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Facebook 'Safety Check' Lets Friends Know You're OK After a Major Disaster

rtoz (2530056) writes Facebook has launched a new Tool called "Safety Check." The Facebook Safety Check tool will notify your friends so that they know you're OK after a major disaster. In times of disaster or crisis, people turn to Facebook to check on loved ones and get updates. "During a major disaster, Safety Check will help you: Let friends and family know you're safe; Check on others in the affected area; Mark your friends as safe ... When the tool is activated after a natural disaster and if you're in the affected area, you'll receive a Facebook notification asking if you're safe. [Facebook] will determine your location by looking at the city you have listed in your profile, your last location if you've opted in to the Nearby Friends product, and the city where you are using the internet. ... If you're safe, you can select "I'm Safe" and a notification and News Feed story will be generated with your update. Your friends can also mark you as safe." More creepy, or more reassuring?

130 comments

  1. Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by haruchai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How fucking hard is that.

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    1. Re: Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by mimeflu · · Score: 0

      I only have two friends. Sob.

    2. Re: Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll be your friend?

    3. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or a that's what she said button. :|

    4. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better yet: +1 Insightful, +1 Interesting, -1 Troll, etc, buttons!

    5. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you really that stupid that you don't know why Facebook will NEVER have a dislike button?

    6. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by dubbayu_d_40 · · Score: 1

      You would think that with that low of an id, you'd have learned about drunk posting by now. Not that I'm any better, but 17K, I hold you to a higher standard.

    7. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by haruchai · · Score: 1

      No.

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    8. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would suck. That would be like Facebook telling us that we can't dislike their info harvesting unless we hand over our personal info.

    9. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by haruchai · · Score: 1, Funny

      You've got it backwards. With this low an ID, I get to post whatever I feel like. Otherwise, what's the point?

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    10. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      How fucking hard is that.

      Today Facebook's market cap is about 188 billions U.S. dollars. Somehow I think they're doing okay without your direction.

    11. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've got it backwards. With this low an ID, I get to post whatever I feel like. Otherwise, what's the point?

      It's always hilarious watching geeks size each other up by their ePenis.

      Kind of makes you wonder who's compensating for something.

    12. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by haruchai · · Score: 1

      That's the privilege of being an AC or someone who just doesn't have a nice IDpeen.
      Those who can, do and those who can't, lurk.

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    13. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by haruchai · · Score: 2

      Come to think of it, so were Enron, Worldcom & Blackberry.

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    14. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, we know you don't have much of an e-penis which is a tragedy for someone who enjoys other guys measuring theirs.
      Nothing sadder than a dickless fag.

    15. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by mysidia · · Score: 1

      They have a kind-of-Dislike option for things that show up in your news feed, and it is called: I don't want to see this

      And comments have an X button.

      It understandably requires two clicks to dislike.

    16. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by haruchai · · Score: 1

      Not at all the same thing. YouTube and most of the news sites I frequent have a thumbs up / down.

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    17. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, we know you don't have much of an e-penis which is a tragedy for someone who enjoys other guys measuring theirs.
      Nothing sadder than a dickless fag.

      It's hilariously sad.

      Almost as sad as your misinterpretation that a e-penis actually means fuck-all to anyone in the real world. You know, that place you clearly avoid while trying to compensate in cyberspace.

      Continue enjoying your virtual circle jerk.

    18. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by koan · · Score: 2

      That would drive some of the sheep away when they discover how lame they are by the amount of "dislikes" they get.

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    19. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it means so little, why have so many, including you, posted so much about it?
      Congrats on typing so well one-handed.

    20. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Eh? Slashdot, Ycombinator, and most other major news sites have no thumbs down options.

      Youtube, Quora, and Reddit do, but I would say they are unusual exceptions to the rule.

      Most sites provide no "downvote " option, only Thumbs up / Like, or occasionally "Report to moderator"

    21. Re: Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by rwa2 · · Score: 2

      Not after that really mean thing you said that one time.

    22. Re: Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mimeflu (2710953) is all alone in the world.

    23. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -1, Dislike.

