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A Critical Look At Walter "Scorpion" O'Brien

1729 (581437) writes Back in August, there was speculation that the "real life" Walter O'Brien (alleged inspiration for CBS's new drama Scorpion) might be a fraud. Mike Masnick from Techdirt follows up on the story: "The more you dig, the more of the same you find. Former co-workers of O'Brien's have shown up in comments or reached out to me and others directly — and they all say the same thing. Walter is a nice enough guy, works hard, does a decent job (though it didn't stop him from getting laid off from The Capital Group), but has a penchant for telling absolutely unbelievable stories about his life. It appears that in just repeating those stories enough, some gullible Hollywood folks took him at his word (and the press did too), and now there's a mediocre TV show about those made up stories." Masnick's article is a fascinating look at a man who appears to have conned both TV executives and journalists into believing his far-fetched Walter Mitty fantasies.

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  1. Suspension of Disbelief by mythosaz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm happy to suspend disbelief for a good show. Scorpion is not a good show. It's impossible to suspend that much disbelief for the junk they threw at us.

    1. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by gurps_npc · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Totally true. They confabulate genius with autistic savant, they misrepresent what genius (or autistic savants) can do, and generally have no idea how "normal" people react.

      The basic problem is that the writers are not smart, let alone geniuses, so they simply do not know enough to write a show about geniuses.

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    2. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by Reason58 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The basic problem is that the writers are not smart, let alone geniuses, so they simply do not know enough to write a show about geniuses.

      Most of the viewers are not smart, let alone geniuses either.

    3. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Same problem as 'Big Bang Theory'.

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    4. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by Reason58 · · Score: 1

      And it is one of the most watched shows on TV.

    5. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      And it is one of the most watched shows on TV.

      I believe that proves the point. ;-)

      People watch American Idol as well ... that doesn't make it any good.

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    6. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by sexconker · · Score: 5, Funny

      Suspension of Disbelief: Spiderman exists and has super powers and is the only one capable of stopping The Lizard.

      Terrible Writing: Some guy in New York totally knows all the crane operators in New York, knows the location of Spiderman as well as his destination, and at a moments notice is able get all his crane operator buddies to line up a dozen or more cranes on building tops along a single street and extend them so that Spiderman may web sling from them.

      Hollywood: The cops hate Spiderman and want to capture him, but after seeing The Lizard they have a change of heart and love Spiderman. To show their newfound love for their new favorite superhero, a police helicopter hovering just above the roof Spiderman is on shines its spotlight onto the cranes that were lined up for him. Showing Spiderman the way to swing, swing, swing, swing, swing toward the Lizard Man is a nice gesture, but it would have been faster, easier, less dangerous, and a hell of a lot more practical to just give him a ride in the fucking helicopter.

    7. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by Animats · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's impossible to suspend that much disbelief for the junk they threw at us.

      Painfully true. I saw the pilot. I won't be watching any more episodes. The show didn't have to be that lame. In Tokyo Airport, a Japanese drama, a similar problem occurs. The controllers get out hand-held radios and their final backup, a big hand-held spotlight with red and green lenses.

      It's a painful demonstration of the fact that Hollywood has an idea shortage. Almost everything is either a sequel, or awful, or by Joss Whedon. The most successful trend in Hollywood now is mining old Marvel comic books for second and third tier characters who haven't had a movie yet. The second most successful trend is recycling novels from the Teen Paranormal Romance section.

      Then there's CBS, the Police Procedural Network.

    8. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      Somehow I happened to see a commercial for it. I say somehow because I no longer have a cable connection so wouldn't normally see commercials.

      Anyway, I watched the commercial for this new show and instantly recognized it was a complete and utter disaster, on multiple levels.

      Just the preview alone showed the execs were trying much too hard to make a show with suspense and/or cuteness. It's one thing to have someone be able to fool people. It's quite another for someone to deduce which hard drive to pull from a bank of hundreds to stop the explosion/traffic jam/whatever from occurring.

      However, one small bit I did like was as the lead character and someone else are racing through the streets, she, the driver, makes some comment about not using seat belts because the car has air bags. Scorpion replied to the effect, the air bags would make things worse at their speed. Therefore, drive faster.

      Aside from that, suspension of belief was impossible for anything the commercial showed.

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    9. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2

      I suspect those viewers are watching Ghost Hunters and happy with it. This is a show whose niche market is mostly disgusted with it.

    10. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Holy hell is this post ever going to come off as smug and condescending, but I have a point I want to make, and I can't express it less awfully.

      Entertainment and intelligence are basically oil and water, most of the time. You can take brilliant writers who are very smart people, and they don't write "intelligent" stuff for mass market entertainment. They just focus their intelligence into making good writing that is evocative to everyone. I wouldn't expect a brilliant screenplay to expect everyone in the audience to make the kind of deductions I know some people are capable of, to tie everything together super subtly as some kinda cleverness test(though the occasional piece like that is nice).

      In the same way, writers of all stripes(though mostly bad ones) write "smart" characters by filling their lines up with appropriate jargon. In some cases most familiar to slashdotters that means technobabble, but in others legalbabble, moneybabble, or psychobabble. They do this because actually coming up with intelligent things to say is hard and requires a lot of in depth knowledge of an appropriate field(there's an anecdote out there about the director of "A beautiful mind" expecting their math consultant to fill a chalkboard with genuinely intelligent math equations in an hour, as if that were no problem). And in the end that hard work doesn't come off to most people as nearly as intelligent as a bunch of nonsensical jargon.

      That brings me to my thesis: real genuine genius is only interesting to people equipped to break it down and understand how it's novel. And that has a lot more to do with field-specific domain knowledge than intelligence. For example, anyone versed in math can tell you that the triumph for a brilliant idea comes when you have an new notion of where to start deducing things, not when you write the final calculation down. And the formulation of a clever computer program comes way back in the architecture phase, not a few lines of coded jotted out at the last moment.

      You don't want it in most entertainment. It's nowhere near as satisfying as coming up with the right thing at the right moment to solve the problem facing you. It doesn't fit with the narrative format.

    11. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Damn...wish I could have thought of doing this and made some serious $$$ selling my story to the network.

      I've just been wasting my tall tales for free in the bars when getting hammered.

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    12. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      And it is one of the most watched shows on TV.

      I believe that proves the point. ;-)

      People watch American Idol as well ... that doesn't make it any good.

      Yes! Ding, ding ding: popular does not (necessarily) equal good
      (Review our current/historical crop of elected officials, fast-food chains, etc... for examples.)

      If this guy can keep this up, he has a big future as a TV "News" pundit (somewhere...)

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    13. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by onkelonkel · · Score: 2

      Just like the Big Mac is the most eaten burger.

