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Ask Slashdot: Robotics or Electronic Kits For Wounded Veterans?

An anonymous reader writes I am currently a combat veteran in the care of the VA Hospital. A lot of veterans here suffer from PTSD and other injuries related to combat and trauma. As part of the healing process, the VA finds it good that we take up hobbies such as art or music, and they supply us kits and stuff to put together and paint. This is great, but many of us younger veterans have an interest in robotics and electronics. Do you know of some good and basic robotic and electronic kits that can be ordered or donated to Veterans out there? Any information would be appreciated.

115 comments

  1. Here you go... by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    adafruit and Sparkfun.

    Contact them and ask. otherwise those are the places to buy from.

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    Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
    1. Re:Here you go... by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, arduino type hardwares, breadboards, and a host of related parts like actuators and leds would provide an endless set of options, and be re-useable.

      A great idea, one that could probably find a lot of funding support.

    2. Re:Here you go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Jameco also has robotics and electronics kits for various levels of skill.

    3. Re:Here you go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or they were lied to by a "true believer" recruiter, weren't raised to think independently, were ill-informed about their choices, wanted to stick it to mommy and daddy, or got in before 9/11 and suddenly got ordered to a shithole country, on pain of criminal charges or military imprisonment.

      See? It's really easy to paint a diverse group of people in a positive or negative light, such that it promotes your own viewpoint, and the reality is always more varied than anyone with an agenda wants to admit.

    4. Re:Here you go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back to your bridge Troll!

    5. Re:Here you go... by plasticpixel · · Score: 1

      Shameless plug..... http://robot-army.com/ A fun to build Dancing Delta Robot Kit

    6. Re:Here you go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My friends in the service are not dumb jar heads. They all know exactly what is going on, better than you in fact since they are actually there.

    7. Re:Here you go... by LVSlushdat · · Score: 0

      Why would I expect any different from an AC? ... You're a fuckin' jackass, AC... I want to thank the OP for his service, and echo the adafruit and sparkfun.. If you're interested in robotics, electronics and the like, they're the places to look for ideas/parts...

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      THANK YOU, Edward Snowden!! Americans owe you a debt of gratitude (whether they know it or not..)
    8. Re:Here you go... by LVSlushdat · · Score: 0

      I swear you AC's all have such big balls to make such outlandish comments when you are cloaked in anonomity.. Try putting your NAME on when you run your mouth off like that...

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      THANK YOU, Edward Snowden!! Americans owe you a debt of gratitude (whether they know it or not..)
    9. Re:Here you go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If they're too pricey, try GearBest.
      I ordered a dozen or so arduinos off of them for cheap.
      They also have sensor kits cheaper than amazon.

    10. Re:Here you go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No argument that the GP is a coward, but anonymity has nothing to do with that. Besides, his comment wouldn't have been any less stupid or more valid had he added a cute little Internet nickname to it - or even his real legal name.

    11. Re:Here you go... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jameco also has robotics and electronics kits for various levels of skill.

      these are jarheads you're talkin about here. and they were dumb enough to volunteer. and theyre dumb enough to think killing iraqis is protecting freedom. even after the dumb masses figured out the WMDs were a lie.

      br
      so thatd be "low" level of skill sir.

      A jarhead is a US Marine.
      How do you know that they are Marines?

    12. Re:Here you go... by Renaissance+Slacker · · Score: 1

      I must be missing the part where the Army brass asks each soldier about their personal feelings regarding a mission. For want of a batter word, soldiers are brainwashed: trained to obey orders, to kill without remorse, and a violent military culture reinforces this. Soldiers obey orders, and the punishments for refusing are severe. You want to blame somebody? Blame the asshole chickenhawks in Congress who get a sweaty boner at the thought of blowing up foreigners, and who shitcanned the economy so a military career is the only route out of poverty for a lot of people.

    13. Re:Here you go... by quenda · · Score: 1

      My friends in the service are not dumb jar heads. They all know exactly what is going on, better than you in fact since they are actually there.

      So they knew what was happening and chose to join in anyway? That makes it worse. There is so much blood on their hands, and I'm afraid we still have not seen the worst of it.

  2. Lego by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Lego Mindstorm kit is fairly good for entry level robotics (by default programmed in a drag and drop GUI) and can be modded to take C or Java code as well.

    They are a little pricey but you can share sensors and motors if you have enough connections on your controller.

    Good stuff, I used them for my college AI class (it was required material for the class)

    1. Re:Lego by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      The Lego Mindstorm kit is fairly good for entry level robotics

      I second this. If you are a beginner, Mindstorms is a great place to start. I coach a robotics club, and even 3rd and 4th graders can program the default GUI. The 5th and 6th graders use a Scratch interface, and some of the more advanced kids have moved on to C (actualy NXC or Not eXactly C). The older kids are also working to add their own sensors and actuators, using thermistors, photo diodes, LEDs, mini motors, etc. Although kids can use it, there is plenty to challenge an adult.

      They are a little pricey

      Yes, they are pricey, but so are the alternatives. If your budget is tight, you can pick up a cheap NXT on eBay. Lots of people are upgrading to EV3 and selling their old kits.

  3. A few thoughts. by john.r.strohm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Lego Mindstorm comes immediately to mind, as it gets you DOING things with robots rather than getting bogged down in implementation. (The informal motto of the Dallas Personal Robotics Group at one time was "It's harder than it looks!", and they weren't kidding.)

    Heathkit keeps talking about making a comeback, but I'm in an "I'll believe it when I see it" mood these days.

    Ramsey Electronics has a LOT of kits. Most of them require basic soldering skills. However, they do sell some electronic experimenters kits, that don't require soldering.

  4. RedBot, Elecraft by dbc · · Score: 2

    SparkFun RedBot
    The Arduino Robot
    Just plain old Arduino, RasPi, etc hackery.
    For the radio minded, Elecraft has some cool ham radio kits.

    1. Re:RedBot, Elecraft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Elecraft transceiver kits are very cool indeed, but also run way north of a thousand bucks. There are plenty of inexpensive, radio-oriented kits available from obscure companies. Suggestions: a) contact the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) for information on vendors of amateur radio kits, and also for contacts with local ham radio clubs, which are sure to include hams who like to build their own equipment. Also, find a makerspace nearby and ask for help learning to solder. If kids can learn to solder at science fiction conventions, then for vets, it should be a snap.

