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The Royal Society Proposes First Framework For Climate Engineering Experiments

Jason Koebler writes The Royal Society of London, the world's oldest scientific publisher, has unveiled a proposal to create the first serious framework for future geoengineering experiments. It's a sign that what are still considered drastic and risky measures to combat climate change are drifting further into the purview of mainstream science. The scientific body has issued a call to create "an open and transparent review process that ensures such experiments have the necessary social license to operate."

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  1. You get nothing. Good day, sir! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I were a schill for big business, I'd be all, "Yeah yeah! Do it! Let's compensate by geoengineering!"

    DO NOT DO THIS. If it works and you overshoot, you'll induce another ice age, which can happen in as few as a couple of years. Unlike moving in from the oceans over 100-300 years (a nuisance, and less damaging to human life than slowing technological advancement by massive intervention in the economy) an ice age will indeed, and actually, and rapidly kill billions of people.

    Lik Willy Wonka, I will sigh and burble flatedly, "No. Stop. Don't do it." but the children won't listen.

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  2. Transparent? by Pino+Grigio · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When they say "open and transparent" what they mean is that anyone who's even vaguely sceptical will be hounded out at the first opportunity.

    1. Re:Transparent? by dave420 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You didn't have any logic or facts either, just your opinion. He chose to highlight the fact that your opinion is not based on the scientific findings of the decades of research on climate change by simply pointing to your name, which is incredibly apt. Don't confuse brevity with laziness :)

  3. What could possibly go wrong? by Noryungi · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Instead of potentially dangerous experiments, may I suggest the oldest known and proven solution to global warming?

    This is extremely complicated, so please bear with me for a minute or two:

    Plant. More. Trees.

    Don't believe me? Fine, don't take my word for it. Heck, even that bastion of free enterprise, The Economist got behind that idea!

    So, why is not implemented on a large scale? Because planting trees is not techonologically "sexy" - it is well known, has been well known for centuries, and, for maximum effect, would require rich countries to invest serious money in poorer countries, to save the rainforest (which is where tree-planting would have maximum impact). And we cannot allow these natives to get money to do something as simple as plant a tree, right?

    In other words, the wealthiest have decided it is a lot more fun to throw money at dangerous or even foolish and ineffectual solutions rather than provide for jobs and development in the poorest countries of the world -- precisely the countries that will suffer the most due to global warming. Make of that what you will.

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    1. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Beck_Neard · · Score: 4, Informative

      Most conversion of CO2 to O2 is done by algae and other marine life (93% iirc). Trees only contribute a very small percentage. You can increase algae to absorb CO2, but having more algae is not a good thing - it creates toxic environments that kill other types of life: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...

      By the way this is what a lot of people get wrong when they say 'CO2 is plant food!!'

      The CO2 problem is a huge problem we've created that both environmentalists and anti-environmentalists usually vastly underestimate.

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    2. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by raind · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Toledo Ohio residents can tell you how that algae bloom worked for them: http://www.motherjones.com/tom...

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  4. Re:You get nothing. Good day, sir! by riverat1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    DO NOT DO THIS. If it works and you overshoot, you'll induce another ice age, which can happen in as few as a couple of years.

    No, an ice age is not something that can happen in a couple of years. The thermal capacitance of the oceans pretty much guarantees that. If you look at the records of past ice ages (glaciations) over the past million years the drop into them is usually much slower than the rise out of them.

    Besides that, nothing about geoengineering is long lasting. It pretty much requires that you keep doing it to maintain the effect. That will be an ongoing expense without any clear end.