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    14. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by plopez · · Score: 1

      Or people posting on /. for that matter ;)

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    15. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that it's specifically an intelligence problem. It's going to be essentially impossible to write a convincing 'genius' or distinguish him from a 'savant' unless both the writer and the audience have at least an approximate idea of how the difficulty level in their discipline is distributed.

      Computers are a horrific subject for that. People don't know what's easy, what's hard, what's suspected to be impossible but so far not proven to be, what would leave a *nix-using CS expert puzzled but be solved in moments by a geek squad kid who has fixed exactly the same broken update 30 times this week, and so on.

    16. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      So it's not possible for a non-idiot to be smart enough to intentionally write something that an idiot would like?

      Do you have any actual evidence for that remarkable claim?

    17. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by laie_techie · · Score: 1

      Totally true. They confabulate genius with autistic savant, they misrepresent what genius (or autistic savants) can do, and generally have no idea how "normal" people react.

      The basic problem is that the writers are not smart, let alone geniuses, so they simply do not know enough to write a show about geniuses.

      I say the same thing about The Big Bang Theory. Not everyone with a high IQ is socially awkward or OCD. For better or worse, the show is written to appeal to its intended audience. Hackers, The Matrix, and Jurassic Park took liberties to try and show "normals" how the world appears to hackers.

    18. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by msmonroe · · Score: 1

      I hate that show. It makes absolutely no sense to me; I swear I thought it was a show about some mentally handicapped people trying to live on their own. I had to have a friend explain to me the premise of the show.

    19. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by CaptainJeff · · Score: 2

      One can be "on" - or thinking critically and deeply - only so often. There is valid and merit in entertainment that causes one to not think/ponder/actively-consider for a period of time. Just because something does not require you to think about it and is incredibly stupid does not mean there isn't value in it, even if it does cause you to have to stop thinking things through logically for a period of time. Genius TV sticks with you. You *need* to think about it. You need to figure things out. Your brain can only do so much of this. If you're spending those cycles doing this, you are not using them for more noble purposes, such as thinking about things that actually matter. And that's a poor tradeoff.

    20. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      Most of the viewers are not smart, let alone geniuses either.

      The show isn't trying to portray smart people, it's trying to portray dumb people's idea of what smart people are probably like..

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    21. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      But in all fairness, both Mythbusters and Penn & Teller's Bullshit also portray dumb people's idea of smart people.

      So don't get smug over there. Yeah, I'm talking to you.

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    22. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by walterbyrd · · Score: 1

      They want their viewers to feel good about themselves. They figure their viewers are working class dopes.

      Also, they know there is a fascination with people who have high IQs, but are deficient in other ways.

    23. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by nine-times · · Score: 1

      That brings me to my thesis: real genuine genius is only interesting to people equipped to break it down and understand how it's novel. And that has a lot more to do with field-specific domain knowledge than intelligence.

      I think that's only really true when you're talking about writing a character who is supposed to be a field-specific genius, regarding whether that character is saying actual genius things.

      So for example, if you want to have a character that's a medical genius (e.g. Dr. House), then it might be hard to come up with medical deductions that are actually genius, and it's probably not worthwhile because almost none of your audience will know the difference. In cases like that, I don't mind writers coming up with some medical technobabble. The most I'd hope for is that it's somewhat plausible and doesn't sound stupid to a layman.

      However, I don't think that this means you have to be a genius to appreciate smart writing. You can appreciate an extremely well written character without being able to write good characters yourself. It's possible you could even write a very good character without understanding why it's such good writing. And even relatively stupid people can appreciate a comedic genius pulling together a brilliant joke.

      So I think that was part of what was behind the statement, "I'm happy to suspend disbelief for a good show." I'll accept some silly technobabble in a good show. I enjoyed House, and I don't care one bit if some of the medical jargon is wrong. But if it's a stupid show and the technobabble is noticeably stupid even to a layman, that's when there's a problem.

    24. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by mythosaz · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I enjoy BBT.

      While the idiosyncrasies of the characters are grossly exaggerated, and while Sheldon's character is rife with contradictions, I still find the show enjoyable for exactly what it is -- simple comedy. 22 minutes a week, most weeks, where I get to have a laugh with some familiar faces who stumble through the same sort of tried-and-true TV comedy tropes of shows past -- except this time it happens in places and settings and over topics I'm intimately familiar with. I've sat in a game store and had conversations about girlfriends over comic books. I've seen friends that needed rescued from 96 straight hours of WoW. Putting your basic "Cheers" comedy in this setting makes it something I can relate to.

      I can put aside Sheldon's conveniently-ignored-when-inconvenient logic as part of my suspension of disbelief.

      The show used to be about the "triangle" between Sheldon and Leonard and Penny. The show has evolved to a compare-and-contrast of the relationships of Shedon/Amy, Leonard/Penny and Howard/Bernadette. Even now we explore the relationships of Raj and his new girlfriend, and minor character Stewart and Howard's mom. I've grown up in the nerd world. I'm watching my younger friends get married now. I see the same compare and contrast.

      ...and non geeks can relate to this. They can relate to normal human interaction told in a funny way but in a slightly nerdier setting that most of them come from. People could laugh at Wings, even though they'd never worked in a regional airport...taking a plane flight or two probably helped though. You didn't have to be an alcoholic to like Cheers, you didn't have to serve in Korea to like MASH, and you didn't have to share an apartment in Manhattan to like Friends. You can hate all of those shows, of course, but it's possible to enjoy these shows from the outside looking in too.

      It's not perfect, but it's an enjoyable 22 minutes.

      Aside: If you enjoy Chuck Lorre's comedies AT ALL, I suggest tuning into "Mom." It's surprisingly dark with a wonderful cast who deal with real problems -- teen sex and pregnancy, alcohol and drug dependency, infidelity, money....real problems. It's not intended to be literal-serious, of course, but it's a wonderfully refreshing twist on what Chuck gives us.

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    25. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      ...[I]t would have been faster, easier, less dangerous, and a hell of a lot more practical to just give him a ride in the fucking helicopter.

      In before "Why didn't the eagles fly the One Ring to Mount Doom" and/or "Why didn't the eagles fly the company of Dwarves to the Lonely Mountain."

    26. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      I'm happy to suspend disbelief for a good show. Scorpion is not a good show. It's impossible to suspend that much disbelief for the junk they threw at us.

      The first episode was AWFUL. I think it has gotten better since then, though. It is absolutely not "great", but is a somewhat enjoyable "dumb action show".. I think "Person of Interest" is a better show, but both are completely ridiculous technologically, but they're both enjoyable "dumb action shows".

