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Philae's Batteries Have Drained; Comet Lander Sleeps

astroengine (1577233) writes "In the final hours, Philae's science team hurried to squeeze as much science out of the small lander as possible. But the deep sleep was inevitable, Rosetta's lander has slipped into hibernation after running its batteries dry. This may be the end of Philae's short and trailblazing mission on the surface of Comet 67P, but a huge amount of data — including data from a drilling operation that, apparently, was carried out despite concerns that Philae wasn't positioned correctly — was streamed to Rosetta mission control. "Prior to falling silent, the lander was able to transmit all science data gathered during the First Science Sequence," said Stephan Ulamec, Philae Lander Manager. "This machine performed magnificently under tough conditions, and we can be fully proud of the incredible scientific success Philae has delivered.""

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  1. ShirtStorm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think we're all more interested in the shirt drama than any of this science stuff!

    1. Re:ShirtStorm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He's a scientist who can land a robot on a comet 10 years and 500 million kilometers away (well, it's a team effort, but anyway.) His girlfriend made him this shirt for his birthday. He gets to wear his lucky shirt on the day of the landing, capiche? There are still places where doing a good job is more important than looking the part, whatever that means. Need I remind you that the "computer people" didn't/don't look very reputable to business folk either?

    2. Re:ShirtStorm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not that I agree with wearing a shirt like that to work, but it appears a woman tattoo artist made it for him.
      https://twitter.com/ellypriZeMaN

      The tattoo shop has a picture of him in it.
      https://twitter.com/eternalartessex

    3. Re:ShirtStorm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He's a scientist with a doctorate in physics. How shallow do you have to be to make a grown man cry and apologize for wearing a shirt that his girlfriend made for him? You fucking bastards! If you could do half as much science in your politically correct, dress-code compliant uniform as that man, you'd realize how destructive your comments about his appearance are. But you wouldn't spend years of your life working to design science experiments in obscurity. Otherwise you wouldn't put someone down on the day all that work comes to fruition. The people who take offense at that shirt are a disgrace to humanity. Get your priorities in order, embrace diversity and have some decency, for heaven's sake. Don't shit on a someone's work because of the way they dress! You'd think of all people geeks would understand the concept.

    4. Re:ShirtStorm by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 3

      Worse: the guy is probably going to face some flak from his superiors over this. His bosses and coworkers probably didn't think much about his shirt, if they even noticed it: it looks more like tattoo art than "pin up girls" and calling it "mysogenic" as one newspaper did is a bit silly. But now that the press is all over it, they can't let it slide. I don't know what is worse: people looking at everything with a magnifying glass so they can find something to feel offended by, or the people who take the "perennially offended" seriously.

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  2. We may hear from Philae later by AbrasiveCat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While the main battery is nearly depleted and at this point there is not enough solar power striking the solar panels to boot it back up, as the comet approaches the sun the light intensity should go up. We can hope that the existing conditions provide enough power to prevent damage to the landers electronics. Then as the comet approaches the sun and the comet either changes origination to provide more light or just Philae get more intense light it may rise again. That would be grand!

    1. Re:We may hear from Philae later by Zordak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Of course, the comet will also start shooting off monster steam blasts, which could easily blast Philae off at escape velocity. The next Twitter update from Philae could be "I'm Lost in Space!"

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  3. Re:Hey don't worry by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    We will need the cheap Delta-V first.

    Just print it! Geez guy, haven't you been keeping up?

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  4. Re:Who cares about the lander? by Beck_Neard · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I had to google "shirtstorm" to see what you're talking about... holy shit there is no hope left for society

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  5. "Yeah, but fuck science... by Rinikusu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because the scientists wear shirts featuring pin-up girls!"

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    1. Re:"Yeah, but fuck science... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      ...designed by women!

  6. Re:Who cares about the lander? by Kyusaku+Natsume · · Score: 3, Funny

    "No country for young men"

    How much ado about nothing. This ladies will go insane at the hentai floors of the bookstores at Akihabara, and then buy a truckload of boylove manga.

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  7. LA Time article by SternisheFan · · Score: 4, Informative
    From http://www.latimes.com/science...

    Fifty-six hours after landing on the surface of a comet, Philae sent one more round of data about its new home across 310 million miles of space. Then, its power went out.

    "@Rosetta, I'm feeling a bit tired, did you get all my data? I might take a nap..." read a message on the @philae2014 Twitter feed.

    The Rosetta mission's twitter response: "You've done a great job Philae, something no spacecraft has ever done before."

    All the experiments on board the lander had a chance to run and return information back to Earth. Philae's instruments scooped up material from the comet's surface, took its temperature, sent radio waves through its nucleus, and went hunting for hints of organic material. Cameras took the first panoramic images from the surface of a comet.

    It has been a whirlwind ride for the lander, which was dropped onto the surface of the mountain-sized comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko on Wednesday morning. Two harpoons that were designed to tether it to the surface failed to fire, and scientists say the lander made two bounces before becoming stable. The first bounce caused the lander to go one-third of a mile into the air.

    Friday morning, ESA officials expressed concern that the lander would not have enough battery power left to send back any more data from experiments it was conducting on its new, icy home.

    When Philae landed on the comet on Wednesday, it had enough battery power for about 60 hours of work. Scientists initially hoped that it would continue to operate on solar power, but the lander seemed to have settled in a hole on the comet, where it was surrounded by rock-like structures that block the sun.

