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Phablet Reviews: Before and After the iPhone 6

Velcroman1 writes Bigger is better. No, wait, bigger is worse. Well, which is it? Apple's newly supersized 4.7-inch iPhone 6 and the jumbo, 5.5-inch iPhone 6 Plus are a marked departure for the company, which has clung to the same, small screen size for years. It has gone so far as to publicly deride larger phones from competitors, notably Samsung, even as their sales grew to record highs. Tech reviewers over the years have tended to side with Apple, in general saddling reviews of the Samsung Galaxy Note – a 5.3-inch device that kicked off the phablet push in 2012 – with asides about how big the darn thing was. Are tech reviewers being fair when they review the iPhone 6 Plus? Here's what some of them said today, compared with how they reviewed earlier phablets and big phones from the competition.

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  1. Very sad by halivar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I hate, hate, hate, hate large phones. If I needed a bigger screen, I'll pull out my tablet or my laptop. I'm a skinny guy, I wear tight-ish jeans (fiance hates it, but I gotta be me), and pulling a big-ass phone out of my front pocket is a pain in my ass, and that's with an IPhone 5S.

    I'm going to pass on the 6 and hope they come out with a traditional-sized one for the 6S or 7.

    1. Re:Very sad by geekoid · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hipster doesn't like new thing. News at 11.

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    2. Re:Very sad by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wait, I thought hipsters were the guys who liked the new things? Like if you had an iPad and an iPhone you were a hipster, but if you had an old Android and a Lenovo laptop you were a legitimate human being.

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    3. Re:Very sad by trout007 · · Score: 2

      The truth is it's nice using large phones but it sucks carrying them. I actually still prefer the form factor of the 4S with the stainless edge and glass front and back. It has a nice weight to it so I know it's in my pocket plus it's so smooth it slides in and out of a pocket easy.

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    4. Re:Very sad by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 2

      If I needed a bigger screen, I'll pull out my tablet..

      Not if your phone completely obsoletes your tablet, so that you're never carrying one around.

      (But yes, I can see how not everyone wants a tablet, so they might not want a phablet either.)

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    5. Re:Very sad by manu144x · · Score: 2

      There are literally hundreds of phones on the market right now, with ANY imaginable size (i should know, I am an android developer). Just go with the 5s, there is nothing in the 6 you will notice except screen size.

      Yet I agree, they are stupid for offering phablets only. They are in the other extreme now.
      In my opinion, the optimum number would be 3:
      Small (existing size), medium (iphone 6 size) and phablet (iphone 6 plus).

      But they probably had tons of iphones 5c/5s in stock and wanted to get rid of those :)

    6. Re:Very sad by Ranbot · · Score: 2

      I hate, hate, hate, hate large phones. If I needed a bigger screen, I'll pull out my tablet or my laptop. I'm a skinny guy, I wear tight-ish jeans.

      There are the millions of smartphone consumers in the world who don't have the disposable income to buy a smartphone and tablet. Pocket size is not driving the phablet market. The driving force is consumers who want/need to do computing tasks with their phone, but can't afford or don't want to pay for a secondary tablet. Samsung saw this need in the market [particularly in Asia] several years ago, Apple is just now trying to address it.

    7. Re:Very sad by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wait, I thought hipsters were the guys who liked the new things?

      I've never been convinced it's well defined.

      It sometimes seems to carry some form of ironic post-modern cynicism, and some fashion sense which is either very modern or 70s/80s style in an ironic manner.

      In other cases it seems to be "people who like new things".

      Either way, I'm closer to the sore hip age than the hipster age, and they (fortunately) don't make skinny jeans for me. :-P

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    8. Re:Very sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      pulling a big-ass phone out of my front pocket is a pain in my ass,

      If you stop wearing your pants backwards, that will solve your problem.

    9. Re:Very sad by khr · · Score: 4, Funny

      and pulling a big-ass phone out of my front pocket is a pain in my ass.

      If pulling a phone out of your pocket is a pain in your ass, you may be doing something wrong.