    24. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by haruchai · · Score: 1

      Slashdot has 10 options you can moderate a comment, if you have points.
      What sites do you consider "major news sites" - I suspect we may not agree on what those are.

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    25. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      It apparently means something to the noobs.

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    26. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      REKT

    27. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because it's for cheerful morons only?

    28. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have probably patented it already, so FB would have to pay 1 Trillion USD to add a dislike button.

    29. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because fluffy bunnies and kittens.

    30. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Fnord666 · · Score: 1

      Slashdot has 10 options you can moderate a comment, if you have points.

      If you're using mod points as a dislike button, you're doing it wrong.

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    31. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by haruchai · · Score: 1

      And I certainly hope that no one is using them as a "like" button but I very frequently find comments modded up that are a headscratcher.

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    32. Re: Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Meski · · Score: 1

      If AC has only said one mean thing to you, you're lucky :)

    33. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by Meski · · Score: 1

      A slider from -5 to +5, with 0 being utter indifference.

    34. Re:Would sooner have a Dislike button than this by RockDoctor · · Score: 1
      I don't get to post whenever I like ; I only get to post when I've got an internet connection.

      I wonder what proportion of Slashdot users today were conceived while we were posting? I bet it's not 0%, and I bet the number is increasing.

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  2. How is it creepy? by Nutria · · Score: 1

    ISTM that panicky mothers would *love* this...

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    1. Re:How is it creepy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's neither creepy nor more reassuring, it's blatant advertising.

    2. Re:How is it creepy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ISTM that panicky mothers would *love* this...

      Creepy? Who, us?

      Rest assured we will not release this data. After all, we don't release or sell any of your other data. Don't be alarmed that the largest human database in the world will start tracking all those infected, sick, or in trouble in some way using this "feature", building a hot-spot map for the CDC and the like (can you say targeted medical ads?).

      Don't worry though. Your Obamacare personalized health care plan rates won't go up much. And we won't sell this information to potential employers as a nefarious way to discriminate against those who might abuse medical benefits.

      We pinky promise.

    3. Re:How is it creepy? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      Somehow I doubt Facebook is particularly interested in the personal data of the people signing up for this - they already HAVE that, by definition.

      No, it's another way to expand their shadow profiles and collect more data on those people who aren't on Facebook, but are friends with (or related to) people that are.

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  3. In addition to letting everyone know you're OK, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Facebook will helpfully sell your contact info to survival supply and emergency shelter companies. Hey, they're just trying to help you out.

  4. yeah, going with not creepy. by Sowelu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For the audience this is aimed at (which isn't most slashdotters), definitely reassuring. Facebook has a *huge* base of people who just use it to keep in touch with family's lives, and the ability to mark Grandma as okay even if her internet is down is pretty appealing.

    Also good for antisocial people, you can avoid being bothered by a flood of people who are just checking up.

    1. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and the ability to mark Grandma as okay even if her internet is down is pretty appealing.

      The Internet will be one of the first things to go down in a disaster. The fact that Grandma hasn't told Facebook she's ok because she can't get to Facebook will only scare Grandma's relatives. Same for Grandpa, Pa, Ma, Jr., Missie, etc. This will drive an overload of existing resources as panicky people outside the area try even harder to reach in to find out loved ones status', because my goodness if they haven't said they're ok using this app, they are probably not.

      In other words, the existence of this "feature" will become like email -- assumed to be 100% reliable and fast, and if someone hasn't clicked the "I'm OK" button the assumption won't be "the internet is down and they can't, be patient", it will be "they're dead and cannot click a simple button. Panic!"

    2. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Funny

      and the ability to mark Grandma as okay even if her internet is down

      Neither RFC 1149 - IP over Avian Carriers nor RFC 2549 - IP over Avian Carriers with QoS protocol are implemented by my local carrier pigeon, you ignorant clod!

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    3. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Countdown before we have the first 911 caller because "they didn't say they were OK on Facebook!"

    4. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sooo.. posting, "I'm okay" or changing your status to "I'm safe" or whatever Facebook people do isn't good enough and straight to the point? Sounds like a solution to a problem that never existed.

    5. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Only old people use Facebook. Young people keep a clean profile on it but they don't really use it... because, you know, even their grandparents are on it.

