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Opportunity Rover Sets Off-World Driving Record

schwit1 writes: "With a drive of 157 feet on Sunday, the Mars rover Opportunity broke the Soviet record, set by Lunokhod 2 in 1973, for the longest distance traveled by a vehicle on another planet. "If the rover can continue to operate the distance of a marathon — 26.2 miles (about 42.2 kilometers) — it will approach the next major investigation site mission scientists have dubbed "Marathon Valley." Observations from spacecraft orbiting Mars suggest several clay minerals are exposed close together at this valley site, surrounded by steep slopes where the relationships among different layers may be evident. The Russian Lunokhod 2 rover, a successor to the first Lunokhod mission in 1970, landed on Earth's moon on Jan. 15, 1973, where it drove about 24.2 miles (39 kilometers) in less than five months, according to calculations recently made using images from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) cameras that reveal Lunokhod 2's tracks."

46 comments

  1. planet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The moon is not another planet. The JPL site has the correct information.

    1. Re:planet by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

      The moon is not another planet. The JPL site has the correct information.

      The headline has the correct phrasing: the rover has set the off-world driving record.

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    2. Re:planet by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      Actually, it should be the off-world driving record for vehicles originating from earth.

    3. Re:planet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the award for Biggest Douche in the Universe goes tooooooooo....

  2. If they won't count Pluto as a Planet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, screw that! I learned Pluto was a planet, and I'll never change my mind, the same with Siam, Burma, and the Kingdom of the Jutes!

    1. Re:If they won't count Pluto as a Planet... by rossdee · · Score: 1

      The difference is that the people or government of a country do have the right to change the name of the place they live.

      The IAU doesn't live on Pluto, so screw them, we can still call it a planet.

    2. Re:If they won't count Pluto as a Planet... by flargleblarg · · Score: 1

      Pluto is a planet. It's a dwarf planet.

  3. Poor pluto by lakeland · · Score: 5, Funny

    First it lost its planetary status, and now the moon is classed as a planet for this competition.

    1. Re:Poor pluto by Tablizer · · Score: 2

      They probably used "heavenly body" at first, but editors realized that would generate too many tasteless jokes, and changed it to "planet".

    2. Re:Poor pluto by IrquiM · · Score: 1

      Well... The diametre of the moon is almost 50% larger than the diametre of Pluto...

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    3. Re:Poor pluto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The word planet change is meaning during time. The moon was a planet for the anciant greeks and others civilizations.

    4. Re:Poor pluto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would assume that editors read the summaries. With your user id, you HAVE to know that isn't the case.

    5. Re:Poor pluto by hawkfish · · Score: 1

      That would assume that editors read the summaries. With your user id, you HAVE to know that isn't the case.

      Even worse, when have the editors ever been concerned about inadvertently triggering tasteless jokes?

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    6. Re:Poor pluto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not about the diameter, it's what you do with it.

  4. Re:too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What "space ability" would you like?

  5. So, 40 years and beeelions spent.. by coffecup · · Score: 1

    and we broke one record... that was set by the soviets.. maybe we should be backing the north korean space program instead?

    1. Re:So, 40 years and beeelions spent.. by Brett+Buck · · Score: 2

      Lunakhod was only on the moon, and was driven at relatively high speeds using live drivers looking at TV to see where to go. This is patently impossibly on Mars due to the light travel time. Semi-autononomous navigation is far more sophisticated.

          It eventually died because of what might be characterized as a driving mistake, they came to close to the edge of a crater, scooped some dust on the solar array, then closed the lid, dumped the dust on the radiators, then overheated when the lid was opened on the next lunar day.

    2. Re:So, 40 years and beeelions spent.. by Ken_g6 · · Score: 1

      The moon is much closer to Earth than Mars. It's so close that we can pilot vehicles on the moon manually, like an RC car, with just a two-second delay. Vehicles on Mars need to be a lot smarter.

      That said, Opportunity is really slow. Its top speed is 50 mm/s, or .1 MPH. I think Curiosity is actually slower. Maybe one of these private space ventures like Elon Musk's SpaceX can send up a fast (minimum 5 MPH or 2,200 mm/s) rover that just drives and takes pretty pictures.

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    3. Re:So, 40 years and beeelions spent.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Did the wheels fall off like they do when you drive into a crater in Moon Patrol?

    4. Re:So, 40 years and beeelions spent.. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Lunakhod was only on the moon, and was driven at relatively high speeds using live drivers looking at TV to see where to go.

      Interesting trivia: At first the Soviets tried to use experienced drivers. But even to the moon and back is several light seconds, and this lag confused people experienced in driving cars. So they had to find people that had never driven before, with no expectations that the vehicle would respond instantly.

