Unboxing a Cray XC30 'Magnus' Petaflops Supercomputer

A picture is worth a thousand words? by eric31415927 · 2014-07-31 23:18 · Score: 1

Where's the story?

Re:A picture is worth a thousand words? by bigwheel · 2014-08-01 00:10 · Score: 2

Here' some info. Not a lot, but better than a picture of a couple wooden boxes. http://www.ivec.org/pawsey-sup...
Re:A picture is worth a thousand words? by Pascoea · 2014-08-01 01:23 · Score: 2

A picture is worth a thousand words?
And 12 pictures spread across 12 pages that force a complete reload between every one of them is worth three words. "Fuck you guys" comes to mind.
Dammin that "article" was painful.

How come it says Xbox on one cabinet? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-31 23:32 · Score: 1

Oh, come on now, tell me you didn't take a second look at the pics when you saw that comment subject! How many actually went back and looked to see if one of the cabinets really did say "Xbox"?

Bitcoin! by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-31 23:37 · Score: 2, Funny

I wonder how many bitcoins you can mine with it.

Re:Will it run DOSBox and Doom? by jandersen · 2014-07-31 23:39 · Score: 4, Insightful

Not necessarily - the '...FLOPS' refers to FLOating Point Operations Per Second, and the hardware necessary to deal with this might conceivably not have the kind of processing capacity necessary for running DOS or Doom. It's like asking whether an aircraft carrier can sing you child to sleep; lots of power is not always relevant.

Ode to past: "Imagine a Beowolf..." by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-31 23:45 · Score: 1

Old timers...how many here could remember a time when "imagine a Beowolf cluster of these machines" would have been a "normal" post on /.

Old School by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-31 23:46 · Score: 1

That's what I like to see, a computer taking a whole room like in the old days!

It's too bad that punk 'iVec' had to tag it with graffiti!

Re:Old School by sillybilly · 2014-08-01 00:38 · Score: 1

Just in case, I'll repeat the movie "Screamers" from 1996, that goes along this military intelligent robots automation design topic. And it's not a joke, it may seem like surreal and funny, but it's very serious stuff. The miracles of science and technology can create some really jawdropping stuff, but nothing as jaw dropping as the stuff created in that movie, so far.
Re:Old School by sillybilly · 2014-08-01 00:56 · Score: 1

Anybody in charge of handling nukes, or launching them knows the extreme danger they are tinkering with. I don't think the AI researchers minds are permeated by the same mindset, and if anything, handling a nuke or a nuke launch system is comparatively a piece of cake, a whole lot less dangerous than handling one of these supercomputer machines. They should mandate by law for every person that works with it to watch that movie "Screamers," just so that they are aware, and whoever works with it needs total psychological and security clearance, just like the people that work with nukes. You wouldn't want some egomaniac or one with charged with an agenda (such as greenpeace, vegetarian, any kinds of rights activist, i.e. anybody off the standard beaten path,) to tinker with one of these things, and in fact there is no guarantee that even people who seem completely sane, live normal lives, have families, 30 year careers, go to church, don't turn up like that bank president who after like 30 years he walked out with a few million dollars from his bank, in plain view in front of the camera, not even trying to disguise himself, left a wife, kids, and a community behind, and who knows what he did with that money, go to some Caribbean island and have fun watching young women in bikinis stroll before him on a beach sipping champagne? Some people's idea of fun is distorted like that, but it is usually an issue of ego, and in that, self interest, as opposed to religious people, who learned how to beat their self interest down, and aim for the collective self interest, but even that can turn into some racist stuff, like the God of my people vs. the God of your people, I'm a jealous God, say my God, and I'll blow you up over my God, my externalized ego, of my people, being greater than yours. Of course there has to be a balance between self interest and collective interest, as represented by the case of a cuckold fetish dude, at which everyone with common sense laughs at. On the other hand, male lions, when taking over a pride after a victorious fight, the first thing they do is kill all the pups that they can smell are not theirs, to bring the females into heat and have their own off-springs. That's what happens, speciest, racist, clanist stuff. Male lions are definitely not cuckolds, but they understand the concept of a social hierarchy too. So in all this, we humans have religion to help, to balance things out. So to speak. But even the Holy Quran complains how "they" (as in Allah speaks in the plural a lot in it) have never told the Christians to become monks, nuns and virgins, that was a human invention, not a divine one, as reproduction and propagation of life "they" consider holy. Yet all great religions in the world created monks, or monk-like off the social chart people, as a social , non-self-interest but community-interest driven individuals.
Re:Old School by sillybilly · 2014-08-01 00:59 · Score: 1