    6. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      Neither RFC 1149 - IP over Avian Carriers nor RFC 2549 - IP over Avian Carriers with QoS protocol are implemented by my local carrier pigeon, you ignorant clod!

      ISPs throttling traffic takes on a whole new dimension with these protocols. They can roast the pigeons after throttling them and feed people who are homeless because of the disaster! Throttling network traffic is a Good Thing! And imagine the visual imagery as they demonstrate what "bottleneck" means as they run the roast pigeon through the meat grinder to make pigeon sausage. Youse can only puts so many pigeons through the grinder at the same time ...

    7. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the audience this is aimed at (which isn't most slashdotters), definitely reassuring. Facebook has a *huge* base of people who just use it to keep in touch with family's lives, and the ability to mark Grandma as okay even if her internet is down is pretty appealing.

      Also good for antisocial people, you can avoid being bothered by a flood of people who are just checking up.

      Clearly you fail to understand how Facebook is worth $200 billion.

      One doesn't simply horde all of the data generated from the largest human database on the planet.

    8. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by MouseR · · Score: 1

      The idea is that in times of crisis, communications typically break down with over-flooded infrastructures.

      This enables quick low-threshold OK-notification that propagate your status without you having to load an entire journal history on login nor requiring potentially more expensive (bandwidth-wise) form of communications like emails.

    9. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone in Seattle with CenturyLink with a 192 kbps connection, I think they're already doing this. This city sucks for Internet access. My DSL modem status page:

      http://upstate.net/jen/centurylink_dsl.png

      Now that I think about it, if the pigeons were carrying flash drives, I'd have faster access than I have now.

    10. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Looks pretty bad. Maybe you can invent a new meme: Never underestimate the bandwidth of a pigeon with a load of flash drives.

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    11. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sooo.. posting, "I'm okay" or changing your status to "I'm safe" or whatever Facebook people do isn't good enough and straight to the point? Sounds like a solution to a problem that never existed.

      The sad part is, I'm sure some idiot is going to get a promotion and a raise for this garbage.

    12. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      They can roast the pigeons after throttling them and feed people who are homeless because of the disaster!

      Yes, already planned for, that's called the Exponential Bakeoff algorithm.

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    13. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      There is no OK in FaceboOK.

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    14. Re: yeah, going with not creepy. by SwabTheDeck · · Score: 1

      There are many different types of disasters, and certainly plenty that won't necessarily cause the Internet to go down. And as far as people panicking if grandma isn't tagged as safe, that's the whole point of letting friends mark other friends as safe. Maybe grandma was able to call uncle Jimmy 1000 miles away and so he was able to mark her as safe.

    15. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by rioki · · Score: 1

      Yes yes, but what about the latency?

    16. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      Sure the latency is bad - but look at it this way - you get to snack on the transport layer while waiting for the next pigeon-packet :-)

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    17. Re:yeah, going with not creepy. by rioki · · Score: 1

      +1 Funny

  5. Facebook is really trying... by bogaboga · · Score: 1

    I say that because I was one of those who thought that after about a decade of existence, its usage would be on the wane. I guess I was wrong. They are really trying to remain relevant.

    I salute them for that even though in my small world, Facebook is still of no consequence.

  6. Oh Noes by pipingguy · · Score: 5, Funny

    What if the disaster is that Facebook is down?

    1. Re:Oh Noes by NotInHere · · Score: 1

      You can still say you're OK.

    2. Re:Oh Noes by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Funny

      What if the disaster is that Facebook is down?

      You have a strange definition of disaster, friend :-)

      Disaster:

      • 1. a sudden event, such as an accident or a natural catastrophe, that causes great damage or loss of life.
      • 2. denoting a genre of films that use natural or accidental catastrophe as the mainspring of plot and setting.
      • 3. an event or fact that has unfortunate consequences.

      The term you are looking for is "fortuitous"

      • 1. happening by accident or chance rather than design.
      • 2. happening by a lucky chance; fortunate.
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    3. Re:Oh Noes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For that, call 911.

    4. Re:Oh Noes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if the disaster is that Facebook is down?

      That already happened.

