Apple Releases CUPS 2.0
kthreadd writes: 15 years after the release of CUPS 1.0, Apple has now released version 2.0 of the printing system for GNU/Linux and other Unix-style operating systems. One of the major new features in 2.0 is that the test program for ippserver now passes the IPP Everywhere self-certification tests. Also, they've made an interesting blog post looking at the past and future of printing. Since the first major release in 1999, printing has become much more personal. Printer drivers are going away, and mobile usage is now the norm."
Dafuq with dropping OpenSSL support in favor of GnuTLS only?? Does somebody think GnuTLS never had a single vulnerability?
Why you'd need a web server for printing has always riddled me.
so you mean to tell me that Apple is the developer of CUPS? No wonder it's a broken clusterfuck.
Buck Feta. You know what to do.
All the links are to blogs and release-notes, but none of them (nor anywhere obvious on cups.org itself) actually has a download or instructions where to get it. New release sounds nice. Not usable if we can't get it, but "sounds nice", so at least it has that going for it.
Printer drivers are going away
It's about time
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
I haven't turned on my printer in 5 years.
The future of printing is that tablets will make it obsolete,
Seriuosly guys. How many times do I have to click on Classic before you get it?
If anything, printing has not become more personal, not mobile. All I see used in practice these days are huge office high performance machines, you know, the ones that can spew 100 pages per minutes, with documents being sent to them from real computers.
The mobile devices (smartphones and especially tablets) made electronic documents viable and portable, so nobody prints things from their phones or tablets - they already have a presentation of the document, a paper copy is not needed. Definitely there is no smartphone to printer workflow at homes.
http://i.imgur.com/4oHA0RU.png
(I know, it probably wasn't there 15 minutes ago.)
So whose printer have you been using?
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Printer drivers are going away, and mobile usage is now the norm.
No. The norm is not printing.
It only took as much as actually being able to have a paperless office.
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and the crowd goes WILD!
...they finally fixed their quota support. it has been painful to set up properly.
I am still waiting for the cups guys to realize that printers nowadays have scanners and fax functionality, too.
sane/efax/hylafax are fine (mostly), but somehow it feels wrong when you have to setup 3 daemons to configure one device...
CUPS 2.0, girl 1
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Epson printers will actually work.
Honestly, I blame Epson for the failure, they cant write drivers to save their lives.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
*we* never wanted printer drivers, *we* just wanted printers to eat postscript and spit out pages
I haven't turned on my printer in 5 years.
You must not work in an office then.
The future of printing is that tablets will make it obsolete,
Not in my lifetime or yours. I'm typing this at a desk that has so much paper on it I can barely see the desktop. Computers did not, do not and will not make paper obsolete. In actual fact computers make it easier than ever to generate vast quantities of printed documents and that is exactly what people do.
But the problem with the "paperless" office was portability.
That was merely one of many problems and not even close to the biggest problem. The biggest problem with the "paperless" office is flexibility, particularly with regard to changing work flows. Paper has many drawbacks but it has the HUGE advantage that it is enormously flexible and adaptable to different work flows. I can design a form and make lots of copies and change a work flow in minutes without anyone else needing access to a computer. To have a paperless system you need a significant amount of programming and process design every time you need to change a work flow.
It's possible to automate many work flows with electronic only documents but the work flows either need to be either fairly static or they need to fit the already existing infrastructure in place at an organization unless you are planning to make a big ($$) investment. For example at my company (a small manufacturer), we print our work instructions for jobs on the floor. Why? Primarily because the cost to make them electronic would be enormous (many new computers, lots of programming time, etc) and we would end up with a system that would be less flexible and cost more for marginal if any real benefit. Sure, I'd love to make it all paperless and maybe someday it will happen but doing so is a huge amount of work with very uncertain payback.
No. The norm is not printing.
Maybe on some other planet. Not in any office I've ever worked in.
CUPS -no double side printing ,firefox cant print anything but permissions is ok - and print from virtualbox and i thanks apple for littleness of their help in open source software .
The built-in configuration tool is still an example of exactly how *not* write a GUI. Eric Raymond wrote about this in his "Luxury of Ignorance" essay back in 2004.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cups-horror.html
There were many promises back then to clean up the mess. The "veriy positive feedback from the CUPS folks" was pure smoke in blown up the community backside, because they did *nothing* to clean up the mess in any release before now.