    10. Re:Very sad by tobiasly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wait, I thought hipsters were the guys who liked the new things? Like if you had an iPad and an iPhone you were a hipster, but if you had an old Android and a Lenovo laptop you were a legitimate human being.

      It depends on whether a critical mass of the general population also likes said new thing. When they were the ones waiting in line all night at the Apple store, it was all good. Now that the same lines are filled with people sleeping in trash bags to immediately flip them to China's gray market, not so much.

    11. Re:Very sad by crashumbc · · Score: 3, Informative

      ROFL at people calling 4.7" a phatablet

      4.7" is small for phones today 5" seems to be the sweet spot. That said I love my 5.5" G3

    12. Re:Very sad by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I got the iPhone 6 (not the 6 Plus) trading up from a 4S. Still getting used to the 6. For me it is too thin but that's just an opportunity to get a thicker and more protective case.

      But if it wasn't for being able to supersize the icons on the display and Apple Pay, I think I would return it. It's really too big at least until I acclimate - if I acclimate. No way in hell I'd get the 6 Plus unless I got the big gold chain to wear it around my neck and make the display a clock face...

      As phones go, I really liked the size of the 4S better. And so far, I'm not very impressed by the quality of the phone connections. Dropped calls and lots of garbled speech. My 4S had better call quality so far by far. I may still return the 6 if I can't get that figured out as the main reason I have it is to use it as a phone.

    13. Re:Very sad by halivar · · Score: 2

      The rest of the world is not obliged to share your opinion, no matter how highly you think of yourself.

      Geez, man, I'm just a regular guy who hates large phones. By no means did I present myself as the Emperor of Man, hold a gun to your head, and demand you to repent of your big-phone heresy. I would do way cooler things if I had that power.

  2. Bigger is better for some, bigger... by EzInKy · · Score: 2

    ...is worse for others. Guess it really depends on how big your pockets are.

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    1. Re:Bigger is better for some, bigger... by Ranbot · · Score: 2

      Guess it really depends on how big your pockets are.

      Wrong. For most people choosing phablets it has nothing to do with pocket size. It's mainly by consumers who are migrating their traditional desktop computing to their mobile devices and the tasks are just easier with a larger screen. Many people don't want to spend double for a phone and a tablet, so they opt for the compromise single-device phablet.

      For example, my 27-year old sister does not pay for cable/internet at home, but has a smartphone that she does most of her computing from. In the rare times she really needs a computer for something, she will use PCs at her work during her off-hours or drag out her old laptop at free Wi-Fi cafe. She does not have the disposable income for tablet, so a phablet is perfect for her.

  3. what?!?! by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The press is biased towards Apple? You don't say...

    1. Re:what?!?! by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think the reviews are pretty fair. Apple deserves credit for inventing the large phone.

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    2. Re:what?!?! by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except if you actually go back and read what the press said, there was a little bump of "wow, that's a big phone" for the Galaxy Note and S3 - which were large phones for the time - and then stopped mentioning it. In fact, the general concensus over the past two years is that the iPhones are too small now. If you look up the iPhone 5/S reviews by each of those sites, you'll see the same sorts of remarks. The Nexus 4 really set the benchmark at about 5 inches as far as the press were concerned.

      The premise put forward by the article is, to put it bluntly, unsupported by the facts.

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    3. Re:what?!?! by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Interesting

      So, what you're saying is... you didn't read the original reviews, the article or even the summary? The quotes are pretty clear.

      On the Galaxy:

      It’s still too big for a smartphone After testing it over the past week and a half, the awkwardness that came with carrying such a large, “notice me” phone outweighed the benefits of it, for me.

      – Lauren Goode

      Same person on the iPhone6:

      Maybe I’m getting old, and my eyes are getting worse. Or maybe I’m stuck in Apple’s reality-distortion field (help). But something strange happened this week. I started to like a phablet.

      – Lauren Goode

      Translation: Your new feature sux because it's not Apple! Oh... Apple did it to? Yay! I like it now!

    4. Re:what?!?! by praxis · · Score: 2

      You know, there was an appreciable amount of time and personal experiences that Lauren had between those two quotes. People do change their views and sometimes its for reasons you or they might not understand. Ascribing her change in liking Phablets to "Apple did it to? (sic)" is pretty presumptuous.