    27. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Yeah but they do not watch 'Big Bang Theory' for the abilities of the characters, they watch for the quirks and laughable moments.

      In fact, quite a few plot lines on other sitcom shows evolve or devolve around out of place people with idiosyncrasies. It's sort of a go to for Hollywood and it's ilk.

    28. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by thunderclap · · Score: 1

      I agree 100% with what OP said. However, to be brief, he basically said, that for entertainment to be interesting you have to have no understanding of the field at all. Those of us who aren't oil rig techs, miners or rocket scientists can love Armageddon. However, those who are those will generally hate it because it talks about stuff thats impossible. Tyson hated Gravity because he knew how wrong the physics of it was. Me, I though wow! thats amazing. I didn't know that could be possible. Our entertainment is never supposed to teach. Its suppose to amuse, delight, inspire, titillate, evoke (fear and awe) or bore.
      I Personally love Scorpion. I don't care if its real. Its real enough for me. No I don't expect that a person with no medical degree can solve a custom virus problem or save a file off of a internet router during a terrorist attack or download a file while moving at 200mph.
      However, I am not remotely interested in O'brien's life, it would be very dull. Nor do I find Big Bang Theory funny. Remember writing have to make you feel for it to be good. Boring isn't good.

    29. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by thunderclap · · Score: 1

      Most of the viewers are not smart, let alone geniuses either.

      The show isn't trying to portray smart people, it's trying to portray dumb people's idea of what smart people are probably like..

      Same could be said for Big Bang Theory. Look at how popular that is.

    30. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by thunderclap · · Score: 1

      Ok are you suggesting a comedy that revolves around a genius savant isn't comparable to a drama involving a team of said people. Honestly, the only different in Jim Parson's character and Ari Stidham's character is career choice and human body mass. They way Parson's plays Sheldon is actually inferior to Stidham because all he has to do is be funny. Lets see him play Sheldon as straight,serious in a cross over episode. It won't happen. So A equals B because A and B are roughly the same thing. The fact you can't see that, implies you are refusing to pay attention or unwilling to.

    31. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by thunderclap · · Score: 1

      Its hollywood's superiority complex. Those people want to feel like they are superior to everyone. If you watch (or your teen watches) Red band society, Hollywood is Kara and we are that Nurse that has to monitor her. For those of you who don't. Hollywood believes its the in crowd and the popular cliche. Thats why they never protray anyone accurately. Its hard to when the only thing you see in the inside of your own ass.

    32. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by thunderclap · · Score: 1

      Suspension of Disbelief: Spiderman exists and has super powers and is the only one capable of stopping The Lizard.

      Terrible Writing: Some guy in New York totally knows all the crane operators in New York, knows the location of Spiderman as well as his destination, and at a moments notice is able get all his crane operator buddies to line up a dozen or more cranes on building tops along a single street and extend them so that Spiderman may web sling from them.

      Hollywood: The cops hate Spiderman and want to capture him, but after seeing The Lizard they have a change of heart and love Spiderman. To show their newfound love for their new favorite superhero, a police helicopter hovering just above the roof Spiderman is on shines its spotlight onto the cranes that were lined up for him. Showing Spiderman the way to swing, swing, swing, swing, swing toward the Lizard Man is a nice gesture, but it would have been faster, easier, less dangerous, and a hell of a lot more practical to just give him a ride in the fucking helicopter.

      Reality: Spiderman gets bit and dies a horrible death, The lizard is captured by several bullets to the chest and heat and is disected by some doc in washington and we never notice anything.

    33. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by thunderclap · · Score: 1

      ...[I]t would have been faster, easier, less dangerous, and a hell of a lot more practical to just give him a ride in the fucking helicopter.

      In before "Why didn't the eagles fly the One Ring to Mount Doom" and/or "Why didn't the eagles fly the company of Dwarves to the Lonely Mountain."

      Because the eagles would have been corrupted (the one ring corrupted everything, thats why it was sought by Sauron. Its evil. As for the dwarves, because walking to Lonely mountain creates character and creates a second useless movie for Hollywood to shove at us.

    34. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by thunderclap · · Score: 1

      Hey CBS still has Survivor and the Amazing Race. And what is wrong with Joss Whedon?

    35. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by Isaac-1 · · Score: 1

      True, but Big Bang does a great job of getting it with nerd culture although perhaps in a self deprecating way. Where Scropion just blows it with idiots trying to pretend to be smart. It is the classic problem of the person with an IQ of 135 thinking they are the smartest person in the room, where the person with an IQ of 155 often thinks they are not. The difference being they tend to be in different rooms and different social crowds. It really all comes down to one problem smart people can recognize other smart people, or people that are smarter than themselves, stupid people can only do the second part.

    36. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by Isaac-1 · · Score: 1

      Antenna's are great for breaking news, particularly when it is breaking world news happening in your back yard. My personal example is when a space shuttle happens to break up above where you live and is raining down around you.

    37. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      On network TV? No, not for decades. There's 'Benny Hill'. Maybe 'PeeWee's Playhouse'.

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    38. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by LessThanObvious · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I can only say to him. Well done - Sir. Hollywood could use a taste of that after the hacker themed swill we've seen like "Swordfish" and "The Net". Fun stories perhaps, but written by people with zero subject matter comprehension.

    39. Re: Suspension of Disbelief by jd2112 · · Score: 2

      I can think of TWO good reasons to watch Swordfish..

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    40. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by Eristone · · Score: 2

      There's a simple answer to this one from Oglaf:

      http://oglaf.com/ornithology/

      (note - while this particular entry is safe enough, in general this comic is *highly* NSFW - and may flag depending on which blockers your employers use)

    41. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Comic book universe. That's why Spiderman could never take a ride in a helicopter.

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    42. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by retchdog · · Score: 1

      and to think that once upon a time we had the naive belief that the arts themselves could spark and inspire thought about these noble purposes, so that your dichotomy would not apply.

      fortunately we've gotten over that silly notion; now, get back to your drudge work and be happy to enjoy your optimized video experience.

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    43. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Which says nothing about the claim. Well actually I guess is disproves it via counter example if you now saying those are two examples of what you claimed was impossible?

    44. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Entertainment and intelligence are basically oil and water

      Only if you equate entertainment with some popular TV shows.

      It's like writing off cinema as an art form because Transformers 2 was popular.

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    45. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Popularity in and of itself is a very strong measure

      It's a very strong measure of popularity.

      Popularity and quality are orthogonal. Measuring one tells you nothing about the other.

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    46. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Antenna's are great for breaking news, particularly when it is breaking world news happening in your back yard. My personal example is when a space shuttle happens to break up above where you live and is raining down around you.

      If I was being bombarded with burning chunks of metal raining from the sky, I don't think my first reaction would be "ooh, better turn on the TV to see what's happening".

