Apologies if that was way too aggressive, it brought back memories of a lot of frustration (and anger) which should (obviously) not be directed towards you.
The laptop I have is a HP Envy 15 with an intel core i7 4700mq processor, a hybrid graphics setup (intel 4600 and nvidia 740m), an Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230, a 1TB HDD and 500GB mSATA SSD and 16GB of RAM.
All the hardware works as intended:
I can switch between graphics cards (using proprietary drivers now but it worked with Bumblebee too),
Dual monitors work like a charm regardless of the graphics driver (using the nvidia card makes text go extremely small on the external monitor unless I fiddle with the DPI settings which makes the text on the internal monitor go way too large, intel card doesn't have this problem though).
Never had a dropped connection over wifi.
Had to fiddle to get the sub-woofer working (the stereo inbuilt speakers and the combined 3.5 mm jack were already working)
Had to change a setting in a config file to get audio recording from the internal mic working (for viber and skype, there was too much noise without the adjustment).
Bluetooth works (paired my android phone and a bluetooth speaker without any problems, the connection is always stable).
Fingerprint sensor worked with GDM (I am using SDDM now and haven't tried getting it to work with the fingerprint scanner)
The modified function keys for volume, screen brightness, dual monitor, wifi and media playback worked out of the box (media keys work with Amarok, Clementine, VLC and dragon player).
I can put the laptop to sleep and it resumes without any problem.
The temperature sensors for the CPU, GPU, RAM and HDD all work.
As you can see everything works without any major hassle, the only thing that refuses to work despite spending a lot of time trying to get it to work is hibernation. Regardless of the hibernation method being used (swsusp, uswsusp, TuxOnIce) it looks like the laptop has gone into hibernation but on trying to resume, it usually loads a fresh session as if it had been restarted with the log files stating that the laptop hibernated successfully. The closest I got after a lot of fiddling was to get it to sometimes hibernate and resume and throw a kernel panic and die at others (the throwing a kernel panic and dieing was completely random and the log files post kernel panic were no help, they just said something about a bug with ACPI and the BIOS). Contacting HP support was an exercise in frustration as they just said Linux is not supported on this particular model and apologised very politely (no point getting mad at them, is there? They can't change the corporate culture).
So no, just looking at the spec sheet (which I did) does not give you the complete picture when things like BIOS and ACPI can make the laptop not hibernate. My next laptop is definitely going to be a DELL XPS 15 or a System76 (if I can somehow manage to import one).
Uhuh...if they're modifying Ubuntu, they can't call it Ubuntu. They can call it OurSuperCoolLinuxDistro (based on Ubuntu Linux) but they can't call it Ubuntu Linux. If Canonical doesn't defend their trademark in this particular instance, the trademark will get diluted. Why's that so hard to understand?
it's not that simple to be honest. All the hardware in my current laptop (a HP Envy 15) is supported under Linux, haven't had a problem with WiFi, Bluetooth, sound, graphics or anything else (hell even the fingerprint scanner works) but the laptop just wouldn't hibernate (it looks like it has hibernated but fails to resume) due to the BIOS (UEFI). The BIOS vendor and version are usually not that easy to find unless someone posts a question about them.
Whatever you do, steer well clear of the HP Envy series. I have tried pretty much everything I could but hibernation under Linux just doesn't work on this thing. Pity really, everything else works really well (from suspend to the temperature sensors to the fingerprint reader, even the Fn function keys such as the volume rocker, screen brightness, media controls etc have worked out of the box since at least Kubuntu 14.04 which is the oldest distro I've tried on this laptop) and overall it's a pretty decent machine.
An hour a day or even 2-3 hours a day is not going to cut it when working on something like Cyanogenmod even if someone is maintaining only a couple of devices. It is a time consuming (and pretty expensive) endeavor that will very quickly turn into a full time job. Add to that the fact that there aren't that many people who are doing it and the situation only becomes worse (people are more interested in creating their own ROMs as opposed to working on something like Cyanogen or Paranoid or Omni etc unless there is some incentive involved).
So if working on something like CyanogenMod with a full time job is not really viable, what other options are available to developers? Most people do not want to donate money (I paid for the PHONE, why the fsck do I have to pay for a software upgrade?) so that's not a revenue stream that can be relied upon and a lot of people seem to think they're entitled to support by the devs so there are a lot of pretty rude comments if a device hasn't received an update (just visit the CyanogenMod forums sometime or just look through the comments here and witness someone complaining about how their HTC Desire HD (released 2010) is still on CM 7 (I own that phone, installed a couple Android 4 ROMs on it which resulted in a myriad of problems because of hardware not being upto snuff)) which results in bad publicity. How do developers manage the development and testing of an OS for hundreds of devices and marketing to offset bad publicity without a stable revenue stream?
