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Past Measurements May Have Missed Massive Ocean Warming

An anonymous reader writes "Previous estimates of global ocean warming have been significantly underestimated due to historically sparse temperature data from the Southern Ocean, new research has found. From the article: "Earth's oceans have absorbed more than 90% of the warming caused by greenhouse gases, researchers estimate, with the stored heat showing up as warmer seawater. But a new analysis suggests scientists may have underestimated the size of the heat sink in the upper ocean—which could have implications for researchers trying to understand the pace and scale of past warming."

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  1. Re:What happens to that heat? by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Informative

    The ice caps which are melting are taking some of the heat. Evaporating water will cool it down too. The currents moving the water to cooler areas will go to warm up the cold areas. That it is called global climate change. Not global weather change the whole system is changing from the imbalance.

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  2. Re:Models are right, measurements are wrong? by dave420 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You outed yourself with your last sentence. The only place global cooling was discussed was in the media, not in the scientific literature. It also wasn't the 1980s or 1990s, but the 1970s, which also means you either have a terrible memory, or are regurgitating something you heard someone else say. So, to sum up, you just demonstrated that you:

    1. Get your scientific information from the mass media
    2. Have a terrible memory of this topic, or simply regurgitate what others say without checking.

    Just one of those is enough to make people not listen to you, but you got both. Brilliant.

  3. Re:both poles are at record level high... by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

    im so sick of the lying

    So why are you doing it? We just covered how wrong you are.

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  4. Re:please no by dywolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    Myth: The models arent accurate

    Fact: The models are accurate.

    "Models successfully reproduce temperatures since 1900 globally, by land, in the air and the ocean."
    "While there are uncertainties with climate models, they successfully reproduce the past and have made predictions that have been subsequently confirmed by observations."

    http://www.skepticalscience.co...
    http://www.skepticalscience.co...

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  5. Re:Oh god, here we go again. by dywolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    And here goes the lying liar linking to another lying liar, again.
    The only reason they're inexplicable, is because he's not a scientist.
    The blog post refers only to land based sensors in the US, and the difference it causes is less than 0.02%, and it onyl affects a single data set for the US.
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/G...

    "Denialists jumped on the bandwagon in regards to this shift making many grandiose claims that it invalidates all of the data that proves this has been the hottest decade in recorded history. This is not the case; it only makes a tiny difference that does not change the decade averages or the global averages."

    So.. once again: nothing you have stated is valid.

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  6. Re:What happens to that heat? by thrich81 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually I don't see any problem in the OPs statistics as stated. If you combine the 1951-1975 entries and the 1976-2000 entries you get a 50 year period, just like the two periods before. And its total number of cat 4 hurricanes is 46, well over the totals for the 50 year periods before, which perfectly fits his narrative. It isn't uncommon to reduce the intervals in statistical aggregations when things start changing more rapidly. In this case the OP did it such that we can easily recreate equal sized bins. By the way, those periods he used are 1851 to 1900 = 50 years, 1901 to 1950 = 50 years, 1951 to 1975 = 25 years, 1976 to 2000 = 25 years, not 49, 49, 25, 24 as you stated. The statistics here are pretty simple, not much room to manipulate or complain about them. Looks like a trend to me.