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How YouTube Music Key Will Redefine What We Consider Music

First time accepted submitter Biswa writes YouTube launched its ad-free subscription music service called MusicKey. today. From the TechCrunch article: "YouTube finally unveiled its subscription music service today, and in some ways it’s very much like existing streaming music services, especially since it comes bundled with Google Play Music All Access. But YouTube Music Key also very much not like other streaming music services, because of the ways in which music is (or rather isn’t) defined on YouTube. One of the first questions I had about Google Music Key was how the company would define what kind of content from YouTube gets included: Would a home-shot cover of a Black Keys song with 253 views be as ad-free as the official music video for the original? Or was this a private club, designed for the traditionally defined music industry? Turns out, the nature of what Music Key encompasses is somewhat of a moving target, and the limited beta access that will initially gate entry to the service is in part due to that variability."

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  1. Sweet, wait, huh? by Nyder · · Score: 3

    Not exactly sure what the summary was saying, other then another online music service. I still prefer my music on my computer, or media devices, then streaming.

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    1. Re:Sweet, wait, huh? by mwvdlee · · Score: 3

      I too prefer to own what I buy.

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    2. Re:Sweet, wait, huh? by Charliemopps · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I, as well... and I don't pay for websites. But I do pay for Pandora. But I don't think of it like I'm paying for the music... I think of it as Paying for what Pandora does, which is sort and find music related to my tastes. I've been introduced to artists I'd have no other way of finding through Pandora. Sometimes it's very, very, wrong... but other times I'm really amazed that I missed an artist for years.

      What's Youtube going to offer? It sounds like just some more youtube... no thanks.

    3. Re:Sweet, wait, huh? by flyneye · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It was a shill for a pay service. If you want to PAY for what is free elsewhere.
      Personally, I wouldn't pay for it. Chances are, the band who wrote it and plays it will never see the money, it goes directly to the owners of the song; the music industry. So, if you pay for music, you are actually encouraging an industry that steals intellectual property, rips off the artist and in most cases discards the artist after their peak of profit dwindles. Artists could do without the industry by simply giving away their music, as promotional, and charging to play live. No industry needed for this scenario. This is the age of the internet, the do-it-yourselfer, the tools are within everyones reach. A band doesn't need an industry, maybe a few friends to help is all, that is needed. Fuck the industry. Don't pay for music, it only encourages the middlemen to pump up the price and rip EVERYONE off, while contributing nothing of any real value. It is a parasite. Don't pay for music.

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    4. Re:Sweet, wait, huh? by lordbeejee · · Score: 2

      It was a shill for a pay service. If you want to PAY for what is free elsewhere. Personally, I wouldn't pay for it. Chances are, the band who wrote it and plays it will never see the money, it goes directly to the owners of the song; the music industry. So, if you pay for music, you are actually encouraging an industry that steals intellectual property, rips off the artist and in most cases discards the artist after their peak of profit dwindles. Artists could do without the industry by simply giving away their music, as promotional, and charging to play live. No industry needed for this scenario. This is the age of the internet, the do-it-yourselfer, the tools are within everyones reach. A band doesn't need an industry, maybe a few friends to help is all, that is needed. Fuck the industry. Don't pay for music, it only encourages the middlemen to pump up the price and rip EVERYONE off, while contributing nothing of any real value. It is a parasite. Don't pay for music.

      Because by not paying the artists will get more money?

    5. Re:Sweet, wait, huh? by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 2

      Probably because Pandora is less expensive. Spotify is much better, which is why I switched, but someone with a very limited income might prefer to spend $5 less on Pandora.

  2. How indeed by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How YouTube Music Key Will Redefine What We Consider Music

    In no way, shape or form.

    However, the actual question is quite more interesting:

    How will YouTube redefine what THEY consider music, now that they get to ask for money for the items included in their new definition?

    Or, in other words, will people be forced to replace the music in their skateboard stunt video with humming and whistling to avoid their video from being paywalled?

    1. Re:How indeed by Thanshin · · Score: 2

      Those fuckers at WMG would claim all rights to the sound of me taking a shit.

      If you find that unfair you clearly don't follow current trends in pop music.

  3. Yay piracy by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I suspect torrenting of music to increase because of this. Can't force the market to pay for what it doesn't think it has to pay for.

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  4. yet another duplication of what's out there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    nothing new, no need for it, just so Google can claim their piece of pie in this industry over what they already had.

    Here's what the pie is. The pie is a market. The pie is cuttable into unlimited slices. Who gets the pie, depends on if they get into the market. Getting into the market guarantees them a slice of the pie. This is why Google entered the market. Because of capitalism, gobbling up as much pie as possible is always desired, even if it's unnecessary and duplicates what's already out there a million times over.

    I have yet to see anyone in most markets for pie innovate. It's a system of cloning each other, selling the same things, doing the same things, simply using their own servers and system, putting their names on it. I'm still waiting for the audio industry to make it to HD, uncompressed high resolution audio for streaming and digital sales, but it will never come because everyone is selling the same product and there apparently is no incentive for them to try to improve or do anything differently.

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  5. Hubris. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It will redefine how what we consider music, eh?

    Seems unlikely. Music will continue to be a cllection of notes and/or beats for some time to come, I think.

    Having read TFA, I'm still not sure what it is except that is picks a playlist for you and google reserve the tight to decice what's on the playlist. I've no idea how it narrows it down to your taste.

    I guess Ad-free is nice. I've actually started listening to streaming music recently rather than local copies so I get ads. It's a bit odd since it's a local station fro a place I used ot live, so I get to hear all about "Bob's trucks off the access road" or "Trujillo's Plumbing Supplies" for stuff near a city several thousand miles from where I live. I don't find them nearly so bothersome as I thought.

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  6. redefined by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

    It's redefining music as in: Thank you for your subscription fee! Here's a cat video. No refunds!

  7. The answer by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

    How YouTube Music Key Will Redefine What We Consider Music

    The answer, of course, is "not at all."

    What a bloody stupid headline.

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  8. Re:Getting charged negative dollars for cable by jitterman · · Score: 2

    To be fair, I should have been clearer. I have Cox Cable in the southeastern US, and the cost for cable Internet access is about $62/month; add TV (with DVR rental) and you're looking at another $150~$200. No thanks. Between free content on Youtube, Hulu, and "broadcast" networks (ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC), and only $8 for Netflix, I'm happy with what I get for the price point. If you like live sports that's really the only big down side.

    Ultimately, it's a total of $70 for all the goodies I can consume on the Internet each month, no data limits, etc. Also, Cox has been surprisingly good as an ISP in general; our bandwidth (DL speeds) were just doubled for zero cost, and in this case it actually WAS noticeable. If the chart that was widely publicized about how ComCast dicked over its subscribers until Netflix ponied up is accurate, Cox's internet division is one of the rare almost-good guys in the USA's ISP world.

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