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New Technology Uses Cellular Towers For Super-Accurate Weather Measurements
Iddo Genuth (903542) writes "Israeli scientists from the Tel Aviv University perfected a method for using cell phone service towers' microwave emitters to measure rain and snow and even (for the first time ) detect fog with great accuracy over vast areas in real time. The research team members have analyzed endless amounts of raw cellular data and developed more accurate ways to measure meteorological information and added more parameters that they can now measure using their growing database. When combined with existing meteorological monitoring technologies such as radars and local ground based weather stations, the results show unprecedented level of accuracy that can give better and further weather forecast as well as special warnings about upcoming floods, fog and hail which can affect both people and crop production."
Too bad the post office isn't as efficient as the weather service.
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In a related story, the NSA has received generous funding to start producing detailed weather forecasts.
What about UV index or temperature or humidity? I meant if they arent measured on the same spot as everything else then the usefulness of those will suffer
Climate change is settled science yet our current measurement systems are not optimal. And computer models tell us about historic data that wasn't really even measured.
The only differences being that with cell towers, the receivers and transmitters are controlled by two independent parties and the signal itself was not intended for that particular purpose.
You know exactly where the tower is, you can easily reconstruct the RF signal as-transmitted by receiving the bitstream yourself and calculating the original signal as-sent. All that is left to do is compute the correlation between measured signals across your receiver network and weather along the receiver-transmitter path and their immediate surroundings.
This is a bit like a radar version of passive sonar.
Let see WWII era non guided rockets vs US supplied Laser guided missiles Some kind of dire conflict my ass
Very, very simple.
USPS has 491,000 employees, and has peaked at 779,083 employees.
Since 1960 it has had more than 491,000 employees.
This is a CRIPPLING number of people on pay and obviously pension.
FedEx currently has 300,000 employees and they all work.
NOAA has ~12,000 employees, which even if half of them dont do any work
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Your statements are either out of ignorance or hate/bigotry.
Hundreds of rockets were fired at Israel in the past month alone. Israel didn't respond. Finally Israel said if you don't stop, we will respond. And what happened? The rocket fire rate increase. Even now, as Israel makes half attempts to stop the rocket fire with limited strikes, they have offered Gaza a ceasefire if they stop the rocket attacks. Gaza refused, saying they want to fight this war to the bitter end. The Gazans only have themselves to blame for drawing a reluctant Israel into a pointless war.
Feel bad for all the rational civilians who are caught up in this nonsense on both sides, but don't act like the Palestinians are innocent victims.
My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
Turns out that it's easy to measure the weather with a cell phone tower.
How can we continue to believe in a just universe and freedom to eat crackers if we have no ale?
The research team members have analyzed endless amounts of raw cellular data and...
I'm left wondering:
First I learned about the "partners" that charge for "premium" services (such as third party "text messaging"-based services). I learned about that because of charges showing up on cell phone bills. Then I learned about the data that has been getting delivered to the NSA. Now I read that cell phone companies are providing the raw data from their towers, by sharing these details to people who have newfangled ideas about how to predict the weather.
Is there anybody that the cell phone companies doesn't share information with?
We all know the answer to that : these companies must prevent customers from being able to have answers about their own bills, or else there'd be risk of accountability.
The military application is that it is rumoured to be able to detect stealth aircraft.
Watch this Heartland Institute video
The military application is that it is rumoured to be able to detect stealth aircraft.
No rumor that. Dunno about cell towers, but it was shown pretty conclusively in the '90s that the "hole in the sky" caused when a stealth aircraft blocks FM radio signals can be seen. Depends of course on having a good FM sensor and a solid transmitter or two in the area.
https://app.box.com/WitthoftResume Code: https://github.com/cellocgw
Because using their cell towers as cell towers is pretty much a complete fucking waste of time. (yes I know cell towers are owned and operated by 3rd parties)
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USPS handles the volume of mail Fedex does every day. They also serve more customers in more places. Go to rural Alaska, send a postcard via USPS. Fedex will not be available, but your postcard will arrive at its destination quickly. Go to any country in Central America. Fedex will be available in major cities. Using the postal system will be an exercise in futility.
USPS is a strong candidate for the best postal system in the world. Don't you have a bridge to be lurking under?
Fedex depends on USPS for last mile delivery in a lot of places. USPS handles orders of magnitude more deliveries than Fedex.
Based on that, they are much MORE efficient than Fedex.
Learn to use email. I thought you big government leftist types like to save trees. Well USPS wastes the most trees by far.
I also note that the USPS gets used to send me mountains of trash unsolicited mail which is wasteful and useless to me.
A huge part of identity fraud is from people taking insecure USPS mail and lifting private information
Also of note that exactly none of my Amazon purchases come in USPS. Funny, as Amazon is known for brutal efficiency.
Whenever I see you or your fat, blue clothed leftist Statist fat pigs walking around in your cankel blue socks and your stupid key chains and your stupid sack I think of all the retirement money you and your hairy moles will get at the expense of my children's future income.
Thank you for your fail, Stalinist police state loving medicoritomaton. That's right your an automaton of mediocrity serving the police state.
Awwww, did I make someone feel like a braying ass?
Who's a braying ass? YOU're a braying ass, yes you ARE!
Learn to speak like a grownup and I'll stop with the baby talk.
Mositure and temprature variations causes bending of GPS wavepaths and small delays. Geophysicists ave been studying the "noise" in large scale GPS data to measure atmospheric conditions. Right now this mostly from dedicated high frequency tectonics GPS stations like Earthscope. There could be a way to "crowdsource" smartphone users for more data.
Rain fade, it's not a bug, it is a feature!
I do a reference to Back to the Future III, and you guys go on to debate about the USPS.
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I wonder if they could extend and improve their "iron dome" with this?
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Would be great if they could knock all the Palestinian missiles out of the air instead of bombing the sh*t out of the lauch sites (which the launchers tend to put in urban areas).