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Illinois University Restricts Access To Social Media, Online Political Content

onproton writes Northern Illinois University recently began restricting student access to web pages that contain "illegal or unethical" content which, according to University policy, includes resources used for "political activities...and the organization or participation in meetings, rallies and demonstrations." A student raised concerns after attempting to access the Wikipedia page for Westboro Baptist Church, and receiving a filter message informing him that his access of this page would likely violate the University's Acceptable Use Policy, along with a warning that "all violations would be reviewed." This has lead to questions about whether some policies that restrict student access to information are in the best interest of the primary goal of education.

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  1. More about Indoctrination by jasonrice22 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps it is because the university is more about indoctrination than education.

    1. Re:More about Indoctrination by wisnoskij · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Perhaps it is because all universities are more about indoctrination than education.

      Fixed that for you.

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    2. Re:More about Indoctrination by fightinfilipino · · Score: 4, Funny

      Perhaps it is because some universities are more about indoctrination than education.

      Fixed that for you.

      only a Sith deals in absolutes.

    3. Re:More about Indoctrination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Our internet usage policy at the labs was ANYTHING that is legal, including porn. You did get told got to a corner and turn your monitor as not to offend anyone with your fetishes. The stories the lab assistants told. Labs were also open to the public, you just had to register and have proof of local permanent residency, and you got booted if a student needed a spot. Any punishment the University could dole out, including expulsion, was able to be overruled by a jury of students, so long as it wasn't over anything illegal by law or not paying your tuition. Very liberal and democratic. The student government had the power to block renovations and new buildings being built. They have a lot of say in the Universities finances, including raising funds from alumni and having new buildings built.

      The student body as a whole had roughly equal power to the management, but everyone was respectful of their duties. I enjoyed working there as a student employee. Administration people were very nice, teachers were nice, co-workers were nice, students were nice. It was a great time.

    4. Re:More about Indoctrination by wisnoskij · · Score: 4, Funny

      I never realised how ironic/hypocritical that statement was until now.

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    5. Re:More about Indoctrination by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      That may be true but it is this particular University that is making the situation painfully obvious today.

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    6. Re:More about Indoctrination by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I tried to see if that was true, but my university won't let me visit any of the websites that talk about it :(

    7. Re:More about Indoctrination by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 1

      So only conservatives are supposed to have freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and the like?

    8. Re:More about Indoctrination by SpockLogic · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it is because the university is more about indoctrination than education.

      This reeks of the university administration imposing a policy that the faculty and students will ultimately defeat.

  2. Tor... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    For however many years freedom has left.

  3. Graduate Students.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Well, that's one place I won't be applying for graduate school. Although NIU sounds like a fly by night school anyway... It's UI-UC that's on my radar.

  4. could've sworn this was not the case by MoFoQ · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    Supposedly the policy applies to employees not students.

    1. Re:could've sworn this was not the case by wiredlogic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Because an institution of higher learning prefers its workers to be dumb and uninformed.

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    2. Re:could've sworn this was not the case by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's the schools PR spin, but it's undermined by the fact the policy itself specifically says it applies to students:

      Northern Illinois University information technology resources, including the electronic communications network (NIUnet) on the NIU campus and off-campus education and research centers, computers attached to this network, and any associated computational resource or service are for the use of persons affiliated with Northern Illinois University, including faculty, staff, emeritus personnel, and students in good standing. Information technology resources are provided by the university to further the university's mission of research, instruction, and public service. The use of these resources should be consistent with this mission, this policy, and the University’s other use, security policies, and other applicable regulations including the State Officials and Employees Ethics Act (SOEEA). Pursuant to the NIU Electronic Mail policy, the email system may be utilized for personal messages subject to the limitations set forth in these and other applicable policies and to the extent that personal usage does not interfere with assigned responsibilities. By using NIU services, all individuals, including, but not limited to, employees, students, customers, volunteers, and third parties, unconditionally accept the terms of this policy.

