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The Quiet Before the Next IT Revolution

snydeq writes: Now that the technologies behind our servers and networks have stabilized, IT can look forward to a different kind of constant change, writes Paul Venezia. "In IT, we are actually seeing a bit of stasis. I don't mean that the IT world isn't moving at the speed of light — it is — but the technologies we use in our corporate data centers have progressed to the point where we can leave them be for the foreseeable future without worry that they will cause blocking problems in other areas of the infrastructure. What all this means for IT is not that we can finally sit back and take a break after decades of turbulence, but that we can now focus less on the foundational elements of IT and more on the refinements. ... In essence, we have finally built the transcontinental railroad, and now we can use it to completely transform our Wild West."

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  1. A rather simplistic hardware-centric view by msobkow · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article is a rather simplistic hardware-centric viewpoint. It doesn't even begin to touch on the areas where IT has always struggled: design, coding, debugging, and deployment. Instead it completely ignores the issue of software development, and instead bleats about how we can "roll back" servers with the click of a button in a virtual environment.

    Which, of course, conveniently ignores the fact that someone has to write the code that runs in those virtual servers, debug it, test it, integrate it, package it, and ship it. Should it be an upgrade to an existing service/server, add in the overhead of designing, coding, and testing the database migration scripts for it, and coordinating the deployments of application virtual servers with the database servers.

    Are things easier than they used to be? Perhaps for they basic system administration tasks.

    But those have never been where the bulk of time and budget go.

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    1. Re:A rather simplistic hardware-centric view by jemmyw · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Indeed, and virtualization is a rapidly evolving part of infrastructure right now. We may no longer be upgrading the hardware as rapidly (although I'm not certain about that either), but the virtual layer and tools are changing, and upgrading those requires just as much upheaval.

    2. Re:A rather simplistic hardware-centric view by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even software is slowing down, though. A lot of the commodity software reached the point of 'good enough' years ago - look how long it's taken to get away from XP, and still many organisations continue to use it. The same is true of office suites: For most people, they don't use any feature not present in Office 95. Updating software has gone from an essential part of the life cycle to something that only needs to be done every five years, sometimes longer.

      Around 2025 we will probably see a repeat of the XP situation as Microsoft tries desperately to get rid of the vast installed base of Windows 7, and organisations point out that what they have been using for the last decade works fine so they have no reason to upgrade.

    3. Re:A rather simplistic hardware-centric view by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm talking about new product major versions, not just patches.

      The only reason many organisations are ditching XP right now is that MS stopped supplying updates. That isn't "Getting new software to further advance the organisation." That's more "Reluctantly going through the testing and training nightmare of a major deployment because Microsoft want to obsolete our otherwise-satisfactory existing software."

    4. Re:A rather simplistic hardware-centric view by Junta · · Score: 2

      www.scalemp.com does what you request.

      It's not exactly all warm and fuzzy. Things are much improved from the Mosix days in terms of having the right available data and kernel scheduling behaviors (largely thanks to the rise of NUMA architecture as the usual system design). However there is a simple reality that the server to server interconnect is still massively higher latency and lower bandwidth than QPI or HyperTransport. So if a 'single system' application is executed designed around assumptions of no worse than QPI inter-process connectivity, it still won't be that nice and an application managing the messaging more explicitly will fare better.

      But if you have to use an application that can do multi core but not multi node and force it to scale *somewhat*, ScaleMP can help things out significantly.

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    5. Re:A rather simplistic hardware-centric view by Warbothong · · Score: 2

      A lot of the commodity software reached the point of 'good enough' years ago - look how long it's taken to get away from XP, and still many organisations continue to use it.

      I find it hard to believe that operating systems became "good enough" with Windows XP. Rather, Vista took so long to come out that it disrupted the established upgrade cycle. If the previous 2-to-3-year cycle had continued, Vista would have come out in 2003 (without as many changes, obviously), Windows 7 in 2005 and Windows 8 in 2007. We'd be on something like Windows 12 by now.

      It's good that consumers are more aware and critical of forced obsolecence, but I don't agree with the "XP is good enough" crowd. It makes sense to want the latest (eg. Windows 8); it makes sense to use something until it's no longer supported (eg. Vista); it makes sense to use something that's "good enough" (eg. Windows 95 for features, or 2000 for compatibility). XP is none of those: it's out of date, unsupported and a bloated resource hog.