Not really, I have a HTC Desire HD sitting on my desk, I have tried multiple ROMs and the performance is atrocious on pretty much all of them (frequent hangs, random reboots, especially annoying if it happens during a phone call).
I also have a Samsung Galaxy S4 running Cyanogenmod 13.1 sitting on my desk and while it is still mostly functional, it has started to struggle with some of the latest apps, lacks hardware encryption and doesn't have a fingerprint scanner and I am looking at a replacement (thinking of getting an LG G5 at the moment because it seems to tick all the boxes).
Are there any open source projects you have worked on personally?
You seem to be under the impression that its advisable for someone to code 8-12 hours a day at a day job and then spend another 8-12 hours a day working on an open source project. While I have personally contributed to some open source projects back in the day and know some people who have at some point in their life done something similar, despite being someone who loves to code there is only so much coding you can handle during a 24 hour period what with the need to sleep, socialize and maybe even indulge in a useless hobby like gaming or stamp collecting or watching tv shows (all of which, mind you, are human needs). There is a reason that these days most successful open source projects aren't created/maintained as a hobby but are full time jobs.
You are bringing facts to a zealotry-fueled, Fox-news-inspired diatribe? You, sir, are the reason for all our problems. Without people like you pissing on everyone else's parade, America would already be great again and all the Americans would be high on unicorn farts
one of the daftest things I've read in a while...and there have been some pretty daft things posted here in recent times.. So you'd automate everything AND reduce corporate taxes...definitely a yuuuuge WIN for the average American trying to make ends meet, of course since the manufacturing process is now in the good ol' US of A now and everyone knows its MORE expensive to manufacture in the good ol' US of A, so the price of everything will get jacked up, that's another yuuuge WIN for the average American right there. Poor people protesting in the streets because they can't afford pretty much anything? Well we have already set up internment camps for those miscreants and with forced labour (and pennies in wages), we will make them productive members of our once-again-great-nation. Remind me, how's this vision of 'greatness' different from what was happening in sugar plantations in the not-too-distant-past?
Since the gp called the parents bullies and you countered with what I presume means that the gp is calling the victims in this situation bullies, it follows that you think the parents are somehow the victims here, if I missed something kindly point it out.
As for your question, how do you know that she hasn't been filing complaints with FB for months and getting pictures removed only for her parents to re-upload them? It would appear that the parents have made it a point of pride and believe that since they took the pics, its their right to do with em whatever they want. Since its her parents we are talking about, unfriending them on Facebook does not really guarantee that people won't intentionally (or unintentionally) find their profiles and if they're uploading these pictures as public (which I believe they are) anyone can view them. Since its an ongoing problem for the girl, I believe it would become pretty cumbersome pretty quickly to keep filling out the Facebook complaint form and getting the images removed each time they get reuploaded. In this scenario, I can't see any options besides either forcefully deleting the images and any backups that the parents might have which I think is not going to go down too well (and could result in violence) or get legal help against the ongoing harassment which would possibly forcefully stop the parents from uploading the offending pics.
Honestly, talking to you has reminded me of Juror 3 from 12 Angry Men. Hmmph lets see if I can rope my pops into re-watching the movie with me...ciao angry old man, here's to hoping you resolve whatever issues you have with your son...
I posed two questions in my comment and you sidestepped/ignored both of them so let me ask them again:
1. How are the parents victims here?
2. If this girl does not want her nude childhood pictures on Facebook, what options does she have after repeatedly asking her parents has failed?
And kindly read my comment again, I never said these pics had ruined her life. I did however mention/imply that they'd make her life harder and elaborated as to why I thought that, if you disagree kindly blow/poke as many holes as you can in the points I raised instead of acting like a grumpy old man throwing a tantrum about how all young'uns are spoilt li'l snowflakes who want everything presented to em on a silver platter.
You're the only one talking about prison mate, I never said or even alluded to incarceration for the parents. As far as I am concerned, as long as they take the pictures down or are forced to take them down, the problem is resolved.
How in blazes do you reckon that the parents are the victims here? Reading your previous comments on this thread, I know that you're a parent yourself so I guess you're biased in their favor but come on, there's no way they're victims in this situation. I'll try and convince you as to why the girl is in the right and the parents are being jerks (obligatory XKCD comic).
