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Microsoft Paid NFL $400 Million To Use Surface, But Announcers Call Them iPads

mpicpp sends this news from Business Insider: Prior to the season, Microsoft and the NFL struck a 5-year, $400 million deal with one of the major components being that the Microsoft Surface would become "the official tablet of the NFL," with coaches and players using the Surface on the sidelines during games. But Microsoft and the league ran into a problem during week one of the season when at least two television announcers mistakenly referred to the tablets as iPads, giving a huge rival some unexpected exposure. The biggest blunder for the league came during the nationally televised Monday Night Football game when ESPN's Trent Dilfer joked about how long it took Cardinals assistant head coach Tom Moore to "learn how to use the iPad to scroll through the pictures." In a separate incident, Drew Brees of the New Orleans Saints was spotted by Fox commentator John Lynch using a Surface on the sideline. Lynch remarked that Brees was "not watching movies on his iPad.

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  1. Hahahaha by Shaman · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's rich.

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    1. Re:Hahahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      What did you expect from retards?

    2. Re:Hahahaha by phrostie · · Score: 5, Informative

      I use an android tablet to control and display timed exposures(or digitally zoom planetary objects) with my telescope/camera at star parties.
      everyone always assumes it's an ipad.
      ipad has become a generic term for a tablet.

      the NFL thing is funny, but not surprising.

    3. Re:Hahahaha by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wait. You run with a crowd nerdy enough to regularly attend star parties, but none of them are nerdy enough to recognize an operating system?

    4. Re:Hahahaha by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's dark, silly.

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    5. Re:Hahahaha by TWX · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait. You read slashdot and have been here long enough to have a six-digit user-id, but you're not nerdy enough to recognize a device versus an operating system?

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    6. Re:Hahahaha by cyberchondriac · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well honestly, IT is one nerd niche, amateur astronomy is another. I can believe it.

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    7. Re:Hahahaha by bigman2003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Going along with the story...

      I use a Surface Pro to connect to my Canon camera for macro shots. Super cool, full control of the camera, tethered shooting (straight to Surface) which is then automagically uploaded to SkyDrive. Full screen preview, editing on the Surface, etc.

      I can do tons of work directly on the Surface, really works out nice.

      Every day I swear that I will "Strangle the next person that calls this an iPad", but that hasn't happened yet. But each time someone does that, I take the time to point out the USB port, the fact that it can run full Photoshop, etc. etc.

      iPads were a cruel joke played upon people who thought they were getting a device that could actually DO something. iPads are great for consumption, but once you move beyond NetFlix, they are not good for much.

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    8. Re:Hahahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      and there all high

    9. Re:Hahahaha by cayenne8 · · Score: 2
      Yep, that's precisely what I was thinking...the iPad with the general public, has become a generic word for 'tablet'.

      Kinda like Kleenex is pretty much any facial tissue you blow your nose on, Xerox is any copy machine, and in the south, Coke pretty much means any type of carbonated beverage (as in "hey, you want a coke or something?" "Yes", "Ok, what flavor?")

      Coke-or-something being one word when asked...

      But yes, I've heard before people asking, "what kind of iPad do you have there?"

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    10. Re:Hahahaha by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Informative
      Here is an interesting page showing how to use DslrDashboard (open source) with TP-Link Battery Powered Wireless router along with LR Timelapse to have a really powerful way to control your camera. Except for the LR Timelapse portion, the DSLR dashboard is open source and you're using Open WRT. The hardware on the battery router is pretty much identical to a commercial offering (whose name escapes me right now) that is charging $$$$$$ for this type of set up.

      I've got the components, and hope to find a weekend free soon to hook it to my Canon 5D3 for some time-lapse and other controlled shooting. I figured it nothing else, this would breathe a bit more useful life back into my old Motorola Xoom tablet.

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    11. Re:Hahahaha by phrostie · · Score: 2

      there is an adapter called an OTG cable. it's like a USB with a couple of wires/pins flipped.
      you can make one out of a USB, but they are so cheap it's not worth it.
      there are a number of Apps, I like DSLR Controller the best.
      you'll need a canon or nikon dslr with live view. a T2i or newer is recomended.

