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2014 Nobel Peace Prize Awarded To Kailash Satyarthi and Malala Yousafzay
An anonymous reader writes: This year's Nobel Peace Prize has been given to Kailash Satyarthi and Malala Yousafzay for fighting to protect the rights of children and further their education. Yousafzay, at the age of 17, is the youngest recipient of the Peace Prize. Born and raised in Pakistan, she actively campaigned for girls' rights to education. In 2012, the Taliban shot her in the head, but she survived and continued her struggle. Satyarthi, a 60-year-old from India, has led many peaceful protests to fight against child slavery and illiteracy. "Satyarthi estimates that 60 million children in India, or 6 percent of the population, are forced into work. This, he believes, has nothing to do with parental poverty, illiteracy or ignorance. Above all, children are enslaved because employers benefit by getting their labour for free or for a pittance." This year's Nobel Peace Prize awards are also notable for bringing together an Indian and a Pakistani while their respective governments sustain a military conflict along a stretch of border between their countries.
As did Barack Obama.
But these are both great people who went through hell to great things. They could've awarded the peace prize to Hitler himself, and I'd still be thinking these awards are incredibly appropriate.
I wish I could've achieved as much as Malala when I was 17, and I can still aspire to achieve what Kailash did by the same I'm 60.
Fuck anti-education assholes, and fuck slavery.
Pakistan and India have been hostile since they first were separated from each other, but they're not so different!! Surely this gesture will make them realize this and they'll have no choice but to bury the hatchet, that's just how human psychology works.
Malala Yousafzay campaigns for womens and girls rights, and in the UK she gets sent to a private, segregated all girls school... I always found that slightly ironic.
There's some kind of myth that is sought to be promulgated by certain people that the Nobel committee is politically independent. That is completely wrong. The entire commitee is put together by votes in the parliament, and former and high profile politicians are heavily involved. So consider basically the committee's choices the result of the preferences of political appointees.
The current head of the commitee, Thorbjørn Jagland, is a former head politician of the Labour party. He was the one who gave the prize to Barack Obama. Of course, the commitee does have five people in it - but they are all political appointees, and the president has a double vote.
He has been severely and repeatedly criticised over many years, from high profile people, for completely ignoring Alfred Nobel's will. For example, here: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/nobels-fredspris/nobel-forfatter-jagland-burde-gaatt-av-for-lenge-siden/a/10062076/ - headline "Jagland should have resigned a long time ago", criticism from the author of the book "Nobel's Will". Article about the author here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredrik_Heffermehl .
Nobel's will states that the prize should go to whomever works to reduce standing armies and arrange peace conferences - it should go to efforts to reduce conventional wars.
The new conservative government has indicated that they are going to remove Jagland. Jagland has presented a conspiracy theory that this is because they are trying to please China. But that's probably not going to float, so the streak of madness and Labour party preference is going to end soon.
Where's Obama's second Peace Prize?
...apparently...
Since the moral of Malala's story is that her own race are so unbearable to live around, that living among white people is the only hope for her and her kind... until there are too many of 'her kind' living here...
Any comments?
"In 2012, the Taliban shot her in the head, but she survived and continued her struggle."
That ladies and gentlemen is what we call a zombie. Can a zombie win the nobel prize? Apparently so. I for one welcome our new teenage zombie overlords.
an educated population is one of the best defenses against mindless wars. That's why it's so important to the corrupt governments that want to wage those wars to have control of the education systems in their societies.
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Is there any proof for your hypothesis?
Certainly in the west nobody has heard anything about the young girl since she was released from hospital after her recovery. I'm interested to know the real world changing accomplishments she has personally brought to fruition? In addition, Satyarthi "accomplishments" appear to be limited to one country. Is this then the Peace prize for India? I've seen Mother Teresa's name bounced around in justification because of her work in Calcutta but she worked in tends (if not more) nations around the world.
This is another Nobel fail. Nice people but not worthy of the prize.