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    47. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
      1) Compare to the Big Bang TV show. The show itself is not to my liking, but they at least write intelligent people as intelligent. Entertainment and intelligence are NOT basically oil and water - unless you have stupid people trying to write intelligent people.

      2) I was not complaining about the lines in scorpion. No, that was actually reasonably done. I am instead talking about the ACTIONS. No smart person in their right mind would ever try to connect a physical hard line from a moving airplane to a car. They would find a way to boost the reception allowing the car to receive the broadcast information.

      3) Real genius is interesting to EVERYONE. It's not about the coding, it's about the actions taken. Smart people are NOT 'just smart about one thing', they are smart about a lot of things. If you are only smart about one thing, you generally are an autistic savant. You want a great example of a smart person written as smart? Watch the Raccoon in the Guardians of the Galaxy. He doesn't talk one wit about what he is doing, but just watching him play practical jokes makes you understand how smart he is - in addition to him constructing machines on the fly.

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    48. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by OklahomaRed · · Score: 1

      Its very interesting fiction. I have worked with a couple of folks with IQ's that were off the chart that worked outside the box and delivered wonderfully elegant solutions. They can't deliver them on cue or deliver every time. One took two years to write 20 lines of code.

      Only idiot savants deliver on cue and they do it every time. I knew one rather well with an IQ in the 60's he followed simple instructions very well. He could keep track of the location, moment, ownership and place in the ginning rotation of at least 2,000 cotton trailers, all in his head. I don't think he could read or write. He was one of the cotton gins greatest human asserts.

      Red

    49. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by cwsumner · · Score: 1

      Most of the viewers are not smart, let alone geniuses either.

      The show isn't trying to portray smart people, it's trying to portray dumb people's idea of what smart people are probably like..

      Don't be an elitist ! Many of the people out there are smarter than you are, even if you are very smart.

      That's not to say you are wrong. That's Hollywood's problem, they don't realise that the audiance is smarter than they are...
      Just because we will watch entertaining drivil, doesn't mean we would not appreciate something better.
      But it has to actually be better, not just bigger words.

    50. Re: Suspension of Disbelief by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      is it breasts?

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    51. Re:Suspension of Disbelief by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      It is an action version of the BBT.

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  2. Then, he's the writer of the series? by BringsApples · · Score: 1

    I don't understand why it'd matter. Just look at him as the writer of the series.

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    1. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by 1729 · · Score: 1

      I don't understand why it'd matter. Just look at him as the writer of the series.

      He's been all over the media promoting his super-genius consulting company, and CBS has been running news stories proclaiming his "achievements":

      http://losangeles.cbslocal.com...
      http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/...
      http://boston.cbslocal.com/201...

    2. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't understand why it'd matter

      From the sounds of it ... he's making some pretty deluded statements about his life, passing them off as if they're true, and then selling it to people who are making it into TV which says 'based on a true story'. In many places, that's called fraud when you financially gain from it.

      Why, when I first carved the internet out of an old bar of soap, I took the left over soap scraps and molded them into the prototype of the first iPod, but Steve Jobs and I got drunk and I forgot all about it until years later. I told Al Gore he could keep the whole internet thing as long as we made sure to put plenty of porn in it.

      And then my wife, Morgan Fairchild (who I've slept with) and I decided to go on an around the world cruise in our giant yacht, and by the time I was done rescuing all the baby seals, Apple was already marketing it. I swear, between the sea-sickness and the size of my giant penis, poor Morgan could barely walk for weeks.

      Why only the other week, Warren Buffet was calling me to ask why I never filed a patent, and BTW, what do I think of HP splitting into two companies. I told him I don't have a lot of time to explain market fundamentals to him, and suggested he reads Investing for Dummies" first. And, besides, I'm still on retainer with HP as their shadow CEO, so it would be unethical.

      I'd tell you why Kim Jong Il has been out of the public eye for a while, but I'm sworn to secrecy for the next twenty years. Fortunately, me am Obama were chilling over steaks the other night, and he had a good laugh about it. At least I can talk to someone about this. The Secret Service guys are really cool, and sometimes let me shoot the guns, and the airforce pilots let me show them how to do a hammerhead in airforce one. Good times. You wouldn't believe what they've got in the secret fortress under Camp David, though. All I can say is Area 51 isn't where the really cool stuff is.

      Basically, it boils down to credibility. Sure, have all the fiction you want. But if you are passing it off as fact, and someone is failing to check if any of it's true, and then subsequently pass it off as fact ... they're morons.

      It sounds like this guy has been going around making extraordinary claims, and nobody has had the slightest inclination to challenge him on it.

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    3. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by Soch · · Score: 2

      Yeah. And. So. What?

      He can tell whatever stories he wants to in order to promote himself or his business. Lies in those situations are to be expected.
      CBS is the group responsible, in this case, for determining how much is verifiable. If you're surprised that the news isn't fact checking well, then you've not been watching the news for the past decade or so.

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    4. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      I call it 'Dan Browning.'

    5. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by WrongMonkey · · Score: 1

      You should call up CBS with your life story. I'd watch that show.

    6. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by taustin · · Score: 1

      From the sounds of it ... he's making some pretty deluded statements about his life, passing them off as if they're true, and then selling it to people who are making it into TV which says 'based on a true story'. In many places, that's called fraud when you financially gain from it.

      In Hollywood, however, it's called "a day that ends in 'y'."

      "Based on a true story" means "based on the title of a book that you might recognize." If you don't know that, you should be kept in a home for the mentally insufficient, for your own safety.

      It sounds like this guy has been going around making extraordinary claims, and nobody has had the slightest inclination to challenge him on it.

      Why would they? It doesn't make any difference whatsoever if the producers (or network) believe him in any way. It doesn't matter how credible he is.. All that matters is if they think they can sell more advertising during the show than they think they could during a different show. They thought they could.

      I expect they're wrong on that, But that's hardly unusual, either.

    7. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      Although Dan Brown's books do require extreme suspension of disbelief, I've never heard any claims that the author actually experienced any of the same kind of events in his life, which is what people are having a problem with in this case.

    8. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      "Based on a True Story" leads us to "Inspired by Actual Events" which is synonymous with "I made this crap up."

    9. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by BringsApples · · Score: 1

      From the sounds of it ... he's making some pretty deluded statements about his life, passing them off as if they're true, and then selling it to people who are making it into TV which says 'based on a true story'.

      Perfect answer. I didn't know that the show was 'based on a true story', but then again, I don't watch tv at all.