       

  2. football can cause brain damage by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 3, Funny

    and a lot of the Announcers are former players

    1. Re:football can cause brain damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or maybe they just don't give a fuck whether it's an iPad, Surface or some kind of Android tablet.

      You know, just like the rest of us...

    2. Re:football can cause brain damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Most of "the rest of us" do give a fuck if it's an iPad or a not-iPad :)

    3. Re:football can cause brain damage by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't think that was a slashdot poster "rest of us" but a whole world "rest of us".

    4. Re:football can cause brain damage by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I bet Apple does though. The last thing they want is "iPad" becoming so generic they lose the trademark, like hoover or cellophane or escalator or sellotape.

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    5. Re:football can cause brain damage by sg_oneill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Speak for yourself. If its someone elses kit, I really couldn't give a damn. Whatever works for yo.

      Some folks love their surfaces. Some folks love their droids, and I kinda like my iPad. And we're all right, they are all the best device for whoever has it and thinks its right for them.

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    6. Re:football can cause brain damage by TWX · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, for a moment there I thought you'd use the wrong homophone for prophet...

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    7. Re:football can cause brain damage by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Interesting

      For Apple, the genericization of the term iPad is a double-edged sword. It waters down the trademark, while at the same time pointing everyone back to the source. It is one of the reasons I believe AppleWatch is not an iWatch. In fact, the whole "i-Thingy" is probably dead now. As for the NFL and Surface, that is gonna be a long term problem. The term "Surface" is an actual word, used beyond computers. It is really a dumb name to use for trademarked device.

      And a Surface is nothing more than a crappy overpriced under performing laptop that wants to be a tablet. Either that, or an expensive Tablet that also wants to be a laptop. You need a laptop, you'll buy a full laptop for less than the cost of a Surface, and have a better machine. AND if you need a tablet, you buy tablet for less than a Surface. And if you need both, you get both, and use them both.

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    8. Re:football can cause brain damage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The Surface 3 is actually pretty god damned good, and review across the board pretty much confirm that. I understand why you'd want to poop all over it, but the Surface RT days are long since over. That said, I own an iPad and I'm hesitant to leave an established ecosystem, but will likely give the Surface another look when it's time to refresh.

      Cue the "shill" cries for not thinking everything MS does is shit.

    9. Re:football can cause brain damage by bigman2003 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Surface user here to respectfully disagree. The Surface is an awesome device that can be used for all sorts of good.

      When people see me using my Surface as a tablet, they are then amazed when I show them the USB port (so simple...but why not on iPad?) and keyboard. Yes, the keyboard seems strange at first, but I really do use my Surface about 50/50 keyboard on/off. I've been popping that thing on and off for a few years and I really like it.

      When people see me using it as a laptop, they are then surprised when I take off the keyboard, pop out the kickstand, and use it as a movie viewing tablet. OR, when I am out in the field and pop open Photoshop express to do some quick photo editing with my fingers. In about 6 seconds (really) I can have a photo cropped and 'shared'.

      You are right, it is a tablet that wants to be a laptop, and a laptop that wants to be a tablet. Not cheap by any means but worth it for me.

      I can tell you that from my perspective, this is the best device in either the tablet or laptop class for my use. Previously my Surface was also my desktop- but a new job brought on a ridiculously over-powered desktop that I would be crazy not to use. Now my Surface spends the day as my music player until I need to go out, then it is my usual note-taker.

      ***All that being said, we have a few other SP2's floating around in my organization that are barely used because people have no idea what they can/should be doing with them. Some were purchased after they saw my 'success' and I really want to say, "hmm...maybe you should have gotten an ipad..."

