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Apple Announces Smartwatch, Bigger iPhones, Mobile Payments

Today at Apple's September press conference, they announced the new iPhone 6 models. There are two of them — the iPhone 6 is 4.7" at 1334x750, and the iPhone 6 Plus is 5.5" at 1920x1080. Both phones are thinner than earlier models: 5S: 7.6mm, 6: 6.9mm, 6 Plus: 7.1mm. The phones have a new-generation chip, the 64-bit A8. Apple says the new phones have a 25% faster CPU, 50% faster GPU, and they're 50% more energy efficient (though they were careful to say the phones have "equal or better" battery life to the 5S). Apple upgrade the phones' wireless capabilities, moving voice calls to LTE and also enabling voice calls over Wi-Fi. The phones ship on September 19th, preceded by the release of iOS 8 on September 17th.

Apple also announced its entry into the payments market with "Apple Pay." They're trying to replace traditional credit card payments with holding an iPhone up to a scanner instead. It uses NFC and the iPhone's TouchID fingerprint scanner. Users can take a picture of their credit cards, and Apple Pay will gather payment information, encrypt it, and store it. (Apple won't have any of the information about users' credit cards or their purchases, and users will be able to disable the payment option through Find My iPhone if they lose the device.) Apple Pay will work with Visa, Mastercard, and American Express cards to start. 220,000 stores that support contactless payment will accept Apple Pay, and many apps are building direct shopping support for it. It will launch in October as an update for iOS 8, and work only on the new phones.

Apple capped off the conference with the announcement of the long-anticipated "Apple Watch." Their approach to UI is different from most smartwatch makers: Apple has preserved the dial often found on the side of analog watches, using it as a button and an input wheel. This "digital crown" enables features like zoom without obscuring the small screen with fingers. The screen is touch-sensitive and pressure sensitive, so software can respond to a light tap differently than a hard tap. The watch runs on a new, custom-designed chip called the S1, it has sensors to detect your pulse, and it has a microphone to receive and respond to voice commands. It's powered by a connector that has no exposed contacts — it magnetically seals to watch and charges inductively. The Apple Watch requires an iPhone of the following models to work: 6, 6Plus, 5s, 5c, 5. It will be available in early 2015, and will cost $349 for a base model.

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  1. Worst annoucment ever.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Steve was so proud of how small the iPhone was. Only apple fanbois who wear cargo shorts need a giant phone. A one inch screen that goes on your wrist and does nothing without your phone.

    1. Re:Worst annoucment ever.... by rasmusbr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think they were right to go with a larger phone. Let's face it, times have changed. And a lot of people (myself included) really like the idea of a 5.5" phone. My large fingers make a larger screen a godsend, and it's a lot easier on the eyes.

      As someone who has fairly big hands I had a hard time adapting from a 4" Android phone to my current 4.95" Nexus 5. I tried to use the big phone in the same way that I had been using smaller smartphones in the past, by holding the phone firmly in my hand and moving my thumb around the screen. The problem is that my thumb only reaches about 4.2 inches, so I kept trying to reach further than I could by over-reaching with my thumb. It got to the point where I had to switch to using my phone with my left hand out of fear of permanently injuring my right thumb (feel free to joke...).

      I eventually learned that you should sort of slide the phone around your palm to align it with your thumb. Now I could probably adapt to a 5.5" phone, but I think I would go for the 4.7" one if I was an Apple user.

      It's going to be interesting to hear if iPhone thumb becomes a thing now that there are no longer any "thumb-sized" new iPhones.

    2. Re:Worst annoucment ever.... by CastrTroy · · Score: 1, Insightful

      There's a large percentage of people who don't have large hands. Most women, teenagers, and even some men do not have large hands. Personally, I'm of the idea that if I want a large screen, I'll use a tablet. There's very few situations I find myself in where I wish my phone were bigger. There's a lot of situations where a 5.5 inch phone would be too large to bring with me. But most of the time where it would be convenient to have a 5.5 inch phone, I could easily bring a 4 inch phone and a 7 inch tablet.

