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Tesla Teardown Reveals Driver-facing Electronics Built By iPhone 6 Suppliers

Lucas123 writes: The Tesla Model S gets attention because it's an EV that can go from from 0 to 60 mph (96 km/h) in 4.2 seconds and can travel 265 miles on a single charge. But, a teardown of the vehicle by IHS Technology has also revealed that Elon Musk avoided third-party design and build routes used traditionally by auto makers and spared no expense on the instrument cluster and infotainment (head unit) system, which is powered by two 1.4Ghz, quad-core NVIDIA Tegra processors. IHS called the Tesla's head unit the most sophisticated it's ever seen, with 1,000 more components than any it has previously analyzed. A bill of materials for the virtual instrument cluster and the premium media control unit is also roughly twice the cost of the highest-end infotainment unit examined by IHS.

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  1. two or three Tegras? by rwa2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "powered by two 3, 1.4Ghz, quad-core NVIDIA Tegra processors"

    Couldn't find those details in TFA, but from (the much more readable) article at: http://recode.net/2014/10/14/w...

    seems to imply that should read:

    "powered by two 1.4Ghz, quad-core NVIDIA Tegra processors"

    1. Re:two or three Tegras? by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      If Jack the Ripper lays one ectoplasmic appendage on my Tesla I hope he gets Westinghoused!

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  2. Value by istartedi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So it's expensive, but at least you get what you pay for.

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    1. Re:Value by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's what I was thinking. Sure beats some manufacturers, whose idea of a "premium" vehicle is a base model with nicer trim and a few extra parts.

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    2. Re:Value by MMC+Monster · · Score: 5, Informative

      No. The question was 'what is Tesla bringing to the table that you think makes it more than "nicer trim and a few extra parts"?'.

      And, frankly, if you need to ask what Tesla brings to the table, you haven't been reading much /. lately. A week doesn't go by without 5 Tesla articles.

      What Tesla brings to the table are:
      A complete electric drive train
      Performance to rival a sports car/supercar (depending which options you get)
      Free charging at their superchargers for the life of the vehicle
      Battery sizes that are considered best in class, if not best in any class
      A modern UI on the dashboard with free updates both to the UI as well as the mapping system (so far)
      A good warranty (8 year, unlimited mile?)
      Handling that's adjustable, from as smooth as a Lexus to as stiff as a sports car
      [I'm sure there's more that I can't think of currently]

      As for what makes it a luxury car, I'm not really sure. Probably it's price.
      The leather quality isn't as good as other luxury cars I've been in
      Ditto the stitching

      Other than that, I can't think of anything that's considered standard in a luxury car that the Tesla doesn't have.

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    3. Re:Value by UnderCoverPenguin · · Score: 2

      Free charging at their superchargers for the life of the vehicle

      Probably a very big plus. But I still can't afford one.

      Also, this reminds me: How is road tax collected? (aka, "Road Vehicle Fuel Tax" that you pay "at the pump" when refueling a non-electric vehicle)

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    4. Re:Value by SecurityTheatre · · Score: 2

      I suspect that will be addressed in the near future.

      In the short term, I am OK with gas cars subsidizing electric cars if it encourages more EV powertrain development.

    5. Re:Value by mythosaz · · Score: 2

      A number of states are pondering how to deal with this -- checking odometers, for example.

      Mine currently considers it part of the incentive to go electric and we skate on it.

    6. Re:Value by quenda · · Score: 2

      This "sled" looks exactly like an old-fashioned chassis, as used in trucks and the VW beetle.
      So the roof of the Tesla is not structural: Does this mean we can expect to see home-modified "convertible" Tesla-Ss in future, as we did for the Beetle?

  3. Re:What does this have to do with Apple/iPhone??? by sexconker · · Score: 2

    Apparently TESLA headlines weren't getting enough clicks, so they had to shove IPHONE in there too.
    This site is fucking pathetic.

  4. Re:(some) cars are gadgets now by pushing-robot · · Score: 2

    Tell you what... let's wait till the self-driving model comes out, and then you can complain about not playing the latest games on the instrument cluster.

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  5. Um, how is this news? by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Two NVIDIA Tegra processor modules are at the heart of the electronic components in the Model S, which "command a sizable price tag," according to Rassweiler. Here is a look at how they work."

    Um no... Nearly all of Tegra3's design wins (including 2012 Nexus 7) were due to it being cheap...

    Also, how is this news? It's been known for ages that the Tesla HU used Tegra3. http://www.theinquirer.net/inq... (March 2013) - and I've seen documentation dating back as far as 2012 that Tesla was using the T3.