There's a number of issues that nude childhood pictures plastered all over the internet create for this girl:
Bullying from Peers
All it would take is for one of her class-fellows/co-workers to find and share her nude childhood pictures with the rest of her peers to turn her life into a living hell. Not a situation I'd want to be in.
Employment
You do realize that most employers these days do an extensive online background check on any potential employees, I think nude childhood pictures are not something that any of us want to be in the list of things they find about us. I'm a bloke so I am not certain but I think this issue would be even more sensitive for women (correct me if I am wrong).
Romantic Relationships
The pool most young adults find their partners from is mainly comprised of people in their close proximity. I doubt anyone is going to take someone with nude childhood pictures plastered over the internet seriously. This, too, is probably more problematic for women (please note that when I say more problematic for women, I am not implying that its not problematic for men, just that its more of a problem for women because of the way our society is structured). Paraphrasing a previous poster, it can't be fun to have every creepy dude in your school/workplace commenting on your physical features.
Lack of Respect
Even if we were to ignore all the potential societal problems this issue would create for the girl (she does not live in a vacuum but let's be hypothetical), this still leaves the issue of her parents having a complete disregard for her wishes and trying to do what they want with her person. Dunno about you but I think that in and of itself demonstrates a pretty big failing on the part of the parents.
As the summary states, repeated requests to the parents to take down those pictures has fallen on deaf ears, could you please point out what logical or reasonable recourse this girl had besides the one she opted for? Also note that it wouldn't matter if she removed her parents from her friendlist on Facebook, it wouldn't matter if she even deactivated her account (not having a Facebook account apparently raises red flags so not sure if that's even advisable anymore), someone is bound to stumble upon her parents' profiles and find those pictures so this is not an issue that she can just ignore.
Au contraire - this is actually a pretty rare example of enforcing the rule of law equally on people and multinational corporations. Here's how:
1. Apple and Ireland negotiated these deals over a period of several months.
2. At the time these deals were negotiated, Ireland was already a signatory of the EU rules (the EU was called EEC back then).
3. Ireland was, and always has been, free to walk away from the EEC (now the EU) just like Britain.
4. The EEC rules regarding these matters were common knowledge.
5. Individuals can't use ignorance of the law as a legal defense and neither can companies, which is fair.
6. Under the terms of the deal Apple negotiated with Ireland, Apple has been paying taxes for goods sold in Ireland only while paying 0 taxes on goods sold in the rest of the EU (ignorance my ass).
7. Apple has been told to pay taxes which it has been avoiding.
8. No fines or other legal sanctions have been imposed on Apple.
9. Ireland might get fined by the EU once the legal process has been completed (which is why they're running around like headless chickens).
If there was less overall pandering to multinational corporations, the quality of life of the people would improve as opposed to the current situation where these corporations have hundreds of billions of dollars stashed away in some tax haven (not certain but it seems like a dick waving contest at this point). No idea where you got 'end of "Rule of Law"' from this entire debacle or how you can think of Apple as some sort of a victim here, please feel free to elaborate.
Luckily I have always used KDE so getting focus-follows-mouse to work has never been that much of an issue for me. Even got it to work on Windows 7 (through several registry hacks).
I tried to get KDE to build on OS X as a last ditch effort, ran into dependency hell which I couldn't resolve despite a lot of effort and in the end figured that it was probably not worth the time I was pouring into it.
The only real gripe I have with Linux is the problems SystemD is introducing by trying to 'correct' the Unix way of doing things.
Pretty much all the games I want to play these days are available on steam with Linux support (I am probably in the minority there but as long as I can get my fix, I'm not fussed).
When I said I wanted a panel on both screen, I meant something like what KDE has but since you're not a Linux person, you can think of the Windows 7 panel (which has the start button, the taskbar, notifications tray and a clock) but where Windows 7 only lets you have the panel on the primary display, I want it on both displays (and the taskbar on each panel to display programs that are running on that screen). The only alternative to the standard dock that OS X comes with that came close to what I wanted was uBar but I could only get it to display on one of the screens instead of both of them (I was using a free trial, it costs $20).
I can't stand docks (on any operating system). I don't need that many applications permanently pinned to an edge of the screen, I need Netbeans or Ninja IDE along with Firefox and/or Chrom(e)(ium) and maybe one or more of GIMP, LibreOffice and a virtual machine. The whole concept seemed broken and wasteful to me and even when I removed all the unnecessary items from the dock and left only the ones I wanted, the windows of the same applications were still grouped together into a single item on the dock instead of having multiple entries despite acres of space (eg if I had 5 windows of Firefox, there was a single firefox icon which I had to click to get to a list of the windows that were open).