      Some of the other replies are career-oriented. Building radios or other electronic gadgets can be quite satisfying, but has little job training potential.

    2. Re:RedBot, Elecraft by LVSlushdat · · Score: 1

      I did time in Vietnam in the 70s, and since I'd worked during my tour as a MARS station operator, and I'd always been interested in radio, I got my ham license soon after I got out of the service.. It helped me to land a position as an electronics tech with a government contractor, and then after a large layoff, migrated to fixing the -then-new- personal computers. Been doing that since, and only just retired about 4 years ago.. Bottom line: ham radio is a relaxing hobby, in my opinion

      K7DGF ex WA6QNW

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      THANK YOU, Edward Snowden!! Americans owe you a debt of gratitude (whether they know it or not..)
    3. Re:RedBot, Elecraft by dbc · · Score: 1

      I wasn't suggesting a high-end kit. Elecraft makes a lot of smaller kits other than the big transceivers.

    4. Re:RedBot, Elecraft by dbc · · Score: 1

      Well, so there are no jobs in wireless these days? I guess I'll have to tell that to all my friends that do cell tower site planning and engineering, or do tower rigging, or old-fashioned two-way and paging system maintenance. Or all those guys I know with RF design engineer jobs... I guess they are unemeplyed, too.... wonder how they are paying for their Tesla's?

  5. Sparkie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you want to start with a pre-built robot - Sparki is pretty good - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/arcbotics/sparki-the-easy-robot-for-everyone

    Arduino base
    Already assembled (you don't have to try to do that part)
    Modular

    Think of it as a prototype unit to play with before you try to build one yourself.

    Another great bit would be to build a 3D printer (e.g. Printrbot). Get's you the mechanical bits you crave along with a mid-level development platform, and robot that you can then use to build parts for your next robot.

    Point being, if you don't understand the mechanics, programming, and electronics grab a system that has those already done - then use those as stepping stones into areas you want to move into.

    Final thought - Thanks for your service!

    Everyone else, call your congressional rep and tell them these guys deserve the best we can give them! That's the least I can give to someone willing to get their arse shot off so I can be comfy and drive a desk 9-5.

  6. Lego Mindstorm! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great robotics set for you and your (inner?) kid. :-)

  7. In San Diego? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If you are in San Diego and combat wounded there are opportunities for you to get out of the hospital and intern at a local government lab to learning robotics. Ask your transition coordinator.

  8. Another good one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check this one...

    www.tetrixrobotics.com

  9. solarbotics.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Adafruit and Sparkfun get a number of their kits from Solarbotics (solarbotics.com). May as well go straight to the source.

  10. Huh? Really? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 0

    Why would they require anything different than any other electronics "discovery" kit? I mean, are we talking about guys with no hands so the kit needs to be prosthetic friendly? Or maybe it needs to be a kit that can not be used to make an IED?

    Serious question, what does PTSD or whatever have anything to do with this question?

    Anyway, it's a sad sad thing that HeathKit no longer exists...

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  11. Alternate models by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    usrockets.com

  12. I would not mind wasting some of my time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am not sure if you would be interested, but I would not mind to wasting couple hours on weekends teaching you a bit on how to program.
    (I was one of the guy who planned Fort Belvoir military hospital in VA and bunch of my friends went through the war.)

  13. Science Museum kits by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure who makes them, but they do look like a lot of fun for the dextrously inclined (I prefer Basic-compatible LEGO and traditional steel Meccano), and the end result is usually something that walks, beeps, rolls and/or shoots soft projectiles.

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  14. Wounded Warrior Cyber Combat Academy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Not entirely about robotics, but if you like tech and if you're over at Walter Reed, you should check out the Wounded Warrior Cyber Combat Academy (http://w2cca.org/) if you're looking for something to keep your mind occupied and are interested in technology, and especially security. The w2cca folks basically help train you for a cybersecurity job after you get out, and the training is really nuts-to-bolts (starting with basic hardware/software and moving on). Great team, and very focused on the mission and those they're serving. Doesn't hurt that it's also been endorsed by Gen Alexander. So, you can rehab and build skill for the future at the same time. Even if you're not at Walter Reed, it might be worth reaching out to them: I know they're working on setting up similar programs at some of the other VA hospitals.

  15. PyroEDU For Learning About Electronics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can follow some beginning electronics (analog/digital/microcontroller) courses: http://www.pyroelectro.com/edu/

    The kits for the courses are available (for a reasonable price) at http://gadgetory.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=66

  16. Vex by blueshift_1 · · Score: 3, Informative
    I really enjoyed the vex robotics kits. They are bit pricy, but are more substantial alternative to the lego mindstorms (which are also quite good). Just another option. They have a basic toolkit to do some autonomous routines but also have the ability to do remote controlled. And lots of sensors and goodies. I used them at a robotics camp at ORNL about 8 years ago. They aren't great for more industrial style robotics, but a neat project to do more advanced erector set style learning/expermenting I though it was most excellent.

    http://goo.gl/JlX692 Link to the standard vex kit.

    Also, there are endless projects with arduino, but it's naturally a bit more technical. So I guess it depends a lot on skill level with electronics programming.

    So I'd probably say Lego for the truly basic beginner, Vex for some prior knowledge but wanting a bit more robust system. And then for the well experienced arduino.

    1. Re:Vex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could start with LEGO and then add TETRIX for less than VEX and a much better option. Coming from having tested both and sent VEX back.

    2. Re:Vex by dowsell · · Score: 1

      Assuming you're dealing with a bunch of young males and have some basic workshop facilities I'd consider getting a) Plenty of sheet steel b) Some medium power DC motors with rubber wheels c) Some robust lead-acid battery packs & chargers d) Some RC controllers with drive modules to match the DC motors e) Four standard chassis welded up from steel tube, say A3 size, 4" high Yep, anyone for team robot wars?? Start off with a chalked circle as an arena. Leave the circle, you lose. I'd guess setup costs would be around $1000, mostly on motors and RC equipment. Running costs would depend on how 'committed' the players become.