    6. Re:A rather simplistic hardware-centric view by jon3k · · Score: 2

      I kind of agree with TFA here -- hear me out here. We went through a pretty fundamental shift in the datacenter over the last 10 years or so, and it's finally settling down. Of course there will be constant evolutionary progressions, updates, patches, etc we're basically done totally reinventing the datacenter. 10GbE, virtualization, the rise of SANs and converged data/storage, along with public/private/hybrid clouds - these huge transformative shifts have mostly happened already and we're settling into this new architecture. That's not to say there won't be patches and upgrades, but fundamentally, from a architectural design perspective, things have basically settled down in the datacenter. The major pieces and components of the datacenter are pretty much set at this point and now we'll just continue to innovate on top of this infrastructure.

  2. Not paying attention? by felixrising · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I assume you are talking about the hardware... because once you have a "private cloud", the next step is moving away from setting up servers and configuring the applications manually, and getting into full on DevOps style dynamically scaling virtual workloads, that are completely (VM and their applications, the network configuration including "micro networks" and firewall rules) stood up and torn down dynamically according to the demands of the customers accessing the systems.. those same workloads can move anywhere from your own infrastructure to leased private infrastructure to public infrastructure without any input from you... of course, none of this is new... but it's certainly a paradigm shift in the way we manage and view our infrastructure... hardly something static or settled. Really this is a fast moving area that is hard to keep up with.

  3. If you didn't know what you were doing ... by khasim · · Score: 4, Informative

    Are things easier than they used to be? Perhaps for they basic system administration tasks.

    But those have never been where the bulk of time and budget go.

    They could be if you did not know what you were doing. Like I suspect the author of TFA did not know.

    From TFA:

    Where we once walked on tightropes every day doing basic server maintenance, we are now afforded nearly instant undo buttons, as snapshots of virtual servers allow us to roll back server updates and changes with a click.

    If he's talking about a production system then he's an idiot.

    If he's talking about a test system then what does it matter? The time spent running the tests was a lot longer than the time spent restoring a system if any of those tests failed.

    And finally:

    Within the course of a decade or so, we saw networking technology progress from 10Base-2 to 10Base-T, to 100Base-T to Gigabit Ethernet. Each leap required systemic changes in the data center and in the corporate network.

    WTF is 10Base-2 doing there? I haven't seen that since the mid-90's. Meanwhile, every PC that I've seen in the last 10 years has had built-in gigabit Ethernet.

    If he wants to talk about hardware then he needs to talk about thing like Cisco Nexus. And even that is not "new".

    And, as you pointed out, the PROGRAMMING aspects always lag way behind the physical aspects. And writing good code is as difficult today as it has ever been.

    1. Re:If you didn't know what you were doing ... by kevingolding2001 · · Score: 2

      WTF is 10Base-2 doing there? I haven't seen that since the mid-90's.

      That was probably the "or so" that came after the word 'decade'.

      A "decade or so" could be taken to mean 2 of them, which puts it back in the mid 1990's.

      I think you're just being Captain Pedantic, when all the GP was really trying to say was that things move pretty quickly in IT.

    2. Re:If you didn't know what you were doing ... by Iamthecheese · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Programming in good code isn't hard at all. What's hard is programming well when you're on the fifth "all hands on deck" rush job this year, you have two years of experience and no training because your company was too cheap to pay a decent wage or train you, a humiliating and useless performance review is just 'round the corner, and you doubt anything you type will end up in the final product. The problem is a widespread cultural one. When IT companies are willing to spend the time and money for consistent quality that's when they'll start to put out quality products.

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    3. Re:If you didn't know what you were doing ... by See+Attached · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Agreed 100% There is never time to do it right, but there is always time to do it over. Reviews that admit success, but celebrate weakness are not positive experiences. There is another trend of third parties marketing infrastructure solutions to high level management, skipping local subject matter experts. This triples the work we have to do. change is fine, and embraced, but we are paid for something. Provide stability and compliance in a rapidly evolving globalized environment.