    3. Re:could've sworn this was not the case by wiredlogic · · Score: 2

      They blocked the Wikipedia page about the church which is mostly a detailed list of their bigoted views and activities. It isn't illegal or unethical to learn about hateful people. Should they also erase Hitler from history too?

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    4. Re:could've sworn this was not the case by msauve · · Score: 1, Insightful

      "Because an institution of higher learning prefers its workers to be dumb and uninformed"

      No...because an employer pays for their employee's Internet access so they can do the employer's business. It's not like there aren't multiple ways to access the Internet.

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    5. Re:could've sworn this was not the case by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 1

      "Because an institution of higher learning prefers its workers to be dumb and uninformed"

      No...because an employer pays for their employee's Internet access so they can do the employer's business. It's not like there aren't multiple ways to access the Internet.

      In other words people will switch to using smartphones and tablets to access Facebook, Wikipedia, politically correct websites, etc... and nothing really changes. Censorship is a game of Whac-A-Mole that the censors will always loose.

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    6. Re:could've sworn this was not the case by penix1 · · Score: 1

      "Because an institution of higher learning prefers its workers to be dumb and uninformed"

      No...because an employer pays for their employee's Internet access so they can do the employer's business. It's not like there aren't multiple ways to access the Internet.

      In other words people will switch to using smartphones and tablets to access Facebook, Wikipedia, politically correct websites, etc... and nothing really changes. Censorship is a game of Whac-A-Mole that the censors will always loose.

      It depends on the goal of the censorship. If the goal is to prevent you from ever accessing the restricted content, then you are correct. On the other hand if the goal is to prevent you from using my network to access it, then they certainly can do that.

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    7. Re:could've sworn this was not the case by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      you would go off campus to do whatever research you want.

      You do realize what a completely inane comment that is.

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    8. Re:could've sworn this was not the case by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      After all, that seems to be standard procedure at the Huffington School of Medicine.

    9. Re:could've sworn this was not the case by onproton · · Score: 2
      1. I am a bit taken aback at the responses referencing this Huffington Post article - a couple of quick notes:
      2. The University policy restricts access to these websites for students as well as staff, in some cases it is possible to still click through to the page after the filter message, but visitors are issued a warning informing them that accessing the site is likely against policy and, in essence, that that they are being watched (as shown in the source referenced in the article).
      3. I cannot speak to the intentions of the University, but (as seen in other responses here) the policy itself specifically states, "By using NIU services, all individuals, including, but not limited to, employees, students, customers, volunteers, and third parties, unconditionally accept the terms of this policy."
      4. In addition, the accusations presented go deeper than just social media - to the point that any controversial material, or discussion of such material, would be a violation. Again, I cannot say if this is the intention, or speak to how the policy will be enforced, but this is the way the terms are written.
      5. .
      6. I understand that we tend to rely heavily on the media to fact check our news for us - and frankly, I am shocked at the lack of research The Huffington Post seems to have done prior to publishing this article. Simply reading the terms of the policy in question seems to point out numerous contradictions to the University's statements.
  5. Turn it around: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    An AUP governs the use of campus equipment and services.

    I clicked the link and read the article, and there's gasping outrage about how they're "limiting free speech" by telling students they *also* can't use the campus computer systems for things like political messaging, meetings, rallies, or anything else - in other words, no, you can't spam the student body.

    And for those of you who think that it's not right that they'd limit that sort of usage, think long and hard about this:

    - Campus Christian Ministry decides to start spamming the entire campus with pro-life messages.
    - Young Republicans club start spamming the entire campus with messages calling for the impeachment of Pres. Obama.
    - ROTC program starts spamming the entire campus with messages encouraging students to sign up for military service.

    Where's your unfettered free speech now?

    1. Re:Turn it around: by Richy_T · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doesn't follow. There's a big difference between solicited and unsolicited email.

    2. Re:Turn it around: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't get your point. The summary says they blocked access to Wikipedia articles. Does the university library also cuts out definitions of "communism" (or any other term they are afraid of) from their encyclopedias?

    3. Re:Turn it around: by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 3, Informative

      An AUP governs the use of campus equipment and services.

