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EA Tests Subscription Access To Game Catalog

An anonymous reader writes: Electronic Arts has announced a new program called "EA Access," a subscription-based service that will grant Xbox One users access to a small catalog of EA's popular games, as well as early trials of upcoming games. They're beta testing the service now, and the available games are FIFA 14, Madden NFL 25, Peggle 2, and Battlefield 4. (More titles will be added later.) They're charging $5 per month or $30 per year. It probably won't ever include their newest releases, but it's interesting to see such a major publisher experimenting with a Netflix-style subscription service.

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  1. "small catalog" and "subscription" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    no guarantee that

    a) the game you want will be available,
    2) the game you want will EVER be available
    3) the game you do play remains available for the duration of your subscription
    4) the rate you pay today will at least somewhat resemble the rate you pay tomorrow.

    1. Re:"small catalog" and "subscription" by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      While I'm not a fan of "yet another low, low monthly fee," $5 seems well within the boundaries of reasonable, even if it's for an ever-changing catalog of games.

      I already use Gamefly, and to some extent, this provides a similar service, for less money -- albeit for a smaller selection of titles.

      Games for Gold currently satisfies my need to play a game for a tiny bit and then throw it aside, but this provides another option.

    2. Re:"small catalog" and "subscription" by Bugamn · · Score: 1

      For me, those $5 monthly will buy a better and more varied collection without the subscription problem. The games may be older, but the listed titles really don't interest me.

    3. Re:"small catalog" and "subscription" by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      At first i was thinking "Hey, I like playing the games I like to play, not just for a little while, what about my saves?", but then I noticed it's EA, their games are available for a year or two anyway before the server you have to connect to (for solo play too) goes offline in favor of their latest installation of the same game you get to pay full price for.

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    4. Re:"small catalog" and "subscription" by Frobnicator · · Score: 1

      There are quite a few games from their back catalog of acquired games I would love to play again. Remember that EA has bought a long list of companies and products.

      It is terribly unlikely that most of the games will be brought back (which is a shame) but potential is there. They added a few to Good Old Games but most of them have problems or require dosbox or have multiplayer disabled.

      My short list:

      * Wing Commander series, including Privateer (some already on GoG, but buggy on some systems)
      * Ultima series (already on GoG but buggy on some systems)
      * Populus series, with LAN multiplayer
      * Old Dune and old C&C games that allowed LAN multiplayer
      * The Neverhood

      My long list would include a considerable number of games that are not on GoG and have not been updated to run on newer platforms. For that cost and a catalog including updates or even patched current versions of those games, it would be worth it to me.

      I fear it will just be games that have the full version still available at a reduced cost, and become more of a games preview service. But hey, maybe they will get this one right.

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    5. Re:"small catalog" and "subscription" by hairyfeet · · Score: 1
      The problem is this....EA is known for killing MP as soon as a title leaves top tier, usually within a year or two max. this means these games will be "pre-crippled" so that half the fun of a sports title, kicking your friend's ass, will already be removed.

      Still for those that made the mistake of buying an Xbone that might be a good deal. For us PC gamers that 30 bucks a year would get you a dozen or more games from the Humble Bundles or Steam sales we could keep forever, of course the guys into EA sports will already have the latest Madden so won't care and...wait who is this supposed to appeal to anyway? Sports guys will already have the sports games,shooter guys generally don't play sports and have the latest shooters (because the MP dies the second a new one comes out), I'm sensing a case of "here is some old shit we can't sell so what do we do with it?" fail coming on.

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    6. Re:"small catalog" and "subscription" by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      GoG customer, are you?

    7. Re:"small catalog" and "subscription" by Bugamn · · Score: 1

      That and Humble Bundle.

  2. You must be kidding. by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sign up to give EA money on a subscription basis? There is nothing in the world that will make me authorize them to charge my account at will. EA has established itself as a company that views customers as the enemy.