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I approve of this award. These are an invasion of women's rights. These are kids in need of protection. These are people who need SJWs facetweeting for them from coffee shops. Mark and Frank giggling about a 'dongle' across the hall is a first world problem.
Russia doesn't have bad education, definitely not worse than European states. Did it stop them from invading Ukraine?
an educated population is one of the best defenses against mindless wars. That's why it's so important to the corrupt governments that want to wage those wars to have control of the education systems in their societies.
Because MISeducating their population is key. "Give them a light, and they'll follow it anywhere."
But this needs another caveat: If the population in general doesn't have any effective power over the goverenment, they can know exactly what's going on, be against it, but be utterly unable to change it. If some of them attempt to make such change, it just separates them out from those who will knuckle under, for easy removal from the herd.
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If dirty scum like "her" was fuckable back when it was 14 or 15.
Russia doesn't have bad education
Actually they do. Their education when it comes to history and especially social state of European countries is so incorrect that it only can be considered as propaganda.
Dear Taliban chauvinist pigfuckers:
In your attempt to kill Yousafzay and suppress her right to a good education, you handed her a substantial monetary reward in a gold platter. Way to go!
I think I'll have to invoke Godwin on this one or for that matter post 9/11 US, education doesn't stop wacky wars. At least not education with a high degree of political slant and indoctrination, people can read/write or for that matter be an engineer/developer and still swallow political propaganda hook, line and sinker.
This is far older and simpler than this, it's opposition to equality of the sexes. They'd rather have their women be ignorant half-slave housekeepers, sex servants, child bearers and nannies. The first step is denying them any education so they're illiterate, then wrap them in burqas and make them terrified of contact with any other male who might treat them like a human being and finally subjugate them in law, to refuse your husband is never rape, no divorce, the kids belong to the father and if a woman gets raped let's punish her because obviously she tempted them in some way.
And just to get back on that education track, if the choices are no education, religious indoctrination (ev-uh-lution? what's that?) or government indoctrination I think for the most part I favor democratically imposed standards of education over individual whack jobs who want to inflict their wacky world view on their children. Not that I think public school is necessarily a good school, but most of them are pretty bland and expose you to a wide variety of other children with different backgrounds.
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The Nobel "Peace" prize is such a farce. First we have warmonger Obama. Then we have Snowden completely ignored.
The fact you have to ask shows what lack of education has done to you.
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Religious indoctrination counteracts much of the effect of education. Without religion, most well-educated people turn out to be either liberal or libertarian depending on their empathy. Throw heavy religious belief into the mix and any number of those people swing conservative.
Duh, everybody knows that headshots kill zombies, so she must be some other kind of revenant.
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I was really hoping Obama would get it again. You know, for failing to do anything or engage in combat with ISIS for months. Just letting the enemy take over and burying your head in the sand is what those anti-war protestors want after all.
Is there any proof for your hypothesis?
Yes, there is evidence. The US invasion of Iraq was not history's bloodiest war, but it was one of the dumbest. Polls taken in 2002-2003 clearly show that opposition to that invasion was strongly correlated with education level. High school dropouts were the most likely to favor invading, and people with graduate degrees were the most likely to oppose it.
This doesn't mean that education can prevent all wars, but maybe it can prevent the really dumb wars.
The change Malala has been working for essentially means the total destruction of the underpinnings of the culture of northern Pakistan. That's why conservatives in Pakistan and elsewhere fight. We are no more right to impose our social system on other cultures that we were in past centuries to impose our religion. Along with local cultures hundreds of languages are disappearing. This is a time of mass extinction of species of animals, plants, fish and human diversity. These changes are as unstoppable as they are catastrophic. It's grotesque to see so many cheering it on.
The fact that you weren't able to answer the question shows that it maybe wasn't so dumb after all...
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Did you not see how ISIS tries to control what is being taught in the schools about mathematics and chemistry?
The Taliban also do the same to keep women and girls out of education because they might learn about other possibilities and lose their dependence on men.