  17. Botball by tiberus · · Score: 1

    I'd startup a conversation with these folks www.botball.org. My son and several of his friends have participated and it was a great experience for them. While the kits are a pricey, the setup they use for competition isn't. Once you have the kits it shouldn't take that much effort to let the vets do their own thing or even organize botball-esque events within the VA.

    CPL
    U.S Army
    1985-1990
    Medical Hold
    1989-1990

  18. Love our brave vets by satan666 · · Score: 1

    I have a nice suggestion for you. Get a beagleboard (beagleboard.org)
    Use it to learn Linux and linux programming.
    Also use it to learn Android. Write yourself an Android app.

    Guess what? You can get a really, really good job. In the NYC
    market, Android devs start at 75k.

    Cost:

    beagleboard plus accessories: $100.
    6 months of learning.

    That's it. Good luck.

  19. SnapCircuits and RobotShop by RobinH · · Score: 1

    I don't know if this is too beginner level, but I think it's worth a mention: Snap Circuits. It's kind of like those old learn electronics kits with the spring connectors, but in this case they snap together with magnets. I would think if you went through all the kits you would learn all the basics pretty quickly, and then you'll be more comfortable moving on to the arduinos, etc.

    Also checkout RobotShop for more advanced stuff.

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    "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
    1. Re:SnapCircuits and RobotShop by unimacs · · Score: 1

      If you have a small workspace, limited dexterity (find it hard to strip wires and shove the ends to small holes), and are just starting out in electronics, Snap Circuits are great.

      Lego Mindstorms are good for understanding the basics of robotics and to a certain degree programming but out of the box don't teach a lot about electronics.

      If you have some programming experience and at least a basic knowledge of electronics then Arduinos are a lot of fun but I think a lot would depend on the kind of facilities a VA Hospital would have for working on electronics. You would need a computer, a reasonably sized work surface, a place to store components, a soldering iron would be really nice to have, along with a set of tools like small screw drivers, wire strippers/cutters, etc.

  20. Need a Computer and... by under_score · · Score: 1

    For a lot of robotics work you need to be able to install software on the computer. Not sure if that would be a problem or not, but Arduino and Lego both require good access to the computer. Something like a Raspberry Pi or Oodo which is already a computer itself might be a better starting point if there are restrictions on accessing a host computer.

  21. Re:Solution looking for a problem by rotorbudd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These are WOUNDED veterans.
    That means they were injured trying to help preserve your right to be a complete asshole.

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    A bullet may have your name on it, but artillery is addressed to " Whom It May concern"
  22. Re:Solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should probably take some writing classes at your local CC. You sound like an idiot.
    Also, as far as entitled and self-absorbed - I think you best look in the mirror, mate.

    You lack any integrity to compromise.

  23. Re:Solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gee, I have a medical problem, and I like widget. I know you should use gadget to treat medical problem, but I want to use widget. Can you give me widget for this?

    You're looking at PTSD. The Zen guys have a discount for veterans. Mind you, veterans are the most entitled, self-absorbed, over-worshiped segment of our society; but this is medical treatment for people with a medical condition. I don't mind being helpful, but I don't want to compromise the integrity of my social position on the topic of veterans by appearing concerned because they're specifically veterans.

    What the hell are you trying to say?

  24. Amateur (Ham) Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Amateur (Ham) Radio is a great hobby and community for veterans. It provides opportunities for those who just want to talk to others around the world all the way to those who want to work on the leading edge of electronics and communications technology. Public service is a major purpose of Amateur Radio too. I'm sure veterans who contact the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) at http://arrl.org will find something interesting and rewarding.

  25. Jameco has a ton of them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jameco has a ton of them from very basic to Pi and Arduino type stuff. From basic electrical theories to complex robotics.

  26. Why not Build Musical Instruments, too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://BuildInstruments.com
    There's a collection of acoustic, electronic, digital instrument kits as well as guitar pedals, amplifiers, etc.!
    Acoustic = guitar, banjo, bass, electronics are moog synths and theremins. there are tube kits, transistors,
    everything.

  27. Electronics by Bodhammer · · Score: 1

    https://www.radioshack.com/pro...
    Parallax has a nice kit that works with a Arduino. http://www.parallax.com/robots...

    Thank you for your service!

    --
    "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
    1. Re:Electronics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Radioshack kit might definitely be a place to start the basic basics. Also good because there is no soldering which would be problematic in a hospital setting. Tho in general I personally avoid Radioshack unless I absolutely positively need a component today and there is literally no other alternative. They just always seem to be under stocked and over priced imho.

      I pretty much feel the same way about parallax in general, tho the propeller chip is rather interesting and affordable. The Basic Stamp on the other hand has always struck me as seriously overpriced and seriously underpowered. Most of their kits also seem to be on the extreme steep side for what they offer,gain imho.

      For a better bank for the buck I'd look more towards Arduino, Pick up an Arduino projects manual, a Tamiya gear box or two, some mini breadboards and misc bulk discrete components.

  28. Welcome by McLae · · Score: 5, Informative
    The Texas Northern Model Railroad Club is always looking for new members.

    Many of our members are veterans (Lots of fun stories there!)

    I will donate a rail car kit to the first 5 veterans who come by for a visit and Asks for Thomas.

    Our web site is: http://www.modelrailroadclub.o...

    Meetings are Thursday nights.

  29. Connected Warrior Foundation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I ran across a pick-up truck emblazoned (it was actually very tastefully done) with "advertising" for this non-profit while in Annapolis a few weeks back. Seems that their charter at least touches on what you're after: "Our charter is to fund projects and programs and support activities that successfully empower wounded veterans, improving their quality of life by keeping them connected to their families, friends, community and the world." They seem to focus pretty heavily on the technology side of things (including handing out Google Nexus tablets, and Iris helobots) so it might not hurt to connect with them to see if they have any resources they could offer. http://www.connectedwarrior.org/contact-form/index.php

  30. Pitch this to the VA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.sparkfun.com/products/12643

    It should fit neatly into their programs and it's low cost. Needs a few Rigol scopes and other doodads of course. But $5k should setup a very nice intro level program that would help vets decide if they wanted to pursue engineering degrees. Also be a good job for a vet w/ an electronics MOS to help staff it.