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  2. So what exactly is the market here. by Adambomb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A gigantic set of the population is no longer even used to the concept of wearing a watch, because they have their phone. This device doesn't replace their phone. What exactly is the reason to have this as well, as opposed to pulling your phone out of your pocket?

    Unless some company comes up with a functionally independent wearable device that replaces the need for keeping your phone with you I do not see the appeal. I don't understand what the pitch is supposed to even be. Literally every functionality can be responded to with "but i have my phone right here, it also does that and better"

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    1. Re:So what exactly is the market here. by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Believe it or not, some of us still wear watches every day.

      At any given time, I might have to track down where in the house my phone is. I also know I can go swimming in any of my watches and they'll be just fine.

      So, I want neither the smart watch, nor to be tethered to my phone all the time.

      I had lunch with a former co-worker a month or so ago ... and the first thing I noticed was he was wearing a Samsung smart watch. He seemed to think it was great and that he could be quite far from his phone. I couldn't see the point.

      Some of us geezers will still continue to wear watches which don't do anything related to our phones.

      But, hey, buy whatever toy floats your boat, it's not a one size fits all thing.

      Me, when I'm actually wearing a shirt and tie, I'll stick with one of my old fashioned automatic skeleton watches or a spiffy chronograph.

      Maybe one of these days I'll learn to tie a bow tie and get one of them fancy tweed driving caps. ;-)

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    2. Re:So what exactly is the market here. by rasmusbr · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What exactly is the reason to have this as well, as opposed to pulling your phone out of your pocket?

      Unless some company comes up with a functionally independent wearable device that replaces the need for keeping your phone with you I do not see the appeal. I don't understand what the pitch is supposed to even be.

      I believe the pitch goes something like this: In a world populated by very lazy and impatient people, the Apple watch allows you to get much of the functionality of your phone without pulling your phone out of your pocket. It also has an Apple logo on it.

    3. Re:So what exactly is the market here. by sribe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seriously, if you feel you must have your phone with you while actually on the slope, then you don't understand the concept of "time off". If your clients feel they are so important that not getting back to them in an hour or two will cost you their business, then you are even worse off than someone living paycheck to paycheck.

      Seriously, the fact that I can ski Wed - Fri nearly every week all season long, is great ;-)

      Seriously, the fact that they don't even need to know what my schedule is, is great ;-)

      Seriously, I've taken on some important obligations wrt supporting systems that are important to patient care, and I really need to be available during normal working hours. As far as my clients thinking they're so important, well, it's me that thinks that, not them ;-)

  3. Re:Scan here for a free 'whatever' sucker. by Noah+Haders · · Score: 4, Insightful

    apple has had CCs linked to iTunes/icloud for a decade now, with no problems. the apple pay transmits a one-time code, not the CC itself, so if somebody hacks it then enjoy. it's actually a really well designed system.

  4. Re:Lame by NotDrWho · · Score: 1, Insightful

    The thing that disappoints me is the way they've done charging. When I heard "inductive charging" I thought they mean like a Qi or electric toothbrush at least. And I really like that idea. Just toss your watch down on a pad at night and pick it up the next morning. But reading more about it, it looks like the charger will actual be attached by a cable with a magnetic connector at the end. So you'll get all the energy inefficiency of inductive charging and all the inconvenience and connector wear-and-tear of standard cable charging--the worst of both worlds.

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  5. Re:Incredibly bad live stream by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh, the ISPs interlaced part of the video stream, did they? They made it loop? They added minutes of this image into the stream? They added chinese audio on top of the english one?

    Like it or not, this was a total clusterfuck. Whoever modded my first comment above as flamebait is a blind Apple follower. And I say that as an Apple user. When shit happens, don't cover your ears and pretend nothing bad is happening.

  6. Re:After All Those Lawsuits Against Samsung by viperidaenz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's what I've been telling everyone since the rumours it was going to get a 5+ inch screen. it's the Apple Galaxy S6.