In the US, it was illegal in the early 1800s to teach slaves how to read or write. If a slave were to learn, they would quickly overpower their masters.
Why else do you think there were times when the Catholic church would shun science? Education of the stars took away the geocentric theory and was bound to take away our importance of being the center of the universe.
Authoritarians have throughout history done what they could to control education. An ignorant populace is not a threat. An educated populace is capable of organization and can quickly create problems for the powers that be.
Examples of racism in South Africa were actually greater towards the Indian population than the African population because Indians
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Libertarians in practice are just conservatives without the context of history and social forces.
What a damned shame that awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama has rendered it a joke for the rest of time. Used to be something prestigious and precious, an important statement...but then, they jumped the shark and now it's just a punchline.
Finally - a Peace Prize goes to someone who actually earned it!
In hindsight. Jimmy Carter actually produced peace, specifically between Israel and Egypt, which stands today. He deserved his prize. Obama is an utter failure and seems to have the moral intelligence of a 10 yr old.
Did you not see how ISIS tries to control what is being taught in the schools about mathematics and chemistry?
The Taliban also do the same to keep women and girls out of education because they might learn about other possibilities and lose their dependence on men.
In the US, it was illegal in the early 1800s to teach slaves how to read or write. If a slave were to learn, they would quickly overpower their masters.
Why else do you think there were times when the Catholic church would shun science? Education of the stars took away the geocentric theory and was bound to take away our importance of being the center of the universe.
Authoritarians have throughout history done what they could to control education. An ignorant populace is not a threat. An educated populace is capable of organization and can quickly create problems for the powers that be.
Examples of racism in South Africa were actually greater towards the Indian population than the African population because Indians
The parent post you replied to agrees with everything you wrote. Why are replying as if he disagrees?
an educated population is one of the best defenses against mindless wars.
Precisely. For instance, my own country (the USA) is in the top 12% in the world in education. When was the last time you saw us start some mindless war?
2003
The Taliban also do the same to keep women and girls out of education because they might learn about other possibilities and lose their dependence on men.
While here, women have better access to education then men and they are still dependent on men. Go figure...
That's only true of the American brand of libertarian. There are also leftists who are libertarian and they are the only ones who have had any real influence. Examples include Gandhi, the Dali Llama and Mandela.
Note I'm using the original definition of libertarian being the opposite of totalitarian and being one of the other 2 axis of politics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
They are not. Where did you get that nonsense idea from????
Your 'evidence' does not prove your hypothesis.
Do you see any women grow their food, take there trash out, build their house, defend their border? Feminist only bark for equal representation in the easy desk job. They do not want these hard, but essential jobs, and therefore are still dependent on men for living. Sexual division of labour is still common practice and as in the past millennia still favour women. Feminist are despicable hypocrite and manipulating this young Pakistani girl for propaganda is revolting.
I will not be satisfied until 50% of coffins return from war are female coffin. Equality! Equality! Equality!
I am very serious; send women to war. Doing so will change the world. Nobody will ever support a war were women die in combat because only men are disposable.
>Do you see any women grow their >food,
Yes
>take there trash out,
Yes of course
>build their house,
Yes.
> defend their border?
Of course. Ever heard of female soldiers????
>Feminist only bark for equal representation in the easy desk job.
Bullshit.
>They do not want these hard, but essential jobs,
More bullshit.
>and therefore are still dependent on men for living.
Only in twisted misogynistic sad mind.
> Sexual division of labour is still common practice
True. Unfortunately. I whish more men would go into labour and squeeze a bowling ball out off their ass. ^_^.
>and as in the past millennia still favour women.
Nonsense.
>Feminist are despicable hypocrite and manipulating this young Pakistani girl for propaganda is revolting.
You nothing but a sad mysogistic pile of shit. And before you cry "ad hominem", you just described me as revolting and despicable.
>I will not be satisfied until 50% of coffins return from war are female coffin. Equality! Equality! Equality!
