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Grooveshark Found Guilty of Massive Copyright Infringement

An anonymous reader writes: If you're a Grooveshark user, you should probably start backing up your collection. In a decision (PDF) released Monday, the United States District Court in Manhattan has found Grooveshark guilty of massive copyright infringement based on a preponderance of internal emails, statements from former top executives, direct evidence from internal logs, and willfully deleted files and source code. An email from Grooveshark's CTO in 2007 read, "Please share as much music as possible from outside the office, and leave your computers on whenever you can. This initial content is what will help to get our network started—it’s very important that we all help out! ... Download as many MP3’s as possible, and add them to the folders you’re sharing on Grooveshark. Some of us are setting up special 'seed points' to house tens or even hundreds of thousands of files, but we can’t do this alone." He also threatened employees who didn't contribute.

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  1. Their hard drives didn't crash? by DaHat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clearly the management of Grooveshark didn't have the forethought of those at the IRS did to ensure that hard drives containing potentially incriminating emails disappear.

    1. Re:Their hard drives didn't crash? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The one time IBM Deathstars would have been useful, and they didn't have any.

  2. Re:Class justice by DaHat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    YouTube responds to takedown requests thus helping it stay within the safe harbor provision of the DMCA. The emails from Grooveshark do seem to suggest they activly participated in infringement rather than just being a medium which infringers happened to use.

  3. Why? by OzPeter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why did I have to google the name to figure out WTF Grooveshark was?

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    1. Re:Why? by Minwee · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why did I perform a search on Yahoo!?

      At all?

    2. Re:Why? by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because my Altavista bookmark is forwarding me there now. When did this happen?

      Oh well, I guess I'll try that new "Hotbot".

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    3. Re:Why? by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because you are way out of the loop?

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    4. Re:Why? by sound+vision · · Score: 3, Informative

      It was the hyped-up streaming music service that came after Pandora but before Spotify.

  4. If your actions will draw powerful opponents ... by davidwr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ... you can't afford to do anything that will give them a knockout blow.

    How would things have turned out differently if the founders of Grooveshark had started off the way they started off - with some illegal uploading and other things - but instead of "carrying on" they closed down their operation then started a whole new "legally clean" one and make 100% certain that neither they nor their officers or employees ever did anything that would give the opposition any ammunition other than, of course, providing a neutral platform for end users to use their services.

    Yes, the opposition could claim "willful blindness" regarding what their customers were doing but their lawyers could reasonably counter-claim that the DMCA specifically allows or even requires hosting providers to be "willfully blind" to infringement unless they receive a specific notification of a specific violation. Thanks to the "dirty hands" of the officers and management, the company will probably never get a judge to rule on that part of the case.

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  5. Re:Now sharing music is illegal? by tomhath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Only copyrighted music. Or copyrighted anything else to which you don't have distribution rights.

  6. Re:Now sharing music is illegal? by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now sharing ANY music is illegal?

    If the copyright cartel had their way, any piece of technology which could possibly be used for things they don't approve of would be illegal.

    They've been trying very hard to get that for years. If they keep bribing the right people, they might eventually get it.

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  7. Re:huh? by suutar · · Score: 3, Informative

    They get their music by having their customers upload it.

  8. Some content should be avoided... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I worked at a video game company prior to the dot com bust, one of the QA supervisors kept pestering me to contribute to the internal MP3 server. So I did. I brought in my collection of Patsy Cline CDs, ripped on my workstation, and transferred to the MP3 server. My contribution to the communal music collection was deleted within five minutes and the supervisor stopped pestering me.

    1. Re:Some content should be avoided... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Mickey Mouse was invented in 1928, after that there is no public domain.

      Unless Congress extends the copyright law for another 20 years, the Mickey Mouse copyright is scheduled to expire in 2023. Unless the Disney CORPORATION lobbies Congress again and/or files a trademark application, Mickey Mouse will enter the public domain.

    2. Re:Some content should be avoided... by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

      No musical recordings have entered the public domain due to expiration of copyright. Ever. When the U.S. Congress expanded copyright to sound recordings in 1972, it allowed existing sound recording copyright laws at the state level, some of which provide for a perpetual term, to continue for one full work-made-for-hire copyright term. This means all sound recordings produced before 1972 are under copyright in at least one U.S. state until 2067 (17 USC 301(c)). If the songs were first published on or after January 1, 1923, the songs are not in the public domain in the United States. If at least one songwriter was surviving on or after January 1, 1944, the songs are not in the public domain in the European Union.

  9. Funny, however.. by s.petry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First a disclaimer, I don't feel like reading everything TFA links. Perhaps there is something incriminating in the details, but at least what the summary states is hardly illegal.

    "Please share as much music as possible from outside the office, and leave your computers on whenever you can. This initial content is what will help to get our network started—it’s very important that we all help out! ... Download as many MP3’s as possible, and add them to the folders you’re sharing on Grooveshark. Some of us are setting up special 'seed points' to house tens or even hundreds of thousands of files, but we can’t do this alone." He also threatened employees who didn't contribute.

    I don't see any statement about stealing MP3s to share, ignoring copyright claims by artists, or copying personally purchased music into the service. Those things would surely be illegal, and perhaps that is in the evidence somewhere and just didn't make the summary.

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    1. Re:Funny, however.. by BronsCon · · Score: 3, Informative
      Who said anything about "without authorization"? Some artists don't mind it one bit.

      I hadn't realized this track was posted on YouTube. It was a collaboration between me and the enchanting Jo Gabriel, and never actually officially released anywhere. Or at least I thought...

      And, rather than suing, they post a link to the video.

      They're not alone, either. A *ton* of artists would love that kind of exposure. Especially for *free*.

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    2. Re:Funny, however.. by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most often overheard quote indie band quote " I can't eat exposure" .

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