    5. Re:what?!?! by samwichse · · Score: 2

      This may be the most painful whoosh I've ever seen on Slashdot.

  4. HEY HEY HEY! by RevWaldo · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's Phat Tablet!

    .

  5. The traditional response by dontbemad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This seems to be a typical sort of response from a media that tends to bias Apple products. I make no criticism of Apple with that remark, only those responsible for reviewing their products fairly. I get the feeling that a huge number of these reviewers, rather that being classical "tech lovers" if you will, are more prone to have a brand or ecosystem identity that drives their judgement about a given product or product family.

    This kind of trend is fairly common across all major phone manufacturers, across both iOS and Android, and also across Apple and Google themselves. It is why I rarely take a phone review seriously, be it for a phone that I actually am interested in or one that I'm not. Having information about specs and hardware is a good place to start when deciding between two pieces of technology, but past that, a huge amount of one's enjoyment of a device can come from external factors, such as previous brand investment, ecosystem size and saturation, and even things as "trivial" as what one's friends are using.

    I try not to be terribly upset when I see Apple product reviewers exhibiting these signs of bias, since a large number of Android (and perhaps even some windows phone?) reviewers do the same things. I read and watch these reviews as I would watch news about politics: with a boulder sized grain of salt. While some truth may be found somewhere in the reviewer's statements, they still can and do fall prey to human shortcomings that affects us all.

  6. I'm pleasantly surprised. by geekoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm pleasantly surprised by the number of people in the article that basically said the same thing in both reviews. I couple of people magically changed their tunes with the Apple 6, but not as many as I thought.

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    1. Re:I'm pleasantly surprised. by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of those that changed their tune, they commented about trying to operate the larger device with one hand. Apple moved some things around to make easier. And, it's lighter and thinner than it's 2012 predecessors - a benefit of time and manufacturing processes. Machined metal vs plastic makes a difference as well in terms of how rigid the device is and how that feels in one's hands. Again, the benefit of time to review existing products and improved manufacturing processes.

      So, I didn't hear any particular fan-dom responses because of Apple vs Android. I heard that Apple's take on it was a little more refined. One would expect that over the course of two years. Samsung will do the same on their next iteration.

      Being said, I am a big guy (6' 1") with large hands. The 6+ still feels awkward to me. If I opt for one of the newer models, I would, likely, go with the straight 6 over the 6+. But, I am not due for an upgrade for another year. I can wait.

      Of the best new features I would like to see? Improved battery life.

  7. Re:Talk about an unsupported hypothesis by Sockatume · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If by "suddenly" you mean "two years and dozens of four-to-six-inch-phones later", yes.

    That's less time than it took for the original iPhone to go from ridiculously oversized* to perfectly normal.

    *Ars Technica's review compares it unfavourably to the Razr.

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  8. Meh, anything Apple does is considered "cool". by the_humeister · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Before switching to x86: x86 sucks ass! PowerPC all the way!

    After switching to x86: x86 is awesome! Glad we don't have PowerPC anymore!

    1. Re:Meh, anything Apple does is considered "cool". by jpellino · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, it was a bit more complicated than that. At the outset PPC did outperform x86. Good reason to use it. x86 caught up and PPC development was clearly not going to be able to support notebook computing (which is why you never had a iBook G5). At that point it was a good business decision to switch. Apple even made it amazingly simple to migrate apps from PPC to x86 as long as you took their giant repeated hints to use xCode - something that Adobe just didn't pay attention to. Their nonsense was probably the biggest user-facing bump in the switchover.

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  9. Phone size myopia by swb · · Score: 2

    They haven't released numbers yet, but the press reports seem to indicate that the 6 Plus demand is outstripping supply yet the chorus of people who think that even the 6 is too big let alone the 6 plus is as loud as ever. I think this is an interesting dichotomy.

    I think the 6 Plus is fine -- I find more screen better than less screen, even if the increased size limits one-handed usage. I don't think there's an "ideal" size for any phone unless you toss in some usage requirements, like one-handed use or pocket storage complaints. I know some people who would use a full-size iPad as a phone if they could because none of the one-handed use or pocket issues apply to them. I think it's just a matter of personal preference.