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    10. Re:football can cause brain damage by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 2, Insightful

      USB port? Why is that important? I don't carry mice, keyboards or even thumbdrives. USB is the new Floppy. About the ONLY thing I use USB for these days is charging my peripherals. Wireless (Bluetooth, WI-FI) are much more important features to have, and quite honestly, are ubiquitous on devices. Heck properly configured Projector uses Ethernet for displaying, no Display Port dongle needed.

      And having used an iPad and Surface, I always go back to my Android tablet, as it just gets everything right. Size is right, keyboard (Swype) is perfect for one handed fast typing. Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, optional 4G for connectivity. Plenty of apps. iPad keyboard and the onscreen Surface keyboard is unusable for me after using Swype. And let me know when Surface speech to text is as good as Android, and is as usable across all applications like Android's.

      I get a giggle out of Surface commercials when they tout "Photoshop" on a tablet. It is woefully underpowered for running Photoshop for anything more than basic tasks. Because I can tell you, nobody doing Photoshop work professionally, is going to go Surface, and casual users aren't gonna buy Photoshop to run on Surface.

      I'd rather have a full Laptop for when I need it, AND an Android Tablet for when I need something bigger than my phone on the go. And for the cost of a fully setup Surface Pro, with all the bits needed to be a "real" computer, is more expensive than a Tablet and better laptop (with touch screen). Midrange Surface Pro 3 (no keyboard) is $999. Lenovo IdeaPad with similar specs is $729.99, A decent Android Tab is 200-250 depending on features. I think Surface is a product that is neither a Tablet (too big) nor a Laptop (too small).

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    11. Re:football can cause brain damage by tapi0 · · Score: 2

      I get a giggle out of Surface commercials when they tout "Photoshop" on a tablet. It is woefully underpowered for running Photoshop for anything more than basic tasks. Because I can tell you, nobody doing Photoshop work professionally, is going to go Surface, and casual users aren't gonna buy Photoshop to run on Surface

      you say this in reply to a poster who's telling you that he uses photoshop on his surface?
      From the phrasing ("in the field") I'd also say that use is professionally. Now, your full time photoshop pro may not use it exclusively, but you've kinda replied to your own counterargument.

      As someone above also said, there's enough room for people who like/use android, iPad, or Surface so your preference is valid. Personally though, the cost comparison is only one aspect - you're happy to use one device for one thing and another for some other use case, but for may people the convenience of not having to assess if they'll need the laptop, the tablet or the phone (or lug around all of them) is a benefit that outweighs the slight cost difference.

    12. Re:football can cause brain damage by David_Hart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      USB port? Why is that important? I don't carry mice, keyboards or even thumbdrives. USB is the new Floppy. About the ONLY thing I use USB for these days is charging my peripherals. Wireless (Bluetooth, WI-FI) are much more important features to have, and quite honestly, are ubiquitous on devices. Heck properly configured Projector uses Ethernet for displaying, no Display Port dongle needed.

      Obviously you do not travel much or you take your laptop with you when you do. I only take my tablet and use it to back up my photos to USB sticks and watch video (Micro-SD cards) on the airplane. I agree that Bluetooth is better for connecting mice and keyboards. However, USB sticks are much more useful and universal for transferring data.

      What's more telling is that every tablet vendor that does not have built-in USB ports have USB adapters. The only reason why they don't include a USB port (likely a 25 cent part) in their tablets is because they realize that they can make more money on selling the peripherals.

      In the same theme, having a micro-HDMI or DisplayPort is a must have for me as well. I use it to hook up to TVs when on vacation to watch movies.

    13. Re:football can cause brain damage by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

      I agree calling the thing 'Surface' could lead to confusion. If an announcer said something like "the coach is checking his Surface now", what percentage of viewers might have thought he was referring to something other than the gadget in the coach's hand?

      I would have gone with "The coach is checking his fondleslab now", but saying that kind of thing can get you fired nowadays.

    14. Re:football can cause brain damage by bigman2003 · · Score: 4, Informative

      USB is important for a few reasons:

      #1- ingesting photos. OR even better, tethered shooting. Cameras use USB ports for data transfer and control of the camera. The time to preview pictures is while you are taking them, not when you return to the office. Not saying you can't do this with other platforms, but you can do this with EVERY camera using Surface/USB.