      Scroll to 2:44 and you will see breaking news that facebook is down.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX7KjGW4Wm4

      Maybe online newspapers aren't the only reason why TV news are losing viewers fast.

    5. Re:Oh Noes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Kitsap-County-road-crews-battling-a-persistent-beaver-277848171.html?tab=video&c=y
      00:37 in, is that graffiti of a penis?

      Also, apparently KOMO doesn't have a delay for live events. Or they slipped up. Like when a woman pulled her top off and showed her breasts. I think they were covering some runners or something. Or about to run.

  7. I'm OK guys! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really guys, I'm OK!

  8. Buried under rubble by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

    if you're in the affected area, you'll receive a Facebook notification asking if you're safe.

    "No. I'm not."

    1. Re:Buried under rubble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      my guess is, to limit liability, that you can only choose 'safe'; like you can only choose to 'like' something. having a 'not safe' option opens facebook up to liability if they do not notify authorities of someone that they know is not safe and has the usual privacy implications if they do tell 3rd parties about you. not to forget the flood of activity and rumors that will spread like wildfires in california if the site posts someone as being 'not safe' after a disaster.

    2. Re:Buried under rubble by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      How about an "I'm dead" button, cool creepiness factor there.

    3. Re:Buried under rubble by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      +1 funny

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  9. phones during events by Osgeld · · Score: 1

    everyone gets on their phone at a slightly windy thunderstorm clogging up the networks (voice, data or pots) so I understand that having a OK button to click is more desirable, but does it really solve the problem when everyone and their dog is A) still calling B) trying to update a half dozen media sites and C) now facebook is going to auto spam you complete with graphics and ad's

    seems like if you really want to help in this situation it would be better to have phones that can mesh together and ping pong data around until it can find a outlet that is not damaged or clogged, instead of "every phone for itself" system.

    1. Re:phones during events by Firethorn · · Score: 2

      A) still calling B) trying to update a half dozen media sites and C) now facebook is going to auto spam you complete with graphics and ad's

      Okay, in my experience with the military every time there was a major disaster somewhere in the world I had to tell my command that I was safe and that I didn't have any immediate family in the affected area. They eventually mostly automated this with a website I could use.

      So, at least theoretically facebook could dispense with the graphics and ads and send minimal amounts of data, even stuff like 'respond to this text with your status to auto-update', using a few kilobytes rather than megabytes. Done widely enough this would indeed help lower the strain on communication infrastructures during times of emergency while allowing more people to update their status.

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  10. Would have loved this in 2005 in London by mahju · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I lived in London in 2005 when the terror attacks happened there, and my morning commute took me through kings cross. That day with the mobile network switched off, it was hard to let people know I was ok, know if my girlfriend was, and many other people I knew took. Sure there was landlines to call direct if you knew where people were, or email as a bit of a broadcast I'm ok, but something like this would have been far better.

    1. Re:Would have loved this in 2005 in London by Obfuscant · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That day with the mobile network switched off, it was hard to let people know I was ok, ... but something like this would have been far better.

      So you'd use the mobile network to contact Facebook to let everyone else know ... umm, wait. What mobile network? And you'd use the shut-off mobile network to check FB to see if your girlfriend had used the same shut-off mobile network to let FB know she was ok.

      Here's an idea. Prior to any disaster, plan. Pick someone in a different area that y'all who live in the same area can text with your info, and then y'all can use SMS to let everyone know you're ok. SMS is most likely to survive a disaster, much more than voice or data.

    2. Re:Would have loved this in 2005 in London by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

      By definition, if the internet is down I am NOT okay.

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    3. Re:Would have loved this in 2005 in London by complete+loony · · Score: 1

      But this doesn't really add anything. You can use facebook for this purpose anyway by posting an "I'm ok, and so is " status message.

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    4. Re:Would have loved this in 2005 in London by mahju · · Score: 1

      The part you missed, before ranting on, was all mobile was off, voice, and your SMS. Different type of event that day, mobiles off to stop any other attacks.
      The internet was up - you know you can use the internet without mobile networks right?

