrelevant. Despite throwing boatloads of money at the search and tablet markets, they're not moving those products. To make up for that they're hiking the prices of the very enterprise offerings they need to survive. Volume licensing, Server, Exchange, SQL Server and the like have Alli been jacket up to fund their failures. The last batch of Server licenses I bought may very well be the last.

      Let's be blunt. Microsoft is all but irrelevant in the mobile and tablet markets. About the only thing they have going for them is the scam patent tax they have on Android devices.

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    36. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it's complicated to enable lock in, not because it helps users.

    37. Re:Manager by NortWind · · Score: 2

      Microsoft does a good job of supporting backward compatibility because it has to do so to maintain lock-in. If things weren't very compatible from version to version, you might be tempted to try something else. That is how Microsoft rakes in their money for a product that is in many ways worse than a free product: lock-in.

    38. Re:Manager by raddan · · Score: 1

      You're forgetting that mobile devices need a complement to be useful: mobile services. Many of the services that we know and love-- and the many more coming down the pipeline-- all need massive amounts of computation. And the trend right now is toward more and more computation. For example, Skype (not exactly a failure) requires massive cloud resources, and the forthcoming Skype Translator will require a neural net behind the scenes.

      I don't think your feelings about Windows Server contradict my point: Microsoft is moving into a software-as-a-service model. It shouldn't be surprising that you want to ditch the old model. In many ways, it doesn't matter if you don't use Microsoft handheld devices; if you do things on the Internet, you almost certainly use their cloud services. And if anything can be learned from Apple's example, it's that rapid innovation can happen when you have the capability to vertically integrate. There are really only three players out there right now that can do that: Apple, Google, and Microsoft. I think it would be silly to call any one of those companies irrelevant.

    39. Re:Manager by pablo_max · · Score: 1

      So true. I wish MS could more like Apple. oh wait...

    40. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if only one company made USB sockets (Microsoft) and they charged $100 for it (Windows). Then, once you did pay and had your USB device working, they stopped supporting the current USB standard, which encouraged your device manufacturer to stop supporting it. Then, all new USB devices would only work on the new USB sockets, so if you buy a new camera/scanner/mouse/keyboard/whatever, you can't plug it in to your current USB socket, and need to pay another $100 to get the new socket. If Microsoft didn't see Windows as a profit center, but instead used it as a platform to get you to pay for everything else they do, 90% of the complaints about them would stop.

      This is actually exactly how printer drivers work on windows.

    41. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha, a real manager!

      But seriously, hopefully Microsoft will benefit from him and become a bit more popular amongst nerds.

      Yeah BlackBerry senior management mouthed similar words only weeks prior to the first wave of lay-offs began affecting the most recently hired and spreading to encompass employees regardless of tenure. The company still has not recovered and has reduced its workforce by almost 75%.

    42. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >It means locking you into their platforms, whether that be the operating system (Windows) or the browser (Internet Explorer).

      Google just called, they wanted to thank you for being locked into Android and Chrome.

      OOOOOH right, it's just a problem when Microsoft did it. Now that Google is whitewashing every market with "free" lock-in, it's not a bad thing. The only difference I see is that MS charged more for their OS. But the browsers are very similar.

      Who defined HTTP 2.0? Google. Who wants to redefine jscript into Dart? Google.

      Time to wake up and realize who your master is.

    43. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a reason why we use ANSI Standard languages. There's a reason why Google proposes GO as a standard. Look at what happens even if it's "open source".

      Java.

    44. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I develop and sell software I have a much (much much) bigger market on the MS platform than I do anything else - and it's not even close. Sure I'm "locked in" to the MS platform, but that's like saying one is "locked in" to the New York market when they could be partying it up in Fargo instead.

      For most non-enterprise developers the MS platform comprises a market that is so much bigger than every other platform *combined* that it's not an economic problem to be "locked in" to them (as opposed to being "locked in" to some other platform, according to your logic). But therein lies our difference - people like you want to make this about dogma, while the rest of us are just trying to participate in a functioning economy.

    45. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a Scheiß-Argument. There are tons of different Unix-like OSes (e.g. BSDs) and tools from other enivronments such as REXX or the languages of Mr Wirth. Which were designed to run on their own OS. I never heard Mr Stallman rail against FOSS alternatives to the POSIX API.

      Sure as hell POSIX and C have TONS of security problems, which they share with the NT kernel and all the crap MS builds on top of this.

    46. Re:Manager by swillden · · Score: 2

      That's got nothing to do with talent, and everything to do with how the talent is employed.

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    47. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've just demonstrated your complete lack of understanding of other OS's. Most of the sysadmin work I do is equally easy and accessible from most Linux based OS's, BSD variants and Mac OS X.

      Windows on the other hand makes it a frustrating chore as the default shell is terrible and it doesn't come with anything installed that is useful for managing anything that's not another Windows machine.

    48. Re:Manager by tehlinux · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was hoping to be popular amongst nerds when I bought my Surface and my Windows Phone...

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    49. Re: Manager by cyber-vandal · · Score: 2

      Apple aren't the only company who make Thunderbolt and it's a patented Intel technology anyway.

    50. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Amazon.

    51. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple have been making the best desktop OS since 2001. You might not regard then as a software engineering company, but you're wrong.

    52. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google's Go is complete trash though. F#, Swift, Rust and a bunch of the newer JVM languages are in a completely different league.

    53. Re:Manager by sillybilly · · Score: 1

      The super intelligent cockroaches are gonna wrap us into a cocoon and lay their eggs into us, kinda like some wasps do it today to cockroaches, then it's gonna be the cockroaches doing it to humans. They are gonna keep humans, or whatever it may become of humans in 3 billion years, as domesticated farm animals. Their only envy is gonna be the lung/blood air transport system of humans and mammals, as the tracheal network of a bug puts a heavy limit on size, and brain size, but as long as their 6 inch brain will be more interconnected than a 60 inch human brain, they'll have no problem outsmarting us, or hunting us down in wolf packs. There is nothing more formidable as a predator against humans than a full wolf pack set on making dinner out of one, not a shark, not a tiger or jaguar, not a polar bear (the smartest of bears). Usually wolf attacks are by single, stray wolves, but if the whole gang unites, good luck. So 3 billion years from now when a gang of 2 ft height, 6 inch brained tracheal cockroaches unite to trap you as prey, good luck to you, my friend.

