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Former Infosys Recruiter Says He Was Told Not To Hire US Workers
dcblogs writes: A lawsuit by four IT workers alleging that outsourcing firm Infosys favored hiring Indian workers over U.S. workers now includes an account from a former Infosys recruiter about the alleged practice. It includes accounts by Samuel Marrero, who worked in Infosys's talent acquisition unit from 2011 until May 2013, of meetings with executives at the India-based IT services firm. Marrero and other recruiters "frequently complained" to higher-ups at Infosys during these weekly calls that many of the highly qualified American candidates they had presented were being rejected in favor of Indian prospects. In response to one of these complaints, Infosys' global enterprise lead allegedly said, "Americans don't know $#!%," according to the lawsuit. Infosys has denied allegations that it discriminates.
Management doesn't know shit.
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If Infosys is in fact guilty of discriminating against American workers by refusing to hire American workers for American jobs, then such malfeasance should be punished by confiscation of all of Infosys assets located in the United States, and by banning Infosys or any subsidiary of Infosys from operating on American soil.
Unfortunately, we can't just kill Infosys because they are a foreign corporation based in India. But we can damn well kick them out, and we probably should.
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So what, in many cases people choose mates and friends based on their race preferences.
Many clients choose which businesses they will deal with based on the origin business owner (some prefer to frequent or to avoid Indian or Middle Eastern or Asian establishments for example).
People must be able to discriminate however they see fit and I am talking about people in their individual lives and I am also talking about businesses obviously.
Yes, it should be possible to discriminate based on race, absolutely. Race, age, sex, any form of discrimination must be absolutely legal (and by the way it is unconstitutional, illegal for the federal government to regulate businesses and the entire concept of interstate commerce does not allow government to regulate business, it is only there to prevent individual States from erecting barriers of entry, which are still all there, so the federal government is not doing what it's job is and instead it constantly harasses businesses for no reason whatsoever).
Now, government must not be able to discriminate against anybody based on age, race, sex, ethnicity but that is also constantly happening for example with the war on drugs, with the so called 'war on terrorism', with every war that government runs.
Government must not be able to discriminate because it destroys the rule of law, destroys the free market (which is already destroyed in USA of-course) and eventually destroys the economy and thus the society. Government must be forced to treat people equally regardless of their natural characteristics, individuals must not be forced into anything.
If you will not accept government forcing you to marry any particular person or to frequent any particular business then it is inconsistent for you to be cheering for the government forcing a business to either hire or to serve any particular person. Cheering for it is the real discrimination and helps the government to grow its gigantic poisonous tentacles that end up stealing and murdering everything on their path.
You can't handle the truth.
Americans can't compete in that arena.
In this case "can't" means not allowed to compete because they are discriminated against based on race.
Well, based on nationality, actually. American isn't a race.
Americans can't compete in that arena.
In this case "can't" means not allowed to compete because they are discriminated against based on race.
Actually, no... They are discriminated against based on salary expectations.
Have you seen how many companies that have outsourced to save money have ended up cancelling it because they need people that can actually do the work and not just phone answering list monkeys? There are more than a few.
Before any of the hypersensitive cretins that love to take everything the wrong way start yelling about racist comment or something equally inane, a "list monkey" is some that just reads down a list or script and displays no more skills than a trained monkey pushing buttons, aka a "list monkey". If you don't know what a trained monkey is, you are a sad excuse for someone that is supposed to be literate.
But it also says they discriminated in favor of Indians.
What's amazes me is how surprised white people are when they find out that other groups don't believe in non-discrimination as much as they do.
Around the world hiring those from one's own group is pretty standard practice.
You mean native Americans? First Nations peoples? That's the only "American race" I know of.
"Americans don't know $#!%"
If that's true, why is India scrambling to send all their children to U.S. colleges and universities? Sounds like just plain ole racism to me. I hope they get fined out the wazoo, have all their current contracts revoked and end up being banned from doing business in the U.S. (although the latter is probably never going to happen, we can dream).
Aren't they really discriminated against based on salary?
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...talking like employees are anything but serfs and like the USA is some sort of democracy instead of an increasingly minor subsection of an international oligarchy.
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But it also says they discriminated in favor of potential H1-B servants.
Fixed that for you.
That's the story. Infosys is nothing more than an H1-B mill.
I'm not a complete idiot... Some parts are missing.
Have you tried outsourcing within the US? We have to because of certain regulations? It's the same. Nothing to do with India or Indian outsourcers (or outsorcerors!). The business model of an outsourcing company is very similar to that of your building contractor. They'd like to stay on till the next big project is lined up and then they flee as fast as they can.
This can't be emphasized enough. Ignore the racist cries that the brown-skinned programmers aren't as good. The simple truth is: outsourcing blows goats. Hire your own, or move everything to the cloud if you must save a few bucks (and hire your own to stay on top of that).
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So, as long as I hire white South Africans, I don't have to have any negroes on my payroll?
Oh, what's that? There's more to the legal definition of "race" as it applies to anti-discrimination laws than a third-grade definition provided by an internet lawyer? Well! Imagine that!
Maybe on paper at first, but I had a team of Indian's replace me - I was a TAM (technical account manager for a really big software company). Basically it was 7 people replacing 1 person. I don't think those 7 people were cheaper than just me.
Also - I heard they lost nearly every single account I had - which was easily 12m a year in total.
Those Indians are some of the dumbest people around. I am not talking about lack of experience and knowledge, although many of them fall into that category too.
We had servers running out of disk space and rather than be proactive, they continued to treat each incident as they came up. This went on for years. Alerts were not taken seriously. IT would sit on tickets when they had no idea how to respond. The Indian staff would agree to take on all work even though there was no way they could do so; they would never tell you no or give differing view points. I got sick and tired of the company approved monitoring (which was not working) and installed my own monitoring using Nagios and Cacti, which sent alerts to technical engineering leads. IT supposedly used Puppet but only a few people in IT could make changes. In two weeks I wrote a system that could push out changes and implemented it over a weekend.
When I asked IT management how one person could do all this within 30 days (and I don't do grunt work anymore, I am middle level management) and IT could not do this in over 2 years with its staff, their response, "they are only L1s" I know teenagers with more skill than our staff.
The Indians lack initiative and common sense. It was explained to me by another Indian that it is cultural and not easy to change. Indians are "yes men", teams are run on consensus and projects are committee driven. They do well in large organizations like Oracle, Cisco, and SAP. They fail in small companies where people have to wear many hats and it is a sink or swim operation.
I asked many of our IT staff if they tinker with BSD or Linux systems at home. Nobody had such a system. When they go home they are off the clock and don't spend any time on work related tasks. So, they lack curiosity too. They are damn cheap, even though it kills our productivity.