    5. Re:So, 40 years and beeelions spent.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lunakhod was only on the moon, and was driven at relatively high speeds using live drivers looking at TV to see where to go. This is patently impossibly on Mars due to the light travel time. Semi-autononomous navigation is far more sophisticated.

      So what you are saying is that it fits into Guinness book of records together with the Superbowl winners, the person that can fit the most matches in his nostrils and every other person that is best at something because no-one else tries to compete.

  6. Re:too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Launch ability would be nice.

  7. It's only gone 25 miles? by unrtst · · Score: 2

    I realize it's done much more than it was designed for, and we got more bang for our buck, but when I first read TFS, I thought this:

    "If the rover can continue to operate the distance of a marathon — 26.2 miles (about 42.2 kilometers) — it will approach the next major investigation site mission

    ...meant, "If the rover can travel just 26.2 MORE miles THAN IT ALREADY HAS TRAVELED, then..."

    It's been on Mars for over 10 years. It's not a very fast little bugger, is it?

    They had their own goals and all that, but my first goal, if I was sending something millions of miles away (I don't know how far it traveled when it went to Mars, but the closest approach between earth and mars has been 34.8 million miles), I'd certainly want the ability to move it more than XXX feet per day. 25 miles is REALLY short compared to it's 35 million+ mile trip to get there!

    1. Re:It's only gone 25 miles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, ah, how far did the rover travel (on the journey to mars) where it had a chance of being bogged down in sand?

      0 miles.

    2. Re:It's only gone 25 miles? by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They had their own goals and all that, but my first goal, if I was sending something millions of miles away (I don't know how far it traveled when it went to Mars, but the closest approach between earth and mars has been 34.8 million miles), I'd certainly want the ability to move it more than XXX feet per day.

      And a free pony, but the problem is the power budget. Going faster -> more power required -> bigger solar panels -> more weight -> going slower. If you got a solution for that, I'm sure NASA would like to have a talk with you. Also consider that it might be very hard to travel a significant distance, it's easier to drop two rovers on opposite sides of the planet than design a rover that can drive 5000+ km.

      Mars has areas with really sharp rocks and Curiosity has already taken more wheel damage than expected. Soft soil is almost just as bad, potentially trapping the rover as it happened with Opportunity. And there's no tow truck coming, so if you screw it up the mission is over. Personally I imagine it's the scientific equipment that mostly limits the rover, if we haven't got the tools or sensors getting there faster won't do us any good.

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    3. Re:It's only gone 25 miles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They had their own goals and all that, but my first goal, if I was sending something millions of miles away (I don't know how far it traveled when it went to Mars, but the closest approach between earth and mars has been 34.8 million miles), I'd certainly want the ability to move it more than XXX feet per day. 25 miles is REALLY short compared to it's 35 million+ mile trip to get there!

      If I was sending something 250,000 miles away (3 light seconds for a human controller and 3 days travel time) I'd want it to go fast. If I fuck up, I build another and launch it on next month's lander.

      If I was sending something to Mars (too far away for a human controller, so I just wasted another 20 years waiting for computers to catch up to the point that we could build an autonomous vehicle, and about 6 months' to two years' travel time), I'd want to make very sure that I don't fuck up, because it's unlikely I'll get a chance to launch another one in my lifetime.

    4. Re:It's only gone 25 miles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also steering it around obstacles is a bitch. Try driving your car when you don't know what happened for 10-20 minutes every time you make a correction.

    5. Re:It's only gone 25 miles? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I was sending something to Mars (too far away for a human controller, so I just wasted another 20 years waiting for computers to catch up to the point that we could build an autonomous vehicle

      I fusion power is any indication your grandchildren will have died of old age before 20 years have passed.

      You can't wait for better technology, better technology is created when you actually try to do stuff.

    6. Re:It's only gone 25 miles? by unrtst · · Score: 1

      ...but the problem is the power budget. Going faster -> more power required -> bigger solar panels -> more weight -> going slower.

      Or the problem is the financial budget (more money -> send more stuff -> include more features/stuff -> going faster and doing more).

      FWIW, I totally understand that certain design decisions were made for various, and well justified, reasons. Personally, I'd favor the ability to travel long distances over some of the other features (ex. have it nuke powered, and ignore the issue of contamination of Mars). I'd also love to see more stuff sent there, and to other celestial bodies, like maybe a deep drilling device, or excavation equipment.

      Anyway... I had just assumed (poorly) that it had wheeled around more than an average of 36 feet a day, or had a top speed better than 0.1mph. It's still an amazing little rover (already survived more than 40x's longer than planned).

