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Sony Forgets To Pay For Domain, Hilarity Ensues

First time accepted submitter Dragoness Eclectic writes Early Tuesday, gamers woke up to find out that they couldn't log in to any Sony Online Entertainment games--no Everquest, no Planetside 2, none of them. Oddly, the forums where company reps might have posted some explanation weren't reachable, either. A bit of journalistic investigation by EQ2Wire came across the explanation: SOE forgot to renew the domain registration on SonyOnline.net, the hidden domain that holds all their nameservers. After 7 weeks of non-payment post-expiration, NetworkSolutions reclaimed the domain, sending all access to Sony's games into an internet black hole. Sony has since paid up. SOE's president, John Smedley, has admitted that the expiration notices were being sent to an "unread email" address.

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  1. Black hole? by djupedal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hole in someone's head, maybe - after all, a simple spreadsheet to track something this basic or a reminder in a calendar with alerts with someone assigned to keep an eye on things would take care of things like this. They're lucky it wasn't held hostage...

    1. Re:Black hole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You want to assign someone to keep an eye on things that can be fully automated? Is your hair pointy?

    2. Re:Black hole? by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Same thing happened to Turbine a couple years back: DDO, LotR, etc all down for exactly the same reason. You wouldn't think this would be that hard to get right, but chances are no one in dev at either company survived from the early days to when the problem happened, so the tribal knowledge was lost.

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    3. Re:Black hole? by geekoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      " simple spreadsheet to track something"
      that is the bane of corporations. Important info sitting in a spreadsheet, somewhere.

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    4. Re:Black hole? by theskipper · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's no law per se, but there is a recent ICANN requirement called "Whois Accuracy Data Specification". It requires registrars to contact the registrant and click an emailed link as validation that their whois info is correct. The domain can be suspended if the validation isn't done within 15 days.

      The intent is good but the implementation is pretty mindboggling. They're expecting every owner of a domain name to check that the email sent to them is not a phishing attempt...how that's supposed to work reliably is anyone's guess.

      So, yeah, owners are supposed to verify to the registrars that the info is accurate which you could say is "ICANN's law". But not legally. Here's one of many articles that goes deeper into the issue:

      http://blog.easydns.org/2014/0...

    5. Re:Black hole? by raftpeople · · Score: 4, Funny

      Good point, I better print the email reminder and place that in the three ring binder that sits behind my desk.

    6. Re:Black hole? by TitusGroan8856 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      have you heard of automated systems breaking? this is why someone should be assigned and responsible for it.

    7. Re:Black hole? by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've fucked up and forgot when an SSL cert was about to expire. I found out the next morning when their iPhones could no longer access the Exchange server. Shit happens. This time I include SSL, Domain, and Server hardware warranty expiration notices scheduled way in advanced in my calendar as an event.

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    8. Re:Black hole? by ketomax · · Score: 4, Informative

      I bought mine for 10 no problems.

    9. Re:Black hole? by ArcadeNut · · Score: 4, Informative

      Network Solutions offers it:

      http://www.networksolutions.co...

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    10. Re:Black hole? by cryogenix · · Score: 4, Insightful

      100 year registration is dirt cheap compared to what happened as a result of it expiring :)

    11. Re:Black hole? by cryogenix · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It wouldn't hurt to have a distribution group for this and then make yourself and others a member of the group, even if it's your boss. Best case scenario, he gets the alert and says, Bob, did you see the alert about... Already took care of it this morning. Good man.

  2. Re:ring ring by Zaelath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I immediately thought this too, but you try ringing one of these corporations and see how far you get.

  3. 7 weeks? by MrLogic17 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wow, giving the company 7 weeks before Network Solutions took the site down? That's going way above & beyond. The average luser like me would be taken down the day of expiration.
     

  4. Black hole? by Bovius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This sort of lapse has happened in every company I've worked in, big and small, when the person formerly responsible for this kind of thing leaves the company and someone else has to pick up their responsibilities. Sloppy, unorganized? You betcha. Also what I've come to expect.

  5. Re:ring ring by perpenso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ]The real problem is that Sony couldn't be arsed to register the domain names using a working e-mail address that actually goes to the person at Sony who is responsible for such a thing.

    Not quite, it should be a special purpose email like domain_registration@sony.com rather than an employee email. However the special purpose email should forward to those responsible, involved or overseeing the particular thing. The special purpose email should not be something that someone is supposed to log in to.

  6. "Hilarity Ensues" by steelfood · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hilarity Ensues

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

    Now, if some domain squatter had taken over the name the moment the domain expired, that would be funny. Giving them 7 weeks is just ... well, sad.

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  7. Also human by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone on Slashdot who gets smugly superior about this and how "stupid companies are" is just being a hypocrite. We have ALL forgotten things in our lives. We've all forgotten an event we were supposed to be at, a bill we were supposed to pay, something we were supposed to bring with us. It happens.

    What's more, everyone has been in a situation where something didn't happen because they, and everyone else, assumed someone else was going to deal with it. You don't go and check on everything that ever happens around you or involving you, you mentally categorize things you are and are not responsible for and ignore the latter.

    So ya, companies, which are made up of people, can fuck up too. It's amusing, but perfectly normal.

    1. Re:Also human by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thats why you build in redundancies.

      Companies are STUPID because they've gotten hooked on the idea of "employee efficiency" to the point that employee efficiency is being negatively impacted. In the past, when a mistake was made, you could easily nail multiple employees simply because they were supposed to be watching/covering one another. If one (or more) screwed up, it meant the others weren't doing their job so they all got punished. It cost a lot more in payroll, but it made sure the job got done, on time, correctly (as far as procedures were concerned). Nowadays, GM can't even find ANYONE to pin the blame on for the ignition switch recalls.

      So yeah, companies can fuck up too. But when you can't even find someone within the company you can point to say "that person is the one who fucked up", what does that say about the company?

  8. Re:An "unread email address"?? by scsirob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Must have been "support@sony.com"

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  9. As we suspected by HangingChad · · Score: 4, Funny

    SOE's president, John Smedley, has admitted that the expiration notices were being sent to an "unread email" address.

    The same one used for customer service inquiries.

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  10. Happens all the time... by RoloDMonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have been doing web work for a decade, and I can tell you this happens all the time. In fact, older employees in marketing have told me horror stories about 800 numbers and mailing addresses that were never set up, misprinted, or never updated.

    I always tell clients that they should set up emails that describe the job/function, like marketing@example.com and webmaster@example.com, and make sure that those emails go to a distribution list that goes to at least two people.

    You wouldn't believe how often critical accounts and webforms are only accessible with the email addresses of Sally the Secretary or William the Webmaster. When they leave, no one knows there is a problem, until it is a big problem.

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