    5. Re:Would have loved this in 2005 in London by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except if the government/police decided to switch off the network because it's afraid of more bombs that are to be triggered via cell-phone...

      I wonder if some clever terrorist will start using a smartphone, and when it sees a particular SSID (say some train stations have particular WiFi nets around them), trigger the bomb.

      Hello to NSA, CIA, and FBI agents reading this post!

    6. Re:Would have loved this in 2005 in London by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      I left Kings Cross station in 1987 six minutes before the stairwell I had just ascended went up in flames. I was glad of the phone box on the corner, my mother could barely hear me over the sirens though.

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    7. Re:Would have loved this in 2005 in London by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      I left Kings Cross station in 1987 six minutes before the stairwell I had just ascended went up in flames. I was glad of the phone box on the corner, my mother could barely hear me over the sirens though.

      In 1987 you were probably back home in the basement before the Beeb had covered the event, so you could shout up the stairs to your mother that "I was there, look, I'm ok, can you bring down some meatloaf" when the news came over the telly.

    8. Re:Would have loved this in 2005 in London by ihtoit · · Score: 1

      considering the BBC covered it live, and I've lived most of my life 120 miles away in Nottingham, that scenario is unlikely to ridiculous.

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  11. All apart of the bigger picture "Virtual Relaity" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After Zukerberg finishes the Oculus Rift and his ability to monetize people even more, he needs a fail safe in place to make sure comatose users aren't stuck and brain dead in his virtual worlds.

  12. This is the only time I use Facebook by mspohr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have had family members in NZ earthquake and a few other misc disasters. Facebook was the best way to find out if they were ok.

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    1. Re:This is the only time I use Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They didn't have a phone that you could call? Cell phone or land line?

    2. Re:This is the only time I use Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would involve an expensive international long distance call. How is that better then free facebook?

  13. Sorry But we can't rescue you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you need a facebook account first.

  14. Re:I presume by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    JESUS will return. Even if he has been marked as dead, HE WILL COME BACK.

  15. Re:I presume by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eh that's what 911 is for.

  16. Re:I presume by Teresita · · Score: 1

    Jesus will return next March when I need him to mow my lawn again.

  17. uhh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chances are, if you have access to failbook, you have access to a working phone.. just give them a call, otherwise it shows how little you really care about your "loved ones".

  18. One thing that is creepy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Getting served beta.slashdot.org when I asked for slashdot.org.

    Hey editors... I don't want this fucking view! It sucked a year ago and it still sucks! Hello?? Anybody home???

    1. Re:One thing that is creepy by Teresita · · Score: 1

      Buck Feta. That's why I went to lynx.

    2. Re:One thing that is creepy by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      I've seen the beta exactly once. I told it to go away, and it's never come back.

      I guess I really am special, after all.

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  19. pay to have it reach everyone by jjbarrows · · Score: 1

    How much will it cost to make sure everyone sees it??

    1. Re:pay to have it reach everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's the beauty of this:

      Get a boatload of people looking at Facebook anytime there is a little disaster.

      Even better, once people start using it, get the federal government to subsidize Facebook, as it's now a "public service."

      Even better, now that it's a "public service" claim a portion of the company's costs as "donations".

      Even better, now that it's a "public service", remove federal income taxes from Facebook.

      The great beauty of this is that it replaces that onerous thing called text messaging, or, even worse, bulk emailing, with the need to use the web, and even more bandwidth.

  20. needs internet connection to work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Safety Check is a nice idea. The feature will work if internet access is available during and after a major disaster. Fortunately, at least for me, internet outages are rare. Cell phone, 2G, 3G, 4G systems can be overloaded though. We might have better luck with a landline (dial-up/cable/ISDN) connection. Don't laugh: my flip phone didn't work after the earthquake in Virginia a few years ago. The deracho damaged some cell sites in my neighborhood but the landline still worked. Then the question becomes, how do we connect a laptop to the internet if the power is out and the 3G/4G cell phone service is disrupted? Hmm. Perhaps a dial-up modem would work... but we need a dial-up account first.

