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Joey Hess Resigns From Debian

An anonymous reader writes: Long-time Debian developer Joey Hess has posted a resignation letter to the Debian mailing list. Hess was a big part of the development of the Debian installer, debhelper, Alien, and other systems. He says, "It's become abundantly clear that this is no longer the project I originally joined in 1996. We've made some good things, and I wish everyone well, but I'm out. ... If I have one regret from my 18 years in Debian, it's that when the Debian constitution was originally proposed, despite seeing it as dubious, I neglected to speak out against it. It's clear to me now that it's a toxic document, that has slowly but surely led Debian in very unhealthy directions."

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  1. Re:DebianNoob by hairyfeet · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    So in other words the massive egos are butthurt that in a FOSS environment the USERS get a say in things?

    Frankly its asses like this that will end up making a Debian fork successful, because its classic "We know what is good for you, you filthy peasant" top down management bullshit that treats the users as ignorant children. As one poster on a previous thread put it "Linux is becoming the shit I left Windows to get away from". Its attitudes like his that simply prove that poster correct.

    Ironically the power seems to have shifted to Windows users this round, as by exercising the power of the wallet and refusing to take Windows 8 MSFT quietly showed Steve "we'll ignore the users to make bad apple clones at higher prices with less features" Balmer the door and with Windows 10 is giving the users what they asked for with Win 8, a Windows 7 with more speed and support for the latest tech. Compare this to the Linux side where Red Hat is basically pulling a coup and taking over the whole show, with many on the Debian board being ex RH and Ubuntu employees, posters are being banned, threads erased, and Poettering is trying to compare opposition to systemd with trolling and answering legitimate fears with insults and attacks.

    Considering that Red Hat gets the majority of its money from the US gov I'd say the fact that those in charge are trying to derail conversations by using emotional trigger words like "toxic" and calling names of those that dissent, as well as all the burying and erasing of conversations should throw up a HUGE red flag and makes me wonder if having systemd tied into more and more as a huge single point of failure isn't by design. If RH truly thinks their way is better let it sink or swim on the merits, not because all dissent was crushed.

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