Good. I hope you want equal pay for everyone as well as on average women earn only 77% of that what men get. For the same job. And I hope you vote for a female president and for more female CEOs. Zero female presidents, 4% female CEOs. Guess the next 22 US presidents should be female then. :-)
>I am very serious; send women to war. Doing so will change the world.
Sure. Just don't stop there with equality.
Nobody will ever support a war were women die in combat because only men are disposable.
Bullshit. Lots of armies have female soldiers and they did just like men.
Your world view is simply misogyn and anachronistic.
True. Unfortunately. I whish more men would go into labour and squeeze a bowling ball out off their ass. ^_^.
There is always a few exception in every field. Women in general, because that is was we are discussing here, do not do these things. Men were always seen as tool, exploitable and disposable muscle of society. I am fine with that, it is the way of nature.
Men do not breed themselves. Men are made by women, in the exact way women need them.
You bring no arguments and your decade old debunked myth of 'equal pay' only show how dishonest you are. Also, your mentioning of '4% CEO easy desk job' only give weight to my own arguments you dismissed as bullshit.
The only real gap is the life expectancy gap; when women take as much risk, and suffer the fatality, they will attain all the top position you claim lack women's representation.
Btw, I am pretty sure the goats.cx guy could squeeze a bowling ball out of his ass now.
Err.. It's great reading how everyone is praising her and saying she deserves every bit of it. Frankly I don't take Nobel Award seriously anymore, I mean Obama has one, that didn't stop the drone attacks against Pakistan..right? Well, now lets talk about education. In Pakistan we do have an education system which to be honest isn't that great, boys and girls both have to chance to get education, however due to backward nature of some regions they can't really study. They're told to study Quran btw and then seek education. Being a women in Pakistan isn't that easy especially when you're stuck in some Taliban influenced area. However, I can't recall her actions and campaigns actually making any real change, we do get some media attention but the schools which are still open are empty not because their aren't students, it's because the teachers don't care. It's basically corruption that is killing everyone here. Sure she is brave and stood up for education but at the same time, she is being promoted for other means. Lot of children who share the same fate as her and have been killed already. Still I don't see any real change in my Country. She is making a small change but I can assure you, she is being led on and being pampered by other AGENCIES for their own agenda. It's pretty much the way everything goes in Pakistan. NGO's, charities. They all say they're going to HELP people but in the end, they don't get anything. And if you're going to give the same level of education that I got, then it's better not to get educated at all. Seriously the course is outdated and isn't close to any International standard. But oh well. At least everyone has something to look forward to. In the mean time we sit and watch as protestors sit in the capital and demand for freedom and people get beaten and arrested for asking for freedom and their rights in Pakistan and here we see the flags for education. I ask you, when the Government is corrupt and won't listen to people, how can you run an education campaign? Everyone outside of Pakistan thinks that giving us education would fix things, it won't education can't work because the people in-charge wouldn't let it work. Google PTI Protests etc
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Oh and as for shorter male life expectancy, war and hazardous jobs are not the major culprits as historically, men have generally consumed more tobacco, alcohol and drugs when compared to women in most societies, as a result they are more likely to die from many associated diseases such as lung cancer, tuberculosis and cirrhosis of the liver. On top of that, the mortality rate at birth for females is better then that for males. And to top it off, deaths resulting from cancer of the respiratory system, motor vehicle accidents, suicide, cirrhosis of the liver, emphysema, prostate cancer and coronary heart disease far outweigh the female mortality rate from breast cancer and cervical cancer.
Also, for most of our history (leaving out the last ~50 to 100 years in the developed countries), life expectancy for women of child bearing age was much lower than males of the same age group.
Decade old myth 'debunked' by sexists and misogynists you mean? Yeh, I can see why you'd believe that particular 'debunking'.
I have no idea what you were trying to get at here but if I'm reading this right, it was something along the lines that women are supposed to be nothing more than child bearers for their male overlords. What in blazes is wrong with you?
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* Pakistan = 84
* India = 82
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Definitely no more propoganda than American history. The difference between Canadian/British and American history texts is pretty significant, at times.