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How Baidu Tracked the Largest Seasonal Migration of People On Earth
KentuckyFC writes During the Chinese New Year earlier this year, some 3.6 billion people traveled across China making it the largest seasonal migration on Earth. These kinds of mass movements have always been hard to study in detail. But the Chinese web services company Baidu has managed it using a mapping app that tracked the location of 200 million smartphone users during the New Year period. The latest analysis of this data shows just how vast this mass migration is. For example, over 2 million people left the Guandong province of China and returned just a few days later--that's equivalent to the entire population of Chicago upping sticks. The work shows how easy it is to track the movement of large numbers of people with current technology--assuming they are willing to allow their data to be used in this way.
The work shows how easy it is to track the movement of large numbers of people with current technology--assuming they are willing to allow their data to be used in this way.
Right..."willing"...let's go with that.
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The work shows how easy it is to track the movement of large numbers of people with current technology--assuming they are willing to allow their data to be used in this way.
And the ones who aren't? Well, we'll track them, too! One way or another.
isn't that more than 1/2 of the world's population???
Google says that the entire population of China is 1.357 billion people. Did they all and another 2.243 billion tourists migrate across China?
From the Cornell page for the paper:
Comments: Rejected by Science after in-depth review.
As others have said, 3.6bn people can't be travelling. I guess they must be counting individual, substantial journeys, but they don't say, which is a bit rubbish. I noticed that this number was unsourced, which also seemed a bit rubbish.
How did triple the population of China migrate across China?
World population is about 7.1 Billion (give or take a few). How did HALF THE WORLD'S POPULATION travel across China around a small time period. I feel like they may need to check a few number and make a move a few decimals.
Given that 3.6 billion is almost three times the population of China I'm guessing they are using somewhat dodgy statistics either that or they are counting each journey made by the same person and that person makes multiple journeys.
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"assuming they are willing"
Is this a subtle attempt at comedy, a stunning level of naivety, or yet another Slashdot editors mistake?
We are talking about CHINA here, in what way, shape or form does a Chinese citizen have any say whatsoever in whether they are tracked and monitored?
How does the "willingness" of a Chinese citizen have any bearing on whether they are tracked or not?
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As others have said, 3.6bn people can't be travelling. I guess they must be counting individual, substantial journeys, but they don't say, which is a bit rubbish. I noticed that this number was unsourced, which also seemed a bit rubbish.
I was wondering how the Chinese were hiding all those billions of extra people.
"assuming they are willing to allow their data to be used in this way" lol
There's only 1.357 billion Chinese, so did all of them move, and another 2.243 billion come there from outside of China, to travel across China? The article really doesn't explain where they're getting the numbers from, & I'm having a hard time believing that HALF of all humans went to Beijing for Chinese New Year. According to the article, Baidu's app was on only 200 million cell phones to be able to do this.
This is patently false to anyone with half a brain.
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I know baidu for being presented here in Brazil as an antivirus, with TV commercials, when actually it really acts as a virus!! Every device here has baidu installed, 1 person may have 1 or 2 cell phones, a tablet and a laptop and there you have the count..
This article says it's 3.6 billion passenger trips. Over a 40-day period, that's a little more believable, but I wonder what is counted as a "passenger trip". Let's say I live in NYC, and I want to travel to Lincoln, Nebraska for the holiday. So, subway ride to the airport, that's a passenger trip. Flight to hub in Chicago, another passenger trip. Flight from Chicago to Omaha, another passenger trip. Then whatever means I use to get from Omaha to Lincoln, another passenger trip. Coming home, I do the same thing all in reverse. That's eight passenger trips for one person for the holiday.
So, you take the 3.6 billion passenger trips, and divide it by 4 or 6 or 8 or whatever you think is the average passenger trip per person. Then divide that over a 40 day period, and account for the difference in population, and maybe you get something like a multiple of the Thanksgiving holiday in the U.S.
I dunno, I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility.
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It's made by the Chinese gov, as if it wouldn't track everything you do. It's worst than google.
If you haven't seen the documentary Last Train Home about the struggles of being a seasonal worker in China and getting home to visit your family once a year, I highly recommend it. For anybody who thought the overcrowded dystopian future feared in the 1970's failed to occur, China is one place where it already did.
Can Slashdot at least try to tone down the retardation?
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This paper has not been peer reviewed. Read with that in mind (peer review is academic currency).
(That said, it doesn't get much more prestigious than Science. It's merely too early to bring this to bear. Perhaps it will eventually get accepted, reviewed, and then published. Only at that point can it be considered good research.)
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The article says: "over 2 million people left the Guandong province of China and returned just a few days later--that's equivalent to the entire population of Chicago upping sticks"
Sounds pretty major, right?
Well, let's see according to Wikipedia, the population of Guangdong province was 105,940,000 in 2012. So approx. 2% of the population traveled out of province for Chinese New Years. 2% doesn't sound that big compared to "the entire population of Chicago" eh? To put it into perspective, the population of California is approx 38 million, and for Thanksgiving long weekend in 2013, "Statewide, 4.46 million will drive to holiday destinations, and 533,000 will go by plane." according to the AAA. That's over 12% of the population traveling. Granted, not *everybody* left the state. If one just counts the ones the flew by plane, 1.4% of California's residents flew somewhere over Thanksgiving. 2% doesn't sound like that much now.
Honestly, after reading the news reports about the super crowded trains during Chinese New Years, I would have expected the number of people traveling out of Guandong to be *much* higher than 2%.
Ref: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...
The entire population of China is only 1.4 billion people.
Somehow someone extrapolated 3.6 billion from observing 200 million smartphones. Sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me given that the entire population of China is less than 1.4 billion to start with.
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