      #2- Printers. Sure, wireless printing is great...sometimes. Again, most every printer works with USB. I've been visiting other locations, need to print something and the IT guy rolls his eyes when he sees I need to print a document from a tablet. Once he sees Surface/USB it's like, "Oh..okay, no problem, plug in here." Nobody wants to install some stupid app to let me print.

      #3- Wired networking. Again, wireless is great- but sometimes it is not an option. A wired network dongle has saved me a few times.

      #4- odd peripherals. Just last Friday I had to provide a butt-ton of files to a lawyer for 'discovery'. They provided an external hard-drive (Aegis Padlock Drive). USB...sure, plug that sucker in and I'll give you all the files you need.

      In a professional environment I don't always have control over what I need to connect to. USB has been the most ubiquitous port over the last 10 years. Not having it on your computer locks out out of a LOT of stuff.

      My Surface Pro 2 runs Photoshop just fine. Admittedly I don't use it as my primary editing machine (screen size) but when I need it, it is there. Not sure why you say the Surface is underpowered, I would say it is 'run of the mill' in performance. In 2013/2014 that means, "It is an absolute breeze to do photo editing." Also, the fact that the Surface Pro is an awesome digitizer, with a pen, is icing on the cake.

      I'm not saying the Surface is the be-all and end-all, but it has features that are fantastic. Most of the detractors obviously haven't used one in a professional environment...where an Android tablet or iPad just don't do what I need them to do. Including having a USB port.

      **Someone felt that I was trolling. I'm not a troll, just a person who enjoys using their Surface Pro for work and entertainment. Also, my previous job had me purchasing a LOT of equipment (1,800 users) and I spent soooo much money on iPads it was amazing. Most of those were deemed totally useless once the novelty wore off. I'm just trying to steer people toward what I feel is a very good solution to the mobile computer question.

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    15. Re:football can cause brain damage by Ravaldy · · Score: 2

      I think all 3 major devices are very good and they each offer something. You telling me the USB port isn't really important makes me think you don't work a technical job where you travel on site. If you do you would find many uses for the USB port. The day to day user may not benefit as much from the USB port but I assure you on site technicians do. I've seen it used to hookup to HVAC equipment, to upgrade printer firmware or to console into a network Switch that isn't yet assigned an IP. These are all devices you cannot access wirelessly. There are hookups for iPads but who wants to invest in proprietary garbage when you can have a generic peripheral that is compatible to your PCs and your tablet.

    16. Re:football can cause brain damage by Falos · · Score: 2

      > A universal port? Why is that important?
      For interfacing with Whatever The Fuck You Wants and the occasional Anything.

      Apparently it's limited to things in this universe though, so there's a bit of Walled Garden going on, pigeonholing you out from connecting to devices in alternate dimensions or whatever.

  3. That's nothing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's nothing, I keep posting about the iPhone 6 on Facebook and people continually refer to it as the Nexus 5! Joke's on them.

    1. Re:That's nothing by slimshady76 · · Score: 2

      I see what you did there... Well played sir, well played...

  4. To be fair... by robinsonne · · Score: 5, Funny

    To be fair, have you listened to some of what NFL announcers say these days? Most of it is pretty damn stupid, even when they're keeping their remarks to football. I consider it lucky if they can tell the difference between a run play and a pass play...telling the difference between 2 gadgets? Nope.

    1. Re:To be fair... by wiredlogic · · Score: 4, Funny

      NFL: One of the few industries where smooth talking idiots can rake in millions spewing bullshit.

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    2. Re:To be fair... by operagost · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One of the others is the cable news industry.

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    3. Re:To be fair... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 5, Funny

      NFL: One of the many industries where smooth talking idiots can rake in millions spewing bullshit.

      Fixed that for you.

    4. Re:To be fair... by msauve · · Score: 4, Funny

      Don't forget the US Congress.