    As I said above, interruptions to broadband internet can occur, but are somewhat rare. Well, there is a Verizon internet and phone outage in part of Northern Virginia. :( http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26805692/verizon-outage-in-southwest-alexandria-could-last-several-days

    1. Re:needs internet connection to work by mlts · · Score: 1

      Problem is that the Safety Check assumes FB knows where you are. I have that switched off, either via iOS's allow/deny access to the GPS, or on Android since permissions are all or nothing, XPrivacy feeds it a random place each time.

      For example, One of three things will happen if I eat a twister while RV-ing:

      1: I'm dead.
      2: I'm injured (hopefully the SPOT device or phone works.)
      3: I'm OK enough to start sending texts and FB posts out with pics of the mess.

      If I'm dead, it won't be that long before it is found out. Injured, similar. The benefits of getting asked if I'm OK don't outweigh the fact of being being tracked via location 24/7 and having that info handed to whomever feels like buying it.

  21. This could work in conjuction with ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1
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  22. In related news... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

    ... Facebook will also track your progress in Softball games using GPS and your last location on the field, if you've opted in to the Facebook Knows Where You Are at All Times product, to generate a notification when it thinks you've crossed a base or home. If you're safe, you can select "I'm Safe" and a notification and News Feed story will be generated with your updated stats.

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  23. TruYou by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From Mom

  24. It's a trap ... by CaptainDork · · Score: 1

    Corporations are masters at the parallel proposal pf doing US some good when actually, it does THEM hundreds of times better.

    Facebook wants to be in our face and they really, truly, want our real names and location and they want to be tapped in on any revenue prospecting opportunity like a disaster.

    Doesn't twitter already occupy this space?

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  25. Overly complicated by CheeseTroll · · Score: 1

    Why not just post a status update that sats "I'm fine. Munching on a Pop-Tart."

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    1. Re:Overly complicated by kosmosik · · Score: 1

      Because from Facebook's POV (huh) such status update is not related to major disaster. As I see it they are doing it to omit liability in case your status update in fact would be real in case of serious incident. Right now they are doing serious filtering of what gets into your feed since they are shit crazed about people leaving Facebook getting sick of all the irrelevant crap they see. This (proposed in the article) way they can select on the basis of fact of some disaster happening who can post such updates and these updates would be omitted by their what-is-interesting-and-what-is-not filters.
       

  26. Facebook Anal Probe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good News Everyone!!! The burrito has left the building!

  27. you want creepy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > For the audience this is aimed at (which isn't most slashdotters), definitely reassuring. Facebook has a *huge* base of people who just use it to keep in touch with family's lives, and the ability to mark Grandma as okay even if her internet is down is pretty appealing.

    yes! except, are the kids ok? won't work. not allowed on FB. But its ok they're just kids, and you know the rules for kids: must be born no matter what, but there's no need to feed them or get them medical care! there you go.

    also, except if you're one of those fucks whos been tarred as a "violent or sexual offender", because you know, those are below human consideration, not allowed on facebook. its the perfect tar and feathering, never mind if it was your own bush in your own back yard you were peeing on or you were clobbering a home invader or it was your boyfriend you sent a pic of your tits to or if it was consensual and nothing to do with "children" but some pitchforker found out or you were breaking up a fight or your curtains were open or your "offense" was 80 years ago.

    fuck facebook and fuck the inquisition. no, I'm not in favor of pedophiles or pedophilia * people who chase non-sexual children * but anyone who thinks those assholes are actually what the crazypants sexual jihad tar party is really focused on is just flat out ignorant

    kid I know is tarred for life for having sex with his consenting, 1-year younger girlfriend, they were both about 16-17 at the time. they arrested him at work, at subway, dragged him away cuffed in front of everyone then railroaded him in court. romeo and juliet laws, you say? too late for him. everyone looks at him like hes going to start eating babies any second now. you can just about see the pitchforks and torches. aht, whatever. he cant get a decent job, he cant go to school, isnt allowed on facefuck, an his face is plastered all over the state and national websites as if he was some kind of risk, whatevs, not like anyone gives a crap. 99.999% of the supposedly "smart" people who read this post probably have a lit torch in their hands right now becuz how much fun is it to drool and hate without engaging your brain anyways, and plus its free! all of you like that, youre worse than most of the people on those lists

    youll run right out and vote for the first candidate that says theyre going to be even "tougher". you know who Im talking to, you evil suckpies. an you wont do shit to fix the problem even if you do understand it. yeah you, you self-rightous, uninformed, pitchfork-waving villager sack of pond scum

    no, smarmyfucks, I DONT feel better

    you want creepy, just look in the fucking mirror.