I think we still got at least another 50-200 years to go before we match the computing power of a cheap human cranium, which has got to be way more than a terraflop. Next wonder of biotechnology: reworking a human brain - or more like a monkey brain that has no ethical issues - to efficiently compute floating point results that can be directly displayed on an LCD, instead of analyze visual signals.
Re:Old School by sillybilly · 2014-08-01 01:12 · Score: 1

Then there'll be these secret places where people or monkeys with a lot of terraflops are bred in a dish, without having any fathers and mothers, are born and get eyes and ears excised so they don't develop normal sensory processing and world awareness (or they can even be genetic engineered and propagated like that, not to have eyes and ears, or even skin touch and taste and smell senses), so their whole brain capacity is available for some non-sensory, non-world-around-you-awareness-and-modeling computing task, and some fiber optic interconnect links like a hundred of them in a room, all being hooked up like hospital coma patients to a perfusion feed, and some automated excrement system that sucks the poop out of their butt automatically, and this "Beowulf cluster" of monkey brains (or human brains if they are sure not to get caught, because they get better bang per buck out of a human brain, per calorie of food invested - not necessarily, and chimp short term memory is proven to be better than a human's, so it depends on the task at hand) would be able to mine a whole lot of bitcoins very cheaply. Why worry about miniaturization, dust-free atmosphere chip foundries that cost near a trillion dollars, when life can miniaturize and create a supercomputing brain, in the middle of a dusty, putrefied swampy mud. The far future of computing, and even AI is biotech, or biotech-like miniaturizing self automation machines, and whether this bio-computer is a DNA based organic brain, or a silicon-chip based self constructing metal/silicon machine, only the future will tell.
Re:Old School by sillybilly · 2014-08-01 01:19 · Score: 2

I for one, love my little HP Mini 210 Laptop with a 5 W Intel Atom chipset and 9 hr battery life, and way more than sufficient computing power as far as I'm concerned, and all the recent creations on the web, such as semi-infinite-loop javascript webpages trying to tell me to upgrade, they can go stick their javascript where the Sun don't shine, because I think I have way too much computing power as it is, not too little, more than sufficient for my needs, only it's used incorrectly by shitty software, and we have a clash of mentality on this topic, and I beg to differ with them.
Re:Old School by sillybilly · 2014-08-01 02:52 · Score: 1

I don't need more computing power, or cheaper computing. What I have is enough, what I need is software that's more efficient. Heck even MS Office 97sp2 is more efficient than all the office version starting from Office 2002 they throw at me today, has better features, it's faster and less bloated and smaller in size. My real issues, when I look at my costs are: housing and transportation. Healthcare I try not to mess with, and it's a fight against constant deliberate infection. So to drop the housing cost, please build rotating space stations that can fit a trillion people, because if you justify the high demand and low supply of housing because we have 7 billion people, that's not my fault, I'm not contributing to overpopulation, so don't torture me over it please. And as far as gas goes, create safe nuclear power plants that make a lot of ammonia, and fuel cell cars based on that. Ban all nuclear bombs on the planet, and build nuclear power plants for cheap energy. You can also cut the natural gas and water bills with cheap energy. I don't want yet another tax, like carbon tax, and yet another expense, like mandatory Obamacare, if anything I want less tax, such as no local income tax, and very low property tax, and no mandatory insurance for driving. I already lost the battle on how much I deserve for the work I do, I'm not special, and minimum wage is an extreme luxury, when you look at what kind of miracles it can buy, like a 320 GB portable hard disk for $30. Minimum wage is extreme luxury. What's bullshit is the sky high mandatory existence-fee like expenses. Please don't destroy my house because you think it's not luxurious enough to my needs, based on your building code luxury standards. My definition of luxury is dough sitting in the bank, and high income to basic, mandatory expense ratio, of at least 10-20 (which is achievable with minimum wage if you can get a CAUV tax of $22/year on a small farm, which comes out to $1.83/month housing cost that's mandatory, plus the mobile home property tax if it has the wheels removed and it becomes a fixture, not a movable item, so you can avoid even the $60/year mobile home tax, an then housing cost items that you can do yourself, like maintenance, such as tarp over a leaky roof. So now from focusing on housing sucking the living life out of everybody, they try to flip it to health care, and I'm fighting tooth and nail not to go to the hospital again, and I know the hospital won't help me, because they don't do what you ask as a customer, please help me with a throat infection, they shine a flashlight in your throat and say I can't see anything, you must be hallucinating, and send you to the nut house. That's bullshit, that's like I take my car in for an oil change, and they say the oil is fine, but we replaced the transmission for you, against your will, and here is the bill. Like we knock your house down, against your will, so you can't live in it, and here is the bill, and if you don't pay it, we'll put a foreclosure on your credit, and no, the land bank don't accept donations of lots without a house on it, we want to first send you to foreclosure over it and the land bank gets it anyway, because nobody's bidding at the sheriff sale. And as far as justifying the high cost of lawnmowing, don't fucking do it. Even if you paid me $20 to have me let you cut my grass, I'd say no, because I love weed and bugs that much. If you offered 2000 each time, I'd say sorry bugs, you gotta find another place to live. But I prefer my grass uncut, let alone wasting money I don't have in the first place on it. Beauty is a natural flower, a rough weed that can exist on its own, without external help like welfare support, and there is a bug on its petals, living the same way, wild, free, unlike the artificial plants that require constant welfare support to make it. And a green lot without any flowers is a green desert to me. What happened to the bugs, these marvelous little creatures? Yeah, some of them, like mosquitos, I slap, if I catch them, but most of them I have no problem with coexisting with me. I am happier in a world full of butterflies and beautiful bugs, than in a green desert suburban environment deprived of it.)