  31. If they're at ALL interested in electronics... by MindPrison · · Score: 1

    ...then it's actually a GREAT way to forget bad things in the past. The best thing in the world you can do for the wounded mind is to occupy it with something interesting and challenging to do, at least something pleasing and rewarding.

    I've built one of the biggest electronics labs I've personally ever seen, not even the technical schools I've visited can match it, and I have to admit...just the building process itself (you know, getting the parts off eBay, the local flea markets, ham-fest, local radio amateurs and electronics stores that are closing down and selling out) is a lot of fun, in fact - to me...it's downright addictive.

    I've had some seriously though times in my life, more than I care to mention here - and I think both the electronics lab (and being a Christian) has literally saved my life many times over. There is nothing so soothing to my mind than to be able to safely close my lab-doors, sit down in front of my huge stash of millions and millions of brand new components acquired for pocket-cash (really petty cash!) - knowing...I could literally build a time machine in there.

    Away from people, away from messy interfering thoughts, away from everything that's bad. Just ME and pure science. I love it. Nothing like it in this world (to me).
    So yes, by ALL means get into electronics, it is SO rewarding.

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    What this world is coming to - is for you and me to decide.
  32. USB to pin out by Pro923 · · Score: 1

    I was trying to do some robotics... I could not find ANYTHING that would help me put together the mechanical aspect of the whole thing. As far as I got was buying the (I think it was 10 bucks) USB board from radio shack that you solder together. It lets you control pretty much anything from simple PC software. Actually, even with an EE degree (which I haven't used in 23 years), there was a bit of a learning curve with wiring up the output pins to relays in order to get anything to actually work, but when it did - man was that a blast (for a geek type). I took the kids' old battery controlled car that they used to drive around the driveway in and turned it into a robot... well, OK, it could only go forward and backwards at full speed - but it was cool!

  33. Some DIY websites for electronics... by bswarm · · Score: 1
  34. How to connect kit makers to the vets... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm an electronics kit maker getting ready to go to Kickerstarter to raise funds to expand our kit.
    I *was* thinking that we should do a gift level where a kit would go to the person donating, and one to a school, but perhaps sending kits this direction might be more helpful. The catch is I'm not sure how to connect the "gift" kits to the veterans who might appeciate them.

    Suggestions?

  35. Re:Solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Perhaps. More likely wounded trying to implement American foreign policy abroad.

  36. Re:Solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    No, they were injured trying to help preserve your government's right to be a complete asshole.

  37. Arduino ++ by wirelessdreamer · · Score: 1

    I highly reccomend the Arduino. Its inexpensive, easy to interface with, has tons of online support, and examples of how to us most modules work by just connecting a few wires. For all the kids that wanted to grow up and be a mad scientist, this is the solution. Think, Design, Build, Enjoy.

  38. Re:Solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mind you, veterans are the most entitled, self-absorbed, over-worshiped segment of our society
     
    Yeah, the men and women who make less than most McDonalds managers while risking life and limb for their country certainly are the most entitle, self-absorbed, whatever....
     
    I'm guessing you haven't looked into the world of celebrity, politics and professional sport? Or what about the millions of able-bodied do-nothings who live off the taxpayer's teat? Those folks aren't entitled, are they?

  39. Re:Solution looking for a problem by zAPPzAPP · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They were mostly wounded while killing, trying to kill, or assissting in killing other people (you know... combat).
    It is kind of a moot point discussing who the 'good guys' are in a war. However usually it is soldiers on both sides. A soldiers saving grace may be, that they are acting under orders and have limited choice in the matter.
    However for the same reason I do not see a point why they should have a priviliged status.

    All things conssidered they rank pretty low on my sympathy list.
    Certainly much lower than a wounded cop for example, who was fighting actual criminals and certainly lower than people who were simply the victim of an accident or violence.

  40. Shapeoko CNC kit? by WillAdams · · Score: 1

    http://www.shapeoko.com/

    It can be easily configured as a 3D printer, so would be suited for use in-doors w/o hearing protection: http://www.shapeoko.com/wiki/i...

    Assembly instructions here: http://docs.shapeoko.com/

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    Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
  41. Smart phone powered mini rover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The mini dragon rover from Qualcomm might be an option. https://www.qualcomm.com/invention/research/projects/robotics/micro-rover

  42. From a former tech and teacher by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't go wrong with these two items...

    http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3433933

    http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=28733516

    Many technicians and engineers got their start this way. If you want to go robotics later, you'll have the electronic theory to go with it.

    1. Re:From a former tech and teacher by zipslack · · Score: 1

      Been so many years, I forgot to login first... Forgot to mention that this stuff can be used for years. Amazing how many techs and engineers I used to know that had this book on their shelf as a quick reference. Also, if you can find any of the old Howard Mims electronics books that were originally written for Radio Shack, get them.

  43. Re:Solution looking for a problem by apraetor · · Score: 2

    The soldiers do what their chain-of-command orders them to do. If you don't like it, then elect a Commander-in-Chief who will do something different.

  44. How about an on-line class? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I second AdaFruit and Sparkfun as excellent sources for electronics kits and components (though it is mostly AdaFruit kits that I have built - all excellent). Lego Mindstorm is fun too (I was a FIRST Lego League coach for four years) AND you can do some really sophisticated stuff with them. Robotics yes, but not really electronics.

    As an old Air Force guy (3 years active duty and 6 years in the Air Guard - all a long time ago - long before 911), a ham, and a Make Magazine contributor, I'd be happy to put something together and host a web based arduino-electronics class for any group of vets that is interested in this. Besides an Arduino and the kits/components, vets will need access to a computer and a soldering station set-up. A syllabus might go something like this:

    1. Arduino basics - blinky project.
    2. Simple Ardunio breadboard project. Something like controlling the flash rate of a LED with a potentiometer or a temperature sensor or run time.
    3. Soldering basics (with one of the learn to solder kits).
    4. Build an Ardiuno Shield (maybe a motor controller board or something else of interest).
    5. Build something interesting with the motors.
    6. Onwards and upwards.

    Class could be a weekly short "lecture" followed by Q&A, demonstrations, etc. I think the first class should be quite small to see how it goes.