      Interestingly enough, yesterday I was lost in YouTube and ended up looking at some clips that had to do with folks going around telling others that they were Navy SEALs, and how some real Navy SEALs would give them hella shit about it. I wonder if any of this guy's BS had gained the attention of anyone that could debunk it. I guess not.

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    10. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by 1729 · · Score: 1

      If you're surprised that the news isn't fact checking well, then you've not been watching the news for the past decade or so.

      I'm not surprised, but does that mean we should just be complacent? News should be based on verifiable facts. When it's not, we -- the viewers -- should call them out on it.

    11. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by Jstlook · · Score: 1

      I'm more inclined to believe that hollywood was just figuring that the TV show would be more believeable / watchable if they had a "based on a true story" element to it, and rewrote his backstory to fall in line with the show.

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    12. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      "Based on a true story" means "based on the title of a book that you might recognize." If you don't know that, you should be kept in a home for the mentally insufficient, for your own safety.

      'Based on' should be on Wikipedia's list of weasel words. True story:

      A guy was bitten by a spider.

      Based on this true story:

      A guy was bitten by a spider and turned into spiderman!

      You can recognise the true story from the film, but that's not why you watch the film...

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    13. Re:Then, he's the writer of the series? by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      The Da Vinci code famously includes the line:

      FACT:... All descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents, and secret rituals in this novel are accurate.

      They were not accurate.

      I think the difference is, I get the impression that this Scorpion guy believes his own bullshit to a degree.

  3. I watched half an episode by tekrat · · Score: 2

    And decided it wasn't worth my time. It's not just a crap show, it's a fake crap show and there's no way it's based on anybody's life, any more than that Lazzarr guy worked on an Alien Spacecraft at Area 51. If you believe any of that crap, I've got a nice bridge to sell you.

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    1. Re:I watched half an episode by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      You'd probably be more successful if you offered to coat the bridge in tin-foil free of charge.

    2. Re:I watched half an episode by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      If you believe any of that crap, I've got a nice bridge to sell you.

      Where is it located and how much are you asking for it?

    3. Re:I watched half an episode by knarfling · · Score: 1

      If you believe any of that crap, I've got a nice bridge to sell you.

      Where is it located and how much are you asking for it?

      We can discuss where it is later. The bridge is only $1,000 US dollars, but I do require shipping and handling in advance. (FedEx Rates, of course.)

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    4. Re:I watched half an episode by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Everybody knows it was Brent Spiner who worked on the Alien spacecraft at Area 51!

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    5. Re:I watched half an episode by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      I don't like receiving my packages unbroken, could we use UPS instead?

    6. Re:I watched half an episode by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      It seemed easy to make that conclusion from the advertisements.

    7. Re:I watched half an episode by mythosaz · · Score: 1

      You have to keep a tight circle of trust. Can't let too many people in.

    8. Re:I watched half an episode by knarfling · · Score: 1

      I don't like receiving my packages unbroken, could we use UPS instead?

      ummm.... perhaps I should clarify. While charging "shipping and handling" implies that something will be shipped, I did not actually say that the bridge would be shipped. Only that you would be charged shipping and handling fees at FedEx rates.

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    9. Re:I watched half an episode by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Because he's a scientist and if Hollywood has taught me anything it's that, once you get to a certain level of proficiency as a scientist, you can instantly turn your mind to anything and understand it.

      Actually, most physicists I've met seem to believe this too...

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  4. Confused about summary by ralphsiegler · · Score: 2

    So a person's story used to make a fictional drama for entertainment purposes on TV turns out to be fictional drama made for entertainment?

    1. Re:Confused about summary by 1729 · · Score: 1

      The linked article should clarify a bit: O'Brien is using the news stories about his "genius" to promote his consulting business.

  5. Good for him! by briancox2 · · Score: 1

    So let's suppose he's a "fake". He would therefor be guilty of turning a lie into a profitable entertainment venture.

    Isn't that exactly how every author, producer and actor makes their living?

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    1. Re:Good for him! by briancox2 · · Score: 1

      No.

      You believe Henry Cavill has super powers?

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  6. Fraud? by Soch · · Score: 1

    The guy told exaggerated or made up stories about himself. People who are TV writers made a TV show out of them. None of that is fraud.

    Even if the writers believed him - and I think that's doubtful - he's still just telling tall-tales to writers who then write about them.

    The writers are crappy writers anyway. Let them write crap.

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    1. Re:Fraud? by sexconker · · Score: 1

      He owns a consulting business, and he's using these bullshit stories (and the show) to promote it.

  7. O'Brien's fascination with 2600 by tekrat · · Score: 2

    He has claimed that his misused image recognition software caused 2600 casualties in the Iraq war, and also later claims that Scorpion has 2600 employees across the globe...

    What's his fascination with this number? I think Emmanuel Goldstein (Eric Corely), publisher of 2600 Magazine, has grounds to sue. And so does Captain Crunch (John Draper).

    I'm willing to bet this guy couldn't program his way out a paper bag, and I've known and befriended hackers who were many times smarter than this fraud.

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    1. Re:O'Brien's fascination with 2600 by sexconker · · Score: 2

      I've known and befriended hackers who were many times smarter than this fraud.

      I've known and befriended quackers who were many times smarter than this fraud. Actual ducks.

    2. Re:O'Brien's fascination with 2600 by dysmal · · Score: 1

      Maybe he just misses his Atari 2600 after seeing the butchered plot behind Destiny and everyone is missing the real message.

  8. mediocre eh? That's not even coming close to it. by BenLutgens · · Score: 1

    It's bloody horrible. It's so loaded with fake, unbelievable nonsense it's not even watchable. In episode one, they were racing a ferrari or a lambo or something underneath a jumbo jet, so that they jumbo jet could drop an ethernet cable down to a waiting hot chick who inserted it into a laptop. 2 seconds later they had magically retrieve a backup of the communication software for the fucking air traffic control towers. Which they then uploaded to every air traffic control tower in the country so they can FINALLY land all those planes.

    Aside from ogling catherine mcphee or whatever her name is, there was NOTHING watchable about this epicly bad pile of rancid monkey shit.

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  9. Mediocre? How about godawful? Terrible? by enjar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I watched the first episode but only made it to the part where the stereotypical Asian woman was telling the stereotypical black government agent to not shoot the Radio Shack quality keypad at the "data center" that was obviously a self-storage vault, after the rest of the contrived story line (yes, of course, the aviation industry has no backup plans for backup plans if a tower goes dark and EVERYONE WILL DIE ; emergency vehicles in LA are only allowed to use the freeway and cannot bypass traffic ; you have to drive to a data center to get a hard drive ; software at an air traffic control sysem is only backed up 12 hours, every five minutes), collection of stereotypes (the Smart Ethnic People, The Guy in the Bowler Hat, The Unknown Genius Kid and The Misunderstood Autistic Guy. Not to mention The Eye Candy Waitress Who Isn't Just Eye Candy And Tells You About It) and over-used hacking tropes (I just hacked your video camera system from a diner in three seconds).

