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The Fiercest Rivalry In Tech: Uber vs. Lyft

onehitwonder (1118559) writes WSJ looks at the cantankerous rivalry between two popular ride-sharing companies, Uber and Lyft, and the dirty tactics each employs to weaken its opponent. Lyft, for example, alleges that representatives from Uber frequently order short rides from Lyft just to slow down Lyft's service and to try to poach its drivers. WSJ points out that the rivalry is more than just a made-for-TV competition: "It's a battle for a key role in the future of urban transportation." Lyft certainly isn't Uber's only rival, though, even setting aside conventional taxis and car services, even those two names are big in U.S. cities: its clash with Gett has reportedly involved tricks at least as dirty. Another way to look at the rivalry, too, is that the biggest clash is not between Uber and any other particular company, but rather between the various ride-calling / ride-sharing services taken together against the existing, regulated taxi and car-service companies they threaten.

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  1. In London, Lyft/Uber are intelligence tests. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Anybody who picks them over a black cab driven by someone who's done the Knowledge and who is subject to regular testing is either a clueless tourist or a helpless dullard.

    So many times we've seen previously well state-regulated transportation services undercut by the "free market", which has waited until the older services have been driven out of business before setting up a new monopoly on their terms. The Beeching Axe of the '60s was nothing more than a guy with an ownership a highway-building company on the government payroll unravelling the onion of rail transport. The initial deregulation of bus services across the south coast has led to domination by Stagecoach, which spent years operating a loss, but whose monopoly and subsequent regulatory capture has allowed its over-priced, under-utilised buses across the south.

    Looking to the skies, we're seeing exactly the same thing with SpaceX. Boeing was once the nimble, cheap innovator to which NASA contracted out, before it became a greedy behemoth sucking at government teat. History is repeating itself with SpaceX - but with even less management control in the hands of NASA, sadly, so there is less opportunity to choose a selection of specialist companies to cooperate on new projects, as was the case during the space heydays of the '60s.

    1. Re:In London, Lyft/Uber are intelligence tests. by Travis+Mansbridge · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you really think the man who opened all of Tesla's patents to the public has wealth as his highest aspiration?

  2. Makes both look bad by GlennC · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Between this nonsense and the fact that the ride sharing services don't have the proper licensing and proof of insurance, I wouldn't feel comfortable using any of them.

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  3. Re:good by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In a normal free market environment I would simply say let the market sort them out

    There are not 'normal free markets', they simply don't exist.

    Sooner or later they devolve into this, or people selling outright fradulent/dangerous products, or they form cartels to screw over the consumer.

    Left to its own devices, a free market becomes anything but. It's a complete myth that it will arrive at perfect outcomes, and it always has been.

    Adam Smith knew this when he wrote Wealth of Nations.

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  4. Regulations are even worse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Your regulations (especially limited medallions) have caused more waste than these "dirty tactics" do. If your claim is "I don't support medallions, but instead some better regulation than the status quo", then at this point you really need to explain why you think the government is listening to your opinion at all (as opposed to special interests and economic elites). They've had decades to eliminate medallions, and now people are suggesting changes only because Lyft and Uber have forced the issue.

    How about you guys fix your taxi regulations first, then I'll consider the wisdom of trusting the same politicians to regulate ride-sharing.

  5. Tech Rivalry? by Khyber · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is just low-down mafia-level diversion bullshit. This isn't rivalry, and Uber/Lyft aren't fucking tech, they're taxi services that HAPPEN to be tied to using a smartphone - guess what Taxi drivers are tied to all day? A smartphone AND a CB radio AND a bunch of other shit that makes them actually worthy of the tech title.

    Submitter should be stopped from posting any more stories until he figures out exactly what is tech worthy. Of course, given the 7 digit UID, not likely.

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  6. Re:Dirty tactics by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any action which directly interferes with your competitions business, done with that sole intention. So booking lifts and not taking them up, or booking lots of short trips which put competitors drivers out of position or otherwise unlikely to be able to pick up the more lucrative jobs (ie, have an employee travel to the middle of an industrial estate right when a major train or bus arrives, so your drivers get the more lucrative jobs).

    The link is very interesting, and if true it shows a concerted effort to disrupt Ubers competitors through anti-competitive behaviour.