With focus-follows-mouse, I got it working through one of the terminal solutions but the experience was sub-optimal (at best). The unified menubar made it nearly impossible to use and in the end I just gave up. I did not come across BinaryBakery but that does seem interesting.
If I have to whip out XCode to roll my own solution, how is it different from what I have to do with Linux (where KDE has me covered on the GUI side of things but I need to faff around with config files to get hibernation working, probably won't be an issue if I bought a Dell with Ubuntu or a System 76)?
I understand that no OS can cater to everyones needs/wishes but I think this is not an improvement over what I have at the moment, it actually seems more painful. Won't you agree?
I am writing this from a laptop running Kubuntu 16.04 and while there are things which I find inconvenient/annoying, I am generally pretty happy with the overall experience.
I am not trying to troll you but I like my computer's environment set a particular way and I am actually genuinely interested in knowing if the OSX GUI can now support my workflow instead of me having to adapt so here goes; I use a multi-monitor setup with a panel on both screens, each of the panels has its own Application launcher, taskbar (which shows only applications from the screen the panel is on and does not autosort/group applications) and a notifications tray and I like to use focus-follows-mouse instead of click-to-focus. Last time I checked (with Yosemite, a friend let me keep their old Mac Book Pro for a month to play with), OSX wouldn't let me do either of these things (I could not get the dock to show up on both screens or get it to not group windows of the same application together and even when i eventually managed to get focus-follows-mouse working, the unified toolbar (which I couldn't switch off) made it nearly impossible to use). I realise someone somewhere might think that the interface of OS X is perfect but as far as I am concerned, I could not see myself using it in it's default configuration and since I couldn't modify it either, I didn't really see the point of getting a Mac if I was going to install Kubuntu on it at the end of the day anyway.
I never said there were no good charities or that giving to charities was a bad or unacceptable thing...I have a direct debit set up with a couple of charities that I support (two cancer research/treatment non-profits, one disaster relief charity).
What I was pointing out was the utter stupidity of what the AC was saying, who decides what charities help people more? There are charities which provide medical aid or housing or legal aid or food or an education or a myriad of other services/products to the underprivileged, who decides which of these are more deserving of someone's money? The AC? I don't think so.
Also, how is giving to charitable entities the same thing as making a political donation? If I decide to donate to a politician, it'd be to help a candidate who at least claims to hold the same ideals I have, it might not pan out or it might, but doing nothing and hoping for things to change is just plain dumb. I guess the only people who think that giving to a politician in the hopes of effecting change are either the people who think that the world as it is today is perfectly fine and does not need to change or the people who are so extremely dejected that they feel that no matter what someone does, nothing would ever change. If the AC falls into the first category then they are a fucking imbecile whereas if they fall into the second category, they need a psych eval and probably should be placed in a padded white room before all that anger and frustration boils over and makes them do something extreme!
O wise one, since you clearly know what charities one should be donating to, please be kind enough to provide a list of the charities you approve of and that you think actually help people. The rest of humanity would be indebted to you for generations to come...
Who's talking about playing a song someone bought for $1 in a theater you pillock? Besides lacking any common sense, you clearly aren't very good at reading comprehension, are you?
Let me try and spell it out for you, this time actually try reading and understanding (I know that will be hard for someone like yourself but try nonetheless) what's being said before responding, so here goes:
If someone licenses a MOVIE to play in a theater they own, on top of the licensing fees they've already paid for the movie, they have to pay a separate licensing fee for the MUSIC CONTAINED IN THAT MOVIE.
Now go ahead and explain to the rest of us who is stealing from whom in this particular case. I'll wait
or maybe it's like saying music is copyrightable so if you play a movie in a theater you own, an army of lawyers will descend on you unless you pay separate licensing fee for the music in the movie. LOOL. Oh, whoops, wait a sec, that one actually does happen.
I haven't ever accused anyone of being a shill, you just might become the person to win that honour
Some free advice, ignore that idiot...he thinks the Left is responsible for everything from terrorism to war to malaria and pneumonia. He always finds a way to whine about the Left even if everyone else is talking about space travel or operating systems.
Additionally, America doesn't have a political left (the way the rest of the world perceives left anyway). You have far-right (the Republicans) and centre-right (the Democrats) so I have no idea what, how or why you have a beef with the Left (since you are always whining and moaning about Left this, Left that so it is only natural that I presume that you have some grudge against what you perceive to be the Left), methinks you should be mad at some shade of Right!
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Apologies if that was way too aggressive, it brought back memories of a lot of frustration (and anger) which should (obviously) not be directed towards you.