    1. Re:you want creepy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > For the audience this is aimed at (which isn't most slashdotters), definitely reassuring. Facebook has a *huge* base of people who just use it to keep in touch with family's lives, and the ability to mark Grandma as okay even if her internet is down is pretty appealing.

      yes! except, are the kids ok? won't work. not allowed on FB. But its ok they're just kids, and you know the rules for kids: must be born no matter what, but there's no need to feed them or get them medical care! there you go.

      also, except if you're one of those fucks whos been tarred as a "violent or sexual offender", because you know, those are below human consideration, not allowed on facebook. its the perfect tar and feathering, never mind if it was your own bush in your own back yard you were peeing on or you were clobbering a home invader or it was your boyfriend you sent a pic of your tits to or if it was consensual and nothing to do with "children" but some pitchforker found out or you were breaking up a fight or your curtains were open or your "offense" was 80 years ago.

      fuck facebook and fuck the inquisition. no, I'm not in favor of pedophiles or pedophilia * people who chase non-sexual children * but anyone who thinks those assholes are actually what the crazypants sexual jihad tar party is really focused on is just flat out ignorant

      kid I know is tarred for life for having sex with his consenting, 1-year younger girlfriend, they were both about 16-17 at the time. they arrested him at work, at subway, dragged him away cuffed in front of everyone then railroaded him in court. romeo and juliet laws, you say? too late for him. everyone looks at him like hes going to start eating babies any second now. you can just about see the pitchforks and torches. aht, whatever. he cant get a decent job, he cant go to school, isnt allowed on facefuck, an his face is plastered all over the state and national websites as if he was some kind of risk, whatevs, not like anyone gives a crap. 99.999% of the supposedly "smart" people who read this post probably have a lit torch in their hands right now becuz how much fun is it to drool and hate without engaging your brain anyways, and plus its free! all of you like that, youre worse than most of the people on those lists

      youll run right out and vote for the first candidate that says theyre going to be even "tougher". you know who Im talking to, you evil suckpies. an you wont do shit to fix the problem even if you do understand it. yeah you, you self-rightous, uninformed, pitchfork-waving villager sack of pond scum

      no, smarmyfucks, I DONT feel better

      you want creepy, just look in the fucking mirror.

      Don't hold back, friend. Tell us how you really feel.

  28. Disaster: Facebook abusing your info by penguinoid · · Score: 1

    Facebook comment: don't worry, I'm OK!

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  29. infrequent user problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I can just imagine what my timeline would look like...

    "Going on a blind internet date - wish me luck!" ... six months later ...

    "> is alive!"

  30. It's cool but of limited utility. by Lord+Kano · · Score: 1

    In 2011, I couldn't reach my sister for over an hour after an earthquake. It would have been awesome if I could have just checked her page.

    LK

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  31. Why? by floodo1 · · Score: 1

    I just use phone/email instead :)

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  32. AHHHHH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm trapped! Wait I can use my phone to tell everyone on FB that I'm "NOT OK". OH SHIT! Hit the wrong button! ... *phone drops on stone and breaks* ... well f***

    (Staring Zuckerberg as the trapped idiot)