    My favorite thing about Arduino is, when you learn how to program an Arduino, you are really learning how to program in C. OK, C is old hat but there sure is a ton of embedded development still going on in C. Not a bad skill to pick up from your hobby.

    Leave a comment or contact me here: dan AT retro-tronics dot com if interested. I might not be the best qualified to do this but I am willing and able to do it. Maybe there are others out there interested in working on something like this as well.

    Aim High!
    Anonymous Coward Dan

  45. Re:Solution looking for a problem by LVSlushdat · · Score: 2

    Jesus Christ, I wish I had mod points to MOD YOU DOWN!! These people you dismiss as "low on your sympathy list" risked life/limb and put their personal lives on hold for however many years to PROTECT YOUR SKANKY ASS... People like you make me sick to my stomach... Feel free to put me on your foes list.. Rest assured I've put YOU on mine..(along with a bunch of others who have posted in this thread)...

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  46. Building and using a 3D printer would be cool! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've built Kossel/Delta 3D printers for about $500, and then the really cool thing is designing and printing things with it.
    Vets could even experiment with printing and fitting their own prosthetics and potentially serve themselves better and save the VA a ton of money.

  47. Re:Solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They don't do it to protect me. They do it to pay for college, travel on the government dime, meet interesting people, and shoot them.

  48. Re:Solution looking for a problem by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 0

    You are so wrong, it is amazing.
    The USA where not under any thread since the attack on Pearl Habour.
    The veterans you talk about where running around in the world killing people, for what ever reason.
    They certainly did not protect or safe a single american ass, perhaps they protected my German ass, but that is a complete different matter.

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  49. Re: Mod parent up please by fhage · · Score: 1

    Someone with mod points please take a look.

  50. Lego by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2 Comments:

    1: Thank you for serving. Just remember that you and other soldiers like yourself (myself included) sacrificed their rights, in order to protect the rights of the people that are taking to this board to incite hate. People like that will never understand all that went into giving them the right to say what they want to say without fear of repercussion. They will never understand the fear of censorship, and while the vocal minority may speak the loudest, take heart in knowing that you've also protected the rights of those who only speak when thoughts need to be expressed for the betterment of their fellow citizens.

    2: The Lego Mindstorm Kits are amazing. Fun to play with, compatable with all Lego kits, (which makes for some wacky inventions), and very educational. The drag and drop interface lets you do plenty, but once you link the controller up with bluetooth, and start playing with the actual programming languages, the real potential is unlocked.

  51. #1 Thank You, #2 Lego Mindstorm by imprttuner2 · · Score: 1

    Didn't realize that I was posting Anon... 2 Comments: 1: Thank you for serving. Just remember that you and other soldiers like yourself (myself included) sacrificed their rights, in order to protect the rights of the people that are taking to this board to incite hate. People like that will never understand all that went into giving them the right to say what they want to say without fear of repercussion. They will never understand the fear of censorship, and while the vocal minority may speak the loudest, take heart in knowing that you've also protected the rights of those who only speak when thoughts need to be expressed for the betterment of their fellow citizens. 2: The Lego Mindstorm Kits are amazing. Fun to play with, compatable with all Lego kits, (which makes for some wacky inventions), and very educational. The drag and drop interface lets you do plenty, but once you link the controller up with bluetooth, and start playing with the actual programming languages, the real potential is unlocked.

    1. Re:#1 Thank You, #2 Lego Mindstorm by vux984 · · Score: 1

      1: Thank you for serving. Just remember that you and other soldiers like yourself (myself included) sacrificed their rights, in order to protect the rights of the people that are taking to this board to incite hate.

      Funny that when its police, its nothing but cops with power complexes abusing their position. Fascist pigs who close ranks to protect their own abuses, and all that.

      Or do you pipe up to tell us how they are they are the thin blue line putting their lives on the line to protect our freedoms from those who would commit crimes against us, take our things, harm us, force us to live in fear in our own homes...? No?

      But if its veterens? Well... all of them, each and every one, is the noblest hero putting his life on the line to protect our rights. Any suggestion that any soldier is anything less? That they might be dim, facsist, power/violence loving... forget that... those guys all work for the police.

      Just imagine a police officer who was also a veteran... could such a paradox even exist without imploding the universe?

      People like that will never understand all that went into giving them the right to say what they want to say without fear of repercussion.

      Comparing the ethics of the revolution to the invadion of Iraq etc? I certainly don't blame the veterans for the war in Iraq -- but nothing they did there did anything to preserve my freedom. They shouldn't have been sent there. Iraq posed no existential nor even significant threat to America. Nobody was there fighting for my right to speak freely.

      But yes, I agree with you 100% about lego mindstorms as place to get started, and even get pretty advanced.

    2. Re: #1 Thank You, #2 Lego Mindstorm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about Afgan veterans did they do anything to protect the country?

      Remember soldiers execute the will of the country. The obey the politicians elected by you. Not voting is still a decision.

      Is every veteran a hero no. But they deserve the the respect that doing the job entails. And if some of them would like to dabble in robots they should be able to do it without your self serving BS.

    3. Re:#1 Thank You, #2 Lego Mindstorm by imprttuner2 · · Score: 1

      Humanity always has it's dark side. Military, Police, Fire Department and Politics included. But only a small minded individual lumps all of the good people in with the bad. Are all Soldiers heros. Absolutely not. But I can tell you from personal experience, that those bad eggs would not be reaching out on a site like this for ways to better themselves either. There is no reason to attack the poster or myself for thanking the poster for his service. I take offense to the term Invasion of Iraq. I sat on the side of the road in Basrah and shared a bag of Skittles with a young girl, 6-7 years old. I shook her fathers hand, and received a hug from her mother. I had a very long conversation with the father. He told me of his Kurdish uncle that was executed in a mass burial pit. The people were happy to be rid of Saddam Hussein. He was a brutal and vicious dictator. Did we go in under the correct pretense, no. Did we attempt to do a good thing, yes. Did we have the appropriate follow through, no. Could we have done things better, of course. Hindsight is hindsight, and things can always be done or said differently.