Art by Charliemopps · 2014-07-31 23:53 · Score: 4, Insightful

I do like the art. I'm not generally a fan of indigenous art. I grew up with a lot of native american kids and was forced to do tons of it for the pow-wows, school art projects and such. So I've an aversion to it now. It's kind of like growing up Scottish and hating bagpipes now because of it...

Anyways, what they did for those computers was well done and has a modern flavor. Good job!

Re:Art by jellomizer · 2014-08-01 01:02 · Score: 1

The Cray supercomputers use to look really impressive. Blinking Lights, Red Liquid coolant dripping down a glass/plexiglass enclosure. Even the Cray 1 with its round design, with benches made it look really cool.
Now it is just a bunch of Printed Plastic covers, on a set of square boxes.
For the cost, you might as well make it look really impressive.

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Re:Art by Anonymous Coward · 2014-08-01 04:35 · Score: 1

> For the cost, you might as well make it look really impressive.
It is precisely because of the cost that they don't make it look really impressive. It used to be that supercomputing was a high margin business and they could afford all the froo-froo. Beowulf killed that. Even when your machine isn't in competition with a cluster, the market is no longer as accepting of froo-froo.
Re:Art by Charliemopps · 2014-08-01 05:44 · Score: 1

You mean gaudy? Because that's what you're describing to me.

Ode to past: by Anonymous Coward · 2014-07-31 23:54 · Score: 1

And in Soviet Russia the Beowolf cluster imagines you...

Re:Ode to past: by Anonymous Coward · 2014-08-01 00:05 · Score: 1

And in Soviet Russia the Beowolf cluster imagines you...
That depends. Does it run Linux?
Re:Ode to past: by onepoint · 2014-08-01 01:46 · Score: 2

yes it does
http://www.cray.com/Products/C...
has it's own version I believe

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Re:Ode to past: by Artifakt · 2014-08-01 01:49 · Score: 1

You run Linux on dead badgers, not wolves.

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Re:Ode to past: by cstacy · 2014-08-01 03:57 · Score: 2

It's "Beowulf", not "Beowolf", you silly guys.
Bad Wolf
Re:Ode to past: by fahrbot-bot · 2014-08-01 05:31 · Score: 1

You run Linux on dead badgers, not wolves.
NetBSD actually runs on both.

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Re:Ode to past: by oldmac31310 · 2014-08-01 06:56 · Score: 1

Why not B.O. wolf?

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Re:missing youtube video by wonkey_monkey · 2014-07-31 23:55 · Score: 2

You forgot poorly-lit, hand-held, un-rehearsed, and with the phrase "So I'm just gonna go ahead and..." repeated several hundred times.

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DF by Thanshin · 2014-07-31 23:59 · Score: 1

It's so overpoweringly mighty it can run Dwarf Fortress on a 256x256 embark area at 2 FPS.

Re:DF by Mashiki · 2014-08-01 00:17 · Score: 2

You think that's impressive, it can actually hit 13FPS in Crysis.

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Re:Ode to past: "Imagine a Beowolf..." by Thanshin · 2014-08-01 00:02 · Score: 1

A.... Beowolf... ...