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    1. Re:You must be kidding. by Sandman1971 · · Score: 1

      Go to any store that sells cards, you'll likely find an Xbox Live card (not the sub, but money, like an iTunes card). Log in (either via console or Xbox Live website), redeem card. Use those credits to pay for the sub. Problem solved!

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    2. Re:You must be kidding. by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 1

      I agree, that does appear to solve the problem. If I want to play any of the games they're offering on a DRM basis, that's the way I will do it.

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    3. Re:You must be kidding. by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 1

      I see. So, people are stupid, and therefore it's right for EA and Microsoft to resurrect their cancelled non-virtual credit cards from the dead and continue to charge against them? I'm aware that I'm putting words into your mouth, but turnabout's fair. I think your friends and family's foolishnesses are darling, too.

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    4. Re:You must be kidding. by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      A lot of people are stupid, sure.

      Most big banks offer virtual card services. Google Wallet does too. If your bank doesn't, plenty of prepaid options make for safer online shopping.

      I think EA and Microsoft should do their best to charge customers whatever their customers voluntarily agreed to, by whatever the cardholder agreement says. If they're breaking the cardholder agreement, they should be held responsible.

    5. Re:You must be kidding. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Yes. I've set up alarms on all of my accounts, so that if it sees any payment to "EA", it knows that someone has hacked my accounts, because I will not knowingly give that company my money.

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    6. Re:You must be kidding. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Well, it's still your money going into EA coffers.

      If you really see them as a company that sees its customers as the enemy, you won't want to be enriching them in any way.

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    7. Re:You must be kidding. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      I think EA and Microsoft should do their best to charge customers whatever their customers voluntarily agreed to

      "Do their best"? That assumes any overcharges are accidental. You're giving those companies way too much credit.

      What was the last time you heard of EA or Microsoft undercharging someone by accident?

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    8. Re:You must be kidding. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Personally I think it's cute people think that "it's online" makes much of a difference...

      Well, it's not so cute anymore when it comes to laws, but aside of that...

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    9. Re:You must be kidding. by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      EA has established itself as a company that views customers as the enemy.

      You normally respect or are wary of an enemy...
      If you don't, they are already your chattel or your victim...

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    10. Re:You must be kidding. by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 1

      EA has established itself as a company that views customers as the enemy.

      You normally respect or are wary of an enemy...
        If you don't, they are already your chattel or your victim...

      Wait a minute...are you saying we can eat EA? What does EA taste like? This sounds like a good plan, and is making me hungry.

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    11. Re:You must be kidding. by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      I think it's adorable that you believe you can't.

      I touch my NFC enabled phone to a number of physical card readers, each time generating a virtual number...

    12. Re:You must be kidding. by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      No, I'm saying EA feels that way about us. They don't see us as an enemy, they see us as something they own and can do with as they please... As to the eating thing, did you think I meant "cattle" instead of chattel? Cattle can be chattel, but chattel is not restricted to cattle...

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    13. Re:You must be kidding. by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 1

      Ah. Now I'm with you. I had the pronoun "they" in what you said referring to customers and not EA, and I did see chattel as cattle. Anyway, I found something to eat since then. I agree. They see us as their chattel, and that's why it's highly unlikely that I would ever buy anything from them. Take a look at this sampling of the crap they are planting on Gamefaqs: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards....

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  3. Oh they can sell you newest games on a sub by thieh · · Score: 1

    Just expect them to charge you extra for new releases or something. There is nothing that says the prices will be fixed.

    1. Re:Oh they can sell you newest games on a sub by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Limited catalogue all with pay extra for downloadable content, which them becomes worthless if you stop paying the subscription mwah hah hah. You can bet that will be the way psychopath executives will think.

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    2. Re:Oh they can sell you newest games on a sub by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Is Madden still a good game year after year? I stopped playing them back in the '70s (I think), so I really don't know.

      Is it like fantasy football, or is it more of a twitch controller game where you have to learn combinations and everything and there's quick time events?

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    3. Re:Oh they can sell you newest games on a sub by N1AK · · Score: 1

      I stopped playing them back in the '70s (I think), so I really don't know.