    I turned the TV off and read a book about a English policeman who is also a wizard, which was far more believable that the utter crap which Scorpion was. I read a lot of science fiction and fantasy, so I'm not opposed to the fantastic and/or the outlandish -- but Scorpion just pulled the same old tired crap out of the file, changed the names, crapped out a script, spent a pile of money and called it done. There are other shows on television with fantastic or scifi elements that are entertaining and fun to watch -- Doctor Who and Sleepy Hollow to name two current series, and there have been plenty in the past which have done a credible job -- The X-Files, Fringe, Alias, LOST, Battlestar Galactica, Star Trek, 24 to name a few. Some varied from "light mind candy" (e.g. Alias showed off Jennifer Garner's abs at 30 minutes in every time) to serious business (LOST, BSG), but Scorpion just missed on everything -- plot, story, characters, originality. It's just terrible to watch.

    1. Re:Mediocre? How about godawful? Terrible? by taustin · · Score: 1

      Dude, you missed the best part, at the end, when they're driving a Ferrari under the jet liner that's flying eight feet off the runway, with the copilot sitting on the lowered landing gear dangling an Ethernet cable down to the car so they could grab a copy of the magic software off the plane's flight systems.

      It was so ridiculous, I kept looking for Bruce Campbell with a chainsaw for a hand. What made it funny was how earnest they were about it all. How anyone could keep a straight face long enough to finish a single scene, I don't know. Funniest new show of the season. Far funnier than any of the comedies, like Two and a Half Years Past When It Should Have Been Canceled And The Entire Cast Put in a Home. Or Mysteries of Laura, which is based on the premise that using police powers to blackmail your children (who had been kicked out of preschool for peeing on each other) in to a new preschool, then drugging the children to keep them quiet while interviewing with the headmistress, well, that's the funniest shit on television.

    2. Re:Mediocre? How about godawful? Terrible? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I turned the TV off and read a book about a English policeman who is also a wizard, which was far more believable that the utter crap which Scorpion was

      Rivers of London series, by any chance?

    3. Re:Mediocre? How about godawful? Terrible? by enjar · · Score: 1

      Yes, indeed. I'm reading the fourth book (Broken Homes) now and I'm really enjoying his writing style, the setting, the characters -- pretty much the whole package.

    4. Re:Mediocre? How about godawful? Terrible? by enjar · · Score: 1

      I kept looking for Bruce Campbell with a chainsaw for a hand.

      I'd take Bruce Campbell with a boomstick. Or heck, even Bruce Campbell as Sam Axe. Or Bruce Campbell as Elvis Presley.

      At least when Bruce is on the screen you know it's not all that serious. As an aside, if you ever get the opportunity to see "Evil Dead Live", I highly recommend the show.

    5. Re:Mediocre? How about godawful? Terrible? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I finished that one just a few weeks ago. Thankfully the next one is due out in a month or so. :)

      Hopefully there's not too much of a lag for the audiobook - they make the 4 hour drive to Dr. Girlfriend's place up north much more bearable, and Kobna Holbrook-Smith definitely does the writing justice.

      Yes, indeed. I'm reading the fourth book (Broken Homes) now and I'm really enjoying his writing style, the setting, the characters -- pretty much the whole package.

      And they're just fun to read. :) That's frequently missing these days, with all the crapsack countries and grimdark being all the rage.

    6. Re:Mediocre? How about godawful? Terrible? by enjar · · Score: 1

      I agree. I read a lot of Golden Age scifi when I was growing up, and there was a lot of unbridled optimism out there. Humanity was going to expand to the stars, and it was going to be (mostly) wonderful. Nowadays, it's really hard to find that. I read a pile of Discworld books, which were fun for a while, but they became very formulaic. Great light reading, though. I also picked up The Expanse, which was grittier, but was still fun reading that kept me going.

      My "ultimate dark" book is Cormac Mc Carthy's "The Road". I read it exactly once. It was very well written but I won't read it again.

    7. Re:Mediocre? How about godawful? Terrible? by david.given · · Score: 1

      For me it was Nicholas Montserrat's The Cruel Sea. A brilliant, brilliant book, but it was clearly written as therapy after a hellish time on the WW2 North Sea convoys, and by god it shows.

      Peter Grant books: awesome, waiting for Foxglove Summer to show up. The Expanse: pretty awesome, although the authors have definitely been reading their Neal Asher; who these days pretty much defines the cheerful big-things-exploding-in-space genre.

      Never heard of Scorpion. Never heard of the guy in the article. Sounds like I haven't missed much. And if you'll excuse me, I need to get on with Ancillary Sword...

  10. Pilot episode was unwatchable by BLToday · · Score: 1

    Pilot episode was unwatchable. Characters were annoying caricature of "nerds". I wanted to punch people at CBS after about 15 minutes.

  11. Based on true story by justcauseisjustthat · · Score: 1

    "Based on true story" can mean only one fact is in the whole story, it's Hollywood. Relax people! It's entertainment , either watch it or don't, hate it or love it or anywhere in between.

  12. Stay in perspectve... by NReitzel · · Score: 1

    Yeah, the show is mediocre, but it starts off with an end tag so what do you expect. I saw the end of the show first and wound back to see if they had started with a matching open tag, but no. Nobody there has a clue what they are, just "web stuff."

    Look, compared to network tv shows, it's in the top third. Would you rather have another reality show about an ugly woman and her abusive husband who both have an IQ of 98?

    See if you can maintain a perspective on all this.

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    1. Re:Stay in perspectve... by enjar · · Score: 1

      Look, compared to network tv shows, it's in the top third. Would you rather have another reality show about an ugly woman and her abusive husband who both have an IQ of 98?

      I've started grouping any recreational activity like television, music, movies, reading, video games, web surfing as "entertainment". So any arbitrary television show might have to compete against a decent novel I've wanted to read, a new album from a band I like, a video game I'm working through, watching a movie I've heard about and checking my Facebook feed. In all those cases, there are good examples of better entertainment available to me that are better than Scorpion. I've only got so much time before I shuffle off this mortal coil, and I already know I likely won't have time for all of it. Why waste time on sub-par entertainment when there are so many great examples out there to choose from and a limited amount of time in which to enjoy them?

    2. Re:Stay in perspectve... by taustin · · Score: 1

      Would you rather have another reality show about an ugly woman and her abusive husband who both have an IQ of 98?

      Or Sex Box. Because "Naked Dating" was such a smash hit.