  8. Apollo 11 by Circlotron · · Score: 1

    "using images from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) cameras that reveal Lunokhod 2's tracks." -------------------- So they can photograph wheel tracks on the moons surface? It should then be a snap (pun intended) to take a pic of the Apollo 11 landing site and put that conspiracy to rest once and for all.

    1. Re:Apollo 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, it's been done. Several of the Apollo landing sites have been recently photographed from lunar orbit.
      See here for Apollo 11: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11#mediaviewer/File:Apollo11-LRO-March2012.jpg

    2. Re:Apollo 11 by Brett+Buck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are kidding, right?

      http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pa...

      And of course the "moon landing hoax" nitwits have already convinced themselves that NASA, every involved contractor, all the astronauts, and our bitter rivals the USSR are part of the conspiracy. It would be a small matter to assume that the LRO pictures are also faked. That the fundamental nature of stupidity.

    3. Re:Apollo 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And here the most recent images of Apollo 12 and Apollo 17.

    4. Re:Apollo 11 by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      Of course they're not faked. NASA just went to the trouble of sending up an empty, autonomous LM and a remote-controlled moon rover. Checkmate, astronauts.

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    5. Re:Apollo 11 by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 1

      So they can photograph wheel tracks on the moons surface? It should then be a snap (pun intended) to take a pic of the Apollo 11 landing site and put that conspiracy to rest once and for all.

      Uh, you think that people will believe that the entire moon landing program was faked, a hoax going on from 1968 (Apollo 8) through 1972 (Apollo 17), with tens of thousands of photographs, live television, and movies; with hundreds of thousands of people involved, and watched in minute detail by a hostile superpower (the USSR) that was ready to devote its entire resources to discrediting America... but you think these same people would instantly believe a photograph from Lunar Reconaissance Orbiter, because satellite photos can't be faked?

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    6. Re:Apollo 11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And of course the "moon landing hoax" nitwits have already convinced themselves that NASA, every involved contractor, all the astronauts, and our bitter rivals the USSR are part of the conspiracy. It would be a small matter to assume that the LRO pictures are also faked. That the fundamental nature of stupidity.

      The last person I recall who "questioned" the moon landing was in real life and only if provoked. Why bring the issue up if nobody is pressing the issue? Who is the nitwit, you or the GP?

      The same thing is true of the 6000 year-old Earth. I read hundreds of jokes about people believing that yet have never met one nor do I recall any advocacy of that position online (nor do I need links to timecube-style advocates of the same - I don't doubt the position exists, I doubt substantial or significant advocacy of it exists).

      Is there something about the illiberal elite that requires permanent strawmen to knock down? It's like discussion practice instead of actual discussion.

      If somebody seriously raises the issue, deal with it then.

  9. Re:too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    SpaceX = catastrophic failure every mission.

    You keep using that word...

  10. When asked for a reaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Opportunity was heard saying, "are we there yet?"

  11. Curiousity by Max_W · · Score: 1

    I would expect that the Curiosity with the nuclear power source would blow out of the water all other rovers.

    Is it wheels' design that slows Curiosity?

    1. Re:Curiousity by smaddox · · Score: 1

      I'm not an expert in this field, but my understanding is that radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTG) don't provide a whole lot of power. They do, however provide just as much at night, and after the rover is coated in sand. The wikipedia article says that they typically provide a few hundred Watts (or less).

      Solar cells don't have great power density compared to other sources on Earth, but they aren't all that bad. For a Mars mission, they likely use ~30% efficient GaAs-based solar cells (at the worst). It looks like the daily average solar irradiance on Mars is at best ~250 W/m^2, with an average closer to ~100 W/m^2, which is fairly similar to Earth (less atmosphere, and all that jazz). So 30% of 100 W is 30 W (assuming ~1 m^2 of solar panels). So depending on the size of the RTG, they might provide a ~10x improvement in daily average power, which is pretty good. However, solar cells should still be a pretty weight efficient power source on Mars, especially if you're willing to go into standby mode at night to minimize battery weight.

  12. Time for some GPS technology by cjjjer · · Score: 1

    I am no scientist but since we want to send more rovers to Mars as well possibly have people there; setting up a network of GPS satellites might be the real next step.

  13. Poor Spirit by antdude · · Score: 1

    Also, Rover's twin brother/si(ster/bbling). It never got far. :(

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  14. Two world records by LongearedBat · · Score: 1

    How about that? Breaking the same record on two worlds simultaneously. Now that's what I call "breaking two world records".

    (Never mind that one of them is a actually moon. Close enough.)

  15. Wow, so we're only 50 years behind... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If we just now broke the record, then just think if Russia wanted to re-break it - they'd have driven 2000 miles in 3 months today if they had to.