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Critics To FTC: Why Do You Hate In-App Purchasing Freedom?

jfruh writes The FTC has moved aggressively recently against companies that make it too easy for people — especially kids — to rack up huge charges on purchases within apps. But at a dicussion panel sponsored by free-market think tank TechFreedom, critics pushed back. Joshua Wright, an FTC commissioner who dissented in a recent settlement with Apple, says a 15-minute open purchase window produced "obvious and intuitive consumer benefits" and that the FTC "simply substituted its own judgment for a private firm's decision as to how to design a product to satisfy as many users as possible."

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  1. Their Job by BitZtream · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because its their job to hate people who take advantage of others in matters of trade?

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    1. Re:Their Job by jd · · Score: 5, Informative

      Very true. A wholly free market is actually quite toxic, as a certain Adam Smith noted. Especially when it's dishonest.

      In-app purchases are the return of micropayments, but for virtual goods less valuable than Second Life real estate. It is, of course, entirely fair for companies to sell such products and for customers to buy them, but the control system is poor, virtual goods have an amazingly high failure rate for delivery, and prices are often in the small print.

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    2. Re:Their Job by Bob9113 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      >> Because its their job to hate people who take advantage of others in matters of trade?

      > Very true. A wholly free market is actually quite toxic, as a certain Adam Smith noted. Especially when it's dishonest.

      Yes. Yes, yes, yes! Exactly this.

      the FTC "simply substituted its own judgment for a private firm's decision as to how to design a product to satisfy as many users as possible."

      Because that is what we pay them to do. And there is a very good reason; because private firms measure customer satisfaction through the lens of maximization of profit (fairly short run profit in the case of apps), and the FTC measures it through imperfect objective analysis of the rational self-interest and informedness of the transaction participants. Gee, here's a surprise: Those two measures don't always agree, and sometimes, when they are far enough out of whack, it actually increases GDP in the long run if you limit the freedom of people to engage in inefficienty transactions.

      A really good example of such potentially inefficient transactions is children, who do not understand how much time and effort it costs to acquire money, are in the throes of video game passion and a screen pops up saying, "Win More, Only $3.99! Buy Now!"

      Joshua Wright, an FTC commissioner who dissented...

      A market filled with efficient transactions increases GDP in the long run relative to a market with less efficient transactions. So, tell me, Joshua Wright; do you hate the economy? Do you want a lower GDP? Do you want our corporations to lose money? Do want our wealthiest stockholders to have to buy slightly smaller Gulfstreams? Answer me, Mr. Wright: Do you hate America?

  2. Untrue statements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When companies take advantage of customer addiction tendencies, it's predatory, and causes long-term suffering, for short-term satisfaction.
    Since the companies can't regulate themselves, the government must do it for them.

    Coke is without coke these days as well, and that is a good thing (coke causes the brain to become psychopathic over time).

  3. Because The Children by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Socialism is democratic worker control of the means of production, you troglodyte. That's all it is. There is less security under socialism than capitalism, because nobody is allowed to rely on invested capital. This minor controversy has absolutely nothing to do with socialism.

    All that's going on here is a few rich guys whining that they want ways of taking money from people using a technological loophole - the ease with which a child can use mom's credit card - rather than directly as a result of a contract formed between two adults providing informed consent. If anything, the capitalist position would run contrary to TechFreedom's argument because capitalism strives for informed, rational agents, necessarily treating children as a special case. To be clear, children usually cannot form contracts, but nobody owns children, therefore they cannot be entirely responsible for their actions.This reflects their status as developing humans.

    So get off your high horse and stop worrying that the sky is falling. Every dull member of every new generation speaks like the "golden days" have come to an end because xyz minor thing that they don't really understand means the end of the world.