  13. This show made my brain sad by uvsc_wolverine · · Score: 5, Informative

    I watched 10 minutes of it the other night (on accident I swear!) and had to spend another 10 minutes explaining to my wife why I was laughing so hard. They were tracking down some cyber-bad guy (ugh) through the internet and one of the characters stopped working to do the obligatory "I'm going to explain how the internet works to the seasoned tech-illiterate detective who fears technology" part of the episode. He then proceeded to explain how data flows through many points on the internet to get where it needs to go (okay so far). He told the cop that these points are called (I am NOT kidding) "Router-hubs". These router-hubs each keep a "shadow copy" of every document (shut up shut up SHUT UP!) that flows through them for months (what the hell?) and that they could find the document they needed by going to some random data center with one of these router-hubs (it hurts to type that) and getting the shadow copy.

    Then they went to some random building start doing things on a computer next to a long row of what appeared to be rack-mounted LED lights. Oh, and there was a smokey haze in the DC for some reason. Probably some atmospheric bullcrap. Anyway this show does have entertainment value, but only if you look at it as a parody.

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    1. Re:This show made my brain sad by Isaac-1 · · Score: 1

      After seeing the exact same scene, I turned to my wife and said thats nice and all if the internet actually worked that way

    2. Re:This show made my brain sad by garutnivore · · Score: 1

      Yep, I saw that very scene because my wife watches it and I happened to be around, and I also had to explain to my wife why I was laughing derisively.

      I'm sure some hack can spin our common laughter into a story about how watching Scorpion is a communal experience for people in tech fields.

    3. Re:This show made my brain sad by Trogre · · Score: 1

      These router-hubs each keep a "shadow copy" of every document (shut up shut up SHUT UP!) that flows through them for months (what the hell?) and that they could find the document they needed by going to some random data center with one of these router-hubs (it hurts to type that) and getting the shadow copy.

      They're probably not far from the truth there but more by accident than anything else. The "router-hubs" are just installed and maintained by the NSA.

      Lol "rack-mounted LED lights".

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    4. Re:This show made my brain sad by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Probably some atmospheric bullcrap.

      Awesome phrase.

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    5. Re:This show made my brain sad by lippydude · · Score: 1

      @uvsc_wolverine: "I watched 10 minutes of it the other night (on accident I swear!) and had to spend another 10 minutes explaining to my wife why I was laughing so hard"

      It's worse than I would have thought possible, see links to screenshots from episode one .. btw, can a magnet erase a harddrive enclosed in a hot-swappable caddy? .. ref ref

  14. This is news? by wcrowe · · Score: 1

    The way I see it, the only possible problem is that the network claims that the show is based on real life. Otherwise, pretty much everything on TV is a made up story, including everything on "reality" shows, some of the stuff on the news, and perhaps even the occasional sporting event.

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  15. Re:What? A CBS show is a fraud? No way! by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    Modern day gladiators. I.e. the "circuses."

  16. It's not about the show! by 1729 · · Score: 3

    For everyone saying "it's just a show": that's not the problem. Walter O'Brien is using his credibility from his show to promote himself as a real super-genius consultant. He has news programs touting him as the person who solved the Boston marathon bombings. He spent two hours on the radio last night promoting his "concierge" service. It's not just a bad TV show; the guy is perpetrating a real-life fraud.

  17. Michael Synergy by Trixter · · Score: 1

    There will always be people willing to capitalize on the ignorance of others. O'Brien may be laughable, but he wasn't the first, nor was Michael Synergy, nor will either of them be the last.

  18. Thank you! It's about Walter IRL by databeast · · Score: 3

    thank you.. This is the problem, this assclown is representing his delusions as state of the art in the Infosec world. None of us in that community had heard of this dude before.

    We have enough problems with the world at large assuming that everything we do is magic. Walter's bullshit is actively damaging to our field.

  19. Re:Who cares if he lied? by databeast · · Score: 1

    Because CBS keeps pushing news articles that present Walter as a respected expert in the infosec industry. None of us had heard of him before the show. He does not speak for us.

  20. Isn't everybody on TV a genius? by walterbyrd · · Score: 3, Funny

    On TV, an IQ as low Albert Einstein's (165?) is a joke.

    Big Bang Theory, Fringe, Criminal Minds, etc; I think everybody has an IQ of 190, or better.

    Furthermore, I would think that everybody on slashdot would know that computer security is all about high speed car chases and gun fights. It's not as if computer security people just sit around in front of computers all day.

  21. Recycling of old brands by steveha · · Score: 1

    Hollywood has an idea shortage.

    True, but there is another point you might want to consider: media fragmentation.

    It used to be that there were only three TV networks, and most people could only see a movie by going to the theatre (which didn't have 12 different screens in those days either). For music, there were a limited number of radio stations.

    Now, there are many different cable channels, plus YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, Spotify, Rhapsody, and DVD rentals or purchases. For consumers this is great, because you can watch what you like, when you like it.

    But Hollywood is unhappy because it's much harder now to build a new franchise. As a result, Hollywood is recycling old franchises, even if the end product has very little to do with the original.

    For a bonus, many people who have purchasing power now have fond memories of things they watched as kids.

    Thus, you have crazy stuff like the Battleship movie; I'm pretty sure they literally started with the brand name, and ginned up a movie project to put on it. I submit to you that Battleship isn't an example of scraping the barrel for ideas, but rather an example of jump-starting the marketing for a movie by building off a well-known pre-existing brand. It's gotta be the same thing with Tetris: we have this brand, how can we leverage it to sell movies?

    Many of the reboots and sequels have little to do with the original source material; and I think in many cases Hollywood just took some script and said "we can shoehorn this into a pre-existing franchise" and did it.

    Also, in my opinion the reason Guardians of the Galaxy was so successful was that it was made with love, and well-made at that; the third-tier Marvel characters are so obscure that they didn't really bring much to the marketing. I, for one, saw it because the previews made it look fun and because I read some really favorable reviews.

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    1. Re:Recycling of old brands by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Thus, you have crazy stuff like the Battleship movie; I'm pretty sure they literally started with the brand name, and ginned up a movie project to put on it. I submit to you that Battleship isn't an example of scraping the barrel for ideas, but rather an example of jump-starting the marketing for a movie by building off a well-known pre-existing brand.

      I always assumed that someone realised Rihanna would look good running around in uniform and firing a machine gun, and fit the movie round that.

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  22. The Real Story by koan · · Score: 1

    Isn't this person, it's how useless news media is and how little fact checking goes on.