      I clicked the link and read the article, and there's gasping outrage about how they're "limiting free speech" by telling students they *also* can't use the campus computer systems for things like political messaging, meetings, rallies, or anything else - in other words, no, you can't spam the student body.

      And for those of you who think that it's not right that they'd limit that sort of usage, think long and hard about this:

      - Campus Christian Ministry decides to start spamming the entire campus with pro-life messages.
      - Young Republicans club start spamming the entire campus with messages calling for the impeachment of Pres. Obama.
      - ROTC program starts spamming the entire campus with messages encouraging students to sign up for military service.

      Where's your unfettered free speech now?

      Yeah how dare those conservatives exercise their rights to free speech its not like you can mark them as spam and never hear anything they say again. Hell lets take this a step further lets just curtail all political speech on a public campus, In-fact lets set aside an area where they can say what they think where no one else was to hear it we can call it a free speech zone...

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    4. Re:Turn it around: by wisnoskij · · Score: 3

      What does spamming the entire campus body have to do with accessing a political article on wikipedia?

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    5. Re:Turn it around: by TapeCutter · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The right to free speech does not mean a university has to provide the publishing infrastructure to make that speech. By logical extension of your standards universities must also provide spray cans so that students can spray paint their thoughts onto the campus buildings. Also Fred Phelps is not a defender of free speech , he's a serial pest who harrases people at family funerals, I really wish more of his victims used the "fighting words" defense as an excuse to beat the shit out of the repulsive little turd.

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    6. Re:Turn it around: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Conservatives on a college campus? Whaaaatttttt?????

    7. Re:Turn it around: by lgw · · Score: 5, Interesting

      right to free speech does not mean a university has to provide the publishing infrastructure to make that speech.

      But this isn't about publishing. This is about web access. What was your point again?

      Also Fred Phelps is not a defender of free speech , he's a serial pest who harrases people at family funerals

      The man is a freaking icon of free speech. Only hateful, harmful, ugly, disagreeable speech needs any protection in the first place. I can't think of a living speaker who offends my more than that guy has. If you don't support his right to free speech, you're simply unclear on the concept.

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    8. Re:Turn it around: by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

      - Campus Christian Ministry decides to start spamming the entire campus with pro-life messages.
      - Young Republicans club start spamming the entire campus with messages calling for the impeachment of Pres. Obama.
      - ROTC program starts spamming the entire campus with messages encouraging students to sign up for military service.

      Where's your unfettered free speech now?

      Why anybody would be worried about those groups or any other boggles the minds. If the content isn't illegal, then why censor it? Surely if kids are smart enough to be in college, they are smart enough to hit a delete key for content they don't want.

    9. Re:Turn it around: by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The man is a freaking icon of free speech. Only hateful, harmful, ugly, disagreeable speech needs any protection in the first place. I can't think of a living speaker who offends my more than that guy has. If you don't support his right to free speech, you're simply unclear on the concept.

      That's not a two way street. Just because all the speech that needs protecting offends someone doesn't mean all offensive speech should have protection. Threats, libel, slander, fraud and perjury are all forms of speech. Playing loud music at 3AM is arguably a form of expression. The "freedom of speech" card is not absolute in any country on earth, even the US.

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    10. Re:Turn it around: by DRJlaw · · Score: 1

      The right to free speech does not mean a university has to provide the publishing infrastructure to make that speech.

      No, but it does mean that a public university (note: NIU is a public university, i.e., an institution established by the State of Illinois) which decides to provide a publishing infrastructure cannot the restrict use of that infrastructure based upon the content of what is published without having a compelling interest and using the least restrictive means necessary to achieve that interest.

      Your post would be relevant if NIU was debating whether to roll out internet access. Since it has already done so, it does not get to withdraw that publishing infrastructure simply because it views the content as being controversial, political, or somehow less worthy than "approved projects."

      Lawyered...

    11. Re:Turn it around: by penguinoid · · Score: 3, Funny

      - Campus Christian Ministry decides to start spamming the entire campus with pro-life messages.
      - Young Republicans club start spamming the entire campus with messages calling for the impeachment of Pres. Obama.
      - ROTC program starts spamming the entire campus with messages encouraging students to sign up for military service.

