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Jolla Crowdfunds Its First Tablet

SmartAboutThings writes: Jolla is another rising star in the tech world, having recently expanded its smartphone sales into more countries across the globe. Jolla's Sailfish OS is based on the Linux kernel, and considered by many to be a direct successor to Nokia and Intel's MeeGo and the N9 mobile phone. Its software is based on the open-sourced components of MeeGo. Now, the company is ready to start production of its first tablet. They're crowdfunding it, and they blew past their $380,000 goal in about two hours.

The tablet has a 7.9-inch screen with a resolution of 2048 x 1536. It's powered by a 1.8GHz 64-bit quad-core Intel processor, comes with a 32GB of storage, an SD card slot, 2GB of RAM and a 5MP rear camera. Judging by its size, we can see this will rival the iPad Mini the new Nokia N1. While there aren't too many Sailfish-specific apps available, as with the phone, Jolla's tablet will be compatible with Android apps.

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  1. the problem with this by slashmydots · · Score: 2

    The problem with any new product release whether it be from those morons over at AGPTek or alleged professionals over at Samsung is that you have to wait a few weeks for reviews to outline any massive defects. Like a lot of Rockchip tablets (which is the manufacturer behind at least 50 different low end tablets for various brands) had trouble with the DC charging pin snapping off and with the tablet failing to turn on while charging. I don't care what a company's history of reputation is, they can still get screwed over by Chinese part makers lying to them about the quality of one specific part. That or engineering stupidity like for example the bending iphone 6. Because of that, blindly crowdfunding a tablet that isn't even made yet is a VERY bad idea.

    1. Re:the problem with this by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's the only way to get a tablet that is open to run Linux. My Nokia N800 is obsolete and this looks like a viable replacement.

    2. Re:the problem with this by jones_supa · · Score: 2

      Do we know that the Jolla tablet is open? No fancy unlocking or cracking required? Open source drivers?

  2. Very cool! by muckracer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Competition, other ideas and implementations can only be good for everybody!

    Hope to Thor, that everything works out for Jolla and their vision!

  3. Re:$380,000 goal? by queazocotal · · Score: 2

    i would perhaps agree - if it was from a company that had not produced hardware.
    I suspect this is more the case of PR and a case to purchase early at a discount a device that was coming anyway.
    I'm buying one.

  4. Re:OS/2 by queazocotal · · Score: 2

    To a degree.
    A 1% niche of the mobile tablet or phone market is quite large enough for a small company.
    Indeed - at that point - you're not a small company anymore.

  5. $600,000 and counting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ... not bad for a (supposedly) burning platform. Competition is always good and this tablet has good specs, reasonable price, runs an OS that is based on Linux + standard userland and is not made by a company whose main business is mining information about you. I wish good luck to Jolla!

    1. Re:$600,000 and counting... by aliquis · · Score: 2

      On the other hand by now Nokia stock + dividends is up to about the same (or higher?) level than they was at the memo of the burning platform.

  6. Both 16:9 and 4:3 by tepples · · Score: 2

    A 7" LCD is fine for 9:16 or 10:16 display aspect ratios, like the Kindle Fire and Nexus 7. Once you widen the screen to 3:4, which some users appear to prefer, you need to extend it to 8".

  7. Battery capacity by RoccamOccam · · Score: 2

    Interesting that the battery spec isn't on par with the competitors listed on their website. Both the Nexus 9 and the iPad Mini have in excess of 50%-more capacity. I didn't see any numbers on expected battery life.

    On the other hand, the price and multitasking-approach makes it a very attractive alternative, to me.

    1. Re:Battery capacity by topologicalanomaly47 · · Score: 2

      If you can't imagine multitasking on a system with a quad core 64 bit cpu and 2 gb ram it shows just how shitty and filled with useless (but shinny) crap current mobile OS's are.

    2. Re:Battery capacity by cbhacking · · Score: 2

      This makes me wonder how well battery-optimized Sailfish is (and its apps are). I never owned an N900 or N9, or used one for long enough to get a really good feel for the battery life, but even when new, the N800 could not last even the waking hours of a day. That's assuming I used it similar to how I use the smartphone I got a couple years later (which would last well into a second day, and which - unlike the N800 - has a cellular radio chip).