    54. Re:Manager by sillybilly · · Score: 1

      Hey, it's me again..So, one way to prevent such a thing from happening is to exterminate every insect in existence, and every flowering plant. Just fill the whole world up with some insecticide more potent than DDT but not harmful to bird eggshells, and also herbicides that target flowering plants and fruit trees, and we'll go back to having only green grass lawns, pine trees with cones without fruits that need a bug to pollinate, and ferns. Unless you create non-artificial-intelligence flying mini-robots, to replace bugs, they would seek out flowers, and shake shake shake, pick up pollen and pollinate at the same time. Then you could keep flowering trees like apples, pears, peaches, nut trees, etc, while still exterminating all bugs in existence, to make sure they don't surpass us in evolution 3 billion years from now. In fact, why stop there, do it to all other life form species except the ones you eat as food, and you should also exterminate every other human too that's not your family, to make sure they don't surpass and dominate your off springs after millennia from now. How about that wonderful idea? We already did the first steps, by mowing lawns, and spraying insecticides and herbicides everywhere.

    55. Re:Manager by BadDreamer · · Score: 2

      Monoculture is bad. What you call fragmentation I call a healthy diversity allowing security. Unfortunately Linux is heading away from this with things like systemd, which will create a new monoculture for no appreciable gain, but at least so far the diversity is working in the Internets favor.

      And who says competition is not needed in OS'es, anyway? Why should we all settle for a monoculture and just placidly say "standards are good" without examining whether they actually ARE good?

    56. Re:Manager by williamhb · · Score: 1

      Microsoft pretends to reinvent itself regularly, but one thing remains constant through the decades: Their goal has unswervingly been lock-in from top to bottom

      Essentially every for-profit company has the "unswerving" goal of lock-in. Google wrote Gmail to make search "stickier" (your data tunes their search responses to you, not their competitors), the Play Store is to make Android stickier (both to you and the handset makers) because you'd have to re-buy your apps and videos if you switched, and the handset makers would lose easy access to the Play store if they didn't also preinstall Gmail, Google Now, and the Google branded apps on their phones. Your printer only works with cartridges from its manufacturer. iTunes and Apple's unique connector make using their devices stickier (as you'd need to re-purchase everything from your iPod alarm clock to your song library to easily move to a competitor). GitHub uses their own pull request mechanism, rather than the mechanism Linus Torvalds built into git, making it easier to work with other GitHub repos rather than git repos on any competing site (lock in the forks, and make the GitHub network stickier).

      It is a simple fact of life that every company you do business with tries to come up with a way to defend their customer-base against competitors (or gets crushed by someone with deeper pockets outspending them until they've taken over the market as soon as they start to be successful).

    57. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What does the phrase mean?

      Krel K., Twibright Labs

    58. Re:Manager by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      Microsoft does a good job of supporting backward compatibility because it has to do so to maintain lock-in. If things weren't very compatible from version to version, you might be tempted to try something else.

      MS is generally OK in the "programs run" bit, but they really need to force hardware manufacturers to keep supporting the older OS with drivers. When Windows 7 came out, a lot of smaller companies stopped providing XP drivers for their hardware.

    59. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was as critical about Microsoft as you were (dig into my /. history and you'll see) until I worked there. Not only is it a great place to work, but the company really is committed to changing its culture.

      If a new CEO comes in and says 'lock it down' then that's that. Culture is allowed in corporations, it doesn't define or control them, and if it conflicts with making money then it loses. Consider Google culture vs G+ lock-in.

    60. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve Jobs showed them how to do it

    61. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft doesn't lock anyone into Windows. They make an OS that software companies make applications and games for. If you want to blame someone for "locking you in", then blame the people who keep developing Windows software, not Microsoft.

    62. Re:Manager by nesdave · · Score: 1

      Gerund the Destroyer? Weren't you doing a FPS last year? All new leaders flap their wings. Let's see him fly before we shoot him down. Besides, what if he pulls it off?

    63. Re:Manager by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Look at who came to the top alongside Satya. It's people like Scott Guthrie, who have been pushing for more openness and more attention to other platforms rather than just Windows for years now.

      "Open source" is actually quite a buzzword inside MS recently. I didn't think I'd ever see a lawyer giving a talk to programmers on F/OSS emphasize that "GPL is not actually bad, you just need to be careful and aware of the implication". As well as describe the historical hostile policy on open source as "stupid and harming competitiveness".

      Oh, and the other day, I've seen a guy with a blue badge strolling around the campus in a GPLv3 t-shirt.

      Things are changing. Fast.

    64. Re:Manager by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      The point is that everything made with that production platform cannot be run on any other OS.

      Five or even three years ago, you'd be correct.

      But not anymore.

    65. Re:Manager by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      There's a reason why we use ANSI Standard languages.

      How about ISO standard languages? Like C#...

    66. Re:Manager by swillden · · Score: 1

      That's great to hear. I didn't realize you were a Microsoftie (though it's on your /. bio). I work for Google, but I'm all for strong, healthy competition.

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    67. Re:Manager by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad I am not on the MS team anymore. it would be fun.

      andy
      ex-msft

    68. Re:Manager by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      Gerund the Destroyer? Weren't you doing a FPS last year? All new leaders flap their wings. Let's see him fly before we shoot him down. Besides, what if he pulls it off?

      No. I came up with this sig on my own 10+ years ago but I see other people using variants of it from time to time. I enjoy the grammar nazis who occasionally point out that becoming isn't a gerund, missing the inner joke.

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  2. Good call by slashdice · · Score: 3, Interesting

    as a former MicroSoftie (research, don't be a hater) I can confirm that Ballmer was first and foremost a sales guy. He brought in the revenue but destroyed the culture and the company in the process. He was a corporate raider, he just did it from the inside.

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    1. Re:Good call by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Hater" is merely an excuse to dismiss another's opinion. You not only fail to discredit the other, you actually discredit yourself for not having a valid opinion.

      Forget "don't be a hater," try "don't be a dick."

    2. Re:Good call by AHuxley · · Score: 2

      What culture? The only aim was to ship software at a price to win over a generation of customers and keep them consuming the next versions.
      What changed? What was different from the early days? The productivity software runs, the games play, the cash flows.

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    3. Re:Good call by digsbo · · Score: 1

      What changed? What was different from the early days?

      What changed was selling development stacks that were both first-class tools aimed at real programmers (i.e. not VB compilers as glorified spreadsheet builders), embracing and NOT extending 3rd party and open source components, and open sourcing their own stuff (i.e. Roslyn).

      As a former open source guy, I find that I ENJOY using MS tools to build software, and increasingly see them working to make their stuff more and more interoperable and less and less locked in.