      Where's your unfettered free speech now?

      In my spam folder?

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    12. Re:Turn it around: by WaffleMonster · · Score: 1

      The right to free speech does not mean a university has to provide the publishing infrastructure to make that speech.

      No shit university can do whatever it wants.. as a result they can expect to be held accountable for propagating indefensible policies. Fact this university is state funded means they have to answer to more than just students.

      By logical extension of your standards universities must also provide spray cans so that students can spray paint their thoughts onto the campus buildings.

      Censoring content is not spray cans sorry.

    13. Re:Turn it around: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You mean all that money they already paid?

    14. Re:Turn it around: by ahankinson · · Score: 1

      It's not a corporate network, it's a university network -- there's a difference. A university network is, essentially, an extension of the library.

    15. Re:Turn it around: by Monoman · · Score: 1

      The library doesn't have unlimited porn, social media, music, etc etc but that is what the majority of the students are using the network for at the school. There isn't nearly as much "personal research" going on in a library as there is on the Internet.

      I'm not saying network access should be restricted. I'm just saying let's be honest about how it is being used.

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    16. Re:Turn it around: by Adambomb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For all I detest the fact, i still hold that anyone should be free to be a complete fucking idiot. If you hold ultra fundamentalist nutjobs as being limitable speech you are simply paving the way for rationalism to be limited in the advent of a fucking moronic demographic spike. Overestimating future generations is kind of what has fucked america over already.

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    17. Re:Turn it around: by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      Just because all the speech that needs protecting offends someone doesn't mean all offensive speech should have protection. Threats, libel, slander, fraud and perjury are all forms of speech.

      You're getting speech confused with the consequences - or lack thereof - of said speech. Two separate issues.

    18. Re:Turn it around: by JenovaSynthesis · · Score: 1

      Free speech guarantees you the right to say it free from consequences. It says nothing about a guaranteed venue or audience. And any college would have a legitimate interest in blocking that material over their e-mail system on a mass scale. It's happened before:

      "An estimated 3000 [Michigan State University] students protesting the ban on alcohol at Munn Field tailgate parties resulted in police firing tear gas at the crowd. The gathering was planned in advance by an email spread through the student body email system asking students to gather and protest the ban. The university police informed students, via the school newspaper, that anyone getting on Munn Field would be arrested for trespassing. One student crossed the fence and was arrested by campus police. Shortly thereafter, 30-40 students crossed the fence and when the remaining students saw the police unable to arrest everyone, approximately 1,500 students poured over the fence on Munn field. The students played football, frisbee and played in the rain and mud. The police then tear gassed the students, who then left and went to the University President's (M. Peter McPherson) house. When the students learned the President was not available, they then went to Grand River Ave, and a small riot ensued."

      And don't pull the "only conservatives are restricted" card because it is easily annihilated.

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    19. Re:Turn it around: by lgw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Again with the "express". No, let's stay on the topic of "should a university provide students with the ability to read up on controversial political topics?" Of course they fucking should, or what's the point of a university? If a university doesn't exist for the very purpose of providing open access to all the information that there is without any for of censorship, what good is it? Such an institution should receive no accreditation, and no public funds.
       

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    20. Re:Turn it around: by DrEmu · · Score: 2

      For Heaven's sake. There are those of us who have been thinking "long and hard" about this since we went to college 50 years ago. It's a First Amendment violation pure and simple, and the fact that somebody feels they get to "think about it" is disgusting. There is nothing to think about when faced with censorship. It is the fundamental enemy of mankind.

  6. Re:Conservatives hate Fred Phelps by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    Fred died.

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  7. My guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Someone in IT over the summer was told to put on filtering NOW but some campus administrator. That person then found one quickly and installed it, without checking what it actually filters (although filtering companies do make that tough). There's probably lots of gotcha sites that are filtered at NIU nobody knows about yet.

    1. Re:My guess by mpe · · Score: 1

      That person then found one quickly and installed it, without checking what it actually filters (although filtering companies do make that tough).