The laptop I have is a HP Envy 15 with an intel core i7 4700mq processor, a hybrid graphics setup (intel 4600 and nvidia 740m), an Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230, a 1TB HDD and 500GB mSATA SSD and 16GB of RAM.
All the hardware works as intended:
I can switch between graphics cards (using proprietary drivers now but it worked with Bumblebee too),
Dual monitors work like a charm regardless of the graphics driver (using the nvidia card makes text go extremely small on the external monitor unless I fiddle with the DPI settings which makes the text on the internal monitor go way too large, intel card doesn't have this problem though).
Never had a dropped connection over wifi.
Had to fiddle to get the sub-woofer working (the stereo inbuilt speakers and the combined 3.5 mm jack were already working)
Had to change a setting in a config file to get audio recording from the internal mic working (for viber and skype, there was too much noise without the adjustment).
Bluetooth works (paired my android phone and a bluetooth speaker without any problems, the connection is always stable).
Fingerprint sensor worked with GDM (I am using SDDM now and haven't tried getting it to work with the fingerprint scanner)
The modified function keys for volume, screen brightness, dual monitor, wifi and media playback worked out of the box (media keys work with Amarok, Clementine, VLC and dragon player).
I can put the laptop to sleep and it resumes without any problem.
The temperature sensors for the CPU, GPU, RAM and HDD all work.
As you can see everything works without any major hassle, the only thing that refuses to work despite spending a lot of time trying to get it to work is hibernation. Regardless of the hibernation method being used (swsusp, uswsusp, TuxOnIce) it looks like the laptop has gone into hibernation but on trying to resume, it usually loads a fresh session as if it had been restarted with the log files stating that the laptop hibernated successfully. The closest I got after a lot of fiddling was to get it to sometimes hibernate and resume and throw a kernel panic and die at others (the throwing a kernel panic and dieing was completely random and the log files post kernel panic were no help, they just said something about a bug with ACPI and the BIOS). Contacting HP support was an exercise in frustration as they just said Linux is not supported on this particular model and apologised very politely (no point getting mad at them, is there? They can't change the corporate culture).
So no, just looking at the spec sheet (which I did) does not give you the complete picture when things like BIOS and ACPI can make the laptop not hibernate. My next laptop is definitely going to be a DELL XPS 15 or a System76 (if I can somehow manage to import one).
Uhuh...if they're modifying Ubuntu, they can't call it Ubuntu. They can call it OurSuperCoolLinuxDistro (based on Ubuntu Linux) but they can't call it Ubuntu Linux. If Canonical doesn't defend their trademark in this particular instance, the trademark will get diluted. Why's that so hard to understand?
it's not that simple to be honest. All the hardware in my current laptop (a HP Envy 15) is supported under Linux, haven't had a problem with WiFi, Bluetooth, sound, graphics or anything else (hell even the fingerprint scanner works) but the laptop just wouldn't hibernate (it looks like it has hibernated but fails to resume) due to the BIOS (UEFI). The BIOS vendor and version are usually not that easy to find unless someone posts a question about them.
the Windows is strong with this one
Whatever you do, steer well clear of the HP Envy series. I have tried pretty much everything I could but hibernation under Linux just doesn't work on this thing. Pity really, everything else works really well (from suspend to the temperature sensors to the fingerprint reader, even the Fn function keys such as the volume rocker, screen brightness, media controls etc have worked out of the box since at least Kubuntu 14.04 which is the oldest distro I've tried on this laptop) and overall it's a pretty decent machine.
An hour a day or even 2-3 hours a day is not going to cut it when working on something like Cyanogenmod even if someone is maintaining only a couple of devices. It is a time consuming (and pretty expensive) endeavor that will very quickly turn into a full time job. Add to that the fact that there aren't that many people who are doing it and the situation only becomes worse (people are more interested in creating their own ROMs as opposed to working on something like Cyanogen or Paranoid or Omni etc unless there is some incentive involved).
So if working on something like CyanogenMod with a full time job is not really viable, what other options are available to developers? Most people do not want to donate money (I paid for the PHONE, why the fsck do I have to pay for a software upgrade?) so that's not a revenue stream that can be relied upon and a lot of people seem to think they're entitled to support by the devs so there are a lot of pretty rude comments if a device hasn't received an update (just visit the CyanogenMod forums sometime or just look through the comments here and witness someone complaining about how their HTC Desire HD (released 2010) is still on CM 7 (I own that phone, installed a couple Android 4 ROMs on it which resulted in a myriad of problems because of hardware not being upto snuff)) which results in bad publicity. How do developers manage the development and testing of an OS for hundreds of devices and marketing to offset bad publicity without a stable revenue stream?