    4. Re:Good call by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Meanwhile some of us actually want to develop multiplatform software.

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    5. Re:Good call by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ironically, C# is probably the best language today to do multiplatform software: PC+Mac+Unix+Android+iOS (with a bit of help from Xamarin).

    6. Re:Good call by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MS is as closed as the first day, all of what they have open-sourced is irrelevant in the market.

    7. Re:Good call by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      And Microsoft will be happy to sell you an IDE for that.

      The corporate strategy does not revolve around MS stack top-to-bottom anymore. It hasn't been like that even in the last couple of years under Ballmer, but that has accelerated a lot under Satya.

    8. Re:Good call by digsbo · · Score: 1

      Then do so - and you're free to use non-MS tools to do so. But web application developers address multiplatform through browser support, and have no need to design for multiple hardware platforms. Mainframe developers and embedded developers usually focus on one hardware platform.

      The fact is that within JUST the web development world, there's a ton of open source stuff that's usable in tandem with MS technologies. So just because MS doesn't necessarily embrace multiple native development platforms doesn't mean they aren't supporting and interoperating with open source.

  3. When I Poop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I mean for that shit to hit the toilet!

  4. translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    reduce time it takes to get things done by having fewer people involved in each decision = layoffs

    quantify outcomes for products and use that data to predict future trends = every ms product will have facebook-like privacy-infringing malware

      increasing investment for employee training and development = get more h1b visas to replace us workers with foreign code monkeys

    1. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      LAYOFFS

      He'll do what all Indians in a position of power do -- preferentially hire and promote other Indians.

    2. Re:Translation by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      Unlike white people.

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    3. Re:Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      White people invented the concept of preferentially hiring indians. Now we've found it's even better to let them to "run" our companies. You really don't know how this race-card thing works?

    4. Re:translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      reduce time it takes to get things done by having fewer people involved in each decision = layoffs

      Layoffs for managers, perhaps. But I've worked in organizations with reporting chains stacked 10 levels or more, and it's dysfunctional. They need to get rid of some of the people that are in the decision signoff chain because they've been at MS for 20 years.

    5. Re:translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This! And remove the ability of principals in completely different product groups to stonewall the direction of a product their not even a part of. Everything about people being judged by "scope of influence" at ms is back asswards. People go out of their way to insert themselves into processes so they can be more visible and get promoted. And it's encouraged. Until that part of the promotion culture changes I don't see much hope.

  5. My last post was roundly criticised. by queazocotal · · Score: 2

    So, does 'crease' actually exist in this sense?

    1. Re:My last post was roundly criticised. by Virtucon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "we mean to increase the synergistic use of buzzwords to drive shareholder value and customer satisfaction."

      Seriously, there's a company I saw one time that had "We strive for our customer's affection." as their mission statement on the building. Nobody really listens to this shit. Net Net, he's going to fire a few talking heads, move some departments around and if you don't like it you can leave.

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    2. Re:My last post was roundly criticised. by c · · Score: 3, Funny

      I keep the following quote pinned in Google Keep to remind myself of what happens when corporate communications becomes completely divorced from reality:

      In other words, better execution and innovation through strategy and goal and discipline and engineering coherence.

      From the previous Microsoft CEO. Nice to see that Ballmer's ghostwriters are still with the company.

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    3. Re:My last post was roundly criticised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since you're so desperate to be pedantic ... try RTFA, you clown.

      And try making posts that aren't boring shit in the future.

  6. So...zero US employees? by gelfling · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sounds good. To Malaysia and Beyond!

    1. Re:So...zero US employees? by Virtucon · · Score: 2

      Sounds good. To Malaysia and Beyond!

      And to the bottom of the ocean, all at the same time.

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  7. Right.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does everybody have their bingo cards ready?

  8. Wha? by GrahamCox · · Score: 4, Interesting

    crease the fluidity of information and ideas by taking actions to flatten the organization

    What does that even mean? How can you 'crease the fluidity' of anything? Sound suspiciously like typical management-speak, and I don't think that's what MS needs at all.

    1. Re:Wha? by queazocotal · · Score: 1

      Other sources have it as 'increase'.

    2. Re:Wha? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2, Funny

      Other sources have it as 'increase'.

      Hey, knock off that fact-checking - people are incensed here!

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    3. Re:Wha? by Rich0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Flatten the organization is simple enough - fire or demote managers so that there are more people reporting to any particular manager.

      Really this sounds like the kind of buzz-speak I was hearing at work a few years ago when the same sorts of things were done. The same Accenture consultant probably wrote the slide deck.

      Fewer people = fewer people involved in each decision, etc. They always talk about changing the culture, because talking about layoffs doesn't exactly make people excited to go to work.

    4. Re:Wha? by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      Hey, knock off that fact-checking - people are incensed here!

      From the sounds of his announcement he's been burning too much AzureGreen. Wait, Washington did legalize pot recently! That explains it!

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    5. Re:Wha? by rmstar · · Score: 1

      Other sources have it as 'increase'.

      Actually, it is 'increase' already in the linked article. The quote is

      "We will increase the fluidity of information and ideas by taking actions to flatten the organization and develop leaner business processes,"

      And it actually makes sense.

    6. Re:Wha? by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Not a microsoftie, but my guess is that "flatten the organisation" refers to the organisational chart - he reckons there's too many layers of management.

      He may well be right. Too many layers of management often leads to stagnation because you wind up with every little decision having to be scrutinised to ensure it passes muster at every level of the chain. Personally, if I was a middle manager at Microsoft right now I'd be looking very seriously at polishing up my CV.

    7. Re:Wha? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      crease the fluidity of information

      Other sources have it as 'increase'.

      Hey, knock off that fact-checking - people are incensed here!

      Hey, knock off that fact-checking - people are censed here!

      Actually, I think he said, "grease the fluidity of information", and the speech to text system got it wrong.

      . . . or maybe he said, "lease the fluidity of information", and was referring to charging for Cloud Big Data Service.

      . . . to that end, "fleece the fluidity of information", would also make sense.

      . . . or something concerning security, "police the fluidity of information" . . . ?