      It also appears to be fairly common for such companies to not be exactly honest about their filtering criteria either. Especially when it comes to anything "political".

  8. Re:Conservatives hate Fred Phelps by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

    Nobody liked Fred except the 100 brainwashed family members in his "congregation". I was thoroughly disappointed with the gay community's reaction to his death, I had been looking forward to a Brazilian style Mardi Gras at Fred's funeral. Turns out they have a lot more self respect and common decency than Fred, who knew?

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  9. Re:Conservatives hate Fred Phelps by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    God damn Fred Phelps.

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  10. Link to Policy and University Clarification by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    http://doit.niu.edu/doit/polic...

    Using the resources for political activities, including organizing or participating in any political meeting, rally, demonstration, soliciting contributions or votes, distributing material, surveying or polling for information connected to a political campaign, completing political surveys or polling information, and any other activities prohibited under the ethics act and/or other state/federal laws.

    Emphasis mine, and this makes sense from a CYA perspective. The next one though it bizarre:

    Use of personal social media sites, following specific direction to cease or not utilize university equipment or time to an extent or during time periods that would interfere with professional responsibilities, including, but not limited to

    ??? - can somebody explain what the heck this means. Oh wait, next link.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

    That only applies to employees. I think that's where the confusion is. Students -- unless they are an employee

    Sorry, this was a poorly planned, executed and communicated rollout. Sounds like a new position for Vice President of IT will be opening for a major university soon...

    1. Re:Link to Policy and University Clarification by presidenteloco · · Score: 1

      Prohibited: "political activities, including organizing or participating in any political meeting, rally, demonstration, soliciting contributions or votes, distributing material, surveying or polling for information connected to a political campaign, completing political surveys or polling information"

      Let's face it, this is fascist bullshit.

      Screams to be ignored, and, of course subverted by surreptitiously using the accounts of university administrators to send out the political information.

      And of course, there's always the good old pasting notices on lampposts and walls. Back in the day, we used a subversive communication system called a "phone tree" for organizing protest rallies.

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  11. You cannot be surprised? by hackus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone who is stupid enough to pay a University via a banker to become "institutionalized" deserves exactly what they get.

    In the age of the internet, if you have to pay someone to sit you in a room and teach you like a trained monkey you have serious problems that go way beyond education.

    Universities are sort of like the last DINO's that hung around after the big rock thing from the sky happened. In this case the rock is the formation of the modern internet.

    I would pay about $500 bucks for a Bachelors degree, max for the outside chance a University actually provided something I can't do myself with a Internet connection.

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    1. Re:You cannot be surprised? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In the age of the internet, if you have to pay someone to sit you in a room and teach you like a trained monkey you have serious problems that go way beyond education.

      I'll actually say that's quite wrong. At least it is for me anyways. I actually learned networking from the Cisco Network Academy at my local community college. The teachers there combined their literally decades of field experience with Cisco's curriculum, and I can honestly say just from that alone I probably know more than some of the people I've worked with in the past who themselves have been in their jobs for decades, and are where they are from learning it the way you describe...in fact some of the things I've seen some people do wrong are just downright scary from a security perspective.

      Now if you want to make that argument about typical schools with high tuition rates, there's a ring of truth to it. I don't know why, but I often find that the more people spend on their education, the worse it is. There are outliers of course, but it tends to be the rule that if you paid a lot for your education, then you paid too much.

    2. Re:You cannot be surprised? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      In the age of the internet, if you have to pay someone to sit you in a room and teach you like a trained monkey you have serious problems that go way beyond education.

      I went to college to meet chicks.

    3. Re:You cannot be surprised? by BlueStrat · · Score: 1

      In the age of the internet, if you have to pay someone to sit you in a room and teach you like a trained monkey you have serious problems that go way beyond education.

      I went to college to meet chicks.

      "If you want to to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to the library." - Frank Zappa

      "Where's the college library?"

      Strat

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    4. Re:You cannot be surprised? by Mitchell314 · · Score: 2

      Which is why I want my doctors to be solely educated by google! And the folks who build the planes and cars I ride in.