      First Madden was released in 1988 so either you've got a time machine or whatever you were actually doing in the 70s has fucked your memory ;)

  4. Cautiously optimistic by Sandman1971 · · Score: 1

    I'm cautiously optimistic about this news. I'm just a casual game. I suspect that the vault will contain games that are 8-10 months old or older and have negligible sales. I don't mind paying 30$ a year to play older games. What this will do is eat into the secondary used game market (Gamestop, EB Games, Future Shop, etc..) as it will be cheaper to rent these older games than to buy even one used game, putting money in EAs pockets instead of these types of stores.

    This being EA however, I wouldn't be surprised to see something like online multiplayer being a paid for DLC or something crazy like that, but time will tell.
    The fine print also states that they can drop games from the vault at any time, so you can be SOL if you're in the middle of completing a game and that game is pulled. And the fine print also makes it very clear that this is a rental service. Stop paying for your sub and you lose access to the games that you downloaded.

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    1. Re:Cautiously optimistic by N1AK · · Score: 1

      The fact it's a rental service and they make that clear isn't an issue. Clearly some people don't want that, which is fine. Personally I like the subscription model. Both Spotify and Netflix work for me, and at $5 a month I'd consider a games rental subscription. I would however be interested to see how they handle DLC etc and just how much of their newer library they put online.

      Sure I wouldn't 'own' anything but then all the music I bought on tape isn't exactly useful, nor are VHS videos etc. I don't care if I still 'own' BF4 in 10 years time when I likely wouldn't have a console to play it on and the servers it needs were turned off.

  5. Re:wow.. by mythosaz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As much as I've already posted my support for this idea, there's no friggin' way Madden.Current will be available at launch for $30/year for year after year.

    Madden fans are a slam dunk lock for $70/year.

  6. Thank god I have a PS4 by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

    All I want is Sims 4 that works standalone, Standalone Complex that works in doll mode, and Second Son: inFamous that works in Grey Hat mode.

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  7. I thought the Battlefield series by un1nsp1red · · Score: 1

    ... was already subscription based? :p

    1. Re:I thought the Battlefield series by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Pretty much their whole catalog is already sub based. But considering you pay like 50-70 per game and year today...

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  8. Subscription and small catalog don't go together by iamacat · · Score: 1

    I would consider buying a bundle outright, but I don't see for whom this is going to make sense. The whole point of Netflix is that you can continuously watch new movies and don't have to buy many from other sources. Here I will only like a portion of already small catalog and will still need to keep buying non-EA games. This kind of offering should really be done by Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft with games from many publishers.

  9. Capitalism by advantis · · Score: 1

    When you can't make new stuff anymore, rent out what you have accumulated. Money has to circulate or it's pointless. This isn't criticism (just look how "well" the alternatives went). It's an observation. I'm sure somebody smarter than me wrote a book on the topic at least a century ago :) but rent, subscriptions and planned obsolescence are pretty much the same thing. Services (as opposed to manufacturing) are probably in the same ballpark. With everything pretty much already invented, we need _something_ to churn all that cash which is our sole reason to live :)

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  10. I like it better the first time by Vermonter · · Score: 1

    I like this better when it was called Sega Channel

  11. Always online by phorm · · Score: 1

    Given the "always online" nature of most games, it's pretty much an expensive subscription model anyhow, and per-game at that!
    Seriously, when they decide to cut the servers from [favorite game X] in favour of their latest incarnation, then your game is fairly worthless, and it likely cost more than a $30/year subscription.

    That said, it's EA. I'm sure they'll find a way to make this equally awful, if not more.

  12. Re:I favor a new kind of micropayment system. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    2-3 dollars an hour is interesting at best for people who play games with zero replay value and no long term ...

    Ok, it would actually be a steal for contemporary games.

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  13. The cycle by ledow · · Score: 1

    "You can buy our products individually"
    "You can subscribe to all our products for one fee"
    "You can buy our special title by subscribing and paying a premium for that one title"
    "You can buy our products individually"

    Sorry. I don't "subscribe". The value of it rarely lasts long enough to be of any value at all to me.