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    8. Re:Wha? by DingerX · · Score: 1

      Yeah, "Flatten the structure" means, at some level, have fewer bosses responsible for more employees. "Increasing communication" means having more bosses responsible for fewer employees. Doing both together means firing the people the CEO's entourage doesn't like.

      reduce time it takes to get things done by having fewer people involved in each decision; = fire people.

      quantify outcomes for products and use that data to predict future trends; =If it doesn't sell in the first quarter, kill it. Predict the market by abandoning lethargic products and jumping on the winner. You know, like how the massive Kinect 1.0 sales led to the dominance of the XBone. On the other side, when PlaysForSure fails, replace it with the Zune Store, when that fails, replace it with the next. Then fire the whole team, except for the useless ones. Put them on the next iteration of Windows Phone.

      and increasing investment for employee training and development. =hire more of the consultants who write buzzkill press releases. Note it didn't say "increase our emphasis on employee training and development" or "find new ways to enrich our employees' skills and competencies", but rather "increasing investment for" -- "buy new things with this ostensible goal".

    9. Re:Wha? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How can you 'crease the fluidity' of anything?

      Why do I suspect that it involves someone taking the piss?

    10. Re:Wha? by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I think we can sum up the whole letter with "We're going to keep imitating Google and Apple."

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    11. Re:Wha? by gtall · · Score: 1

      One time I was watching Gen. Patraeus give a press conference by first giving a brief involving a lot of slides. One slide particularly stood out because it was so incomprehensible. It had arrows flying every which way, some pointing indistinctly at nothing in particular. Different kinds of arrows, blobs in clouds, starbursts, etc. The general was stumbling a bit in his words and he looks up, eyeballs the audience, and thanks the help he got from Microsoft employees in constructing that slide. That answers why it was incomprehensible but not why MS employees were helping him.

      Pooperpoint slides encourage a sort of mindless creativity that has no real purpose. This has stupefied many an organization via flows of information that start down in the trenches as being real information. By the time it reaches bullet points for the generals, it has been morphed into disinformation. It actually makes the organization dumber by encouraging the sort of people who demand bullet pointed idiocy to rise to a position they should never hold. At that point, they are merely bullet point consumers and producers, a sort of mutual recursive backscratching moron class that do their best job when they do nothing.

  9. Why highly paid CEOs underperform. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Interesting
    This is precisely why higher the CEO pay results in poorer performance by the company. All that pay, blinds the CEO, makes them think they are invincible, if the market is shoving that many billion dollars their way, they must be doing everything right. It sets up the eco system where flatterers, sycophants and yes men thrive insulating the CEO from real news and real feedback.

    To think one man, with some initiative can change the culture of a company the size of Microsoft, with entrenched interests, history of turf warfare and empire building is blowing smoke. That company went through spectacular expansion and growth in the 1990s. All those very capable people, the ones who have the vision and ability and the guts to skate too close to or even past the edges of legal behavior have all cashed out, burnt out or pushed out. As the able ones leave, the fraction of PHBs who are clueless when there is not a de-facto monopoly increases. They are playing the same game that used to be effective when there was a WinTel monopoly on desktops, and desktops had the monopoly on computing.

    A truly visionary CEO will realize this, break the company into pieces that will once again compete or perish and resign. But Satya Nadella is no Michail Gorbachev.

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    1. Re:Why highly paid CEOs underperform. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We are also under the delusion that the CEO's actions really matter. If you took the CEOs with the best track records and brought them in to run the businesses with the worst performance, how often would those companies become more profitable?.....the answer is roughly 60%. That isn't much better than the flip of a coin.

      And I"m to find another stat that said that a CEO contributes about 5% to a company's bottom line.

      There have been CEOs - Lou Gerstner's turn around of IBM in the early 90s comes to mind - that may have been worth it.

      But all in all, they are over paid for what they do. Yahoo!'s new CEO, for example, is just throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks. Marissa was the great blond hope for Yahoo! but she is turning out to be mediocre - like most CEOs. But, regardless of what happens, she'll get her $60 million - remember that when you bust your ass to meet a deadline and during your review you are told you could have done more and therefore you are rated as only "meeting objectives" and you just get a cost of living raise (1.5% If you didn't bust your ass working 60 hours a week for months, you would have gotten a "below standards" rating, no raise and if lucky you keep your job until they offshore your entire department.).

      Yep, we live in a meritocracy all right.

    2. Re:Why highly paid CEOs underperform. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "They are playing the same game that used to be effective when there was a WinTel monopoly on desktops, and desktops had the monopoly on computing."

      You forgot " when computing had a monopoly on IT and data comm resources, and porn had a monopoly on compulsive, self-indulgent consumption of useless mind candy." We won't cover the sordid topic of gaming here;-)

      ( Hoboken mom discovers weird diet trick that has doctors furious! 25 pics of Kim Kardashian's ego you have to see to believe! 10 power-saving tips THEY don't want you to know! All this on "reputable" websites along with the so-called news, weather, sports, etc., pretending to be real articles.)

      I got a culture change for ya.

    3. Re:Why highly paid CEOs underperform. by assertation · · Score: 1

      PHB ?

    4. Re:Why highly paid CEOs underperform. by jimicus · · Score: 2

      This is a fairly common problem, and it stems back to one thing.

      Finding staff is easy. You or I could place an advert tomorrow and we'd be snowed under this time next week. Problem is, drill through those applications and you'll probably find that 60% of the applicants couldn't even be bothered to make sure the job was vaguely appropriate for their skill set - and most of the remainder have such shocking interviews that you wonder why you bother.

      Finding good staff - people who will turn out to be a real asset - that is damnably difficult. And it's a problem that gets worse the higher up the management chain you go.

      I suspect that by the time you get to the very top of a huge organisation, you run into a problem: the number of people on the surface of the planet who have the experience, skills and ability needed are so few and far between that you'll be lucky if there's half a dozen potential candidates in the whole country.

    5. Re:Why highly paid CEOs underperform. by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      I suspect that by the time you get to the very top of a huge organisation, you run into a problem: the number of people on the surface of the planet who have the experience, skills and ability needed are so few and far between that you'll be lucky if there's half a dozen potential candidates in the whole country.

      This may be true, but looking from the performance of who actually gets hired shows that often (not always, of course) they *don't* appear to have the experience, skills, and ability needed, or are overly self-confident to the point of dismissing data that clearly shows reality is different from their assumptions. A lot of times, a company's success is due to simple common sense and selling what people actually want to buy regardless of who's running the company.

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    6. Re:Why highly paid CEOs underperform. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

      Pointy Haired Bosses. Dilbert reference.