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    5. Re:To be fair... by MachineShedFred · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you want to really be fair, if the announcer would have said "Brees isn't watching movies on his surface" about 98% of the audience would have said "WTF is a 'surface'? Did the announcer just have a stroke and use the wrong word?"

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    6. Re:To be fair... by gman003 · · Score: 2

      NFL: One of the few industries where smooth talking idiots can rake in millions spewing bullshit.

      Few?

    7. Re:To be fair... by Talderas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They say you can't carry liquids on a plane..... try carrying on a bottle of ice.

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    8. Re:To be fair... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The U.S. Congress is not an industry, it's organized crime. I'm surprised the mafia hasn't sued them for unfair competition yet.

    9. Re:To be fair... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, I'm struggling to come up with a counter-example. Even medicine, where skill is of life or death importance, has professional quacks.

      I guess you can't talk your way through farming?

    10. Re:To be fair... by ranton · · Score: 3, Informative

      NFL: One of the few industries where smooth talking idiots can rake in millions spewing bullshit.

      I think the guy who moderated you Insightful instead of Funny has confused other posters into thinking you were being serious instead of making a joke.

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    11. Re:To be fair... by nine-times · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Brees isn't watching movies on his surface" about 98% of the audience would have said "WTF is a 'surface'?

      That's not true.

      I'm sure lots of people would be like, "Of course he's not watching movies on his own surface. How on earth would he have a movie on his own skin? But maybe he's watching movies on his iPad. Duh!"

    12. Re:To be fair... by Jade_Wayfarer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm surprised it's not the other way around.

      "Hey, it's a nice organised crime ring you have here. It would be a shame if someone... made some law equating it to the terrorist organisation. You know, we can't let the terrorists win, now, do we?"

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    13. Re:To be fair... by Ranbot · · Score: 2

      This is an amusing story, but I'll cut the announcers some slack, because filling an audio void for ~4 hours (pre-game, game, post-game) mistake free is not easy. I used to be a college radio DJ and in just an hour show talking between songs I had plenty of screw ups.

      What I find more amusing is that Microsoft didn't seem to consider this hazard before dumping $400 mil into advertising with the NFL.

    14. Re:To be fair... by ShaunC · · Score: 4, Funny

      More like farming supplies

      So, bullshitting about bull shit?

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    15. Re:To be fair... by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nonsense. Football announcers always have clear and lucid insights into the game. Like these:

      "We've got two physical teams here." - insider information from Tommy Jackson

      "The Giants will have to play physical football to beat the Panthers." - Daryl Johnson pointing out that a psychological strategy will probably not work

      "You have to do well on third downs." - Joe Buck demonstrating his mastery of the nuances of the game

      "The team that plays the best defense is going to win this one." - Mike Ditka pointing out that the team which allows the fewest points will generally win

      If it wasn't for people like that, I wouldn't realize that the team that scores the most points wins (I've also heard an announcer helpfully point that out during a game).

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  5. How much! by MrL0G1C · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Am I the only person here who thinks MS are nuts for having paid so much for a product placement. Surely $400,000,000 could have been better spent through other advertising methods. $400m seems like at least 10x too much.

    They expected that product placement would lead to millions of extra sales of an expensive item!!!

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    1. Re:How much! by nine-times · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, I'd be suspicious that Microsoft could buy $400 million worth of Surface tablets from themselves and hand them out on the street, and it would increase adoption more than this deal will.

    2. Re:How much! by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

      28 teams, 60 players + 40 coaches per team, 2800 tablets at the most. Round it up to 3000. Cost to microsoft per tablet around 300$, 900K max.

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    3. Re:How much! by Rich0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Indeed, if they randomly distributed 2M surfaces for free throughout the population it would probably cost them about the same, and it would immediately create a demand for applications, it would get their product in front of consumers, etc. That would seem like a far better investment if you really wanted to blow this kind of cash.