Not really, I have a HTC Desire HD sitting on my desk, I have tried multiple ROMs and the performance is atrocious on pretty much all of them (frequent hangs, random reboots, especially annoying if it happens during a phone call).
I also have a Samsung Galaxy S4 running Cyanogenmod 13.1 sitting on my desk and while it is still mostly functional, it has started to struggle with some of the latest apps, lacks hardware encryption and doesn't have a fingerprint scanner and I am looking at a replacement (thinking of getting an LG G5 at the moment because it seems to tick all the boxes).
Are there any open source projects you have worked on personally?
You seem to be under the impression that its advisable for someone to code 8-12 hours a day at a day job and then spend another 8-12 hours a day working on an open source project. While I have personally contributed to some open source projects back in the day and know some people who have at some point in their life done something similar, despite being someone who loves to code there is only so much coding you can handle during a 24 hour period what with the need to sleep, socialize and maybe even indulge in a useless hobby like gaming or stamp collecting or watching tv shows (all of which, mind you, are human needs). There is a reason that these days most successful open source projects aren't created/maintained as a hobby but are full time jobs.
You are bringing facts to a zealotry-fueled, Fox-news-inspired diatribe? You, sir, are the reason for all our problems. Without people like you pissing on everyone else's parade, America would already be great again and all the Americans would be high on unicorn farts
one of the daftest things I've read in a while...and there have been some pretty daft things posted here in recent times.. So you'd automate everything AND reduce corporate taxes...definitely a yuuuuge WIN for the average American trying to make ends meet, of course since the manufacturing process is now in the good ol' US of A now and everyone knows its MORE expensive to manufacture in the good ol' US of A, so the price of everything will get jacked up, that's another yuuuge WIN for the average American right there. Poor people protesting in the streets because they can't afford pretty much anything? Well we have already set up internment camps for those miscreants and with forced labour (and pennies in wages), we will make them productive members of our once-again-great-nation. Remind me, how's this vision of 'greatness' different from what was happening in sugar plantations in the not-too-distant-past?
Kudos mate, that made me smile...wish I had mod points
you said:
Since the gp called the parents bullies and you countered with what I presume means that the gp is calling the victims in this situation bullies, it follows that you think the parents are somehow the victims here, if I missed something kindly point it out.
As for your question, how do you know that she hasn't been filing complaints with FB for months and getting pictures removed only for her parents to re-upload them? It would appear that the parents have made it a point of pride and believe that since they took the pics, its their right to do with em whatever they want. Since its her parents we are talking about, unfriending them on Facebook does not really guarantee that people won't intentionally (or unintentionally) find their profiles and if they're uploading these pictures as public (which I believe they are) anyone can view them. Since its an ongoing problem for the girl, I believe it would become pretty cumbersome pretty quickly to keep filling out the Facebook complaint form and getting the images removed each time they get reuploaded. In this scenario, I can't see any options besides either forcefully deleting the images and any backups that the parents might have which I think is not going to go down too well (and could result in violence) or get legal help against the ongoing harassment which would possibly forcefully stop the parents from uploading the offending pics.
Honestly, talking to you has reminded me of Juror 3 from 12 Angry Men. Hmmph lets see if I can rope my pops into re-watching the movie with me...ciao angry old man, here's to hoping you resolve whatever issues you have with your son...
I posed two questions in my comment and you sidestepped/ignored both of them so let me ask them again:
1. How are the parents victims here?
2. If this girl does not want her nude childhood pictures on Facebook, what options does she have after repeatedly asking her parents has failed?
And kindly read my comment again, I never said these pics had ruined her life. I did however mention/imply that they'd make her life harder and elaborated as to why I thought that, if you disagree kindly blow/poke as many holes as you can in the points I raised instead of acting like a grumpy old man throwing a tantrum about how all young'uns are spoilt li'l snowflakes who want everything presented to em on a silver platter.
You're the only one talking about prison mate, I never said or even alluded to incarceration for the parents. As far as I am concerned, as long as they take the pictures down or are forced to take them down, the problem is resolved.
How in blazes do you reckon that the parents are the victims here? Reading your previous comments on this thread, I know that you're a parent yourself so I guess you're biased in their favor but come on, there's no way they're victims in this situation. I'll try and convince you as to why the girl is in the right and the parents are being jerks (obligatory XKCD comic).