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    1. Re:Um, how is this news? by zlives · · Score: 3, Insightful

      because there hasn't been a Tesla Advertisement (news) within the last 24 hours.
      also bitcoin

  6. Re:(some) cars are gadgets now by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ..with 1,000 more components than any it has previously analyzed.

    Is that good? That's 1000 more things that could fail.

  7. Re:What does this have to do with Apple/iPhone??? by sootman · · Score: 2

    That was exactly my thought too. But at least it's better than the original headline, which was trimmed due to length: "Tesla teardown reveals driver-facing electronics built by suppliers for the iPhone 6, made by Apple, who uses Foxconn, home of underage mistreated slave laborers who kill themselves."

    But the bigger question is, will a Tesla blend?

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  8. Re:(some) cars are gadgets now by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, wait, people aren't supposed to keep cars that long any more.

    Cars don't last like they used to. I have seen several 100 year old Ford Model-Ts. I have never seen a 100 year old Tesla.

  9. Re:(some) cars are gadgets now by ArcadeMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can see a 100 year old Tesla if you're prepared to do some grave digging.

  10. Re:(some) cars are gadgets now by Noah+Haders · · Score: 2

    my 2000 honda accord lasted 12 years and 200k miles. and it ran great and was in great condition. it only went to the graveyard because I put it into a tree.

  11. Re:What does this have to do with Apple/iPhone??? by itzly · · Score: 3, Funny

    You mean: But the bigger question is, will a Tesla bend?

  12. Re:(some) cars are gadgets now by Moof123 · · Score: 2

    Cars with 2G connections back tot eh mother ship are going to go dark soon as those system go off the air. It is hard to see a lot of manufacturers keeping servers alive for the whole 20 years car life for a lot of these features. Now GM is sticking wifi and 4G into their rigs. I'm a luddite for sure, but I just want a good reliable and fun car. Beyond the basic instrument cluster I really want any additions to be thought of on a couple decade scale.

    To jazz things up for me, cars should come with:
    1) A spare key FOB (i.e. 3 total, minimum)
    2) A decent radio that I can dumb down (if i don't have an XM subscription, it should disappear from the station list, and let me hide AM as well please).
    3) A modular GPS display that can be easily swapped out with other industry standard display/GPS/infotainment options. The proprietary crap that costs a couple hundred bucks to update the maps on is just BS, as is the ~2k price tag if it breaks.
    4) An analog speed readout, I hate digital.
    5) Buttons and controls I can manipulate easily without have to look down at them. Smooth front buttons on the radio look nice, but suck to use on the road. Dials for volume, fan speed, vent mode, etc are better than up/down switches.

    rant
    rant
    rant...

  13. Luxury auto makers suck in electronics. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Interesting
    The auto makers are mostly work with very long life cycles. Vehicles typically get used for 10 to 15 years, especially for well built luxury vehicles. Model life cycles are long too. They are not used to the fast changing world of electronics and entertainment systems. My friend driving Mercedes hates its navigation system. He often uses google maps on his iphone. My BMW balks at playing old mp3 file created by ripping CDs in WinAmp back in 2000. Every other music player and computer will play those files, BMW alone will keep crashing its music file system and resetting itself. BMW's support of bluetooth is abysmal. My 2006 Prius links without any issue any cell phone via blue tooth. Have you seen how small BMW's approved list of cell phones is? The damned thing would not even support Nexus4 or Nexus5. And if I pair it with an "unapproved" model, somehow it forgets the supported models too. Theoretically it can maintain connections to four phones simultaneously and auto switch on incoming calls. But in practice it is extremely poorly done.

    Why wouldn't they just provide a simple docking station, allow the docked device access to the car speakers and stay away from building their own navigation and music players? They still think they can hold their customers up for ransom by demanding 1800$ for an integrated navigation system or 1200$ for the music player. No, just put in good speakers and allow us to bring our own devices into the car.

    The lack of imagination of the auto makers is astounding. WiFi is what 15 years old? iPod is 10 years old? Why didn't they build a car with WiFi that will connect to your home, down load daily news, weather, traffic reports into the hard disk 10 years ago? After missing the boat then, now they are coming up with walled gardens of WiFi, memory storage in the car etc.

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  14. lame by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

    let me guess... the car doesn't run if you unplug the radio?