    Stefan Ulamec, the lander manager from DLR, said the that one of the solar panels on the lander was getting about an hour and 20 minutes of sunlight a day. Two other panels got just 20 to 30 minutes a day, he said.

    At a news conference Friday morning before the last signal was received, Ulamec said it was possible that scientists would not hear from the lander again.

    "We are hoping to get contact again this evening, but it is not secured," he said. "Maybe the battery will be empty before it talks to us."

    Happily, that turned out not to be the case. On Friday evening, ESA reported that all the science experiments had been deployed, and that the lander had been rotated 35 degrees in an attempt to get more sun on one of its larger solar panels.

    There is a chance that as the comet flies closer to the sun, the increase in solar energy will allow ESA to communicate with Philae once again.

    ESA officials say the odds of that happening are small, but with Philae, the little lander that could, anything is possible.

  8. Sad by nmb3000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When you stop and think about the fact that the Rosetta project was launched over ten years ago (something I didn't realize until recently), it's hard not to feel sorry for the scientists and others on the project.

    The statements the ESA is putting out have a positive spin on them (for multiple reasons, I'm sure), but at the end of the day this has got to be a pretty hard blow to the people personally invested in the project. After the effort required just to get it launched and a decade of waiting, it must be hard on them. Wish them the best of luck for a second chance when the comet nears the Sun.

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    1. Re:Sad by steelfood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes and no. On one hand, it wasn't the perfect landing. On the other hand, they waited 10 years for a successful landing. And it happened. That's gotta count for something.

      Remember that ESA probe to Mars that died when it got there? These guys could've waited 10 years to find out that their probe crashed into the comet, or overshot it, or some other calamity befell the lander rendering it inoperative.

      Instead, they did their science, got their data, and have a chance at doing a bit more in the future. That they couldn't do more is unfortunate, but there's a reason they demarcated certain tasks as primary and put enough juice into the thing to complete all of them.

      The probability of abject failure was much higher than the probability of any success, even if imperfect. The fact that this was a partial success, and I would argue it's mostly a success, is worth something.

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    2. Re: Sad by troon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hey, it landed, did its science and lasted longer than the Soviet Venera landers on Venus, which were a resounding success â" lens caps asideâ¦

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  9. Fair-weather power sources are lame... by KonoWatakushi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After all the trouble and expense of sending a probe or lander out into the unknown, it seems a waste not to provide them with an RTG for reliable power. Solar panels have hobbled Mars rovers as well as other spacecraft.

    1. Re:Fair-weather power sources are lame... by itzly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Given a fixed budget, what part of the mission would you have taken out to replace with an RTG ?

    2. Re:Fair-weather power sources are lame... by Yoda222 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You cannot really blame ESA to not take into account Mars rovers solar panel problems. I think it's very difficult to take problems which happens after the launch of a spaceprobe during the design of this probe. Maybe ESA should hire some fortune teller?

    3. Re:Fair-weather power sources are lame... by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Unfortunately we're pretty much out of Pu238. The US just started in 2013 to make it again, but only at 1.5Kg a year. Curiosity used around 4kg of it, so it would take at least 2-4 years to make enough for a single probe. We used to buy decommissioned nukes from Russia and reprocess it, but now a) Putin hates us and b) they too are pretty much out of decommissioned nuclear material to even sell. Maybe by 2017 the USA might have enough to make a single RTG for a deep space mission.

    4. Re:Fair-weather power sources are lame... by itzly · · Score: 3, Informative

      Pioneer 10 used four SNAP-19 radioisotope thermoelectric generators (RTGs). They were positioned on two three-rod trusses, each 3 meters (9.8 ft) in length and 120 degrees apart. This was expected to be a safe distance from the sensitive scientific experiments carried on board. Each of the SNAP-19 generators was 35 pounds, not including the supporting trusses.

      So, it seems you're overlooking some aspects of this issue. Namely the weight of the total generator, not just the plutonium. Also, there may be a requirement to mount the RTGs on a truss to keep them away, which would greatly complicate the design of the lander. And of course, apart from the design, mass there's also the simple cost issue. Solar panels are probably cheaper to obtain and install than plutonium based RTGs

    5. Re:Fair-weather power sources are lame... by itzly · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You must be joking. For the price of a manned mission, we could send 100 robotic probes. Surely, one of those will land correctly. For added science benefit, we could send those probes to 10 different comets.

  10. Re:Who cares about the lander? by ctid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most people can think about more than one thing at a time. So in my head at the moment we have: It's an amazing achievement for the ESA and the team and for humanity at large. AND putting on that shirt was a bit thoughtless if he knew he was going to be on TV. AND if he didn't know he'd be asked to talk on TV and his bosses made him do it, that was a bit stupid on their part. AND if the TV people picked him to be on TV because of his shirt, that was pretty dickish of them.

    See? You can think of more than one thing at a time and none of the other thing detract from the defining achievement of the mission. Unless you're a piss-baby who thinks your world is being ruined by SJWs. Then you can only keep one thing in your head at a time I guess.

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  11. Re:Hey don't worry by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

    a supergun will be the way to go

    I'm sure the idea will be popular in the US. You could fund it with NRA sponsorship.

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  12. Re:ESA's spectacular rash of achieving failures by umghhh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    the statements about dead of the lander are slightly exaggerated. It may still wake up. What was the last time when your project delivered all you started it for, did it on time and possibly (as we do not know it yet) did not reach goals on ambition level? I would like project that I work on be as good as this one. But than I have the biggest evil in the whole universe to fight against: bean counters.