    4. Re:How much! by jbolden · · Score: 2

      I agree with you it seems like way too much. I'd want to know about the duration. Is this something like a 1 year or 10 year contract? Does it include things like free promotions from players: winning quarterback on why he did so well, "I always carry my Microsoft Surface with me in my car so I can study new plays to use against next week's team".

      I do get the idea. We know from Mac vs. PC studies ( example http://cdn.redmondpie.com/wp-c... ) Windows users are: less liberal, older, more conventional in their tastes, late adopters. Which I suspect correlates fairly strongly with people who would be influenced by football and don't own an iPad but could afford one. "The NFL can afford any tablet it wants and they pick Microsoft. Sure Apple is good for artists and college students but the safe / conventional / practical choice is Microsoft"....

      I don't think it is likely to be successful because people aren't that stupid. The reality is that Windows 8 is more innovative than iOS, less practical, less conventional and quite iconoclastic in terms of the userbase. The advertising and the product conflict.

      Microsoft has the problem of trying to be all things to all people. Not an easy place to be.

    5. Re:How much! by Talderas · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's not $400,000,000 to advertise the Surface. That's only a part of the deal and I'm not sure why it's called the "big part". From another article discussing the deal....

      When the regular season starts, Microsoft's Xbox Live network will offer services that include video feeds of game highlights and fantasy football data. Xbox owners will also gain access to NFL Sunday Ticket, the league's package of out-of-market game telecasts that was previously available only to DirecTV satellite service subscribers.

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    6. Re:How much! by halfEvilTech · · Score: 3, Informative

      actually it is -
      32 teams
      53 players per active roster
      10 players per practice squad (not active for game days so doesn't count)
      22 coaches per team

      so that would come out to 2720 personnel - but even then during the preseason I believe they announced each side would get something like 13 Surface Tablets on the sidelines and 12 to use in the coaches box.

      so that is 25 per side per game - with at max 16 games (weeks 1-3 and 12-17 I believe) that would be at most 800 tablets in use any given week.

    7. Re:How much! by SeaFox · · Score: 2

      Indeed, if they randomly distributed 2M surfaces for free throughout the population it would probably cost them about the same, and it would immediately create a demand for applications, it would get their product in front of consumers, etc.

      Except "Surface tablets are the official tablets of the NFL" sounds a bit better in the press for Microsoft than "Microsoft has to give away Surface tablets to get people to use them".

  6. generic® by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do they wipe the screens of their ipads with kleenexes and q-tips, which they keep with the band-aids and aspirin next to a refrigerator full of cokes, in the room where they make xeroxes, next to the escalator?

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    1. Re:generic® by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 2

      Some of your generics are American based, and I ended up having to stop my Hoovering to Google what they are.

    2. Re:generic® by tsqr · · Score: 2

      I don't know why this got modded "Troll". The mis-naming of those tablets is not necessarily a good thing for Apple. When your brand name becomes commonly used as a generic name for a class of products, it dilutes the value of the trademark; IP attorneys refer to it as "genericide". Kleenex, Q-Tips, Band-Aids and Aspirin are great examples of this. Now excuse me, I have to go google how to photoshop some pictures.

    3. Re:generic® by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

      Aspirin is a trademark or Bayer.

      Heroin used to be also. They marketed it as a non-addictive substitute for morphine.

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  7. Or, Apple could be fearful of comoditization by Albanach · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The last thing Apple wants is for any tablet to be identified as and referred to as an iPad. For their laptops, you get the huge light up apple logo to make sure everyone looking at you knows just what you're using.

    The last thing Apple's marketing office will want is for anyone who sees a tablet to refer to it as an iPad. I don't see the name become generic at any point soon, but it's a big fear of many companies. With Apple so reliant on branding and recognition I'd expect them to be more concerned than most.

  8. Re:$400 million by OzPeter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Take a moment to think about that.

    If you think all that is bad, then consider that the NFL is a non-profit organization. Should the NFL continue to enjoy non-profit status?

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  9. Bill Belichick by Squidlips · · Score: 2

    I saw him struggling with it...I suspect he will go back to a clipboard and paper soon and to heck with the NFL and the MS contract...

