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White House Wants Ideas For "Bootstrapping a Solar System Civilization"

MarkWhittington writes Tom Kalil, the Deputy Director for Policy for the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy and Senior Advisor for Science, Technology and Innovation for the National Economic Council, has an intriguing Tuesday post on the OSTP blog. Kalil is soliciting ideas for "bootstrapping a solar system civilization." Anyone interested in offering ideas along those lines to the Obama administration can contact a special email address that has been set up for that purpose. The ideas that Kalil muses about in his post are not new for people who have studied the question of how to settle space at length. The ideas consist of sending autonomous robots to various locations in space to create infrastructure using local resources with advanced manufacturing technology, such as 3D printing. The new aspect is that someone in the White House is publicly discussing these concepts.

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  1. One word: by penguinoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Start.

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    1. Re:One word: by GNious · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Comments like your always scare me - the last thing we need is for people to think that "100% solar" (or, "100% some powersource") is in any way relevant to meeting our powerneeds.

  2. Begin planning use of Lockheed's fusion power by BenJeremy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fund NASA to explore the advantages (and mitigate issues, such as waste heat) of using fusion in space vehicles. Let's get new designs in play now, so we can get the ball rolling fast when these compact generators are practical and real. Ion thrusters, magnetic fields, life support... having hundreds of megawatts of power makes the entire solar system within reach for manned space travel.

    1. Re:Begin planning use of Lockheed's fusion power by able1234au · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Those wimpy environ-liberals are so weak they fear being irradiated by exploding rockets. Where is the fun in that. I look forward to having three eyes and a tail.

  3. Re:Baby steps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Um, because one way you've got a chance to engineer your process until you get it right, and the other way you're a loser? Because "has exhausted itself" is loser thinking all by itself?

  4. Re:You want an idea? How about we fund NASA? by AdamThor · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Indeed! The actual key in our current generation is to provide consistent direction and funding to NASA. As it is, every president comes in, makes some big talk about the Moon or Mars or something, no resources are allocated, and the next president in line makes a different set of commitments.

    A framework for a large-scale goal that is capable of withstanding our political situation is the thing we lack.

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  5. Re:so...... by tloh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I won't speculate on the intentions of OC. But bringing up oil does raise a very legitimate item of concern. For much of the 20th century, petroleum has been the critical resource that drove or enabled much of our civilization and technical infrastructure. If we are going to look skyward, we have *GOT* to start thinking differently about the resource(s) that we are going to use. Unless big oil is willing to shell out the cash for researching the exploration and mining of hydrocarbons in the Jovian system, our government has got to step up and look at what we need to power space travel on an industrial scale.

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  6. Power Source by sycodon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing will happen until you can build and loft a real power source that can generate hundreds of megawatts of energy to drive the ships and once there, power the outposts.

    Solar can be part of that but putting up a solar farm to generate enough power to provide for an actual colony would take hundreds of tons of material as compared to a compact nuke or a fusion device like recently discussed by Lockheed. Think Nuke Sub reactors.

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    1. Re:Power Source by Immerman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh, and meant to mention: solar panels are really only promising in the inner solar system, and there's just not much worth colonizing inwards of Earth and its L-points. On Mars you only have 43% of the solar intensity, so you'll be getting only 130W/kg. At about 2 AU the asteroid belt will only see ~25%, and at over 5 AU the Trojans and Jovian moons are seeing less than 4%. And then there's everything beyond Neptune, where the sun is little more than a particularly bright star - lots of mineral wealth floating out there - I've heard estimates that the Oort cloud might extend as far as a light year from the sun.

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  7. Re:For real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    Why? You haven't had a frogman living on the ocean floor either. So what? Some dreams never made any sense, and the whole kit and caboodle of Cosmism never made any sense. The sooner you'll get rid of this toxic nostalgia for goofy ideas that make no sense, the better.

  8. Insurance by Boronx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Provide low-cost federal insurance for colonization and asteroid mining missions, like we do for nuclear power plants.