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UN Climate Change Panel: It's Happening, and It's Almost Entirely Man's Fault
iONiUM writes The UN released a new climate change report which concludes that it is indeed happening, and it's almost entirely man's fault. From the article: "The IPCC was set up in 1988 to assess global warming and its impacts. The report released Sunday caps its latest assessment, a mega-review of 30,000 climate change studies that establishes with 95-percent certainty that nearly all warming seen since the 1950s is man-made." However, the report isn't entirely dire. It goes on to say: "To get a good chance of staying below 2C, the report's scenarios show that world emissions would have to fall by between 40 and 70 percent by 2050 from current levels and to 'near zero or below in 2100.'" Below zero of course means mining existing CO2 out of the atmopshere somehow.
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"mining existing CO2 out of the atmosphere somehow"
Such as extracting it from the atmosphere, or taking it directly from power plant emissions, compressing it into a liquid, and using it for enhanced oil recovery of otherwise unproductive oilfields. The CO2 displaces the oil, and also greatly increases its viscosity.
I'm pretty sure the reason they're denying that Burning Things Causes Heat
I really hope that's not your understanding of the theory of global warming, because it's so completely wrong only someone who uses words like 'haters' would think it........
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Seriously, this group continues to scream that America is the biggest determent to changing this. They grip about the amount that America produces per capita.
Yet, America as a whole, produces less than 15% of the CO2. Likewise, our per capita is less than 16.
BUT, what is most important, is the fact that our production and per capita are dropping each and every year for the last 7 years.
How does this compare to other nations? Well, China, who is given a pass by these groups, now account for more than 33% of yearly CO2 production. In addition, their per capita is now above most of Europe's and will beat America's within 3 years.
At this time, most of the west continues to drop their CO2 though Germany's is back on the rise since they shut down their nuke plants and are replacing them with new coal plants. America has shut down massive numbers of coal plants over the last 6 years due to economics, will not be building new coal plants, and is about to shut down many older coal plants due to EPA finally bringing fourth new regs.
BUT, China, India, South Africa, Russia, etc. continue to build massive new coal plants. These will exists for the next 25-50 years. They will NOT be shutdown. And all of them want to follow China's lead in leaving pollution control off, which will lead to massive new mercury/lead/etc emissions.
The neo-cons/tea* types will not be making changes. They will not look at science and admit that man is causing this. I suspect that they are simply lying to themselves, but at the least, it indicates a real lack of intelligence.
HOWEVER, when the liberals acknowledge that there is a problem and then focus not only a relatively small player, but ignore the major emitter and the fact that 3rd world nations are building new plants at a rate that is mind blowing, well, it shows that liberals are just as foolish, if not worse, than the above neo-cons/tea*.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Here's the problem with that:
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Environmental righteousness makes rich people feel good about themselves. But it hurts the world's poor.
I know it's not fashionable to RTFA but the IPCC report does propose actual solutions and costs those solutions (which will have negligible net cost)... they are the well-know solutions of more renewables, nuclear power and carbon sequestration along with a carbon tax.
The problem is that the corporations which have become rich on the current high CO2 emission path control the world's economies and governments so I can safely predict that nothing meaningful will be done and that we are all literally toast.
For more information (and interesting read), Naomi Klein's "This Changes Everything"
http://books.simonandschuster....
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
Since noone (except possibly you) believes that we're going to lose all land within 150km of the coasts in the next 50 years, your argument is, to put it bluntly, stupid.
Predicted sea level rise over the rest of this century (~85 years, not 50) is low enough that the routine level maintenance around New Orleans (a city that basically sits at or below sea level) will easily handle the problem. I'd imagine we could teach the stupider people of the world how to manage building a levee a whole 30cm tall within the frightfully short interval of 85 years, don't you think?
Note: arguing AGW is usually interesting, but some arguments are just plain idiotic....
"I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
1. The lumber Industry was killed by the EPA and their Spotted Owl nonsense.
2. There are more forested acres in the Northwest now than there were in the 1900.
To worship the Invisible Hand means to believe that the free market always comes up with the best solutions for humanity, i.e. that it is a silver bullet rather than a tool which - like any tool - sometimes is suitable and sometimes is not. This is the same way some people answer every problem with "God!" even though God is just something humans make up for their own benefit and which as a concept has sometimes helped humanity (some of the most productive civilisations have been theistic) and sometimes has not.