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    5. Re:You cannot be surprised? by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      I actually found that doing my CCNA at one the physical cisco academy's very usefully having 20 routers and switches to play with makes the course so much easier. I even went in on my day off and did some additional experiments to get to the bottom of some OSFP strangeness. And to pass you have to be able to fix a real broken network

    6. Re:You cannot be surprised? by mjwalshe · · Score: 1

      You go to uni for more than just that and do you have the hardware required to do a physics or other stem degree in your garage.

    7. Re:You cannot be surprised? by Sciath · · Score: 1

      Like some southern red necked female hog said, "Ain't no law a'gine be'n stupid." Anyone can "self medicate" with over-the-counter remedies (i.e. Wikipedia, etc). Understanding is an altogether different horse. And a big part of that comes from the education, personal experience with instructors and rigorous academic structure of a higher education. Unless you insist upon proclaiming yourself another "Einstein", or savant. But even Einstein had a higher education. And savants are only geniuses in one or two subjects while being socially maladjusted. The hypothesis that one can become an expert in something without supervised education is pure hubris for it ignores other aspects of education that one cannot experience on a error prone superhighway without signals, traffic control, etiquette, speed limits, etc.

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  12. Never heard of it by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 1

    I guess this is why this fine academic institution has never crossed my radar. I have never heard it mentioned in any publication, any citation, any contest win. I am not saying that they don't publish squat but that nothing they have published managed to catch my attention. And when I read something in Nature, etc I will check to see which institution the various authors are from to mentally compile a list of intellectually active institutions.

    So as far as I can tell this place is the intellectual opposite of say, MIT.

  13. Could someone please explain to me by PJ6 · · Score: 3, Informative

    exactly what is "illegal or unethical" about the content of the Wikipedia article on the Westboro Baptist Church?

    1. Re:Could someone please explain to me by CurryCamel · · Score: 1

      Perhaps we are looking at this the wrong way round?
      Could it be that their intention was to block all of SoMe, politics and wikipedia, to allow students to concentrate, discourage c&p homework, and to encourage students to think for themselves?
      The "think of the children, block the pr0n" is just a cover.

  14. vote with your wallet by mindcandy · · Score: 1

    Universities (including the public ones) are a business like any other and are highly sensitive to voting with one's wallet.

    At the one I work at we actually go to great lengths *not* to monitor, record, or police what students do beyond what's needed to keep the peace.
    we also invite students to bring their game consoles in after major releases so we can fine tune stuff to ensure decent latency.

    tl;dr somebody is having power trip there and/or just bought a shiny new piece of oppressionware and checked all the boxes.

  15. If the entire student body... by istartedi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the entire student body doesn't shut down the school, or at least picket the office and generate some arrests, they should be horribly ashamed.

    At the University of Virginia, the Board of Visitors fired the president in an unwarranted way. Student protest helped get her reinstated. If student action can do that, I'm pretty sure it can get such an absurd policy overturned. You just have to have the brains to recognize it, and the balls to pursue it.

    Anyway, shame on the students if this is allowed to stand.

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    1. Re:If the entire student body... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If the entire student body doesn't shut down the school, or at least picket the office and generate some arrests, they should be horribly ashamed.

      In a situation like this there are so many people complicit in intellectual censorship that the only way to deal with it and maintain the school's reputation is to have a special investigator find everybody who signed off on it, everybody who could have objected, and everybody who was complicit and did not specifically and provably object to it, and fire them for cause. Then fire everybody who tries to cover it up and impede the investigation.

      I sure wouldn't send my kid there given the current leadership. Tweaking any one policy will leave the same anti-intellectual stooges in control of the school. There's either a strong pro-intellectual signal sent or the status quo remains.

      So, what's the Board of Trustees' position on this? Typically they don't want to rock any boats and do nothing about such incidents - they love to get wined and dined, collect a stipend, and rubber stamp administrative decisions while occasionally approving a hire of a search firm to find a new President. The old days of active Trustees are nearly extinguished.