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    7. Re:Why highly paid CEOs underperform. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or he'll just move the concentration from protecting and leveraging Windows to protecting and leveraging Microsoft Office since it is there only other monopoly position. His plan seems to be to tie everything they can to MS Office and reduce the approval process for new products which tie into MS Office so they get out faster.

      yawn

    8. Re:Why highly paid CEOs underperform. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
      Then the right thing to do is to realize that the company is too big to manage and split it into smaller pieces. That is the job of the board of directors. But the board and the CEO form a conspiracy to milk the corporation instead of providing true value to their customers. They give huge pay to CEOs, who in turn spend lavishly on the board. They nominate each other for directorships. This is corruption at the highest levels, and it is all legal because they are all private entities. Till the board is sued by the share holders for malpractice and held accountable they will not change.

      Small investors like you and I may not have the resources to sue. But these giant mutual funds that own significant parts of these companies too give them too much of a latitude. If the giant mutual funds, Vanguard, Fidelity, Schwab and a few more join together to form a Corporate Governance Auditing Board or something and hold the directors' feet to the fire, and fire them for incompetence and sue them for malpractice, then things might change.

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    9. Re:Why highly paid CEOs underperform. by jimicus · · Score: 1

      That was pretty much my point.

      You'll find similar results at every level in every business: put simply, hiring good staff is so difficult that it's a totally unsolved problem.

      Seriously.

      Nobody knows how to do it with any degree of reliability. All those weird interview questions that seem to serve no purpose but to puff up the interviewer? Pointless. They might as well put everyone's name into a hat to pick who they're going to hire.

  10. Vague and positive-sounding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Increasing the fluidity of information and ideas by taking actions to flatten the organisation and develop leaner business processes is not vague, and at least if you're someone in Microsoft whose career relies on one of those well-documented organisational unit fiefdoms, it's not positive.

    There will be many at MS who see that phrase as anything but vague; it's aimed at them.

  11. PHB by Tokolosh · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Am I the only one thinking this?

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    1. Re:PHB by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      That would be quite an accomplishment for someone with Nadella's pate.

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  12. In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Santa Claus was seen over the North Pole on his annual 4th of July flght to deliver civil rights to children all over the world.

    His flight was, unfortunately, grounded by the middle management at the reindeer stable, who had used up all the funding for planning lunches among the elf leadership and had nothing left to actually feed the reindeer with, and his failure to obtain valid visas from countries that did not exist when his flight first launched, as happens every year. But the Powerpoint presentations were *fabulous*, and all the VP's gave themselves big stock bonuses.

    Seriously, Microsoft lost its way when the dancing monkey took over ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc ). And middle management is never going to let it find its way again: Too many settled paperwork pushers, too many turf wars, too big of an established monopoly customer base to really move on newer technologies. Microsoft Office has overwhelmed itself with useless interface frippery instead of actually publishing an API or handling large documents, The Windows 9 "le't pretend we're a Mac but get everything wrong" stupidity has turned Windows 8 in to the next Windows XP, which no one will be able to move off of, the compiler's a non-POSIX-compliant joke that no one can trust.

    Let's face it, they've screwed themselves into a corner and would need a plague of middle management eating necrotic viruses to clear the bureaucracy for new management to change anything.

  13. CEO Madlibs? by Snufu · · Score: 3, Funny

    "crease the fluidity of information and ideas by taking actions to flatten the organization and develop leaner business processes"

    1. Re:CEO Madlibs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many have long wished to flatten the MS organization :-) Although distancing oneself from flattening by Obama-esque "taking action to" suggests his heart really isn't in any particular rush to improvement.

      "Creas-ed Fluidity" sounds like a Queensryche number. Silent stupidity, I guess.

      "leaner business practices" What was it about lean men and sharks? I think we may be getting to the meat of the matter here. This guy is no mere PHB (Pagri Headed Boss?);-), he is likely a remainder man.

      Oh, well, back to hacking clients' property management spreadsheets.

  14. It's a No Brainer Win-Win at the End of the Day by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Interesting
    People who speak like this generally do so in an attempt to disguise a lack of communication skills and new ideas.

    It may be the management culture he was raised in, and I had higher hopes for the Indian-born CEO (diversity, new perspective), but he was also reportedly emailing employees the company would reinvent productivity.

    So, likely we'll get SSDD... and less entertainment value than Ballmer provided.

    --
    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

    Ernest Hemingway

    1. Re:It's a No Brainer Win-Win at the End of the Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SSDD....so, like they're going to reinvent Single-Sided Double Density?

    2. Re:It's a No Brainer Win-Win at the End of the Day by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      Good, someone got that.

      I was afraid I'd been a touch ambiguous.

      --
      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

      Ernest Hemingway

    3. Re:It's a No Brainer Win-Win at the End of the Day by Entropius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't want them to "reinvent productivity" -- I want them to stop buying other people's things and making them suck (Skype) and stop working hard to make their own things suck (Windows 8).

    4. Re:It's a No Brainer Win-Win at the End of the Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They did make Skype suck, but they also recently fixed it so that it will remain connected despite all the different VPN changing I might do. I don't remember the old Skype doing that.

    5. Re:It's a No Brainer Win-Win at the End of the Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      leftist 'diversity' solves nothing..

    6. Re:It's a No Brainer Win-Win at the End of the Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      YES!. Thank you. Well said.

  15. Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I didn't know much about Satya Nadella, so I did some reasearch.

    This is what Wikipedia tells me about him (I'm assuming it's valid; there are citations after all!):

    Early life

    Satya Nadella[9][10][11] was born in Hyderabad, in a Telugu family from Anantapur district[12][13] in Andhra Pradesh, India. His father was a civil servant in the Indian Administrative Service,[12][13] Nadella attended the Hyderabad Public School in Begumpet[14] before attaining a bachelor of engineering in Electronics and Telecommunications from the Manipal Institute of Technology in 1987 (then affiliated to Mangalore University), Manipal, Karnataka.[15][16][17][18][19]

    Nadella subsequently traveled to the US on a student visa to study for an MS degree in Computer Science at the University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee,[20] receiving his degree in 1990.[21] Later he received an MBA from the University of Chicago Booth School of Business.[22][23]

    Nadella said he "always wanted to build things."[24] He knew that computer science was what he wanted to pursue.[25] But that emphasis was not available at Manipal University. "And so it [electronic engineering] was a great way for me to go discover what turned out to become a passion," he says.[26]
    Career

    Nadella worked with Sun Microsystems, as a member of its technology staff, prior to joining Microsoft in 1992.[2][3]
    Microsoft

    At Microsoft Nadella has led major projects including the company's move to cloud computing and the development of one of the largest cloud infrastructures in the world.[27]