    I do think it's interesting that Tim Cook's Apple is responding to market demand instead of imposing a Jobsian design fascism. I also think that for a decent chunk of people, the 6 Plus is meant to take over some of the things they'd use a tablet for. I'm mostly happy with my iPad 3 (even with iOS8), but I think with a 6 Plus I'll reach for it less and put off upgrading it until it runs out of iOS updates.

    And I think a lot of people who want both but can't swing it financially will find a 6 Plus a reasonable universal device. This is what surprised me about the 6 Plus release as I'm pretty sure it will eat into iPad Mini sales and even some full-size iPad sales.

    What would be nice and I don't know if we'll ever get there for lots of reasons (technological and sales/marketing) would be a watch-sized device becoming the root device with the phone or tablet being the kind of screen/user interface, tethered to the phone for network access. That way you could pick your "phone" based on size preference, or none at all if all you wanted was bluetooth audio and phone calling.

  10. Re:Talk about an unsupported hypothesis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    No, they actually say they started liking phablets the moment Apple did one, it is not their experience with other phablets. The most clear quote (actually admitting it) is from Lauren Goode who said about the Note:

    It’s still too big for a smartphone After testing it over the past week and a half, the awkwardness that came with carrying such a large, “notice me” phone outweighed the benefits of it, for me.

    And then about the iPhone 6 plus:

    Maybe I’m getting old, and my eyes are getting worse. Or maybe I’m stuck in Apple’s reality-distortion field (help). But something strange happened this week. I started to like a phablet.

    And they feel comfortable making damning statements about a non Apple device, while saying the same thing as politely as possible for the iPhone. E.g. compare a TechCrunch quote on the Note:

    I found that it was really difficult to get comfortable with the device, never feeling like I had complete control over it as I would with a smaller phone.

    With that on the iPhone:

    the additional size makes for a less ‘perfect’ ergonomic quality, something the iPhone 6 definitely achieves

    The worst they can say about the iPhone 6 plus is "less perfect", while adding that the iPhone 6 IS perfect. Until one month ago, of course, the iPhone 5/5S was the ergonomically perfect one, while Samsung Galaxy S3/4/5 where awkwardly large. I guess perfection just follows Apple wherever they go. "Journalists" just follow right behind.

  11. Reviews follow sales to get more eyeballs by rodrigoandrade · · Score: 3, Informative

    The original Galaxy Note got some pretty bad reviews, some even calling it a fad, due to its size. But then it sold like hot cakes, flying off the shelves.

    Then review sites learned ther lesson and gave the Note 2 a decent spin and gave it the top reviews it deserved. Now the LG G3 is getting all the 4.5-star reviews.

    It was always meant to be the other way around (i.e you read reviews to help you make an informed purchase), but sites need ad money and realized it's un-cool to hate on phablets.

    I replaced my old broken Note 2 with a tiny Nexus 5 and I'm suffering with the cramped 4.95" screen. Next time, I'm going medieval on screen size.

  12. Very sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Have you actually tried them? I mean I understand not wanting a Note 4 or iPhone+,
    but have you actually tried phones in the Galaxy S5 class (~5")? The rounded back (which the iPhone 5 hasn't got) helps a lot.
    I was actually surprised how little you feel the phone considering it's size.

  13. Re:Just what apple does... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2

    The optimal time to launch a larger model would've been then, not a full year later. They missed the boat.

    Yeah, to the tune of 10 million sales over the weekend. ;-)

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  14. I love them by Kokuyo · · Score: 2

    I went from a Galaxy Note 2 to a HTC One Max. And then I went and put an Otterbox around the thing.

    I carry it in my front pants pocket. It snags not more than any other rectangular deice (because it's always the corner that gets snagged by a fold) and I can actually use it to browse the web without unusable mobile versions of websites and without pinchzooming like a deranged person.