  7. Re:Trust us with your payments by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If we take the CEO and a corporate VP of Apple at their word, then this is how it works. Apple doesn't store CC numbers, they stay on the phone and all the transactions themselves happen with one-time codes.

    If they're lying or they're misinformed that'd be a big deal

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  8. Re:left by OhPlz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're holding it wrong.

  9. Re:Disappointing by John+Bokma · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The iPhone 6 is 4.7", and might fit your hand better than the 4.7" phone you had.

  10. Re:Trust us with your payments by rjstanford · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, they're not - they're storing a newly created token that represents the combination of the card and your phone's "fingerprint" (pun intended). Due to the way that the NFC card payment handshaking works, its useless without the phone (or an emulator for the phone) and can be trivially marked as invalid.

    To put it bluntly, while it isn't perfect its an order of magnitude better than an unchanging magstripe is, which is why Apple is rumored to have convinced Visa et al to approve "card present" rates for Apple Pay transactions which will greatly increase adoption - especially with the combination of app purchases and card-present rates. That's huge.

    Once again, its not about the technology, its about combining the technology with a smashingly good business relationship.

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  11. Any removable storage yet? by _xeno_ · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I only saw one brief bit of the stream, and it was where Steve Jobs Wannabe (Tim Cook?) was explaining how no one used camcorders any more because the iPhone could take better video. Which leads to the obvious question: does the iPhone have a replaceable battery and removable storage yet?

    Because I still have a camcorder hanging around and I use it when I want to take a video that lasts longer than a couple of minutes. The entire reason I have my camcorder is so that I can take two hour videos. Then, when the battery dies, I can swap it out with a new one. And if I manage to run out of storage space, I can swap out to a new SDXC card.

    Can't do either of those with an iPhone, making it a toy at taking pictures and video. Which is, to be fair, frequently fine. But Faux-Steve-Jobs's idea that the iPhone can replace a camcorder is just hilarious without those two very simple features.

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    1. Re:Any removable storage yet? by praxis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are various purposes for various tools. A phone (Apple or otherwise) is not going to replace a proper camera for recording in situations in which you know you need massive storage, massive battery life or professional optics. You likely will also need good lighting and sound, but that's going beyond a camera now. What a phone does do well in, are situations where you had not planned on taking video. A camera you can carry everywhere that's good enough for many applications is the major use case and why dedicated photography and videography equipment is relegated more and more to situations that warrant it.

      When my toddler is going to take his or her first steps, I might not be ready with a full recording setup, but I will have a phone at hand, for example.

      If I am planning on recording my teenagers graduation, I will bring dedicated equipment that can record for hours at better resolution, for example.

      Clearly the iPhone will not replace a camcorder, but it will serve as a suitable replacement for a camcorder in many situations. The market trends seem to support this view.

  12. Re:Trust us with your payments by necro81 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So if you lose or upgrade your phone you have to re-setup all your stored cards? That doesn't sound very Apple like.

    If you lose or upgrade your phone you have to re-setup your TouchID information. Apple contends, and I haven't seen any research to contradict their claim, that the TouchID information resides solely on the device, not in the device backup, not in the cloud. So there is precedent for something that may not ordinarily seem "Apple like."

    It's not like it is that hard of a procedure to re-enter your credit card information. How many cards are we talking about here? How long does it take to enter that information? One minute per card?

  13. Re:One day battery life in Apple Watch too? by Dixie_Flatline · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're not launching until 2015, so I think basically they're hedging their bets that they might be able to get a slightly better battery in 6 months than they can right now. It's very much like Apple to play their cards close to their chest in instances like this. They won't be able to say how long it lasts for a few months because they literally don't know, and they won't make up numbers that haven't been validated in some way.

    However long it lasts, though, it's not long enough. I'd want 5 days, minimum.

    It's a pretty piece of jewellery, though. On that front, they're at the front of the class again.