I've decided you mean a Philanthus Triangulum.

The alternative is too sad.

I remember when... by skovnymfe · 2014-08-01 00:06 · Score: 1

I remember when computers used to fill an entire football field! Now look at this, the powerhouse of the world, the biggest monstrosity on the scale, coming up at what, 8 racks?

Re:I remember when... by AJodock · 2014-08-01 02:32 · Score: 1

Just the biggest in the southern hemisphere. The biggest super computers in the northern half of the world still take up about football field sizes. (http://www.hpcwire.com/2013/06/02/full_details_uncovered_on_chinese_top_supercomputer/)
Re:I remember when... by skovnymfe · 2014-08-01 14:02 · Score: 1

Ah I must've overlooked that detail in my rage.

Re:turn it upside down by Anonymous Coward · 2014-08-01 00:19 · Score: 1

Moderate -1, an inconvenient truth.

Re:Energy footprint by andy.ruddock · 2014-08-01 00:19 · Score: 1

Read the text, and follow the links, from picture #5.

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Only half the story by gmhowell · 2014-08-01 00:20 · Score: 3, Funny

An 'unboxing' is only half of the modern way of reporting on new hardware. The more interesting question in this case is "will it blend?"

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Re:Will it run DOSBox and Doom? by fuzznutz · 2014-08-01 00:23 · Score: 4, Insightful

Not necessarily - the '...FLOPS' refers to FLOating Point Operations Per Second, and the hardware necessary to deal with this might conceivably not have the kind of processing capacity necessary for running DOS or Doom. It's like asking whether an aircraft carrier can sing you child to sleep; lots of power is not always relevant.

Good post, but bad analogy since "computers" are expected to run programs. I'd say it's more like asking whether an aircraft carrier can tow a skier. Maybe, but it won't do it well.

Ooooooh... Custom Paint Job! by dohzer · 2014-08-01 00:35 · Score: 1

Half the money is in the custom paint job.

Re:Ooooooh... Custom Paint Job! by Dins · 2014-08-01 00:52 · Score: 1

Now it just needs a cool set of rimz. Maybe some ground effect lighting. Possibly some pneumatics.

Re:Will it run DOSBox and Doom? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-08-01 00:38 · Score: 2, Funny

Good post, but bad analogy since "computers" are expected to run programs. I'd say it's more like asking whether an aircraft carrier can tow a skier. Maybe, but it won't do it well.

Well, if you use the catapult...

Too little, too late. by nimbius · 2014-08-01 01:16 · Score: 3, Funny

We finally have a candidate system on which we can attempt to run crysis, and what happens? Crytek goes under.

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Ooh, and coasters for beer! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · 2014-08-01 02:23 · Score: 1

Someone at Cray loves them some corn nuts.

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Looks like a brilliantly decorated VAX... by Archtech · 2014-08-01 04:25 · Score: 1

...but what on earth has happened to the Unibus???

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Re:Will it run DOSBox and Doom? by __aaclcg7560 · 2014-08-01 04:36 · Score: 1

I got 500+ FPS when I ran Quake on a dual-core AMD processor and a Radeon 3870 video card. Haven't tested it since I got a quad-core AMD processor and a Radeon 6970 video card.

Re:Nimitz class can do 30+ knots by istartedi · 2014-08-01 04:43 · Score: 1

Requisition item 453/67-A2NX, drag buoy and speedboat package. Secure an ordinary ski rope to the drag buoy, and detail personnel to effect rescue with speedboat if you lose your grip. Don't you guys know anything?

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Re:Ode to past: "Imagine a Beowolf..." by jitterman · 2014-08-01 05:18 · Score: 1

It might be able to generate a 3D image of Natalie Portman with a bowl of hot grits. You never know! I for one bow down to our Cray petaFLOPS overlords.

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Re:Will it run DOSBox and Doom? by jandersen · 2014-08-01 19:00 · Score: 1

I wasn't saying that an aircraft carrier couldn't sing a lullaby - it probably has a tannoy, and it might even sing quite softly; but it can only do so by not using most of its enormous power.

Cool but fastest in Australia?? by kf6auf · 2014-08-03 01:14 · Score: 1

Pictures are cool and all, but there's supercomputer currently at the Australian National University that has been benchmarked at 0.978 PetaFLOPS so saying that this one could be the fastest in the southern hemisphere with up to 1 PetaFLOPS seems a bit like counting your emus before they've hatched.

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