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Windows 8 and 8.1 Pass 15% Market Share, Windows XP Drops Below 20% Mark

An anonymous reader writes Everyone is well-aware by now that Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 have not seen the impressive adoption rate of their predecessor. Yet the duo had a particularly good run last month, finally passing 15 percent market share together. Together, they owned 16.80 percent of the market at the end of October, up from 12.26 percent at the end of September. Windows XP meanwhile dropped a whopping 6.69 points to 17.18 percent. The biggest catalyst for these changes was most likely back to school sales in September, which are better reflected in the data after students use their new machines for a full month.

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  1. Time To Change That Windows Icon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Come on, it's 2014, and slashdot is still using that broken windows avatar for Windows stories.
    Not only it that "joke" not funny anymore, it's not even true. Windows might not be great, but its hardly broken like in the days of 95 or 98.

    It is long past time you grow up and use the correct logo.

    1. Re: Time To Change That Windows Icon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not supposed to be funny. Windows 8 is broken, and consumers have been very vocal about that.

    2. Re:Time To Change That Windows Icon by ganjadude · · Score: 5, Funny

      bring back borg gates

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    3. Re: Time To Change That Windows Icon by duck_rifted · · Score: 5, Informative

      Windows 8.1 sends my every search query to Microsoft if I don't block them by IP at the DNS, router, and hosts file levels. It regularly disables my wireless card so that it can reset it and verify my connection by reestablishing the link with Microsoft's privacy-invading servers. Windows 8.1 has a kind of crash I've never seen in any Windows version until this one: memory management. As in, with Windows 8.1 Microsoft has actually failed to correctly produce a functioning, reliable core operating system component.

      I rarely talk bad about Windows 8 or Windows 8.1 because it's nigh on impossible to lament its failures without people popping out of the woodwork to detract from conversation. I bet this post will be marked "troll", but I'm not pretending, I'm not trying to elicit a negative emotional response, I don't want to start an argument, and I'm not just bashing Microsoft. MS has done many great things as well, since Windows 8 was released. Accessibility to assistance in learning Windows programming is better than ever before, as one example, and their support and development communities have grown in quality by leaps and bounds.

      Now let's mention the one and only discussion we've seen about Windows 10 having a keylogger embedded in it while overlooking that random forum posters have said that it's because the OS is in beta but Microsoft has never confirmed that the keylogger would be removed.

      Windows 7 is still the best operating system for consumers. Linux suffers from inaccessibility to software, though steps are being taken to correct that now. Apple OS represents a culture and not a technical solution. Windows still reigns as king, but Windows 8 and onward thus far remain to potentially dethrone it.

    4. Re: Time To Change That Windows Icon by vux984 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Windows 8.1 sends my every search query to Microsoft if I don't block them by IP at the DNS, router, and hosts file levels.

      Gosh...if you search for something, and it looks on the web, it gets sent to the web search engine. Those bastards.

      Oh wait... well, suppose you don't WANT it to search the web, just the local computer? And Microsoft forces every search to go the web? Those bastards!

      Oh wait... you can turn that 'feature' off? Let me guess -- its a registry hack or some obscure command line thing right? Its actually simpler to block them at the DNS, router, and hosts level... Those bastards.

      Oh wait... its a simple gui accessible option in search. The section is called "Use Bing to search online" and the option is called "Get search suggestions and web results from Bing", and its a simple on or off.

      Well... other operating systems don't pull this shit... uhoh... OSX Spotlight has this option too? And Ubuntu does too?

      Overreact much? Did you even think to look whether you could simply turn it off before you ran to your firewall configuration in your router?

    5. Re: Time To Change That Windows Icon by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Gnome3 is almost as bad as Win8!

      Sorry, best I can do.

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    6. Re: Time To Change That Windows Icon by 0123456 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Honestly, I sometimes think the Gnome team must have paid Microsoft to release Window 8, just so they could point at a UI that's worse than theirs.

  2. Windows 7 by uolamer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    FTA: "These gains did not come at the expense of Windows 7, which still managed to grow 0.34 points to 53.05 percent."

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    1. Re:Windows 7 by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm curious - do you use a touch-screen system? Because obviously the OS is designed primarily for that form factor. I'd imagine it would be a pretty good experience there. If not, congratulations... you're a very tolerant person who can adapt well to less-than-optimal UI experiences.

      A few of the annoyances, since you asked: Unnecessarily hidden-by-default UI is very sensible on small or touch form factors, but unfortunately, utterly retarded on giant screens with plenty of real estate and using a mouse and keyboard, which represents about 99% of the market (I'd guess). How about the idiocy of putting popup menus in the corners of the screen - right in the place where your mouse happens to land to close a window? Full screen metro apps that can't be resized? On a 27" high-resolution monitor... seriously? The start button was just a convenient focus for consumer annoyance, but yeah, normal people actually still use that button, even if the cool kids don't. How brilliant was it for them to completely remove a convenient, functional, and well-known design element that people have literally been using for a good portion of their entire lives? No, Windows 8 was a mountain of fail from a design and usability standpoint. There's absolutely no getting around this.

      Yes, you can get used to just about anything if you use it long enough, of course. It's not like Windows 8 is unusable, but frankly, it's just more annoying to use (and uglier) than Windows 7, and as such, why the heck would I "upgrade"? There are obviously a lot of folks who feel the same way too. There are some nice new features, but none of them are really compelling enough to get past the annoyances.