  10. Re:The NFL? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The NFL is an american, tax-exempt organization that gathers for religious events every Sunday. Except for the summer which they take off. The events are held in temples larger than the Egyptian pyramids, and they are built and paid for by local governments using public money. In return for their service they are showered with large sums of money by nearly every segment of society, and their members are given special privileges that make them immune to some of the normal laws of society. The downside for the members, though, is that their activities are medically dangerous, and they usually are only allowed to take part in them for one to two years before their health degrades and are tossed to the side. In short, it is like any other large american corporation.

  11. Re:Scotch tape by gnasher719 · · Score: 2

    iPad has reached that point that Kleenex (facial tissue) or Scotch tape (clear adhesive tape). People can say "I want an iPad but not one of those expensive Apple ones" and mean they want a tablet type device.

    I'd say this is nowhere near. The generic name is "tablet" and not "iPad". And the generic name for a music player is "MP3 player", not iPod, even when a so-called MP3 player might be used to play mostly AAC or other non-MP3 formats.

  12. Microsoft didn't pay the messengers by SethJohnson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Most commenters here and elsewhere assume these references to a competing product were accidental. I believe they were likely intentional. The $400m paid to the NFL did not include any money paid to the broadcast corporations. They're sitting there wondering why they should help the NFL promote something while at the same time having to pay the NFL similarly-sized piles of cash.

    I think these carefully-executed comments were an intentional message to Microsoft that their promotional budget is better spent with them on commercials rather than trying to embed them in the content without paying the broadcasters.

  13. OMG! by wcrowe · · Score: 2

    Someone called something that wasn't an iPad, an iPad! In other news, one announcer was overheard to say that the trainer was placing a Band-aid on an injured player, when in fact the bandage was a Curad! Shocking!

     

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  14. Yes it is a lot of money by benjymouse · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is not just for "product placement", though.

    From Microsofts press release on the deal:

    The agreement provides Microsoft with the rights to create exclusive interactive experiences through products such as Xbox One and Surface, transforming the way fans will experience the NFL in the years to come. The NFL on Xbox will provide fans with an all-new viewing experience through innovations around Skype and Xbox SmartGlass; an all-new, innovative fantasy football solution allowing fans to view players and live competition side by side on a single TV screen; and a personalized NFL destination featuring information about the players, teams and games fans care about most. Xbox also retains the exclusive rights to extend these interactive experiences to tablets, enabling fans to use Xbox SmartGlass technology to enhance game day.

    So MS has also licensed the rights to use the NFL brand, clips etc. (could be 3D instant replay on the xbox, streaming over Skype?).

    And exclusive rights for tablets. Could be a driver for Surface uptake.

    And also this:

    As part of the partnership, Surface by Microsoft branding will appear on NFL sidelines in unique ways, including on the hoods of the official on-field NFL instant replay stations. As part of the relationship, Microsoft will be granted the following designations:

    The instant review stations are in view during some of the most tense situations of a game, with a lot of attention. Surely, that is worth money.

    400.000.000 is a lot of money. I have no idea if it is too expensive or not. But it does cover more than the right to equip the sidelines with tablets.

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  15. Re:$400 million by benjymouse · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just to have the NFL officially use your brand of tablet.

    What gave you that idea? Did you just pull it out of thin air?

    It covers more than that. Read the MS press release on the deal:

    The agreement provides Microsoft with the rights to create exclusive interactive experiences through products such as Xbox One and Surface, transforming the way fans will experience the NFL in the years to come. The NFL on Xbox will provide fans with an all-new viewing experience through innovations around Skype and Xbox SmartGlass; an all-new, innovative fantasy football solution allowing fans to view players and live competition side by side on a single TV screen; and a personalized NFL destination featuring information about the players, teams and games fans care about most. Xbox also retains the exclusive rights to extend these interactive experiences to tablets, enabling fans to use Xbox SmartGlass technology to enhance game day.