    Magazines? They tend to repeat themselves after a year, then you realise that all the "new" stuff, you now know where to find out. (Did this for PC magazines, Linux magazines, Astronomy magazines, even New Scientist is ludicrously expensive for what it is).

    Movies? You get all of the crap, nothing that you actually want. I did the test subscription to Amazon Prime Instant Video. 30 days of "free" movies. We watched 4. Stopped one within ten minutes. Spent HOURS looking through what they had. All the interesting ones were "not included" so you had to buy them anyway. The subscription didn't make it out of the trial period. Was the same back when video rental was the thing - the good movie that you'd been waiting for was unavailable or more expensive, all you could book out was the dross you'd seen a hundred times.

    Games? I have Steam. But I don't have a single subscription game. There are even Steam games that I regularly plug money into for DLC and extras, and I have my own personal "monthly Steam allowance". To be honest, not one of the subscription games (or software) have I even looked at past the word "subscription". Nope, never played WoW either. Sorry, but I invest enough back into games I play (by running servers, helping out on the forums, bug-fixing, or buying DLC / extra copies for friends), I'm not paying every month "just because".

    I tried OnLive, mostly to prove that it wasn't a sustainable business model to be honest. I played a full-price game on there for free, then went and bought it cheaper elsewhere. The technology worked but was nowhere near the claims they made. And the "lifetime" (3 years only) pass to the game cost more than my buying it outright on Steam.

    I don't see any subscription as worthwhile. Once they have your first month of money, they can destroy the value of what you have overnight and you'll feel obliged to keep paying until renewal. It's just not worth it.

    If you want to subscribe to EA games, stick some money in a tin every month. Then when EA only have the same crap as usual, you can go elsewhere, and when you have a month without playing, you're under no obligation, still have your money and can play twice as much next month.

  14. Smells like Sega Channel by yorgo · · Score: 1

    This sounds a bit like Sega Channel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_Channel). I was one of the morons subscribers back in the day. Unfortunately, actual did not equal expected. I thought I'd have access to a lot of fun and popular games. In fact, they provided neither.

    This tastes the same.

  15. Re:See, I would have... by Hotawa+Hawk-eye · · Score: 1

    So when/if they extend this to PC, I predict the fee will be $5 per month or $30 per year for SecuROM versions or $500 per month or $3000 per year for non-SecuROM versions. That way they can say that they heard their customers and are offering non-DRM versions of their software. When no one subscribes for the more expensive service, they can drop it and claim "We tried, but no one wanted the non-DRM version! Back to DRM for us!"

  16. Sony turned this down by severn2j · · Score: 1

    I think its telling that Sony has decided to not provide this service. If they don't think its good value, then there must be something very wrong.. http://www.eurogamer.net/artic...

  17. Metaboli by Cederic · · Score: 1

    3-4 years ago I subscribed to Metaboli (http://www.metaboli.co.uk/ ) who offer a tiered subscription service.

    I got good value for money, and only really unsubscribed because I started building a good Steam library that grows as quickly as I can play the games.

    As people are predicting with EA the games aren't the latest/greatest versions, but they've been around for a few years now and they're still in business so it's clearly a sustainable model.

  18. Re: Old Dune and old C&C games by arminmarth · · Score: 1

    * Old Dune and old C&C games that allowed LAN multiplayer

    Just so you know, there's a multiplatform open source modern remake of the C&C engine with Dune, Tiberian Dawn & Red Alert supported called OpenRA . Westwood/EA released C&C and Red Alert as freeware (link has now disappeared) and OpenRA uses the original assets of the game with added functionality like better screen resolution support, multiplayer via Online TCP/IP and LAN with lobbies, and more.

  19. This isn't bad, just to try out some games by nhat11 · · Score: 1

    I'll like to play some BF4 with friends but I'm pretty casual and I'm not a huge FPS player so I don't play it often so I rather shell out $5 instead of 60 plus whatever expansion pack