    I don't have to carry a second device, either, that needs a daily recharge... I could have been talked into carrying a phone and actual tablet if, and only if, there was a Nokia 6210, with nothing more than phone, sms, contact list, 3G/4G and Wifi Hotspot/Tethering capabilities. But such a thing does not exist, at least not at a price that would make you better off buying a smartphone all the same.

    I love the size... finally it doesn't feel like I have to pinch a teensy, tiny device between my not even that enormous fingers and be afraid of it slipping away. That's why I dig the Otterbox too, by the way. The HTC is so thin, I was constantly afraid of inadvertently flicking it through the room.

    YMMV, but I love these things to death. If I could have had the HTC with full metal body and twice as thick (and therefore with a battery in the 6Ah range), I would have bought that instead.

  15. Re:In fairness ... by LordLucless · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've got a Note 3, and I frequently hold it up to my head to talk on it. I also gave up caring about what people think of based on what technology I use a couple of decades ago.

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  16. Different things for different people by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 2

    Exactly.

    Different people want different things.

    This is not news.

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    1. Re:Different things for different people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's news to Apple

    2. Re: Different things for different people by niftydude · · Score: 2

      it has no utility for anything other than payments. The use scenarios other devices use NFC for (because they can't be used for payments due to carrier interference) are better handled by better technologies, like Bluetooth LE.

      So you think that the NFC tag I have on my bedside drawer, that I can place my phone on when I'm ready to sleep and have it turn off my house lights would be better handled by Bluetooth LE or some better technology? Ditto for all the other tasks floating around that I handle with NFC tags?

      I doubt it. Please explain.

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  17. Re:Fainting fanboi by BronsCon · · Score: 2

    Anyone using Wave Charging *did* buy a brick with the Apple logo on it.

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  18. Hipsters are passe ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wait, I thought hipsters were the guys who liked the new things?

    They liked the new things that coincided with their generation hitting their prime. The new things as the next generation hits its prime, the new things that are different than "their" things, not so much.

    Skinny jeans are becoming passe, soon to be laughed at when seen in photos, "OMG, look at those pants, can you believe we/they wore those". At least for guys. Tight jeans for women will always be fashionable.

    Yes there will be die hards. Every generation has those too.

    Like if you had an iPad and an iPhone you were a hipster, but if you had an old Android and a Lenovo laptop you were a legitimate human being.

    Poor analogy. The iPhone vs Android thing is strongly correlated with zip code, in other words income. Its simply a matter of getting what you want vs getting what your finances force you to settle for. Sure there are a few who shriek about the "walled garden", a loud minority, sort of like Linux desktop users.

    Perhaps I'm being a little hard on the Linux users. Many of those at Linux conferences are carrying MacBooks.

    1. Re:Hipsters are passe ... by njnnja · · Score: 2

      Most phones tend to be free or nearly so with their contract so price isn't a significant factor for most people

      But the choices of subsidized phones are being determined by your selection of carrier, which people choose based largely on cost. If you have AT&T or Verizon, you are generally looking at the best tier of "free" phones, if you have something like MetroPCS, you are looking at a different tier of "free" phones, all running android. So price is a huge factor for most people in their phone choice, it's just indirectly through their choice of carrier.

    2. Re:Hipsters are passe ... by xevioso · · Score: 2

      Hipster-hating has certainly hit its prime. You see comments insulting people who like things they deem cool all the time. People used to make fun of goths, yuppies, even geeks, and now they make fun of hipsters. It's the new cool thing. Which makes the hipster-haters hipsters.

  19. The REAL problem is NO small flagships by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now that Apple has joined the phablet bandwagon, we have another problem: manufacturers are only offering their premium devices in phablet, or near-phablet, sizes. Want the "smaller" iphone? Sure, but you have to give up camera features. Most of the Android phones are in a similar boat - you can get a 4-4.5" screen phone, but you'll give up memory, or speed, or camera functionality, LTE, or any of a number of other features. Smaller screens mean lower price points and cutting corners.

    Wouldn't it be nice it you really could choose a 3.5-4" screen phone that did everything else the larger models did?

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  20. Mini iPhone 6s by ed1park · · Score: 3

    I would love one the size of a 4s. Is there a petition out there to support this sentiment?