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An anonymous reader writes: It's official: the smartwatch wars have begun. Apple's announcement of the Apple Watch added a contender to the race already shaping up between the Pebble watch, the Moto 360, and others. Personally, my doubts about wanting one were put to rest when I learned of the health-related features. Smartwatches will be able to track your movements and pulse rate, calculate how many calories you burn, and coach you continuously to improve your fitness.

If you have one or plan on buying one, what apps or functions do you see yourself getting the most use from? If you're still skeptical, what would it take? (If an app developer sees your requirements here on Slashdot, your wish might come true.)

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  1. No comments here yet... by bannerman · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm shocked!

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    1. Re:No comments here yet... by MightyYar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      LOL, true. We were talking about this at work. I'm far from an Apple hater. I bought a first-gen iPod and loved it, along with some later generations. I've had two iPhones (though now am on my second Android). I'm on my 4th Mac. I have Kindle tablets but admit that the iPad is a very nice machine.

      With that said, it is hard for me to imagine why I would want - price aside - another device on my wrist that does a subset of the thing in my pocket. If the watch were useful away from the phone, I could see some applications. But as is? The uses are contrived and niche.

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    2. Re:No comments here yet... by jeffmeden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      LOL, true. We were talking about this at work. I'm far from an Apple hater. I bought a first-gen iPod and loved it, along with some later generations. I've had two iPhones (though now am on my second Android). I'm on my 4th Mac. I have Kindle tablets but admit that the iPad is a very nice machine.

      With that said, it is hard for me to imagine why I would want - price aside - another device on my wrist that does a subset of the thing in my pocket. If the watch were useful away from the phone, I could see some applications. But as is? The uses are contrived and niche.

      If you're like a lot of people, you carry a backpack/computer case with you on a regular basis. Keeping your phone safely inside that bag for most circumstances would be a benefit, freeing your pockets of the burden. You could still receive/triage incoming communications while the phone was tucked away. "Nearby" for a well designed bluetooth transceiver is 30-45 feet which is enough to keep you from having to unsheathe your phone in most circumstances. If you're worried about EIRP from carrying a phone on your body, this is a clear win for the smartwatch (assuming the watch is good about TX power management).

    3. Re:No comments here yet... by nabsltd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If you're like a lot of people, you carry a backpack/computer case with you on a regular basis. Keeping your phone safely inside that bag for most circumstances would be a benefit, freeing your pockets of the burden. You could still receive/triage incoming communications while the phone was tucked away. "Nearby" for a well designed bluetooth transceiver is 30-45 feet which is enough to keep you from having to unsheathe your phone in most circumstances.

      The correct solution is to put all the "phone" functionality (antenna, transmitter, etc.) in the "watch", and use the "phone" as nothing more than a remote display and computing platform. It would be tricky to create the right split (since the watch has to have some computing power), but not impossible. The second trick would be to get the battery life of the watch high enough with the added power requirements.

      The current split of "watch is a peripheral" won't appeal to enough people to make true sales inroads. Sure, Apple is going to sell a lot of these just because of the Apple name, but it's still going to be just a small percentage of iPhone owners, much less smart phone owners.

    4. Re:No comments here yet... by jriding · · Score: 5, Funny

      The app that functions like a clock.

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    5. Re:No comments here yet... by timmyf2371 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Their iPhone is stolen from Sony's blue-prints, for example.

      I saw this a while back and the similarity is certainly striking. It raises the question as to why Sony hasn't seen the same success as Apple, if the iPhone is a mere copy of Sony's design.

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    6. Re:No comments here yet... by Wycliffe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The correct solution is to put all the "phone" functionality (antenna, transmitter, etc.) in the "watch", and use the "phone" as nothing more than a remote display and computing platform.

      This is completely backwards. The cpu, antenna, and trasmitter are the bulky items as well as the power hungry items that need bulky batteries.
      That's the part (along with the large display) that needs to be tucked away. The watch should basically just be a fancy remote display and remote
      buttons for the phone. A small VNC type remote display protocol would probably work perfectly. The cpu hungry app can run on the phone and
      export it's display to the watch (obviously taking into account the smaller screen size). The apps would still be android/iphone apps. It would
      just be that now your android/iphone has a 2nd virtual screen and a few extra buttons that it can interact with.

  2. Tell time by Moof123 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is there even an app for that?

    1. Re:Tell time by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about an alert that tells you exactly when the watch goes out of style?

