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Manga Images Depicting Children Lead to Conviction in UK

An anonymous reader writes with this news from the UK, as reported by Ars Technica: A 39-year-old UK man has been convicted of possessing illegal cartoon drawings of young girls exposing themselves in school uniforms and engaging in sex acts. The case is believed to be the UK's first prosecution of illegal manga and anime images. Local media said that Robul Hoque was sentenced last week to nine months' imprisonment, though the sentence is suspended so long as the defendant does not break the law again. Police seized Hoque's computer in 2012 and said they found nearly 400 such images on it, none of which depicted real people but were illegal nonetheless because of their similarity to child pornography. Hoque was initially charged with 20 counts of illegal possession but eventually pled guilty to just 10 counts.

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  1. Ridiculous by SuperDre · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is when people just go too far.. It's a f-ing drawing, it's not real..
    This just tells me the people who made these laws are really in need of some psychotherapie if they think these drawings should be forbidden.. What's next, put people in jail just for what they are thinking?

  2. Re: Moral Imperialism by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is there really someone so stupid that they cannot tell the difference between a cartoon drawing and a real child?

    There appears to be an entire united kingdom whose legal system is populated with such people.

    Just FYI, the rule against illegal cartoons exists in the USA too. The Supreme Court struck down attempts to use CP laws in this way as being obvious nonsense, so Congress just went ahead and amended the law to make it explicitly illegal as opposed to implicitly illegal.

    Unfortunately a lot of crap like this ends up being brought into otherwise sane legal systems thanks to pressure from the USA to "upgrade" national laws to meet the "latest standards". Japan has been pressured for years to tighten its CP laws, being publicly named and shamed etc - the primary justification for not doing so was fear of false positives. Like this one. And like the notorious cases where two teenagers can legally have sex but not photograph themselves doing it.

    Fact is, politicians love being able to say they made the law tougher on paedophiles. It's a sure popularity winner. So it's inevitable you end up with idiocy like this.

  3. Re:Moral Imperialism by monochromefx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He should pay restitution to the victims, except that there are none. In the US, the Supreme Court overturned a similar, Clinton era, law on the basis that there are no proven victims.

  4. Re:Thought policing by Slick_W1lly · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Indeed.

    So where do I go to file a lawsuit against all them old mansions for 'displaying child porn' with the cherub stonework in full display.
    Children abound.. some of them with their dangly bits out... 0_o

    http://carvingswithstories.blo...

    Looks like a sex act t'me guv.

  5. Re:Good riddance. by Cederic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Actually Government ministers have stated a desire to extend the law to written materials.

    Since the laws on images include scenes of bondage, the moment they extend it to written materials I'm bringing around 400,000 private prosecutions against women that own 50 Shades.

  6. Re:pics? by wrook · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I was living in Japan, a friend asked me to send him a copy of Inu Yasha volume 1 so he could give it to his daughter. She wanted to use it to help study the Japanese language. It was her favorite anime and she wanted to read the manga. I was about to send it to him and noticed that there is a scene with Kagome (the heroine) bathing naked. She's meant to be 14. Not wanting to get my friend involved in importing child porn, I ended up not sending it. It is a shame that a 14 year old girl can't read her favorite manga because there is a picture of a naked 14 year old girl in it. Laws are laws, though...

  7. Re:Distasteful stuff, but should not be illegal by Dan1701 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The LA Times link above briefly mentions a few rather interesting and salient points about known paedophiles:

    Firstly, compared to their peer group, they are on average an inch shorter, their IQ is about 10 points lower and a much greater proportion than is normal are left handed.

    Secondly, compared to their peers or even other prisoners, they have a lot less white matter in their brains.

    Thirdly, paedophillia does not appear to be learned behaviour; being the victim of a paedophile does not predispose that person to becoming one.

    These apparently point to paedophillia being partly caused by a developmental disorder, one which strikes fairly early in life, even before birth. As such, we ought really to be looking for whatever environmental toxin is causing this problem, with a view to removing it. My guess would be an almost-harmless virus, or perhaps a heavy metal of some sort. It would be interesting to know if paedophillia is linked to lead in the environment, as is more general forms of criminality (which are again linked to disrupted brain development).

    The final point is a not-so-obvious one. What we need to know is if pornography acts to incite acts of paedophillia, or acts to satiate the desire to perform such acts. The easiest way to tell might be to compare cultures where normal pornography is easy to get, to those where it is very difficult to get, and see if the rates of sexual attacks and deviant acts vary between the cultures. Does anyone know if such a study has been done?

  8. Pedophilia is not ridicilously common by aepervius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Ephobephilia, exclusive or not , is ridicilously common (10 to 20% prevalence depending on the study). Pedophilia IIRC barely scratch the 0.2 to 0.5%. What is the difference ? Secondary sexual characteristic. See in some country people have been flagging teh attraction to underage male & female NO MATTER THE AGE as pedophilia. But the reality is that pedophilia has a clear definition is the attraction to a child which does not display secondary sexual characteristic. Ephebophiliac on the other hand are attracted to young postpubescent teennager which display such sexual characteristic (for example young 14 year old female girl with breast) but are not at all itnerrested into prepubere children , like a 5 year old.

    The problem is that in some country like the USA people are mistaking one for the other. They accuse often ephebophiliac as being pedophiliac. They are not the same category, they ephebophiliac,e xclusive or not, are not even recognized as a pathology, only true pedophiliac are.

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