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  4. Re:Horseshit by Z00L00K · · Score: 2

    Now - just because one company goes belly-up doesn't mean that another can't take over and be successful.

    What you have is not by far a successful IT platform yet, you have the foundation. What is limiting is the ISPs and their customer agreements that effective limits the users to being consumers of bandwidth and services. When the ISPs realizes that their models with bandwidth throttling and agreements prohibiting customers to set up services at home slows down development of new companies and services then you will see new creations. Not everything will be successful, but enough will be to build the next big corporation.

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  5. Re:Horseshit by davester666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    alternately, it will soon be time for the pendulum to swing back to "we've got to have everything in-house, these security breaches are killing us" and "dumb terminals and having everything in the 'cloud' is killing productivity when the cloud is down, we need real apps so users can work even when the cloud doesn't"

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  6. Wrong by idji · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, you IT people are no longer the great revolutionists - your time is gone. You are now just plumbers, who need to fix the infrastructure when it are broken. Other than that, we don't want to hear from you, and we certainly don't want your veto on our business decisions - that is why a lot of us business people use the cloud, because the cloud doesn't say "can't work, takes X months, and I need X M$ to set it up", but is running tomorrow out of operational budget.

    1. Re:Wrong by ruir · · Score: 2

      Sure the cloud runs with gremlins, fuck yeah. I guess you also dont care about your mechanic says and use the "garage", and also do not care without you dentist says and go there once every 5 years. If you do not care what professionals advise you, you are an idiot and do not deserve competent people working for/with you. Douche bag.

    2. Re:Wrong by fisted · · Score: 2
      So essentially you're saying that you, as a technically illiterate person, don't give a crap about the opinion of your sysadmin in technical questions.
      Oh, wait, you've already mentioned you're a business person. Enjoy your Dunning-Kruger while it lasts.

      need to fix the infrastructure when it are broken.

      Shall we fix your understanding of the English language while we're at it? Or would that be too mission-critical a business decision?

    3. Re:Wrong by Lumpy · · Score: 2

      Awesome, we need to join the plumbers union and start getting $125 an hour then. Thanks for your support!

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  7. Oh lookie... by roger10-4 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another submission to a superficial article from syndeq to drum up traffic for Info World.

  8. Looking at the past... by CaptainOfSpray · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...like a dinosaur in the last days before the meteor. The future is over there in the Makerspaces, where 3D printing, embedded stuff, robotics, CNC machines, homebrew PCBs at dirt-cheap prices are happening. It's all growing like weeds, crosses the boundaries between all disciplines includg art, and is an essential precursor to the next Industrial Revolution, in which you and your giant installations will be completely bypassed.

    You, sir, are a buggy-whip manufacturer (as well as a dinosaur).

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    1. Re:Looking at the past... by Bite+The+Pillow · · Score: 2

      Seems like you are talking about general computing and related applications of computing. This guy is talking about business IT, which is a tiny subset of computing.

      It would not be inappropriate to mod parent off topic for posting a generalist reply to something written for a specific audience.

    2. Re:Looking at the past... by CaptainOfSpray · · Score: 2

      Not off-topic .. TFA is claming to know where "the next IT revolution" is coming from, and I'm saying he is looking in exactly the wrong direction.

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  9. Re:Horseshit by some+old+guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I envy your optimism and agree that ISPs are the problem, but I don't see how new companies and services will force change upon ISPs.

    New ISPs? Not in the state-sanctioned monopolist USA.

    Loss of customers? See above.

    The ISP and backbone provider bridge trolls sleep soundly, knowing that no one has the money or statutory permission to build competing bridges.

    Only the FCC and Congress could do that, and the oligarchs are quite happy with the current bridge trolls.