  3. Perchance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is the submitter of the article a developer looking for ideas?

  4. The war that no one wanted by grasshoppa · · Score: 4, Informative

    Can you really have a "war" when you no one shows up?

    Don't get me wrong, some of these smart watches rate as "neat", but not for several hundred dollars. I could see dropping 100 bucks, maybe, on something that tracks health telemetry, but honestly? It'd probably have to be a gift before I got it.

    This is kind of like saying 3D TV companies were in a war with each other. While that may have been true, consumers didn't notice because the tech just wasn't that interesting to them.

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    1. Re:The war that no one wanted by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I could see dropping 100 bucks, maybe, on something that tracks health telemetry,

      If price is the only hurdle, then Apple will be fine. Your line of $100 is someone else's line at $350.

      But I'm not sure I'd bother wearing it after the first few days even if it was given to me. That is a bigger problem than "too expensive".

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  5. What I think would be most useful by Totenglocke · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The things that I can currently think of that I'd use a smartwatch for - 1) GPS / pedometer for running 2) music (without the need for a phone) while working out 3) discreetly checking notifications during meetings 4) navigation when riding a bike / motorcycle. I realize not everyone would value these and will say "JUST USE YOUR PHONE!", but for a $200 - $250 smart watch, I'd definitely drop down the money for these apps.

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    1. Re:What I think would be most useful by Splab · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah.

      I was hoping the Apple Watch would include Ant+, but it looks like they expect fitness centers to switch to bluetooth, so it's going to be a pass from here.

    2. Re:What I think would be most useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Ant+ has been the standard for fitness and sports sensors (Cycling especially) for a long time. Recently, though, everyone has started supporting low power bluetooth (A specific subset of the bluetooth spec designed for very low power communication that's a lot like Ant+. This enables things like a sensor that works for a year on a single button cell battery)

      All of the new Garmin equipment does. Pretty much all new devices (heart rate, speed/cadence for bikes, etc) on the market do to, I think in part by smart phone integration. Low power bluetooth has been supported on smart phones since the 4s. Only a small handful of android phones support ant+.

      The only ant+ holdouts I can think of are cycling power meters. But those are very expensive bordering on niche sports training products. They will naturally move slower. Though, I bet if you look, the majority of popular cycling power meters have new models that support low power bluetooth or have it planned.

      Speaking of exotic bike stuff. I know the Di2 electronic shifters support ant+. I'm pretty sure the next revision will support bluetooth as well.

  6. None, seriously, none. by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Wake me up when a smartwatch is a standalone device that does everything my Nexus 5 does now with decent battery life and an affordable pricetag. We're making progress, sure, but nowhere near primetime.

  7. The Measure of Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    You will be reduced to a series of numbers.

    You will find these numbers matter to you.

    You will want to increase, decrease or maintain these numbers.

    Keep your eyes on the numbers.

    These numbers matter.

    Nothing else matters.

  8. Re:Debt is Wealth. Ignorance is Strength. by juanfgs · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ahh I see you are using the new iNutjob app.

  9. I have Pebble Steel by xclay · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can swim (not scuba dive) with it, and the battery lasts more than 3 days. Various notification features are the most useful for me, and the ability to create my own watchface without much difficulty (I'm a programmer). I'd take Moto 360, LG G Watch R, and even Apple Watch more seriously if they could beat the battery life of Pebble, and get at least IP69 rating.

    1. Re:I have Pebble Steel by Jhon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I get 7+ days with mine. Try a watch face that doesn't update every second -- just every minute.

      The Pebble is cheaper and lasts longer without needing to juice up than any of the other options available. And looks decent for casual wear (for those who care). Unless you have really really small wrists and hands (and I mean REALLY small).

      While ~$150 was pricy for me and I'm unsure I'd buy it again given the opportunity, That said, I'm hooked on notifications. I find that JUST for notifications I'm keeping my phone in my pocket far more often now. I really thought I was done with watches. Haven't worn one in 15 years.

      With regards of "two way" communication, I really don't see a need for "two way" (like SMS reply) if it's going to be a battery killer. Unless you can make using such a small device easier than taking your phone out and using that, it's pointless. It's the notifications that make the difference.

  10. The war hasn't started by jeffmeden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Not until the health/life insurance companies start offering incentives to wear and heed a smartwatch's fitness advice. Given the recent findings correlating sitting for extended periods with poor health outcomes (even for those that exercise and have an otherwise "fit" life) , a smartwatch that guided the user to the right level of daily activity could significantly reduce their risk of many chronic diseases later in life and thereby reduce the cost profile for insurers.