      Windows 10 looks to fix just about all the major complaints people currently have with 8 (except for the ugly visual theme). Really, they should have fixed all this stuff with Windows 8 - they had to have gotten a crapload of early feedback that users were not happy with it, but they arrogantly decided that they knew better, I guess. Microsoft is looking a lot more humble these days, and that's a good thing for users.

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    2. Re:Windows 7 by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      People who think before they purchase the next new thing? People who are not so tied to others opinions that they still use stuff that works? Like their legs and brains. People who recognize not all change is for the better.

      People smarter than you.

      You forgot one:

      People who tried Windows 8, and discovered that is indeed a steaming pile of pig shit.

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  3. Re:Wondering about those numbers. by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's interesting that while 8.1 is around 10%-ish, 8 is still about 5%. Considering 8.1 is a free update for registered copies of 8, how many of the un-updated copies of 8 are pirated versions?

    What would be the point of pirating Windows 8?

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  4. I like it. feature of the ghetto. by swschrad · · Score: 3, Informative

    and I swore a lot less at Win98 than I did at 8.0. Win8.1 is useable, but still bites at your fingers now and again.

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  5. Re:Wondering about those numbers. by Que_Ball · · Score: 4, Interesting

    8.1 is not an automatic update.  It requires launching the store, accepting the update and waiting for the lengthy download and install process to finish.  I have seen plenty of Windows 8 PC's that nobody bothered to upgrade.  Not a single person I have talked to still running 8.0 was even aware of the upgrade.  It's not like they made a conscious choice to stick with 8.0, they simply didn't bother to even find out.  Microsoft would have to make a greater effort to force them to upgrade through automatic update and continuous prompts that keep requesting permission to download and upgrade when they boot up to get this to change.

    That's pretty much the one and only reason why most of these users have not upgraded on their own.  95% of those windows 8.0 users are simply not clued in to the fact an upgrade should be done.  4% likely had problems getting the upgrade to install or download so just stick with 8.0 rather than troubleshoot the issue.  Lets peg 1% or less are those choosing to stick with 8.0 (good enough for them, corporate standard, too much trouble, not enough bandwidth to download, etc etc)

  6. Home vs Corporate by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Based on past experience, most of those Windows 8 and 8.1 purchases are home and student based. Businesses are either exercising their Windows 8 downgrade rights and sticking with Windows 7 Pro, or holding out for a true successor, possibly being Windows 10.

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  7. No mistake by sjbe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I thought linux is like 20%. One percent is sort of like "other" in my book.

    Linux's market share in desktop PCs is pretty much a rounding error. Always has been and that isn't likely to change soon. You'll find plenty of linux in mobile and servers but not in desktop or laptop PCs.

    1. Re:No mistake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Its worse than that, Gnome3/Unity/etc are actively pushing users either back to Windows or to Macs with their terrible designs.

  8. Mac won the desktop Unix battle by perpenso · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Apple OS represents a culture and not a technical solution.

    The popularity of MacBooks at Linux and Unix conferences indicate you are wrong. Mac won the desktop Unix battle. Consumer friendly GUI on top, with a lot of off-the-shelf commercial support. BSD Unix underneath, most FOSS applications run just fine on Mac OS X. Very few apps are Linux specific.

    Personally most *nix things that I need to do can be accomplished on a Mac quite nicely. I mainly use Linux for embedded devices and headless servers sitting in the closet. I have a dual-boot PC with Windows for gaming but I rarely boot into Linux.

    1. Re:Mac won the desktop Unix battle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Mac didn't win the "desktop Unix" battle. It won the non-Windows desktop manager battle. It's not really a Unix desktop, it just sits on top of a Unix subsystem, much like how Android sits on top of Linux. The only difference is that it more of the userland apps, which are rarely ever used by anyone who isn't a developer. But it doesn't adhere to a Unix philosophy at the high level, so it's not a proper Unix desktop. Try running Unix apps, and it has to start a proper Unix desktop to do so.

  9. Re: What would be more interesting would be by kenh · · Score: 3, Informative

    HP is offering an 11" windows 8 notebook w/ 2 meg RAM and 32 Gig SSD for $199. Oh, and it comes with 12 months of Office 365 AND 12 months of 1 TB OneDrive cloud storage... And it can run any any Windows application... The appeal of the Chromebook is what, exactly?

    For $50 more, HP will sell you a similar laptop with a 13" touch screen and a slightly larger form-factor.

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  10. Re: What would be more interesting would be by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The appeal of the Chromebook is what, exactly?

    It doesn't run Window 8.

  11. XP is better by Lehk228 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i would rather deal with unsupported XP with viruses than the steaming dog turd called windows 8. it was the most infuriating UI I have ever had the displeasure of using, and I lived through the rise and fall of macromedia flash websites

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  12. Not sure where those numbers come from by jsndgrss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I would posit that new sales (where the consumer doesn't have a choice) is responsible for the Win8 numbers rising. From the feedback I get from my friends and acquaintances it doesn't seem to be from consumers making a "choice" that they want Win8. And I really have to question XP dropping below 20%, at least in a business environment. I generally see about 50/50 between Win7 and XP among our customers and the businesses we come in contact with. And everywhere I go XP still appears to be the dominant OS behind retailer's POS systems. We have upgraded a fair number of our customers to Win7 Pro (as many as we could convince) but there is still more than 20% of them on XP. Not sure who "venturebeat" is, but look around, the numbers just don't seem quite accurate.

  13. Re:how many sales are forced? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 3, Funny

    Little squares. That's the future of computing.

    Now that's a pretty dystopian world. Worse than Blade Runner.

    If you prefer little squares with rounded corners, you can buy a Mac.