    4. Re: #1 Thank You, #2 Lego Mindstorm by imprttuner2 · · Score: 1

      Why should the attacker or myself be attacked for being proud of our service, or even admitting to it. Nothing I said was self serving BS. I've been through PTSD counseling, and had many friends in trauma and recovery centers, and one thing I know is the doubt that can creep into the mind during recovery. What I was attempting to do was to reach out to a healing individual with encouragement, attempt to help motivate him, and offer some good advice on a robotics kit. With how much darkness and criticism that has been spewed in this thread, I thought that some light and hope would be appreciated, and hopefully was by the OP.

    5. Re:#1 Thank You, #2 Lego Mindstorm by vux984 · · Score: 1

      But only a small minded individual lumps all of the good people in with the bad.

      Or all the bad with the good.

      The purpose of my post was to contrast the perception of police and soldier. One is revered the other reviled, but they are in many respects much the same.

      We badmouth the police all the time, but anyone says anything even slightly negative about a soldier, and people come out of the woodwork, to fall over themselves to thank them for their service.

      That's all I intended to say. Its as much an attack on soldiers as it is a defense of the police. I really meant it as neither. I just find the contrast strange. Undeserved adulation heaped on soldiers... undeserved scorn heaped on police.

      I sat on the side of the road in Basrah and shared a bag of Skittles with a young girl, 6-7 years old

      How many more young girls were left orphans thanks to our presence there? By most scientific estimates, the civilian casualties of the Iraq war greatly exceeded the numbers of people ever killed by Saddam. Did we leave the country in better shape than we found it? Are fewer civilians dying of violence each year thanks to our actions there or has it gotten worse? ISIS is killing children and burying people alive... would ISIS be what it is today if we hadn't gone after Saddam?

      Its not the soldiers fault. I don't blame them. They go where they are sent and do what they are told.

      But don't try and tell me they are "fighting to defend my freedom from censorship" etc when we've sent them half way around the world to a country that never posed a real threat, whatsoever, even in the slightest to my freedom.

      EVEN if Saddam had nuclear weapons, EVEN if he had the ability to reach the continental US, hell... EVEN if he'd actually managed detonate one and level an American city, and as bad as that would suck beyond words, EVEN THEN with a smoking crater on the continental US, he STILL would have posed little threat to America itself, its ideals, independence, or its governance.

      Attacking Iraq, was so pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-pre-emptive to any real threat that you might as well pay the soldiers to sit in a swamp slapping mosquitos; and tell yourself your preventing an arnageddon plague, and thereby protecting my freedom.

      To those serving and served, I thank you for volunteering to that vocation, and for being willing to put your life on the line to defend our freedom. But at the same time, not every tour you actually are assigned is really in that capacity. Most aren't. They're political shows, protecting corporate money.

      I sometimes wonder how you really reconcile the work you are so frequently tasked with doing with the actual job of defending the country that you signed up for. Or do you really deep down believe that every tour is about American freedom?

    6. Re:#1 Thank You, #2 Lego Mindstorm by imprttuner2 · · Score: 1

      We badmouth the police all the time, but anyone says anything even slightly negative about a soldier

      I have never badmouthed a member of of law enforcement or any civil service. Please do not lump me in with "everyone". They do just to preserve and protect our freedoms as anyone else.

      ISIS is killing children and burying people alive... would ISIS be what it is today if we hadn't gone after Saddam?

      ISIS is a splintercell that has been cut off of support from Al Queda. Al Qaeda has publicly stated this. It was born of members that were based out of Syria, Iran and Iraq. I believe that if Saddam was still in power, that they would most likely be worse then they are now, because they Saddam regime would have politically aligned themselves with their cause, based on their Sunni background and hatred of the Kurdish sects in all Islamic Countries.

      By most scientific estimates, the civilian casualties of the Iraq war greatly exceeded the numbers of people ever killed by Saddam.

      The majority of civilian casualties happened outside of the primary conflict, and were instigated by the US trying to protect peaceful population centers from insurgent groups lead and funded by terrorist organizations. You cannot tell me that you believe that a random sheep farmer with no internet access has the capability of teaching himself how to build a IED or Suicide Vest. Insurgent groups were offering civilians large sums of money to carry "packages" and take pot shots at American troops or Iraqi's that were supporting the rebuilding efforts.

      To those serving and served, I thank you for volunteering to that vocation, and for being willing to put your life on the line to defend our freedom. But at the same time, not every tour you actually are assigned is really in that capacity. Most aren't.

      Often times our actions aren't to just protect the interests and Freedoms of just ourselves, but to help liberate the innocent from a tyrant as well...

    7. Re:#1 Thank You, #2 Lego Mindstorm by vux984 · · Score: 1

      ISIS is a splintercell that has been cut off of support from Al Queda. Al Qaeda has publicly stated this. It was born of members that were based out of Syria, Iran and Iraq

      All true.

      . I believe that if Saddam was still in power, that they would most likely be worse then they are now, because they Saddam regime would have politically aligned themselves with their cause,

      Assuming it would have existed as a significant entity in the first place. Which it wouldn't have. It would have just been some minor radical splinter with low membership, and no real influence.

      You used the phrase "born" when you described it. And that is an apt metaphor -- WE are one of its parents. We planted the seeds that enabled it to grow.

      You cannot tell me that you believe that a random sheep farmer with no internet access has the capability of teaching himself how to build a IED or Suicide Vest.

      Of course not. If we hadn't been there he'd still be farming sheep. And his sons would be learning to farm sheep instead of joining groups like ISIS.

      The majority of civilian casualties happened outside of the primary conflict,

      And they wouldn't have happened if we hadn't gone there. You can bleat they were not our "fault" all you like, and I agree we generally didn't go around killing civilians on purpose or anything like that. But the reality remains that our presence there provoked that response.

      The infrastructure we destroyed meant they couldn't get their kids to the hospital when they were sick, or led to the water being undrinkable or the food spoiling leading to the spread of disease which culled the older and weaker. And the survivors? What do they do? The economy is screwed, they've lost loved ones... the government is a shambles, the police collapsed, local power groups are de facto in charge, they are angry and they need to blame someone. They are ripe for recruitment and radicalization. To strike back at another religious faction and America and anyone else that is proximate that isn't "them".