  11. Must-have features by gaspyy · · Score: 3, Informative

    My watch is a Tissot PRC200 Automatic. Not a very expensive watch, but it would take some effort from a company to make me take it off my wrist.

    To even consider a smart watch, it would need to have:
    - a classy, attractive design (nothing convinced me so far, the LG G Watch R is the closest to something I'd use but still feels cheap; Apple watch looks too much like a gadget)
    - a smaller size. I don't have a big wrist, my watch has 42mm diameter, anything larger looks bad on my wrist.
    - much longer battery life. Current smart watches get 12-24 hours. I don't want a watch I must charge every night.

    Get these right and then we can talk about software.

  12. I'm not sold yet.... by GoJays · · Score: 5, Informative

    Currently I see no reason to have a smartwatch, it just seems like an expensive watch that relays notifications from my phone. I have no problem reaching into my pocket to grab my phone when needed. Everything these smartwatches can do, my phone can already do and usually better. This to me just seems like having a pager and a cell phone years ago, is it really necessary? I do see the potential for these devices, I just don't think they are there yet.

  13. Currently? Can't see it by MyNicknameSucks · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My feelings are summed up by Joseph Volpe's article at Engadget, http://www.engadget.com/2014/0...,

    As a category, it needs to replace -- needs to completely replace our need for a cellphone. Otherwise, it's just one more thing to remember to charge throughout our busy days. To date, there's nothing any of these thinly veiled, proof-of-concept, wrist-worn devices can do that the smartphone already in your hand can't.

    In my own case, I would be most likely to use one while working ... but work involves dust, steam, liquids, and 70kg kegs. It's not a good environment for something on my wrist.

  14. is it just me... by Cardoor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    or is there a hidden strategy of increasing the phone sizes of new iphones to deliberately make them unwieldy, and create a problem which can be "solved" with a smart-watch? ie, more crap to sell.

  15. Phone requirement by Himmy32 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most of the things on a watch that someone would want can also be handled on a phone. Add to this that most of those things are things that require cell/data signal, so you are required to carry your phone. The inconvenience of sticking your hand into your pocket to look at a larger screen generally doesn't top the inconvenience of having to have a device strapped to your body that you have to take off to charge all the time and have to pay several hundred dollars for.

    This is the same thing people have seen with bluetooth ear pieces. They are really nice for a small percentage of the time, but not enough to capitalize for the majority of the market.

    The another problem with watches is size. You have to competing design constraints. People want small and light and durable on their wrist. Versus large screen size for reading what was sent.

    Lastly many people don't want to be that connected. They want to be able to ignore the notifications every 5 seconds that someone posted a new tweet or your grandma sent you a hilarious forward. You eventually want to see them, when you can have the time to stick your hand into your pocket. But it can generally wait 2 seconds for that to happen.

  16. For fitness? Really? by gfxguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Personally, my doubts about wanting one were put to rest when I learned of the health-related features. Smartwatches will be able to track your movements and pulse rate, calculate how many calories you burn, and coach you continuously to improve your fitness.

    You mean like fitbit, polaris, and other brands have been doing for years now? I guess it's news when Apple does it.

    My wife has a polaris band she can combine with an accurate chest strap heart rate monitor, they sync together via bluetooth and her phone to track progress.... all without needing some big clunky, ugly "watch," or the premium cost for Apple products.

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  17. The war that no one wanted by bazorg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I could see dropping 100 bucks, maybe, on something that tracks health telemetry, but honestly? It'd probably have to be a gift before I got it.

    One thing I haven't read thus far about the smartwatch situation is that Motorola, Apple, Samsung, etc. are new entrants to an area where Polar, Suunto, Garmin and a few others have already been building this sort of equipment for a long time. These guys have build watches with heart rate and other sensors with varying degrees of ruggedness, specifically for the purpose of surviving sports use. Spending ã100-ã300 for a device that needs daily charging, in a shell that can't go into the sauna, sea and mud just for the sake of having 1000 apps (at ã0.99 each) instead of 10 functions built-in is not that compelling until SPECTACULAR apps turn up.

    This article comes at a great time, because heart rate and GPS as apps aren't that convincing IMHO. Maybe a fart-rate app is what the world needs.

  18. A Truely "Killer" App by ReverendLoki · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll be happy when I can use it to detonate those remote mines that I set.