    Nadella worked as the senior vice-president of research and development (R&D) for the Online Services Division and vice-president of the Microsoft Business Division. Later, he was made the president of Microsoft's $19 billion Server and Tools Business and led a transformation of the company's business and technology culture from client services to cloud infrastructure and services. He has been credited for helping bring Microsoft's database, Windows Server and developer tools to its Azure cloud.[28] The revenue from Cloud Services grew to $20.3 billion in June 2013 from $16.6 billion when he took over in 2011.[29]

    Nadella's 2013 base salary is nearly $700,000, for a total compensation, with stock bonuses, of $7.6 million.[30]

    Previous positions held by Nadella include:[31]

            President of the Server & Tools Division (9 February 2011 – February 2014)
            Senior Vice-President of Research and Development for the Online Services Division (March 2007 – February 2011)[32]
            Vice-President of the Business Division
            Corporate Vice-President of Business Solutions and Search & Advertising Platform Group
            Executive Vice-President of Cloud and Enterprise group[15]

    On 4 February 2014, Nadella was announced as the new CEO of Microsoft,[7][8] the third chief executive in the company's history.[33][34][35][36]

    I've put the important points in bold.

    He is no average man! He is a GOD among us mere mortals. All of the best technology experts come from Hyderabad. Hyderabad Public School in Begumpet is one of the most prestigious institutions to attend. And the Manipal Institute of Technology is world renowned for the superb learning experience it imparts on its students. To be honest, I don't even care about his other credentials or work experience. His origins alone show that he is more than me, his is more than you, and he is more than everybody else. He is more.

    1. Re: Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Try getting a decent version of Windows out the door Nadella, THEN you can anonymously pat yourself on the back in the comments.

      I guess "nothing is off the table" means that astroturfing on social media sites is fair game too, eh Microsoft PR?

    2. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > President of the Server & Tools Division (9 February 2011 – February 2014)

      Ahh... he oversaw flattening the GUI.

      Genius.

    3. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >led a transformation of the company's business and technology culture from client services to cloud infrastructure and services.
      led a transformation from client services to cloud infrastructure and services.
      transformation from client services to cloud infrastructure and services.
      transformation from client services
      Fuck you clients!

    4. Re: Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How much were you paid for all of that shit you just typed?

      PR lackeys like you have less morals than the people who employ you. Goebbels would have been proud.

    5. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      How the heck would "Server & Tools Division" suggest that?

    6. Re: Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The guy just said that he wanted to see some proof of excellence in the appropriate context before applauding it. The fact that Nadella prospered under a declining Microsoft suggests that he is less interested in creating a positive impact and more in climbing the greasy pole. Time will tell.

    7. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by davester666 · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's the division that does UI design for Microsoft.

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      Sleep your way to a whiter smile...date a dentist!
    8. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Oh...

    9. Re: Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      It's now 1D

    10. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh...

      just like a ten second google search would have revealed to you, you helpless lazy passive bastard

    11. Re: Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're kidding sure though it doesn't come out that way. Granted HPSB is a well known school but Manipal is just a hangout for rich kids who want to party in Goa. Nadella's creds are just avg at most. Clearly his work and a good deal of good fortune (good ol randomness) have brought him to this place.

    12. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A ten second Google search would have revealed GP entire posting history too. Let's just do away with all forums, chats and any person to person communications because we can just Google everything...

      Stupid fuck.

    13. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    14. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4chan is that way.

    15. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Really? I posted that as a joke. I would have thought the OS and/or Application divisions [or whatever divisions they are part of] would be doing the UI...

      --
      Sleep your way to a whiter smile...date a dentist!
    16. Re: Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fella who posted that wikipedia content here , is an idiot .

      Nadella comes from a small shithole town , from an average third world school (with access to clean drinking water) , and from a typical mediocre engineering college that churns out outsoursing "cannon fodder" by the hundreds .. and now he's the CEO of a giant corporate turd called micro$fot. It all fits . nothing special here .. lets move on .

    17. Re: Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Win9 is due next year, and basically promises to be the Win7 to the Vista which has been Win8. We shall see.

    18. Re:Satya Nadella is not just anyone! by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      What made you believe that? S&T is the division that does things like SQL Server, SharePoint and Visual Studio. More recently, Azure.

      The guys that do UI were mostly in Windows (duh) and E&D (Windows Phone, Xbox) in the old corporate structure.

  16. Translation by Simulant · · Score: 3, Interesting


    LAYOFFS

  17. How come... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    automation eliminates my job but never those jobs?

  18. how hierachal is MS now? by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

    I've seen numerous talks/podcasts with MS employees and it seemed pretty flat. Many say things like my bosses boss (head of enterprise software) says we should XYZ for our customers. Maybe by the time you get invited to podcasts you are already pretty senior but a lot of them sounded like they were just a member of a team, ASP or C# say. If that is any indication of the hierachy though it probably is only 5-6 levels to the CEO which isn't bad when you have 130k employees basically breaking the company up with each junior manager managing 20 people, their manager managing 20 managers etc all the way up would do that.

    1. Re:how hierachal is MS now? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      5-6 levels sounds about right. I'm 7 levels down from the top right now (and don't have anyone under me), but this is the most that I ever had.

      Being invited to the podcasts is not necessarily based on seniority, but even if it does, a principal dev has maybe 1-2 fewer management layers above them compared to plain SDEs.

  19. Cutbacks...He means cutbacks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "reduce time it takes to get things done by having fewer people involved in each decision"

    Get that resume ready folks...

  20. Microsoft has done better than FOSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In spite of the criticism of Microsoft under Steve Balmer, Microsoft, produced the fine Windows 7 Desktop Environment, which is superior to any Desktop Environment that the FOSS has produced, for the average American. They have better APIs, (no X11, or ALSA), better looking icons, and less bugs.

    1. Re:Microsoft has done better than FOSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And more NSA backdoors, which you can't verify and/or fix because it's proprietary software.

      Principles and freedom are more important than being Shiny.

    2. Re:Microsoft has done better than FOSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      X11 is mostly just very old and the problems with sound in Linux is a design flaw in the kernel that's not going to get fixed any time soon.

    3. Re:Microsoft has done better than FOSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no idea about what you just said. Absolutely bass ackwards, you must have meant M$.

    4. Re:Microsoft has done better than FOSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I must assume you're a Microsoft employee. Windows 7 isn't that great. It has many minor usability problems just like Ubuntu. It has higher memory use and slower performance than windows 8.1. It requires many clicks to get anything done. It has a poor command line interface. It drains battery on laptops quicker than linux or BSD.

      Windows 7 is the new XP. Everyone will hold on to it for their lifetime. For the same reasons win 7 users think XP users are idiots, we think the same about you.