      Often times our actions aren't to just protect the interests and Freedoms of just ourselves, but to help liberate the innocent from a tyrant as well

      It doesn't matter how good our intentions wee, we manufacture groups like ISIS, and Al Qaeda with our so-called 'world police' activity.

  52. Cheap kit with multiple projects by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

    If you have no background in electronics at all, this might be a good place to start:

    http://www.innovatoys.com/kits-labs/50-in-one-electronic-project-lab/165

    Very basic analog and radio circuits, which in my opinion is the best place to start, and at under $30 it won't break the bank. You'll go through all the projects pretty quickly - but then you can start experimenting with your own circuits. No soldering required - just connect the pre-tinned wires to the connector springs. I had a similar kit from Radio Shack when I was young and first getting into electronics, and I loved it. I even ended up stripping it of parts to use in my own projects when I graduated to building circuits on perfboard.

    Whatever kit you begin with, analog or digital, you'll want a Digital Multi-Meter, or DMM. It doesn't have to be a good one, and these days a cheap one can be had for 10 or 15 dollars. Because you're just beginning, I suggest not getting an auto-ranging meter - you'll maintain a better sense of where you are and what you're doing if you have to pay attention to the range setting.

    Best of luck to you sir; if electronics continues to interest you then you're in for a lot of fun!

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  53. NXT likely abounds... by jpellino · · Score: 1

    with the intro of EV3 - you could put out the call to FLL message boards to see if people retiring their NXT care to pack it up and send it off. It' still perfectly serviceable (and came with more default sensors than EV3) and since you're not fiddling with innards, the new ideas and extensions of contraptions tend to flow fairly well. Any kits you find have been through a half dozen years of middle schoolers - good luck wrecking them.

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    "Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
  54. Re:Solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    @bluefoxlucid
    Geez I don't remember my login info, and I'm too lazy right now to fix that. I am usually Wolfton on blog sites I care about.

    Anyway, I want to comment on your post as well as the intended flame war that ensued.
    I am a disabled veteran. I thank you for the Zen link - though I don't know that it is useful to me, personally.

    As for the notion that veterans are self-entitled, I say that perhaps we are, and so what? Many of us enlisted or accepted commissions solely for patriotism. I did. I did not get a bonus. I did not choose a specialty that put me on the safer end of a weapon system all day. I chose a job that would help all of us be better informed as to the threats in combat as well as in garrison. While I admit I did not have the whole picture, what I did see was considerably more than the average service-member sees and I stand behind most of the foreign policies we were purported to have enforced.

    I did receive college money through Tuition Assistance and later the GI Bills. I did complete my degree, using said monies. But to do so, I enlisted for about $400 a month for the first two months, about $650 for the next four months, and $700 for the many months after that. I was later medically retired and I suffer every day from terrible pains. I was not injured on combat, but I was injured after coming home, while teaching soldiers to properly handle certain weapons. And my injuries were not directly caused by the weapons, either. All said and done, after thirteen years of service, I earned $2,600 a month, plus some benefits. My annual statement of benefits came out to just less than $60,000 a year. Its respectable for sure, but in reality it wasn't enough given the rank I held, my job performance, my leadership experience, and technical skills - even without a degree. Oddly, I make ten thousand dollars less, five years later, and now that I have a degree but lets not digress too much.

    So let me say that I also disagreed with many orders (policies) I took an oath to uphold. In doing so, I did feel a conflict. Once, I even quietly disobeyed an order to report a soldier I supervised for a short time who was openly bisexual - prior to the ban being lifted. While my own faith convictions told me that her conduct was wrong, I knew the rule was wrong and thankfully I'm not alone in that. I believe in separation of church and state, for better or for worse.

    A veteran is not typically entitled. The ones who cry the loudest may seem like the vast majority but I have to disagree with you on that point. I know far too many who served and very quietly integrated into society when that service was over.

    A veteran is not over-worshipped except in extreme cases. Veterans are celebrated, certainly - and should be. We took oaths to defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Who cares if the motivation was college money, travel, meeting new people, and then shooting them? Those who commit war crimes are usually found guilty and dealt with appropriately. And every one of them deserves just punishment.

    But for the veterans who were wounded, or later suffer(ed) from the results of that service, what is truly wrong with being honored? If you did something exemplary at your place of employment, for your family, for your community, should you not be honored? Enlisting means suspending some of your rights, privileges, etc, for the purpose of SERVING Congress, the Commander-in-Chief, and every other citizen or lawfully documented immigrant on US soil. It means helping other nations' interests because over all, the Military's involvement in foreign policy is still designed to protect the United States of America. Every law that protects you but is not compatible with say Communism or Sharia Law, is as protected by the service-member as by municipal, county, state, and federal officers or agents.

    Please, when demonizing (there's a word to look up the etymology for) remember that the vast maj

  55. Re:Solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your right to be oppressed by a government, your right to have a corporation "own" the ability to have a 1-click checkout button, and everything else that's wrong with your terrorist haven.

    We're all /soooo/ greateful.

  56. contact us if we can assist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am an Iraq War veteran and CTO of a small technology company in northern Virginia, Perfecta Federal. If there's anything we can do to assist you with learning about electronics, computers, etc. We'd be happy to assist. You can contact us at admin@perfectafederal.com

  57. Re:Solution looking for a problem by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's possible that they thought that was what they were doing, but it wasn't what they were really doing, at least not if they got hurt in Iraq or Afghanistan after 2002. Nevertheless, I have sympathy for them because they got seriously screwed over the the government.

  58. Radio Shack and Heathkit by p51d007 · · Score: 0

    When I was a kid growing up in the 60's 70's, you could get a heathkit or radio shack P-box kit for not much money to play & learn electronics, but today, I don't know where you go, maybe do some searching on Amazon, ebay and the like. See if you can find an amateur radio operator nearby, GOOD source of information about such things.

  59. Were I lose a limb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd like to try building prosthetic limbs with others sharing my condition and interest in such activities. Perhaps even robotic ones.

  60. A little off subject... but I have almost 100 PCs by labiator · · Score: 1

    I am looking for the right Veterans Organization (Semper Fi to my fellow Marines) to give some Dell Optiplex PCs.. USB 2.0, 200 GB disks, Intel Video. I served during the first Gulf war, so I know what you are talking about. Any suggestions. North Texas is preferred to reduce shipping costs.