    I cant stand the way they integrate radios so far into a car now that you have no option to replace it should you want to. I don't care how good this system is, many people who buy the car wont want it. I should be able to swap it out for anything I want. When I replaced my fords "Microsoft Sync" radio a while back it killed my entire dash. I had to spend $200 on a translation computer to replace the bit of the radio that controlled the dash.

    Seriously, there's already an industry standard for car radios, screens, audio data, remote control, everything. Do us all a favor and follow industry standard.

  15. Nothing says luxury... by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Funny

    Nothing says luxury like simulated wood grain accents.

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    1. Re:Nothing says luxury... by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      Nothing says luxury like simulated wood grain accents.

      ... and Bose stamps on your cheap Chinese speakers.

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    2. Re:Nothing says luxury... by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Nothing says luxury like an exclusive price that the nobodies can not afford. From wine to clothing, price defines quality and egoistic gullibility defines worth. Luxury is no longer about any values other than exclusivity where excluding the majority from it and being able to pose with it, is what it really is all about.

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  16. It had better be reliable! by olddoc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A 100 year old steam car can be kept running. A 70 year old Ford can be a daily driver. What will happen to an electric Tesla when the first capacitor on the control panel CPU craps out in 10 years? Will spare motherboards be available? Will you be able to drive the car when the computer controlling the battery cooler dies? Or will it become a brick? That central panel isn't the radio, it is indispensable to the operation of the vehicle! BTW I've driven a Tesla S Supersport and it is a lot of fun to drive and a worked very well.

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    1. Re:It had better be reliable! by afidel · · Score: 2

      You do the same thing you do with mechanical parts, you buy OEM replacement parts (federal requirements require that a certain number of each part be produced for every x vehicles sold), buy a non-OEM compatible part, or you rebuild or replace the failed component. In the case of the computer controlled battery controller you would install a Tesla spare, a rebuilt Tesla part, another electronically controlled fan, or a simple thermostatically controlled fan with sufficient safety margin to not risk an overheating situation but probably at the expense of some driving range. If you think a 70, or even 20 year old ICE car is going to be a daily driver without some combination of the above you've never worked on anything not supported by a current dealer network.

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  17. Re:(some) cars are gadgets now by michelcolman · · Score: 2

    The self driving model is out, it just needs a software update to actually have the autopilot functionality. All cars delivered today have the hardware and will be able to get the update.

    I thought I'd also mention the top model now does 0-60 3.2 seconds (P85D), the 4.2 mentioned in the summary is the older P85. Probably an older article?

  18. Re:(some) cars are gadgets now by jratcliffe · · Score: 2, Informative

    1. Any car can be self-driving. SUCCESSFULLY self-driving is something entirely different. Does the Telsa have the full suite of sensors (including LIDAR) that the Google self-driving vehicles have?

    2. The new "autopilot" feature will NOT be available on the existing base - it's just for cars being built now and in the future:

    "Every single Model S now rolling out of the factory includes a forward radar, 12 long range ultrasonic sensors positioned to sense 16 feet around the car in every direction at all speeds, a forward looking camera, and a high precision, digitally controlled electric assist braking system."

    http://www.teslamotors.com/blo...

  19. Re:(some) cars are gadgets now by michelcolman · · Score: 3, Informative

    1. It doesn't use LIDAR which is way too expensive. Just cameras, ultrasonic sensors and forward radar. The self driving capabilities are modest for now: lane keeping, changing lanes on command, distance keeping, etc. Many of those capabilities already exist in other cars, it's just an evolution of existing technology. It now actually allows you to take your hands off the wheel. Not as good as Google's cars, but those are many years away from the market while Tesla's simpler solution should be ready in a few months.

    2. I meant "All cars being delivered today", not those that have been delivered before. I agree I should have phrased it better. The sensors started appearing on new cars a few weeks ago. All of those are capable of autopilot.

  20. Doesn't have to be OEM by Zynder · · Score: 2

    *sigh* you can replace it with an aftermarket EFI system, too, instead of carbing it. Just because the part doesn't have Ford stamped on it, doesn't mean it can't work on it! You can directly swap another Ford EFI engine in. You could do any number of things other than carbing it or scrapping it. You just aren't using your imagination or you're terribly lazy. Where did the hacker culture of Slashdot go? I thought this was supposed to be the year of the Maker?

    Also those that just have to have OEM parts amuse me. You fell for the hype. It's cool though, it's your money you're wasting.

  21. Re:(some) cars are gadgets now by Teancum · · Score: 2

    But you can buy a 100 year old Baker Electric..... with original batteries that still work!