    So, basically also the license to use NFL content on XBox and tablets (I see no mention of live content - but it could be buried in the "xbox experience")

    No advertising seconds, no "official phone", "official supplier" or anything, just "official tablet".

    Wrong. From the press release (see above):

    As part of the partnership, Surface by Microsoft branding will appear on NFL sidelines in unique ways, including on the hoods of the official on-field NFL instant replay stations. As part of the relationship, Microsoft will be granted the following designations:

      Xbox remains “The Official Game Console of the NFL” and will also become “The Official Interactive Video Entertainment Console.”

      Microsoft is “The Official Sideline Technology Sponsor of the NFL.”

      Surface by Microsoft and Windows are “The Official Tablet and PC Operating System of the NFL.”

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  16. If I was in the NFL I'd be pissed by Snotnose · · Score: 2

    I'd be wanting to work at 110% of my ability 24/7, if I was forced to learn/use a device foreign to me I'd be pissed. I don't care if it's a surface, iPad, or chalkboard, let me work in a way that's most productive for me.

  17. Hey Microsoft!! by sabbede · · Score: 3, Funny
    I will let you equip my organization with Surfaces for only $20. Our brand has developed a strong customer following and the products we use have a great influence on the purchasing decisions of our clients.

    Granted, my organization may look like a household, but that's just a clever marketing tactic.

    We will need three tablets at first to equip our executive staff (myself and my girlfriend) and our lead associate (her daughter), though our affiliates (extended family) may require them in the future.

  18. That's nothing by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    For this upcoming Super Bowl, the big halftime event is going to be a heavily choreographed number with all of the participating players dancing around, clicking their Surface keyboards onto and off of the devices.

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  19. Re:iPad, mPad, gPad, aPad by N!k0N · · Score: 3, Insightful

    no no, they're talking about the PADD.

  20. I still remember when... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 2

    All the phone manufacturers with the exception of Apple spent millions on Super Bowl Ads and at the end of the game all the players took out their iPhone and took pictures of each other with the trophy.

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  21. Plenty of BS to go around by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    NFL: One of the few industries where smooth talking idiots can rake in millions spewing bullshit.

    You didn't forget about religion, politics, finance, auto sales, TV news, real estate, and insurance did you?

    The NFL is small potatoes in the making money through BS industry.

  22. Brands become generic names by sjbe · · Score: 2

    I'd say this is nowhere near. The generic name is "tablet" and not "iPad".

    Maybe to you but that's not the way the real world works. People absolutely do call all tablets "iPads" regardless of actual make. They refer to any MP3 player as an "iPod" whether it actually is or isn't. People don't search, they "Google".

    No it isn't accurate but it is what happens. If you correct them they will ignore you. Most people really, seriously DO NOT CARE that it isn't actually accurate. All adhesive bandages are Band-Aids. All nasal tissue is Kleenex. All transparent tape is Scotch tape. All photocopies are Xeroxes. It happens. Get over it.

  23. Re:Unterminated quotation by TWX · · Score: 2

    Unterminated quotations are by-definition terminated at the end of the paragraph. At least they are regularly and consistently in all of the novels that I read.

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  24. First sentence of TFS: 5-year deal by raymorris · · Score: 2

    > Is this something like a 1 year or 10 year contract?

    The first words of the summary are:
          Prior to the season, Microsoft and the NFL struck a 5-year, $400 million deal

  25. Re:Brand that shit! by tibit · · Score: 2

    I think the biggest issue is that Microsoft doesn't really have a simple symbolic logo for itself as a corporation. There's a perhaps widely-recognized Windows logo, and that's about it. The people at the marketing helm at MS are really asleep, and have been for ages. They can't even keep from fucking with their Windows logo. Say what you will about Apple, but they essentially had only two logo designs, and both are instantly recognizable. They had the foresight to design them for the long run. MS seems to think quarter-to-quarter.

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  26. Time to genericize the ipad trademark. by denzacar · · Score: 2

    Preferably from the orbit.

    It's the only way to be sure.

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