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  61. You can dabble with Software Defined Radio for $15 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    If it interests you, inexpensive USB-DTV dongles and free software.

  62. Where would that leave us... by gwolf · · Score: 2

    The citizens of the Rest of the World who have no say on who's the looney in charge of your army?

    1. Re:Where would that leave us... by apraetor · · Score: 2

      The discussion was about the obligation of a society to care for citizens injured in its defense. Policy is set by the Commander-in-Chief, soldiers don't get a vote in which orders they obey. Penalizing of injured veterans, for loyalty, is nothing more than a straw-man argument to let you lash out at the policies of the government to which they swore allegiance; it's just intentional conflation.

    2. Re:Where would that leave us... by apraetor · · Score: 1

      As off-topic as your question was... fine: You are a citizen of a different country; so no, you do not get to vote in the US Presidential election. If you'd like to apply to emigrate to the United States you can. Then you can vote here. If you can't discuss something without pulling out insults.. then you should go hang out on 4chan. Disparaging remarks in political discussions aren't the same thing as jokes; they're just profanity, the fall-back of someone with nothing better to say.

  63. Just please remind me... by gwolf · · Score: 0

    When was the last time the USA army acted to protect the USA citizens' skanky ass (instead of imposing the USA's convenience over people from any other nationality)? 60 years ago, perhaps? How many of those veterans are still alive?

  64. Re:Solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gee, I have a medical problem, and I like widget. I know you should use gadget to treat medical problem, but I want to use widget. Can you give me widget for this?

    You're looking at PTSD. The Zen guys have a discount for veterans. Mind you, veterans are the most entitled, self-absorbed, over-worshiped segment of our society; but this is medical treatment for people with a medical condition. I don't mind being helpful, but I don't want to compromise the integrity of my social position on the topic of veterans by appearing concerned because they're specifically veterans.

    You said "Mind you, veterans are the most entitled, self-absorbed, over-worshiped segment of our society"

    My father, my stepfather, and their brothers are WWII and Korea veterans.
    Many of my friends are Vietnam vets.
    I have a couple of acquaintances who served in Iraq.

    So. entitled? self absorbed? You really do not know what you are talking about.
    I have never met a veteran who resembled "most entitled, self-absorbed, over-worshiped segment of our society"
    You do not know any of these people and you are wrong about them.

    Please make a list of all the people you personally know well enough that you could apply the label "entitled and self-absorbed" accurately
    How many of them are veterans? Of those that are vets, are they all "entitled and self-absorbed", or what percentage?

    Seriously, what is your age bracket? I'm really curious.

    I'm posting AC because I've acquired a slash-stalker. Not one as bad as APK, but I don't want him/her in this conversation.

  65. Re: Solution looking for a problem by pete6677 · · Score: 1

    Your remind me of those cowards spitting on soldiers returning from Vietnam. I bet you'd never have the balls to say any of this to an actual soldier.

  66. Re:Solution looking for a problem by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

    As long as they weren't drafted they were merely glorified mercenaries who were injured trying to further some business/political interests that has nothing to do whatsoever with any rights.

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    "It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
  67. Another small robot company. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.parallax.com

    Another small robot company.

  68. Re:Solution looking for a problem by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    Nobody has ever protected me in the military. Nobody. If you think going to Afghanistan prevented the boots from landing on the ground here, you're an idiot.

  69. Re: Solution looking for a problem by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    I have. Soldiers like to double as recruiters, and I unload on them when they try to drag me into their bullshit--especially the army folks, the cannon fodder we send out to die first, the most expendable and the most self-important. I also know infantrymen I went to high school with, who still act like we're in high school; except in high school I never punched the shit out of these people, so it was time to play catch-up and put them in their place. Apparently I'm harder than Iraq.

    So much for "easy target".

  70. On a more serious tone... by gwolf · · Score: 1

    I find seriously offensive the hero treatment "war veterans" receive in your country.

    I have lived in places (and visited many more) that have been seriously damaged due to being "incorrectly aligned" politically. As insulting as my comment can be to you, I find it insulting to have a front-page article in Slashdot devoting resources to war veterans. Of course, in your society, you are free (and expected) to take care of those you think that are patriots — But you have to understand that many of us cannot relate to those patriots in any different way than we would relate to mass-murderers.

    1. Re:On a more serious tone... by apraetor · · Score: 1

      Oh, don't worry. I didn't find anything offensive, I was just pointing out that when you resort to name-calling it is because you've run out of intelligent thoughts to articulate.

  71. Re:Solution looking for a problem by quenda · · Score: 1

    These are WOUNDED veterans.
    That means they were injured trying to help preserve your right to be a complete asshole.

    Wounded helping preserve your right to drive a 2-tonne SUV.
    American's can be assholes without any help from the middle east. (though the likes of ISIS could give some lessons in advanced skills.)

  72. Re:Solution looking for a problem by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

    Wolfton,

    Thank you for your service, and your sacrifice.

  73. Robotic Kits for veterans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Parallax would be happy to provide some Boe-Bot or Shield Bot with Arduino kits to some veterans. Just contact me by e-mail and we'll sponsor some hardware for you guys. kgracey@parallax.com Ken Gracey

  74. How Skynet got Weapons by Gallomimia · · Score: 1

    sounds like the perfect way to have some combat shocked zealous soldier to invent terminators or other crazy robot evil genius wet dreams.

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    Sadly, a Libertarian cannot force his views on another, and freedom cannot spread as does the cancer known as religion.
  75. Re: Solution looking for a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have. Soldiers like to double as recruiters, and I unload on them when they try to drag me into their bullshit--especially the army folks, the cannon fodder we send out to die first, the most expendable and the most self-important. I also know infantrymen I went to high school with, who still act like we're in high school; except in high school I never punched the shit out of these people, so it was time to play catch-up and put them in their place. Apparently I'm harder than Iraq.

    So much for "easy target".

    Now we all know for sure that you're a fucking liar.

  76. Lego Mindstorms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At my high school, they use lego mind storms as the start of robotics. They are between 350-500$, so fund-raising might be needed, but lego mind storms are very interesting. They can be made to draw, solve puzzles, sing, play games, and basically anything else people can think up.