  21. Fucking MBA Speak by Pete+Venkman · · Score: 4, Funny

    MBA's have the amazing ability to fit a lot of words into very little meaning.

    1. Re:Fucking MBA Speak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You're not wrong. Around 2004-2005 is roughly when the "old guard" left Microsoft in droves, having made their fortunes. Instead of replacing talented engineers with more talented engineers, Ballmer and co decided to bring in (more) armies of MBAs and marketing drones and began the process of turning everything imaginable into a revenue source - even areas which had at the time been largely left untouched (e.g MSDN/dev tools).
      Between XP Service Pack 2 and Windows Vista is when this transition was most felt, and Vista RTM became a poster child for engineering values being thrown out the window in favour of an overtly aggressive marketing plan. If Satya wants to turn Microsoft around they need to fire the MBAs and the marketing drones and bring in real engineers and go back to Microsoft's roots.

  22. Hope He Succeeds by assertation · · Score: 1

    Corporate culture has a way of pushing back.

    Look at home lame Yahoo still is technically, even with former Google engineer Marissa Mayer as their CEO.

    OTOH, engineers don't specialize in managing people and that is what is needed in changing a corporate culture. That is tough to do even with people who are talented with people, as well as people who aren't pregnant when taking over a company.

  23. translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here come the cubicles, you know, to increase "the fluidity of information."

  24. He wants to bring back the paperclip -- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...and, he's very big on out-sourcing and right-sizing.

  25. Grade so far by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wants to change culture A+

    Talks in manager Mumbo Jumbo F

  26. Apache by tepples · · Score: 5, Funny

    Indians. Hmmm... So does this mean Microsoft is giving up IIS and switching to Apache?

    1. Re:Apache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

      Indians. Hmmm... So does this mean Microsoft is giving up IIS and switching to Apache?

      Wrong Indians. Besides North American "Indians" are called First Nations these days leaving the term "Indian" as a label for the people of the former British Colony and home of the East India Company. With news of the recent city council sanctioned gang rape of a fourteen year old girl in India these people are role models in the eyes of corporatists.

  27. Replacing Xbox with FOSS? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Any idea on how to crate an alternative to Microsoft's Xbox business unit with "principles and freedom"? Historically, there haven't been a lot of major studio video games released as free software from day one.

  28. Changing MS's corporate culture will be tough by Streetlight · · Score: 2

    Changing MS's corporate culture will be comparable to driving a fully loaded mega oil tanker through the same S curves as Formula 1 cars traverse. In another word, impossible. By the time any minimal action is started in this area, Nadella will likely be retired or fired.

    --
    In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell
  29. Company grading system by semios · · Score: 2

    He could start by changing the company's grading system from an "individual selection" to a "group selection" system since the individual selection fosters competition and group selection fosters cooperation.

  30. In Plain English... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're going to be more transparent. We're going to make healthcare affordable for everyone. We're going to fix immigration. Oh, and we lost those emails because our hard drive crashed.

  31. Thank you for coming, everyone by paiute · · Score: 1

    My grandfather was lucid right up until the end, until he convulsed and cried out some gibberish, which I thought was: "Crease the fluidity of information and ideas by taking actions to flatten the organization and develop leaner business processes!", but that sounds too outlandish to be real. Then he passed away.

    --
    If Slashdot were chemistry it would look like this:Cadaverine
  32. Make better products? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised that making better products (from the perspective of their customers) isn't mentioned.

    Microsoft products have tended to get worse over time, and rely on more lock-in without improving for the customer.

    Any company with a business plan like this is going to suffer.

  33. Real life PHB from Dilbert by vcetina · · Score: 1

    That sentences sound like a tag line from the Pointy Haired Boss from a Dilbelrt cartoon jejejejejeje, Scott Adams is a genius!!!

  34. Corporate speak paradox by kruach+aum · · Score: 2

    I don't understand how people with such a poor command of meaningful language are able to effectively manage and lead multi-billion dollar corporations.

    I suppose it is possible that they are capable, secretly, of conveying meaning by the use of words, but then why would they hide this ability from investors? Surely a CEO who doesn't sound like a retard inspires more confidence than one who does?

    1. Re:Corporate speak paradox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also called Bull Shitting the Bull Shitters.

    2. Re:Corporate speak paradox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *insert buzz-phrase here*

  35. +1 Funny? by globaljustin · · Score: 1

    heh...

    so above there are a few people arguing over whether parent is a 'plant' comment...

    either way...it made me laugh

    --
    Thank you Dave Raggett
  36. came here to post the same by globaljustin · · Score: 1

    i was going to post something similar (i usually use blockquote) but you pretty much hit it

    i lol'ed when i saw "quantify outcomes"...

    seriously..."quantify outcomes"...might as well say "keep toilet paper stocked"...the whole fskign world runs on quantified outcomes...i'm dismayed not because a M$ CEO is throwing out doublespeak BS...no, that is expected of course...it's what he chose to say that indicates his vision for M$ will be more of the same only more efficient internally

    --
    Thank you Dave Raggett
  37. Lion Food by bmo · · Score: 2

    Two lions who, escaping from the zoo, split up to increase their chances but agree to meet after 2 months. When they finally meet, one is skinny and the other overweight. The thin one says: âoeHow did you manage? I ate a human just once and they turned out a small army to chase me â" guns, nets, it was terrible. Since then I've been reduced to eating mice, insects, even grass.â The fat one replies: âoeWell, I hid outside the door at One Microsoft Way and ate a manager a day. And nobody even noticed!â

    --
    BMO

  38. This is what it means by raftpeople · · Score: 1

    increase fluidity of information

    Apparently the information at MS is not very fluid, so this is a serious attempt at making that information much more fluider

    and ideas

    This one suspiciously coincides with the legalization of pot in WA state

    flatten the organization

    I think this is really a statement about facilities, there is a lot of wasted vertical space so most likely they will be installing something like those Japanese "drawer" hotels (where the person lays in what looks like a human sized drawer). They should be able to put a screen and keyboard in there so people can work laying down. I'm guessing they can get 3x more people in each building with this system.

  39. what should be off the table by bzipitidoo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nothing is off the table? Does the table include lying, doublespeak, file format lock in, using proxies to sue Linux users, bribing and strongarming standardization committee members, the whole embrace, extend, and exterminate strategy that they tried with Java and IE, Windows Genuine Advantage, staying in bed with the copyright extremists of the entertainment industry, continued support of organizations like the Business Software Alliance? Is any of that off the table?