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  10. Another layer has solidified by seoras · · Score: 2

    I think would be a better way of looking at what this article is on about.
    Back in the late 80's early 90's when I graduated and started my career in the Networking Industry the OSI 7 layer model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model) was often referred to. You don't hear it mentioned much these days.
    If you applied IT history and economics to it you'll find that each of those layers saw a period of fantastic growth & innovation (a few short years) before becoming IT commodities and having little value left to reap but at the same time becoming stable and allowing growth & innovation in the next layer above.
    Cisco, the once darling of Wall Street, benefited from the growth & innovation in layers 3 to 5.
    All 7 layers are now stable and "complete", there's no growth value left in them, Cisco as the example struggles when it once printed money.
    I'd like to see someone attempt to define layers 8 ->12 with an attempt at extrapolating into the future with layers 13 and above.
    On a related topic I've been reading a lot of articles around the hardships of making money as an independent App developer.
    It occurs to me, taking this layered view of the economies of IT, that perhaps software itself has seen it's best days behind it.
    That in fact to find value as a lone developer, or even as a company, software is just a commodity now which should be free with the money coming from the services you sell on top of, or a few layers above.
    How long until machines program themselves after a short interview with their human "client" as to their requirements (layer 13)?

  11. um by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

    Now that the technologies behind our servers and networks have stabilized, IT can look forward to a different kind of constant change, writes Paul Venezia.

    I don't think Paul Venezia works in IT.

  12. I for one am enjoying our new quiet. by nimbius · · Score: 2

    As a senior engineer, im glad to get some downtime before the "next revolution." I certainly havent had to patch any hacks or bugs related to our transcontinental wonkavator. this week ive done nothing but drink pina coladas and enjoy a long vacation instead of worry about vendor lock-in and incompatibility, which as we all know was solved during the IT Revolution(c). thanks to the IT revolution (and especially the cloud) ive had plenty of time to spend with friends playing my favourite games, which in no way were encumbered by a lack of reliable infrastructure to play them on (thanks again IT Revolution!) Technologies used in the corporate data center like DRAC and EFI PXE have worked so well that i dont even have to worry about security vulnerabilities or bugs. gone are the days when disk and ram shortages were commonplace, as are the days when disks were specifically coded to certain vendors and controllers.

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  13. Re:Horseshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I know that was sarcasm, but for the sarcasm impaired (or the ignorant), I recommend reading Greenspan's testimony to a congressional oversight committee in 2008 where he was forced to admit that the objectivist-based idiocy about free markets and rationality always winning out that underpinned the Reagan Revolution and subsequent de-regulation and freeing of the "free market" does not work in the real world.

    Amazing, to see someone who gazed admiringly on Ayn Rand as he sat at her feet forced to admit his entire philosophical base is a fallacy.

      = = =

    REP. HENRY WAXMAN: The question I have for you is, you had an ideology, you had a belief that free, competitive — and this is your statement — “I do have an ideology. My judgment is that free, competitive markets are by far the unrivaled way to organize economies. We’ve tried regulation. None meaningfully worked.” That was your quote.

    You had the authority to prevent irresponsible lending practices that led to the subprime mortgage crisis. You were advised to do so by many others. And now our whole economy is paying its price.

    Do you feel that your ideology pushed you to make decisions that you wish you had not made?

    ALAN GREENSPAN: Well, remember that what an ideology is, is a conceptual framework with the way people deal with reality. Everyone has one. You have to — to exist, you need an ideology. The question is whether it is accurate or not.

    And what I’m saying to you is, yes, I found a flaw. I don’t know how significant or permanent it is, but I’ve been very distressed by that fact.

    REP. HENRY WAXMAN: You found a flaw in the reality

    ALAN GREENSPAN: Flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works, so to speak.

    REP. HENRY WAXMAN: In other words, you found that your view of the world, your ideology, was not right, it was not working?

    ALAN GREENSPAN: That is — precisely. No, that’s precisely the reason I was shocked, because I had been going for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well.

  14. Nothing has stopped or stablized by labradort · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The concept is false. Things have changed in how they break and what we are concerned about on a daily basis. 10 years ago I didn't have compromised accounts to worry about every day. But I did spend more time dealing with hard drive failure and recovery. We are still busy with new problems and can't just walk off and let the systems handle it.

    If you believe IT is like running your Android device, then yes, there is little to be done other than pick your apps and click away. If you have some security awareness you would know there is much going on to be concerned about. When the maker of a leading anti-virus product declares AV detection is dead, it is time to be proactive looking at the problem. Too many IT folk believe if there is malware it will announce itself. Good luck with that assumption.