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US Gov't Seeks To Keep Megaupload Assets Because Kim Dotcom Is a Fugitive

mrspoonsi writes with this excerpt from Billboard: 'On Tuesday, the U.S. Department of Justice told a Virginia federal judge that Kim Dotcom and cohorts have no business challenging the seizure of an estimated $67 million in assets because the Megaupload founder is evading prosecution. The government brought criminal charges against Dotcom in early 2012, but he's been holed up in New Zealand awaiting word on whether he'll be extradited. The government got antsy and this past July, brought a civil complaint for forfeiture in rem, a maneuver to firmly establish a hold over money from bank accounts around the world, luxury cars, big televisions, watches, artwork and other property allegedly gained by Megaupload in the course of crimes. Dotcom is fighting the seizures by questioning the government's basis for asserting a crime, saying "there is no such crime as secondary criminal copyright infringement," as well as challenging how the seized assets are tied to the charges against Dotcom. But according to the U.S. government, Dotcom doesn't get the pleasure of even making the arguments. In a motion to strike, the government cites the doctrine of fugitive disentitlement, which bars a person from using the resources of the court if that person is aware of prosecution and is evading it.

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  1. Wait what? by jythie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, because he is exercising his rights as a foreign citizen living in another country and going through the legally established international process for determining extradition, he is a 'fugitive' and thus his assets are fair game?

    This strikes me as a blatant misuse fugitive disentitlement which is more intended for situations where someone is on the run and unlocatable or in a hostile country with no extradition treaty. NZ has a treaty and Dotcom (wow I hate that name) is going through the appeals system. That is not really 'evading' since evasion implies extrajudicial methods.... it strikes me more as the JoD wanting to circumvent international law when things do not immediately go their way.

    1. Re:Wait what? by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So, because he is exercising his rights as a foreign citizen living in another country and going through the legally established international process for determining extradition, he is a 'fugitive' and thus his assets are fair game?

      This is theft, plain and simple, just like "civil" asset forfeiture.

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    2. Re: Wait what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I am a legal layman; but that is what struck me. We have an extradition treaty with the Kiwis. Based on our 'enthusiastic' diplomatic style it's probably even the one we wanted.

      To assert that somebody currently in extradition proceedings is a 'fugitive' is either to claim that the terms of extradition of that country are total bullshit, or basically the same as saying that appealing a conviction is a subtype of prison escape attempt.

  2. I think this nails it by MiniMike · · Score: 5, Interesting

    FTFA, Dotcom's lawyer:

    The issue is the government basically is looking to use the fugitive disentitlement doctrine as procedural mechanism to avoid arguing merits of criminal action.

    The case seems to have no merit, they're probably reluctant to bring it to a trial. I think they were probably hoping for a plea in the first place, to avoid a trial and the associated oversight, and didn't think it would go this way or drag out this long.

  3. Business as usual for US justice by bradley13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Google "asset forfeiture" and weep.

    Asset forfeiture is a standard trick in the bag of US justice. They take your assets, then you then have to prove your innocence to get them back. The fact that this goes against the US Constitution, as well as international law? Irrelevant, I mean, what are you gonna do, call the police? When the police are the thieves, that's not very useful...

    The US is a police state pretending to be a democracy. Lot's of people haven't been stepped on yet, so they can continue ignoring this unpleasant reality.

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    1. Re:Business as usual for US justice by DutchUncle · · Score: 5, Informative

      An introduction, for the lazy:

      http://www.newyorker.com/magaz...
      Under civil forfeiture, Americans who haven't been charged with wrongdoing can be stripped of their cash, cars, and even homes.

      http://gothamist.com/2014/01/1...
      How The NYPD's Use Of Civil Forfeiture Robs Innocent New Yorkers
      Any arrest in New York City can trigger a civil forfeiture case if money or property is found on or near a defendant, regardless of the reasons surrounding the arrest or its final disposition.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10...
      “Who takes your money before they prove that you’ve done anything wrong with it?”
      The federal government does.
      Using a law designed to catch drug traffickers, racketeers and terrorists by tracking their cash, the government has gone after run-of-the-mill business owners and wage earners without so much as an allegation that they have committed serious crimes.

  4. Re:Other fugitives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Those are all little fish. Let's go for some important criminals.
        Henry Kissinger: The Trial of Henry Kissinger
        George W. Bush: The Bush Administration’s Liability for 269 War Crimes
        Richard Cheney: CheneyWatch

  5. Short answer ... by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The US has more or less been co-opted to be the enforcers of the copyright cartels, and are willing to bend their (and anybody else's laws) to have a "prosecute at any cost and to hell with the law" mentality.

    Since they've been unable to successfully argue in court that he should be extradited, they're going for the strong arm tactic of property theft.

    They're basically putting the cart before the horse, and saying "he's guilty because we say so, and since he won't come here and confess, we'll just take all his stuff".

    From the sounds of it, they haven't accused him of a crime which actually exists, since there is no statute.

    So everything else is just bullshit, lies, and posturing.

    I can't wait until some foreign court rules that all of some American official's stuff should be siezed because he's been tried in absentia for war crimes.

    Because Americans would scream and go "yarg, we're not under your jurisdiction" despite frequently doing the same thing.

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