  14. Re:WiFi Calling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    How is this comment insightful? Omitting a valuable feature because one can define a challenging use case isn't "making it usable." I get poor cell phone coverage at my house. If I didn't have the wifi calling option available on my Android phone, it wouldn't be usable as a phone while at home. I don't care about switching from wifi to cellular or vice-versa.

    Android has been using wifi-calling to "make it usable." Apple just chose to ignore a use case they didn't deem valuable. They're allowed to do so, but don't give them bonus points for that. Unless you think a good solution to potentially dropping a call is to prevent the call in the first place?

  15. Re:Trust us with your payments by rjstanford · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Its a very different proposition to have an "always on" proximity-activtated chip (such as those embedded into your credit cards) and one that's only active for a single transaction based on a physical finger-swipe. The whole point is that even when (not if) the communication is intercepted, what you end up with is like sniffing SSL traffic - you could replay the "Please pay Target $20 to fulfill exactly this invoice" conversation, certainly, but that's not particularly useful to a thief. Having the physical TouchID in the middle also ensures that the phone isn't chatting to just anyone at random times.

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  16. Re:Lame by fortfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I get the joke.

    But the truth is, the thing is, in fact, lame. I had a nomad when the iPod came out. And my next device was an iPod. Because it was *awesome.* The interface was awesome, way easier to use in the car. It looked cooler. It was more portable. It had better sound quality and a better shuffle/random function.

    The watch I wear, when I wear one, is 60 years old. It tells accurate time, but it's largely a fashion accessory for me. I knew why I had, and wanted better, portable mp3 players. I have no idea why I want a computerized watch. The *only* use which as been at all seemingly valuable is that it might alert me to notifications I might miss when my phone is in my pocket. But I check my phone frequently enough that it's not really an issue for me.

    Now, when a watch can *replace* my phone, well, we'll really have something. As in, those holo-phone things in Star Wars. Even if the floating display was just 2D.

    Also, while I'm ranting, I'm sore displeased that both iPhone options are bigger. It's fine to have the big one, I get why people like that. But have the smaller one be truly smaller. Heck, I think the iPhone 5 is too big.

  17. Re:WiFi Calling? by macs4all · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I suppose Apple had to join in on the 2009 smartphone market at some point. 5+ years too late, better than never?

    They were "late" to the Music Player and Phone markets, too. And look how that turned out.

  18. Re:Scan here for a free 'whatever' sucker. by adamstew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    wow. really? If someone steals my phone and hacks off my thumb, then one of the last things that i'm going to worry about is them going to a McDonalds and hold up a bloodied iPhone and dismembered finger up to the payment system to buy a cheeseburger.

  19. Re:One day battery life in Apple Watch too? by Bogtha · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would settle for 3 days

    I think this is just the 80/20 split. Almost everybody goes home and sleeps almost every night. For the vast majority of cases, taking your watch off to charge it once every three days is no better than taking your watch off to charge it every night. And the tradeoff to get to three days is either a) a battery three times larger, b) a watch that is three times more power efficient, or c) lesser capability. A three day battery life isn't worth the sacrifices you'd have to make to get it.

    I don't want to charge a watch every night!!

    Why? What's so much better about taking your watch off every three nights instead of every night?

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  20. Re:Trust us with your payments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Revolutionary: their devices have revolutionized or invented entire product categories. I'll allow it.

    Invented: "inventing" something doesn't mean you're "the first and only guy who ever thought of doing this." I can invent a new method for secure payment based on NFC without inventing credit cards, NFC, and the idea of touch payment. I'll allow it.

    Innovated: Plenty of innovative stuff in Apple's products. Much of it is in the Software, rather than the hardware - there's only so many ways you can put together a glass panel, a battery, a computer chip, and a cell radio. I'll allow it.

    Groundbreaking: With the Apple Pay system, and starting with many CC companies on board at launch, Apple will break ground in moving the adoption of touch payment into the mainstream. I'll allow it.

    You're like a Nomad owner critiquing the iPod. The stuff you seem to think matters in the product is not the stuff the general market cares about. Good luck to you in ever inventing anything people want to buy.