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  23. Re:What? A CBS show is a fraud? No way! by Thud457 · · Score: 1
    too easy:
    • Survivor - starving people struggle to survive while uncaring overseers with video cameras heartlessly record their plight
    • Amazing Race - people, probably ones who escaped from the island in Survivor, flee pursuit while overseers with cameras record their crimes against the state
    • Thursday Night Football - FFA - Future Felons of America
    • CSI / Miami / New York - DNA always tells the truth
    • Bluebloods - The elite Chief of Police presides over a nepotistic dynasty, as is right.
    • Person of Interest - hackers can't escape from the loving all-seeing AI
    • NCIS / Los Angeles / New Orleans / JAG - we'll get you if you fuck with the Navy.
    • Two Broke Girls - occupy Brooklyn
    • Two and a Half Men - perennial loser's son is one of the disappeared. Stay in line, don't let this happen to you.
    • Hawaii Five O - again, don't fuck with the Navy.
    • The Mentalist - we can read your mind, resistance if futile. And the police will lie and trick you.
    • Mike an Molly - police officers are likable normal joes, not crazed thugs with pepperspray and tazers.
    • The Good Wife - a party apparatchik leverages her political connections to get ahead.
    • Madam Secretary - hey look, we're really good guys, we don't really want to bomb you. but you need bombing.
    • Big Bang Theory - ok, I have to use my lifeline on this one...
    • Scorpion - hackers can be good, too. They work for the State.
    • Elementary - Winston Smith solves crimes for the police.
    • Criminal Minds - that's you. There's no escape.
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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  24. Cap'n crunch by operagost · · Score: 2

    The number "2600" appears a lot in his stories. Phreaker wannabe?

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  25. actually, I find MXC entertaining... by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    I really don't understand why "OW MY BALLS!" isn't a real show on Spike. Or SyFy.

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    1. Re:actually, I find MXC entertaining... by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      give it time.

      Cowell just hasn't seen the pilot yet.

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      Political debates have me rolling my eyes so much I think I got optical whiplash. I should sue. - Foamy The Squirrel
  26. Re:Frank Dux by mythosaz · · Score: 1

    LA Times article on Dux.

    http://articles.latimes.com/19...

  27. Re:You mean by sumdumass · · Score: 1

    More like Chuck Barris and his confessions of a dangerous mind.

  28. Re:What? A CBS show is a fraud? No way! by thunderclap · · Score: 1

    too easy:

    • Survivor - starving people struggle to survive while uncaring overseers with video cameras heartlessly record their plight
    • Amazing Race - people, probably ones who escaped from the island in Survivor, flee pursuit while overseers with cameras record their crimes against the state
    • Thursday Night Football - FFA - Future Felons of America
    • CSI / Miami / New York - DNA always tells the truth
    • Bluebloods - The elite Chief of Police presides over a nepotistic dynasty, as is right.
    • Person of Interest - hackers can't escape from the loving all-seeing AI
    • NCIS / Los Angeles / New Orleans / JAG - we'll get you if you fuck with the Navy.
    • Two Broke Girls - occupy Brooklyn
    • Two and a Half Men - perennial loser's son is one of the disappeared. Stay in line, don't let this happen to you.
    • Hawaii Five O - again, don't fuck with the Navy.
    • The Mentalist - we can read your mind, resistance if futile. And the police will lie and trick you.
    • Mike an Molly - police officers are likable normal joes, not crazed thugs with pepperspray and tazers.
    • The Good Wife - a party apparatchik leverages her political connections to get ahead.
    • Madam Secretary - hey look, we're really good guys, we don't really want to bomb you. but you need bombing.
    • Big Bang Theory - annoying geniuses who make the bmbs for those who need bombing like ISIS
    • Scorpion - hackers can be good, too. They work for the State.
    • Elementary - Winston Smith solves crimes for the police.
    • Criminal Minds - that's you. There's no escape.

    Fixed that for you. However, some do need bombing. Really.

  29. Ah, there's your problem... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    The basic problem is that the writers are not smart, let alone geniuses, so they simply do not know enough to write a show about geniuses.

    ...right there.

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  30. So the shows are actually based on his stories? by bad_fx · · Score: 1

    Because if so then I sort of admire the guy, because that is some EPIC level trolling he's managed to pull off:

    I've only seen one clip of the show, but I kid you not it was some of the dumbest "hollywood take on tech" shit I have ever seen. Something to do with having to download some software from the onboard computer of a commercial airplane and the best way to do it was... DANGLE a goddamn ethernet cable down from the airplane mid-flight to the protagonists in their fast car so they can plug it into their laptop and download the required software.

  31. Re:You mean by msmonroe · · Score: 1

    really only a zero?

  32. Re:Praise indeed! by Isaac-1 · · Score: 1

    Hey, but at least the second episode was better than the first, at this rate after another 98 episodes or so it may reach mediocre

  33. That's a lot of foil... by denzacar · · Score: 1

    Are you perchance "weird" al-vin-rod?
    Cause a suggestion such as that reminds me of only person that would keep that much tin-foil handy.

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  34. The Secret Life Of Walter O’Brien by lippydude · · Score: 1

    "All of the lazy copy and paste repurposed articles written about O’Brien after he helped sell a TV show are based on one initial article in The Irish Times." ref

  35. far fetched by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    ...like passing a cat5 cable down a wheel well of an airliner and into the waiting hand of someone in another vehicle (without scraping engine nacelles on the runway - yeah, those wheels were NOT down and locked) while travelling over 200mph and waiting around long enough to download some firmware that for some reason couldn't be done entirely from the aircraft (what, nobody on board had a fucking ipad??) then bringing a Ferrari to a stop before it pancaked into a steel barrier, from 200+ to 0 in less than fifty feet - sideways, without flipping? All in the space of SEVEN SECONDS??

    Not far fetched at all.

    By the way: SPOILER ALERT.

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    Political debates have me rolling my eyes so much I think I got optical whiplash. I should sue. - Foamy The Squirrel
  36. Re:mediocre eh? That's not even coming close to it by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    It's so loaded with fake, unbelievable nonsense it's not even watchable. In episode one, they were racing a ferrari or a lambo or something underneath a jumbo jet, so that they jumbo jet could drop an ethernet cable down to a waiting hot chick who inserted it into a laptop. 2 seconds later they had magically retrieve a backup of the communication software for the fucking air traffic control towers. Which they then uploaded to every air traffic control tower in the country so they can FINALLY land all those planes.

    I bet you loved McGyver...

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    To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  37. I believe it by whitroth · · Score: 1

    A techie mailing list I'm on has multiple people ranting about the absolutely bs that happens - not the way aircraft comm works, not the way this, that and the other work, and the plot...um, what plot?

                    mark

  38. The real Scorpion :) by lippydude · · Score: 1
  39. http://www.selimoglunakliyat.com/ by ayhanaylioglu · · Score: 1
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