Old news, the Onion called it back in 2011: New Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'I'm Thinking Printers'
The paperless office seems about as likely as the paperless bathroom.
"Not in my lifetime or yours."
Don't jinx it, man.
I haven't turned on my printer in 5 years.
You must not work in an office then.
Strange enough, I haven't printed anything in the office for ages, but use my printer at home all the time. Well, my wife does mostly :-)
I wish there was a CUPS layer for Windows, so we could install it as a driver and just use the tinly little PPD like other Operating systems do rather than the 600-900Mb monstrosities that manufacturers provide as drivers.
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not as popular as that other thing
http://xkcd.com/467/
What exactly do you use a printer in an office nowadays?
Invoices, bills, work instructions, checks, deposit slips, customer statements, engineering drawings, purchase orders, material safety data sheets, 1099 forms, W2 forms, I9 forms, pick lists, work orders, quality travelers, shipping labels, packing lists and lots more. I personally print about 1000-2000 pages per month. My (tiny) company probably prints around 3000 pages per month on average. This is very normal for even a very small business.
I have worked a LOT of places and I've never seen a functional office that didn't have a lot of printing going on. You may not need much for your particular job but I am fairly certain that your business does a huge amount of printing unless you are doing something quite unusual. HP, Brother, Canon and the rest don't sell all those printers because they look nice.
Non-engineers don't really need much paper...
Bullshit they don't. I defy you to find me anyone working in accounting or HR that isn't positively drowning in paper. Some have more than others but most real businesses use quite a lot of printed paper.
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"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
I will admit there are two things still missing.
There is quite a bit more than two things missing though I agree with the deficiencies you identify among others.
Job instructions can be kept in text files that can be pushed to tablets. Guaranteeing that every person has updated instructions.
You REALLY do not want tablets on most manufacturing floors. The products we work with would trash a tablet in about a week if not sooner and we don't even do anything especially messy. Furthermore that would require buying an expensive computer for every worker on our shop floor, many of which would, ummm... disappear. What we do is keep the Controlled master copy online and then print a reference copy at the beginning of each job. The reference copy then circulates back to engineering or other parties that need it and the master controlled copies get updated for the next job. Works quite well actually.
Tablets have a variety of problems for document management:
1) The problem you mentioned that you cannot effectively annotate documents. In manufacturing, work instructions frequently need to be updated, annotated, etc. People are working on the problem but there is no universally practical solution imminent that I'm aware of.
2) Tablets break and get stolen. My wife works in a doctor's office and they use ipads for documenting patient data (good use of them) and they've had several of them stolen and one dropped and broken. You can drop paper all day long and it won't break.
3) If the software on the tablet you are working with doesn't fit your need it's a much bigger problem to fix than just modifying some paper forms.
4) Tablets are hugely impractical in a dirty production environment. Greasy/dirty fingers and tablets don't mix well.
5) Tablets require either buying or developing software to accommodate most work flows. This can be a very expensive proposition.
6) Tablets are a capital expense that has to be depreciated.
7) Most tablets are designed with consumer markets in mind rather than business needs. They are hard to lock down tightly if needed.
I can keep going. I think tablets are going to make huge inroads over time but anyone that thinks they will eliminate paper from offices is delusional.
I still print contracts that need to be signed and stored for years to come.
Yes, in theory, the contracts could be digitally signed PDF's or whatever. But when in ten years or so a conflict arises, I'll much more confident if I can pull out a paper contract than fiddle around with trying to hunt down certificate servers that are no longer around.
Paper use can be reduced, but it is a long way from being completely replaced.
I call shenanigans. If so, fuck CUPS!
"If you love someone, set them free. If they come home, set them on fire." - George Carlin
Offices I have worked in have had very little paper in them over my career (starting just before the Iraq War) but I work in tech so maybe we're on the leading edge. I literally can't think of the last time I had to touch a piece of paper specifically for work -- maybe signing my employment contract? Sometimes I use pen and paper to work out algorithms but more often I use a whiteboard.
What kind of office do you work in? There is a great diversity.
I've always preferred 38D cups!
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That epic retard Poettering announced today that a new systemd module called systemd-cupsd is beginning development. It will be tightly coupled to the entire systemd ecosystem that its pathetic apologists call modular.
If systemd-cupsd is not started or crashes PID 1 will initiate a system shutdown.