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Why the FCC Will Probably Ignore the Public On Network Neutrality

walterbyrd writes The rulemaking process does not function like a popular democracy. In other words, you can't expect that the comment you submit opposing a particular regulation will function like a vote. Rulemaking is more akin to a court proceeding. Changes require systematic, reliable evidence, not emotional expressions . . . In the wake of more than 3 million comments in the present open Internet proceeding-which at first blush appear overwhelmingly in favor of network neutrality-the current Commission is poised to make history in two ways: its decision on net neutrality, and its acknowledgment of public perspectives. It can continue to shrink the comments of ordinary Americans to a summary count and thank-you for their participation. Or, it can opt for a different path.

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  1. Fortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The FCC does not regulate torches and pitchforks.

  2. Re:Changes require systematic, reliable evidence.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... so where is the systematic, reliable evidence that not being neutral in the way you treat traffic is somehow better for the future of the Internet?

    These networks are owned by the ISPs. It seems to me that government, before it steps in and tells them how best to run their networks, should have the burden of showing how net neutrality is better for the network than prioritization schemes.

  3. I have two things to say about this. by mark_reh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    1) Thank God they don't pay attention to most public comments. Can you imagine the magnitude of the disaster that would result from a California style of mob-rule in Washington? We definitely DON'T need THAT.

    2) They pay far too much attention to their corporate sponsors instead of doing what they are paid to do- use their brains and think about how to give us the best possible services. It's no surprise that the Republicans have a major hand in screwing us all, after all, their platform includes denial of science.

  4. I wonder, why the request for submissions? by Opportunist · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Why did they ask for submissions on the subject? Wouldn't an online poll have been sufficient to ignore?

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  5. Re:Changes require systematic, reliable evidence.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So why should ISP's be paid twice for moving the same packet? I'm asking since you deftly ignored the actual argument.

  6. Re:Changes require systematic, reliable evidence.. by Dredd13 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I understand your assertion, and simply disagree with it profusely.

    There was no "understanding" associated with the tax-relief. If there was, it'd be codified in the laws and regulations surrounding such tax relief. If there had been such codification, this wouldn't even be a discussion, it'd be "no, your statutorily prohibited from doing that," or "OK, that's fine, but to do it, you need to repay the $nnn,nnn,nnn,nnn.00 in tax relief that was predicated on not doing so." Instead, folks like yourself - who actually don't understand the issue at all, get all hand-wavy about "we gave them tax relief" and assume that there was some actual agreements codified around it, which weren't actually there.

    Let me be clear on something: you haven't paid for "a packet". You've paid for a pipe, capable of a given flow-rate. In this case, Netflix (for example) has also paid for "a pipe", capable of a given flow rate, into the system you get your data from. It's not nearly big enough, though, to service all the people who want to consume data from Netflix. Now, your argument is that the people who sell the pipes should just give Netflix a bigger pipe and take it on the chin because goddamnit you want to watch your Breaking Bad reruns. But the pipe Netflix needs, to do what you're asking, is really goddamned big. Big enough that if Netflix wants a pipe that big, it should damned well pay for upgrading it themselves. That includes both just the physical pipe, but also whatever the people who sell the pipes need to charge in order to able to handle the inflow of data from a pipe that big, sending it on to all the various places where those bits are going to drop back out into your laptop.

    Your attempt to fixate on "charging for packets" is laudable. It certainly makes for a more compelling argument, or it would if there were any companies charging "by the packet" instead of "by the width of the pipe."

    By all means, though, if you want to go to "paying by the packet" billing, I suspect the telcos and cable companies would be happy to oblige. It's a much more tenable business model for everyone involved, charging metered service, so that those who put the most actual strain on the network pay the most. But the last time a carrier tried that (TWC, 2008, in field trials in Texas) there was a hue and cry from folks - on this very site - against such "paying by the packet".

    So, believe me, I very much understand the issue, and have been paying attention to it before you had even heard the phrase "net neutrality."

  7. Re:Changes require systematic, reliable evidence.. by anagama · · Score: 3, Interesting

    He's right: idiot.

    Read this before you comment more:

    http://www.theverge.com/2014/5...

    Essentially, these companies claim Title II status whenever they want to build something because under Title II they don't have to pay for right of way to government or private entities, get to use poles and tunnels without having to pay, etc., -- in other words they get a subsidy -- but when it comes to charging customers, they disclaim Title II status.

    This is a corollary of "Privatize profits, socialize expenses" -- "Privatize profits, socialize business expenses."

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