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  19. I don't wear a watch, but... by unfortunateson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If it could monitor blood sugar without stabbing you for blood, it'd be a great tool for diabetics (not a category I need it for)
    If it can somehow monitor whether I've fallen asleep and beep/vibrate (and stab you for blood?), it'd be great while driving, or other dull work

    Black hatting: Read every RFID/NFC object I pass my wrist near.

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  20. Re:None by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yeah but then your eyes couldn't follow the display fast enough.

  21. Apps by doconnor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I had a Sony Smartwatch for a while before it broke. Here are the apps I would like to see/write, besides the obvious notification apps:

    Nextbus predictions
    Remote control for mythtv
    Monthly calender
    Google maps with walking route
    Weather
    Display brief text, like shopping lists

    Looks like a lot of these where covered in the Apple Watch presentation.

    There lots of things people use their smartphones for that only require a quick glance. They are the kinds of things a smartwatch is suited for.

  22. Tinder/Grindr/Match.com instamatch instafication by mveloso · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Holy moley, you could get an instafication when a compatible/willing partner is nearby. That would be hilariously awesome!

  23. GPS by smash · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The bit about the Apple Watch GPS being able to tap you differently for left or right is genius. I ride a motorcycle. I have enough to look out for without being glued to a GPS. Left/right haptic feedback to indicate direction on a watch will be awesome.

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  24. AFK: Developing self-repair app by kfsone · · Score: 4, Informative

    If the watch is broken, it will automatically get directions to the nearest watch repair shop.

    Then it will display a large, friendly, compass arrow to point you on your way.

    If the problem is a display failure, it'll speak out loud: "Hotter" or "Colder" until you reach your destination.

    If the speakers are broken, it'll just run the phone hot or cold against your arm.

    If the strap is broken, you're SOL.

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  25. It's not just apps, but speed and UX. by aussersterne · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is I think the thing that so many people miss about the Apple Watch announcement. The problem with existing smart watches hasn't been that the features aren't useful, it's that the promised features simply don't work. I owned two different smart watches and had the same experience:

    - Extremely limited app selection
    - Very, very slow and oversimple apps that did exist
    - With input that was just plain cumbersome and unreliable
    - And bluetooth connectivity that had to be constantly restarted/reconnected (like, every time you tried to use it, bluetooth was down)

    As I've said in previous posts, I'm one of those that does still wear a watch every single day, so I could be an obvious target for a smart watch, at least moreso than people that don't wear a watch at all and haven't done so in years, if ever.

    But for a smart watch to make sense, it can't be a worse experience than pulling out the phone. Watches will always lose on the screen size front, so it's got to be compelling in other areas. The phone experience does have some problems (you have to pull it out, it's risky to pull out and manipulate in some contexts—walking in the city, for example, where a drop can kill it and jostles from pedestrians can come easily, it's bulky and conspicuous, you have to put it back, and so on), so it's not inconceivable that a smart watch could make sense.

    But smart watches thus far have been lessons in user friction—you had to really, really, really want to do a given task *on your smart watch*. One that I tried for a few days (the Sony watch) only recognized about 10% of the taps that you made (Want to tap that button once? Then tap manically on the screen over the button 15 times in rapid succession and hope one of them takes.) and was so slow and oversimple (presumably due to lower processing power) that even aside from UI horribleness, it just plain didn't do anything very well in practical terms.

    If the Apple Watch has:

    - Processing power analagous to that of smartphones
    - A high-resolution display
    - Input surfaces and controls that are as reliable as those of smartphones
    - Battery life long enough to get through a day with certainty
    - Reasonable ruggedness
    - Stable bluetooth connectivity without hassles

    Then it could well be a winner, not because it claims to do anything new, but because it actually managed to do what smart watches claim to do. So far, my experience with smart watches was that they claim a lot, then do absolutely none of it in practice. It's not that the feature list sucks, it's that the features themselves haven't actually been implemented in such a way that you can use them without sitting down for ten minutes to have a "smart watch session" and eke out a tap or two.

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  26. I use my Pebble every day, and not just as a watch by Kris_J · · Score: 3

    I can control the Philips Hue lights and Belkin Wemo switches in the house. The core of this is the Android app Tasker. I also use it for sleep tracking with the app Sleep As Android. I use it to control my music while I'm driving with Music Boss and I have the barcodes for three loyalty cards I frequently use (FlyBuys, Woolworths & Hoyts) in Wear Your Barcode.