      Anyhow, my point is that most Maemo (N800 OS) apps were really poorly optimized for battery life - not surprisingly, all things considered - and the multitasking model of the OS just compounded the problem unless you were obsessive about closing stuff that you didn't need to have in the background. So, when I hear that a new tablet based on a descendant of Maemo has 2/3 the battery capacity of its competitors, I get concerned. There are mobile OSes that could probably get by with capacity like that, but Maemo was emphatically not one of them. On the other hand, six years is a long time; maybe they've fixed all that now and Sailfish *is* one of the more efficient OSes. If it has true, "desktop-style" multitasking, though, I doubt it.

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    3. Re:Battery capacity by Khyber · · Score: 2

      It shows the general poor state of current software development tools, languages, and capabilities of the programmers themselves.

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  8. What? 64-bit? by Khyber · · Score: 2

    And ONLY 2 GB of RAM? What's the fucking point of including a 64-bit processor?

    It's idiotic design decisions EXACTLY like this *cough Toshiba Satellite L45 cough* that make me stay away from upgrading hardware.

    There's no point to having 64-bit CPU if you don't even give it MINIMUM 4GB RAM. Especially on a QUAD CORE device. Are you trying to memory-starve the damned thing?

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    1. Re:What? 64-bit? by GNious · · Score: 4, Interesting

      From using my 0.5 gig ram Jolla phone, I'll observe that the OS seems a lot more frugal with memory than the couple of Android phones I have laying around somewhere.

      2.0 gig is pretty much the lowest amount they could do with the Android Emulation, but for the native apps, not going to be much of an issue.

      As for the "QUAD CORE" device being 64-bit, then the rumor-mill is saying that they've basically been given an SoC to use - if that's the case, there's no reason to start screaming about idiotic design decisions, since using a more expensive solution would have been, well, idiotic.

    2. Re:What? 64-bit? by RR · · Score: 4, Informative

      And ONLY 2 GB of RAM? What's the fucking point of including a 64-bit processor?

      A couple points that come to mind:

      1. Better performance per clock, due to instruction set simplification and larger working set of registers.
      2. Slightly better security, because of more address space to do ASLR.
      3. Finally enough address space to mmap everything. If your memory usage is dominated by static assets like graphics, this would allow you to use the operating system's virtual memory paging to handle which assets are in RAM at any time.
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  9. Re:Want one! by Flavianoep · · Score: 2

    I would join the crowd funding, but the tablet won't ship to Brazil! :(

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  10. Boo, PowerVR by RR · · Score: 2

    They don't explicitly say, but it looks very much like they're using a Moorefield system, like the Nokia N1. The PowerVR graphics in the Moorefield benchmark well on Android, but it's no good.

    The PowerVR drivers are closed-source, the company is hostile to open source, and even on Android the performance is inconsistent. See page 2 of Ars Technica's review of the Nexus Player. And in Jolla, the device driver is not native to the operating system, but goes through libhybris.

    I refuse to support PowerVR outside of iOS, so I'm going to sit this one out.

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    1. Re:Boo, PowerVR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      > I refuse to support PowerVR outside of iOS, so I'm going to sit this one out.

      Somebody on maemo.org quoted a Jolla employee from IRC as saying, it will be an Intel GPU.

    2. Re:Boo, PowerVR by RR · · Score: 2

      > I refuse to support PowerVR outside of iOS, so I'm going to sit this one out.

      Somebody on maemo.org quoted a Jolla employee from IRC as saying, it will be an Intel GPU.

      Even better, The Register found somebody from Intel to claim that it's an Atom 3700 series device, meaning Bay Trail. Now I'm much more interested in this device, but I'm still inclined to wait until firm confirmation.

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  11. Re:It's all about the processor. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

    On intel it's always better to go 64 bit because of the improved number of registers. Linux is capable of running in 64 bit mode with 32 bit pointers. Best of both workds on low memory systems.

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