    If MS's new CEO isn't acknowledging that they went too far with that stuff, and that the company will go in a new direction, stop being anti-social, stop being evil, then the new CEO represents no real change, just some minor adjustments.

    --
    Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
    1. Re:what should be off the table by Shaman · · Score: 1

      This. Exactly this. Everytime I hear someone apologize for Microsoft, I can't help but stare at them blankly. It's like Dumbledore and Harry Potter (this is news for NERDS still, right?) .. are you sure you ever really knew them at all?

      --
      ...Steve
    2. Re: what should be off the table by cyber-vandal · · Score: 1

      But but they're good now honest! Most of the apologists here don't know and usually aren't interested in the history and just assume it's jealousy or just about IE being the default browser.

  40. He used to head Bing by Animats · · Score: 1

    Nadella used to run Bing. Did anything change there while he was in charge?

    1. Re:He used to head Bing by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Well a lot of money was spent to no particular effect. That's kind of like change.

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      The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
  41. Good luck with that by emaname · · Score: 1

    Who's still on the board?

    --
    An effective "democracy" creates the illusion the people have a say in their government.
  42. Re: USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You do realize USB sucks right? It is cheap though, meeting Intel's primary goal.

  43. The new Microsoft CEO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    needs to realize the requirements for entertainment devices and for corporate computing devices are VERY different.
    I, for one, do not want a "consistent" experience. I want an appropriate experience.

  44. The important bit by russotto · · Score: 1

    Most of it is empty business-speak; I especially like "Today I want to synthesize the strategic direction" for pure meaningless noise. However, there is one meaningful part: "We'll use the month of July to have a dialogue about this bold ambition and our core focus. [...]Over the course of July, the Senior Leadership Team and I will share more on the engineering and organization changes we believe are needed."

    Meaning? They'll take July to make up the lists, then layoffs in early August.

  45. "crease the fluidity of information" WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, you mean "INcrease the fluidity", but couldn't be bothered to read your own summary. Who writes this shit?

  46. M$ CEO says nothing is off the table . . . by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

    . . . including offshoring all of Micro$oft's jobs to my mother country, India!

  47. Linux Will Never Touch The Desktop??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Although Linux is really hurting the inroads that MS made into the server market, it will never touch the desktop until it's just as easy to use.

    For an elderly couple today, I swapped out a Linksys WRT54G for a Netgear capable of 802.11ac. This is how each computer reacted:

    -The Nook (Running Linux) found the new network, asked for a password, grabbed an IP address, and was on the network in seconds.
    -The Android Tablet (Running Linux) found the new network, asked for a password, grabbed an IP address, and was on the network in seconds.
    -The Samsung Phone (Running Linux) found the new network, asked for a password, grabbed an IP address, and was on the network in seconds.
    -The Samsung TV (Running Linux) found the new network, asked for a password, grabbed an IP address, and was on the network in seconds.
    -The LG TV (Running Linux) found the new network, asked for a password, grabbed an IP address, and was on the network in seconds.
    -The HP Printer (Running ?) found the new network, asked for a password, grabbed an IP address, and was on the network in seconds.
    -The Toshiba Laptop (Running Windows 8) saw the network, never asked for a password, had to be manually configured to access the network, grabbed an IP address, and was on the network in minutes.
    -The other Toshiba Laptop (Running Windows 7) saw the network, never asked for a password, had to be manually configured to access the network, grabbed an IP address, and was on the network in minutes.

    Re-installing the printer on Windows was also a Windows Update adventure. I almost forgot, both Windows machines had malware. Talk about unusable.

  48. End users experience the products, not the culture by dpbsmith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd much rather hear him say:

    "I use Windows 8.1 on a desktop and it sucks. Windows 9 is going to be good on desktops and we are not going to release it until it is.

    AND, we are going to play fair with users and make sure that every security patch we develop for Windows Embedded Industry is also SQAed on and made available to all Windows XP users. It may not make us the most money but it's the right thing to do."

    Corporate culture? I am an end-user, I don't care what Microsoft's corporate culture is, I care about its products.

  49. Things he may have missed: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some things he may have missed:
    * progressively syndicate extensible expertise
    * progressively formulate error-free systems
    * distinctively supply optimal potentialities
    * effectively maximise visionary leadership skills
    * enthusiastically aggregate synergistic web-readiness
    * objectively procrastinate business web-readiness
    * seamlessly matrix future-proof services
    * seamlessly leverage other's parallel sources
    * distinctively simplify strategic systems. ... These and other management B.S. buzzword terms brought to you by the Management B.S. buzzword generator.
    And thanks again...

  50. I guarantee this will go nowhere. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've worked for big tech companies exactly like Microsoft for 20 years (it's a small list). By the time they get to this size they go through this inevitable phase, which is entrenched, slow thinking and work. A new CEO vows to speed things up, and ... so far there isn't one example of a company that pulled this off. The problem is that it gets bloated with too many people used to working a certain way, and they're all getting older. The ones who want to be innovative either leave or do it outside of work, as it becomes impossible to do so in the company.

  51. Snoor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I long ago decided that when I retired (and I just did) that my next computer would be an Apple. I've spent my whole career dealing with Unix then Linux systems in the back room and Microsoft trash on Corporate desktops. I already have an iPad and an iPhone and my kids and wife have long since turned their backs to Microsoft products. I'm next.

    My 8 core Xenon, 16 GB ram system running Windows 7 will be my last system running Microsoft products. I've even managed to convince my last employer to begin replacing his Window XP and Window 7 systems with Linux desktops. That, however, will not be my problem.

  52. What if they adopted Unix underneath? by w1gglyw0rld · · Score: 1

    This has nothing to do with shaking up corporate culture, agreed. But I mean, the back slash as a path separator was just wrong from the beginning IMO. Could MS regain developer community support by realigning its foundation from DOS to Unix? Developer support == apps == users == happy, in simplest terms. I have no stake in the matter, I'm an Apple person (talk about lock-in). I just want to see such an instrumental contributor to the industry get itself back on track.

    1. Re:What if they adopted Unix underneath? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      More like, no back-compat == millions of mad existing users and developers (for Windows) == not happy.

  53. Changing everything is not always a good thing by Salgat · · Score: 1

    While it is good to change something if need be, it can be very detrimental to be overexcited, ready to change everything to how you see fit, and end up causing a lot more problems that solving. On the lower levels you'll especially see this with power hungry over ambitious managers who take advantage of their role to completely change how things are done, regardless of whether the old way actually worked. The best way to "shake things up" is to slowly transition and test your new ideas so you don't create a mess in the process.