  33. Disaster thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    As a designer of systems for use in alerting during disasters (Tsunado) in New Zealand, we have had to think long and hard about what telecommunications platforms to use when disaster strikes. Unfortunately IP and cellular networks are incredibly fragile. Broadcast networks, even if they are compromised, are the easiest to restore quickly. However they are suitable only for outgoing messaging.
    The peer to peer systems such as what Facebook are promoting here, are already implemented in local systems here in NZ (such as Cloud-M) and they have the advantage of being "local". However, in a major disaster you have to plan for the likelihood of interruptions to both international and national data traffic.
    Whatever, all these systems are designed for certain levels of use, and when a disaster strikes, and everyone attempts to go "online", then these systems die, by being swamped. Even the reliable old "copper wire" telephone exchanges were designed only for about 15% usage at any one time.
    The so called "man up" systems to help communicate with family and friends will always be reliant on the health of the underlying communications platforms. Fibre, copper and other physical mediums will be knocked out for significant times during earthquakes and ineffective during power outages. Wireless will get overloaded immediately, and if power is lost, we find their backup regimes tend to be short.
    Until these obstacles are overcome, the best approach is to have established plans with your family to respond in predictable ways during an event. Plan to congregate at an established location, or have an alternative if that area is inaccessible. Have established responsibilities and of course access to survival packs. And have a battery powered radio! Sometimes old is best.

    1. Re:Disaster thinking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New Zealand is shit. Why isn't it part of a proper country, i.e. Australia or Samoa?

  34. I see another problem. by Mal-2 · · Score: 1

    Disasters don't always strike independently.

    You survived The Big One. Great! You reported yourself safe. Even better! Too bad the ensuing tsunami got you, and nobody thought to go looking for you.

    Or an aftershock.

    Or a fire from a broken gas line.

    Or a shortage of water and/or food.

    You're not fine until you can get on with your life.

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    1. Re:I see another problem. by antdude · · Score: 1

      That is why you keep posting status updates. :P

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  35. There is no "I'm not safe" button by jones_supa · · Score: 1

    The options are only "I'm safe" and "I'm not in the area". Other people can't now distinguish between the situations that you are not safe or that you have just not got around to click a button.

  36. In the 'bricks and mortar' world, by jenningsthecat · · Score: 1

    ...they call this "checking inventory".

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  37. And if not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some people won't be OK. Some people won't be OK, but better than dead. Don't they need to allow for a middle ground, like I'm presently Ozzie Osborne?

  38. yeah, going with not creepy. by Cyberdyne · · Score: 2

    I actually like the idea - having been on an overnight flight landing on 9/11, I remember quite a few online contacts wanting to check I was OK. Of course, with Facebook a simple status update would have done the trick, no need for any special tool - and if I'd been offline, a friend could probably have posted that on my page on my behalf. (The gap between "can phone a friend" and "can get online" is pretty slim these days, too: much more so now than it was then.)

  39. Is it safe? by 0111+1110 · · Score: 1
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  40. Your friends can also mark you as safe by tomhath · · Score: 1

    That seems like the best part. If you have no internet connection, all you need to do is contact one person (who might need to contact another person) who can mark you safe. That would cut down a lot of phone traffic on a system that will be congested or downgraded.

  41. Can't I just post a message on Facebook? by darkonc · · Score: 1
    Isn't that what status messages and timeline posts are for??

    Status message: "I'm in Liberia and I don't have a fever (yet)..."
    On Sarah's timeline: I just got a text from Sarah... Her hotel in Bermuda is OK, but power is out.

    What does Facebook's great addition do that this doesn't (other than give them an excuse to track where I am)?

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    1. Re:Can't I just post a message on Facebook? by kosmosik · · Score: 1

      Facebook filters your wall posts so not everything you post gets to everybody's feed. They are afraid people using Facebook get too many meaningless information from other people like look I just watched this Youtube video and you should too. So they use algorithms that select data you post to other people. I guess they select it by number of likes, views etc. So given that they DO censor what you post they are afraid that they could censor also such important information regarding your safety. But they are not afraid about you - they are afraid about legal issues surrounding this. So they invented a way to control whether you are allowed or not to post such critical information. In my opinion this is just about covering their asses, not about your safety.

  42. So, the default is "I'm not OK" by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1
    When there is a disaster in my area, the default that my friends will be seeing (on the basis that I've not told a company that I'm OK) is "I'm not OK?

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    Facebook should make this "feature" opt-in, not "you're using this feature whether you want to or not".

  43. where is the "Expunge my data" button? by ihtoit · · Score: 1

    Fuck everything else, fuck the dislike button, I want the ability to DELETE identifiable information from facebook.

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  44. Ni by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

    Or "aaaaaargh".

    It might only work if you dictate it.

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