We do need to promote economically sustainable solutions, yes. But that's not the same as providing solutions "that work in a free market", which has never existed. Many of the big tech developments of C19 (including in the USA) were based on temporary monopoly rights and public investments and guarantees which made remaining private investment worthwhile, for example. Government contributions, at least initially, are as essential to long-term R&D as they always have been. It's up to the voter whether they want to hand control over to profit-makers or to keep things under public control after that - and the most successful countries tend to choose a combination of public companies and well-regulated private industry, i.e. which suit no freshman idealist but which keep the average man/woman in the best possible living conditions.
That's not ignoring the sun. That's taking a careful look at the changes in the sun's output, and deciding that it's not a major factor. If you don't believe so, please find a graph of TSI (total solar irradiance) for the last century, and compare with a graph of global temperature anomaly during the same time.
No, you misunderstand. Increased CO2 results in the Earth building more heat every year. Nature is just responsible for balancing it between ocean and atmosphere. If you make a graph of just the El-Nino years, you see the temperature going up in a consistent trend. The same thing happens for the La-Nina years. It's just that the La-Nina trend line is a bit lower. http://www.bitsofscience.org/w...
The Jurassic period. O2 in atmosphere was 130% modern levels. CO2 was at 1950ppm, 5-7 times modern levels. The temperature was a whole 3 DEGREES C over modern times! Oh noes! The Jurassic DGW, Dinsaurogenic Global Warming, shows that those Dinosaurs with their Airplanes, SUV, Coal Fire Plants and Cars and stuff, you know, those Dinosaurs and their DGW destroyed THE WHOLE PLANET!! With their DGW! Look, who wants 26% atmospheric oxygen? More air to breathe? Who wants that! And who wants more CO2 @1950 ppm, you know, to make all those plants and trees convert that CO2 into a higher O2! Who wants that! And we DON'T want the massive biodiversity of the Jurassic, no, we don't want more plants and animals and trees, no.
Any time period the warmunists want to "prove" thre is AGW the warmunists just cherry pick ranges. And now I give the warmunists what the need on a silver platter - now they have the perfect example - the Dinosaurs and their horrible DGW ( Disnosauric Global Warming ) that destroyed the Jurassic... Wait, no, it didn't, it was the best time for life on earth with 1950 ppm atmospheric CO2!
Debt is Wealth. Ignorance is Strength. Freedom is Slavery. War is Peace. Cold is Warm.
Another Cult of the Church of Climatology propaganda piece with High Priest Al Goreleone's nod of approval.
Here's proof that the IPCC has been uncritically promoting AGW ever since the IPCC was created solely to promote AGW:
IPCC 1990: "... The unequivocal detection of the enhanced greenhouse effect from observations is not likely for a decade or more..."
IPCC 1995: "... Our ability to quantify the human influence on global climate is currently limited because the expected signal is still emerging from the noise of natural variability, and because there are uncertainties in key factors. ..."
See? The IPCC hasn't ever been assessing AGW. Ever since it was created, the IPCC has just been uncritically promoting AGW because that's the entire reason the IPCC exists. Exactly like alien abduction organizations uncritically promoting belief in alien abductions.
http://www.climate4you.com/Sun...
On that graph, the solar irradiance varies from 1363 to 1368 since 1978 so under 1/2 of a percent.
That is indeed not really significant.
The sun activity cycle of 11 years is also very visible but it more in the range of 1/10 of a percent.
And a slight drop since 1997. If you look at RSS, it was essentially flat from 1979 to 1996, then the big 1998 spike happened, then flat since then. It's not really an increasing trend, but a flat/stable with a single big step function that happened in 1998. If it was driven by man, we'd expect to see a relatively consistent, ongoing rise, wouldn't we? Rather than two basically flat/declining periods with one big step function year between...
Oh, you mean like so? http://woodfortrees.org/plot/r.... What does that remind me of?
Oh, yeah, The Escalator - "Global Warming" is nothing but long periods of stagnant temperatures with ignorable jumps in between, right?
Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
If you want to accuse the HadCRUT team of fudging the numbers, hence your putting "adjustments" in scare quotes, kindly provide evidence.
Your choice of loolking at tropical temperatures and excluding polars is utterly disingenuous.