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    2. Re:If the entire student body... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      No, one way to handle it is to form an investigative committee to research the problem and bring back the recommendation to open up the internet. (The specific recommendation is the unwritten part of the committee charter.) This is a University, you realize (and firing tenured faculty "for cause" is neither easy nor risk-free).

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  16. I'm wondering about protocol by Voyager529 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    According to one of the comments in TFA, https:/// worked fine, so they were only blocking HTTP. This leaves all the other suspects to their devices - the cornucopia of IM clients, VPN traffic, torrent traffic, usenet, diaspora/retroshare, in-game discussion via Steam or Second Life, IRC, etc. Sure, some of those are summarily blocked, but it seems they're doing such a poor job of acting in malice that I'd deem it sufficient to chalk the issue up to incompetence instead.

    1. Re:I'm wondering about protocol by tommeke100 · · Score: 1

      exactly.
      When you're blocking everything, you're blocking nothing.
      Instead of having a clear view of what was on the mind of students, these students will now use anonymous proxies, vpn , tor and the like to still access this content.
      In turn, the university will have lost control or at least oversight of what the students were actually accessing.

  17. Not according to the AUP by s.petry · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if you read the article and checked the block page screen shot, I did. The University spokesperson stated that it was not a block and the student could log in. The image has no option to bypass or go to a next step, it's a block.

    Next, the spokesperson claimed that the policy only applied to staff at the University. Reading their AUP there is no such restriction to staff, and in fact the first paragraph includes students. Northern Illinois University information technology resources, including the electronic communications network (NIUnet) on the NIU campus and off-campus education and research centers, computers attached to this network, and any associated computational resource or service are for the use of persons affiliated with Northern Illinois University, including faculty, staff, emeritus personnel, and students in good standing. Emphasis mine.

    The spokesperson may have been confused (or simply dishonest) as later in the same paragraph a justification mentions employee ethics as a "justification", not an inclusion or exclusion. Information technology resources are provided by the university to further the university's mission of research, instruction, and public service. The use of these resources should be consistent with this mission, this policy, and the University’s other use, security policies, and other applicable regulations including the State Officials and Employees Ethics Act (SOEEA). Again, emphasis is mine.

    The AUP is not legaleze, and can be read and interpreted without much difficulty.

    Sure, it's possible there was a network F*ck up or something else which cause the student to receive the block. That said, if the student agreed to this AUP the University is within their rights. I have modified numerous customer facing AUPs, they are always reviewed and approved by legal before consumption. If the University claimed to have released this AUP "on accident" or "with accidental content" I would call bullshit.

    If their intent was not to censor content for students, the AUP needs to be scrapped and re-written to exclude students from the policy. Obviously they also need to correct their censoring software to exclude student computers and networks and ensure that it's only censoring content for faculty.

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  18. What better place to suppress thought by gelfling · · Score: 1

    Than a college campus. Good Job and All Hail

  19. Why are they censoring in this way? by matbury · · Score: 1

    The question is why? What do they hope to achieve with this kind of censorship. I can understand wanting to censor sites that promote and enable illegal activities. I can understand K-12 schools trying to censor porn and violence (doesn't work but at least trying keep parents happy, BTW). So what do they hope to achieve with blocking Wikipedia and other sites? What's their intended outcome? And if they're blocking individual pages, who's combing through the entire internet and deciding what to allow and disallow and how are they deciding it? (Abviously not volunteers from Westboro Baptist Church).

    BTW, are they also blocking TOR and encrypted proxies? Are they preventing students from using their own mobile connections? Can't see how this will achieve anything other than generating suspicion ill-will and contempt for the university's leadership.

  20. Academic freedom by liamoohay · · Score: 1

    This position that the university has taken will have definite chilling effects on academic freedom. It is clearly inconsistent with their mission as a research university, and I sincerely hope they reconsider this policy.

  21. who owns the campus internet? by JimNoord · · Score: 1

    Guess it depends on who "owns" the internet access at niu. Prsumably this only pertains to university computers so 3g and 4g devices are unaffected. The question then is whether students should be allowed to use privately funded internet access by basically renters or tenants. Most private business have internet policys. Dont see the damages here.