There's a number of issues that nude childhood pictures plastered all over the internet create for this girl:
Bullying from Peers
All it would take is for one of her class-fellows/co-workers to find and share her nude childhood pictures with the rest of her peers to turn her life into a living hell. Not a situation I'd want to be in.
Employment
You do realize that most employers these days do an extensive online background check on any potential employees, I think nude childhood pictures are not something that any of us want to be in the list of things they find about us. I'm a bloke so I am not certain but I think this issue would be even more sensitive for women (correct me if I am wrong).
Romantic Relationships
The pool most young adults find their partners from is mainly comprised of people in their close proximity. I doubt anyone is going to take someone with nude childhood pictures plastered over the internet seriously. This, too, is probably more problematic for women (please note that when I say more problematic for women, I am not implying that its not problematic for men, just that its more of a problem for women because of the way our society is structured). Paraphrasing a previous poster, it can't be fun to have every creepy dude in your school/workplace commenting on your physical features.
Lack of Respect
Even if we were to ignore all the potential societal problems this issue would create for the girl (she does not live in a vacuum but let's be hypothetical), this still leaves the issue of her parents having a complete disregard for her wishes and trying to do what they want with her person. Dunno about you but I think that in and of itself demonstrates a pretty big failing on the part of the parents.
As the summary states, repeated requests to the parents to take down those pictures has fallen on deaf ears, could you please point out what logical or reasonable recourse this girl had besides the one she opted for? Also note that it wouldn't matter if she removed her parents from her friendlist on Facebook, it wouldn't matter if she even deactivated her account (not having a Facebook account apparently raises red flags so not sure if that's even advisable anymore), someone is bound to stumble upon her parents' profiles and find those pictures so this is not an issue that she can just ignore.
Au contraire - this is actually a pretty rare example of enforcing the rule of law equally on people and multinational corporations. Here's how:
1. Apple and Ireland negotiated these deals over a period of several months.
2. At the time these deals were negotiated, Ireland was already a signatory of the EU rules (the EU was called EEC back then).
3. Ireland was, and always has been, free to walk away from the EEC (now the EU) just like Britain.
4. The EEC rules regarding these matters were common knowledge.
5. Individuals can't use ignorance of the law as a legal defense and neither can companies, which is fair.
6. Under the terms of the deal Apple negotiated with Ireland, Apple has been paying taxes for goods sold in Ireland only while paying 0 taxes on goods sold in the rest of the EU (ignorance my ass).
7. Apple has been told to pay taxes which it has been avoiding.
8. No fines or other legal sanctions have been imposed on Apple.
9. Ireland might get fined by the EU once the legal process has been completed (which is why they're running around like headless chickens).
If there was less overall pandering to multinational corporations, the quality of life of the people would improve as opposed to the current situation where these corporations have hundreds of billions of dollars stashed away in some tax haven (not certain but it seems like a dick waving contest at this point). No idea where you got 'end of "Rule of Law"' from this entire debacle or how you can think of Apple as some sort of a victim here, please feel free to elaborate.
Luckily I have always used KDE so getting focus-follows-mouse to work has never been that much of an issue for me. Even got it to work on Windows 7 (through several registry hacks).
I tried to get KDE to build on OS X as a last ditch effort, ran into dependency hell which I couldn't resolve despite a lot of effort and in the end figured that it was probably not worth the time I was pouring into it.
The only real gripe I have with Linux is the problems SystemD is introducing by trying to 'correct' the Unix way of doing things.
Pretty much all the games I want to play these days are available on steam with Linux support (I am probably in the minority there but as long as I can get my fix, I'm not fussed).
Sorry for the delayed reply, been very busy.
When I said I wanted a panel on both screen, I meant something like what KDE has but since you're not a Linux person, you can think of the Windows 7 panel (which has the start button, the taskbar, notifications tray and a clock) but where Windows 7 only lets you have the panel on the primary display, I want it on both displays (and the taskbar on each panel to display programs that are running on that screen). The only alternative to the standard dock that OS X comes with that came close to what I wanted was uBar but I could only get it to display on one of the screens instead of both of them (I was using a free trial, it costs $20).
I can't stand docks (on any operating system). I don't need that many applications permanently pinned to an edge of the screen, I need Netbeans or Ninja IDE along with Firefox and/or Chrom(e)(ium) and maybe one or more of GIMP, LibreOffice and a virtual machine. The whole concept seemed broken and wasteful to me and even when I removed all the unnecessary items from the dock and left only the ones I wanted, the windows of the same applications were still grouped together into a single item on the dock instead of having multiple entries despite acres of space (eg if I had 5 windows of Firefox, there was a single firefox icon which I had to click to get to a list of the windows that were open).
With focus-follows-mouse, I got it working through one of the terminal solutions but the experience was sub-optimal (at best). The unified menubar made it nearly impossible to use and in the end I just gave up. I did not come across BinaryBakery but that does seem interesting.
If I have to whip out XCode to roll my own solution, how is it different from what I have to do with Linux (where KDE has me covered on the GUI side of things but I need to faff around with config files to get hibernation working, probably won't be an issue if I bought a Dell with Ubuntu or a System 76)?
I understand that no OS can cater to everyones needs/wishes but I think this is not an improvement over what I have at the moment, it actually seems more painful. Won't you agree?
I am writing this from a laptop running Kubuntu 16.04 and while there are things which I find inconvenient/annoying, I am generally pretty happy with the overall experience.
I am not trying to troll you but I like my computer's environment set a particular way and I am actually genuinely interested in knowing if the OSX GUI can now support my workflow instead of me having to adapt so here goes; I use a multi-monitor setup with a panel on both screens, each of the panels has its own Application launcher, taskbar (which shows only applications from the screen the panel is on and does not autosort/group applications) and a notifications tray and I like to use focus-follows-mouse instead of click-to-focus. Last time I checked (with Yosemite, a friend let me keep their old Mac Book Pro for a month to play with), OSX wouldn't let me do either of these things (I could not get the dock to show up on both screens or get it to not group windows of the same application together and even when i eventually managed to get focus-follows-mouse working, the unified toolbar (which I couldn't switch off) made it nearly impossible to use). I realise someone somewhere might think that the interface of OS X is perfect but as far as I am concerned, I could not see myself using it in it's default configuration and since I couldn't modify it either, I didn't really see the point of getting a Mac if I was going to install Kubuntu on it at the end of the day anyway.
I never said there were no good charities or that giving to charities was a bad or unacceptable thing...I have a direct debit set up with a couple of charities that I support (two cancer research/treatment non-profits, one disaster relief charity).
What I was pointing out was the utter stupidity of what the AC was saying, who decides what charities help people more? There are charities which provide medical aid or housing or legal aid or food or an education or a myriad of other services/products to the underprivileged, who decides which of these are more deserving of someone's money? The AC? I don't think so.
Also, how is giving to charitable entities the same thing as making a political donation? If I decide to donate to a politician, it'd be to help a candidate who at least claims to hold the same ideals I have, it might not pan out or it might, but doing nothing and hoping for things to change is just plain dumb. I guess the only people who think that giving to a politician in the hopes of effecting change are either the people who think that the world as it is today is perfectly fine and does not need to change or the people who are so extremely dejected that they feel that no matter what someone does, nothing would ever change. If the AC falls into the first category then they are a fucking imbecile whereas if they fall into the second category, they need a psych eval and probably should be placed in a padded white room before all that anger and frustration boils over and makes them do something extreme!
O wise one, since you clearly know what charities one should be donating to, please be kind enough to provide a list of the charities you approve of and that you think actually help people. The rest of humanity would be indebted to you for generations to come...
Who's talking about playing a song someone bought for $1 in a theater you pillock? Besides lacking any common sense, you clearly aren't very good at reading comprehension, are you?
Let me try and spell it out for you, this time actually try reading and understanding (I know that will be hard for someone like yourself but try nonetheless) what's being said before responding, so here goes:
If someone licenses a MOVIE to play in a theater they own, on top of the licensing fees they've already paid for the movie, they have to pay a separate licensing fee for the MUSIC CONTAINED IN THAT MOVIE.
Now go ahead and explain to the rest of us who is stealing from whom in this particular case. I'll wait
or maybe it's like saying music is copyrightable so if you play a movie in a theater you own, an army of lawyers will descend on you unless you pay separate licensing fee for the music in the movie. LOOL. Oh, whoops, wait a sec, that one actually does happen.
I haven't ever accused anyone of being a shill, you just might become the person to win that honour
bwahahaaa :-D BEST RANT EVER...
Some free advice, ignore that idiot...he thinks the Left is responsible for everything from terrorism to war to malaria and pneumonia. He always finds a way to whine about the Left even if everyone else is talking about space travel or operating systems.
Additionally, America doesn't have a political left (the way the rest of the world perceives left anyway). You have far-right (the Republicans) and centre-right (the Democrats) so I have no idea what, how or why you have a beef with the Left (since you are always whining and moaning about Left this, Left that so it is only natural that I presume that you have some grudge against what you perceive to be the Left), methinks you should be mad at some shade of Right!