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Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina Considering US Presidential Run

McGruber writes: Fired HP CEO and failed Republican Senate candidate Carly Fiorina is "actively exploring a 2016 presidential run." Fiorina has been "talking privately with potential donors, recruiting campaign staffers, courting grass-roots activists in early caucus and primary states, and planning trips to Iowa and New Hampshire starting next week."

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  1. A millionaire who won't pay back her loans by McGruber · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Carly Fiorina still has not paid off the loans her 2010 campaign took out, despite having a net worth of $30 million to $120 million according to campaign paperwork she filed in 2009. From the WP article:

    The organization, Carly for California, still owed vendors nearly $500,000 as of the end of September, according to Federal Election Commission filings. The committee’s outstanding debts included more than $80,000 to strategist Martin Wilson and his former firm; $43,000 owed to D.C. law firm Patton Boggs, where campaign counsel Benjamin Ginsberg worked at the time; $36,000 to fundraiser Renee Croce; $5,000 to press aide Jennifer Kerns; and $7,500 to political director Jeff Corless.

    The Fiorina campaign also owed $30,000 to Joe Shumate, a storied political strategist in California who served as Fiorina’s senior adviser and died one month before Election Day in 2010.

    Fiorina “hasn’t really communicated with anybody in 18 months about how she intends to deal with the campaign debt,” said Wilson, now a vice president at the California Chamber of Commerce. “Hopefully, if she gets more serious about running for another office, she’ll revisit the issue and get some of those bills paid off.”

  2. Um, what? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She was a largely incompetent CEO.

    WTF skills does she thinks she brings to the table as a fscking President?

    Pretty much her entire time at HP was marked with terrible decisions, bad planning, and disastrous outcomes.

    Well, I guess that's no different from Presidents, really.

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    1. Re:Um, what? by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From her perspective, this move makes perfect sense. Megalomaniac fuck-ups never realize that they are the problem. They are not equipped for it.

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    2. Re:Um, what? by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

      She was a largely incompetent CEO. WTF skills does she thinks she brings to the table as a fscking President?

      Ask George W Bush.

      Pretty much her entire time at HP was marked with terrible decisions, bad planning, and disastrous outcomes.

      See previous answer.

    3. Re:Um, what? by mr_mischief · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Marxism on a local, voluntary basis can work pretty well. There are communes and kibbutzes all over. What doesn't work is applying that to a nation state.

  3. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Its all about Rand Paul in 2016

    Rand Paul would break the GOP; possibly the greatest gift the the democrats could ever receive. He is running for the nomination for sure, but he will be one of the first pushed out.

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  4. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the GOP needs to be broken because they are a sick joke right now.

    The democrats are only slightly worse than the GOP as a whole these days

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  5. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So two people that couldn't even win a senate seat during favorable election conditions, a retread candidate, a guy with a toxic last name, a complete idiot who is known for being a punch line to everyone except the extreme right wing, a governor who barely dodges scandals erupting from typical New Jersey politics, and Bobby Jindal.

    Anyone else want in, because I'm not seeing a lot to get fired up about here...

    Yeah, all that vs. Hillary Clinton. We so desperately need a third party or Ross Perot type candidate.

  6. George HW Bush by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd probably consider him the best President we have had in the past 40 years, especially considering the fact that the Iron Curtain fell during his administration and the US had no significant enemies to worry about for almost a decade.

    I think calling the elder Bush the best President we've had in 40 years is more opinion than fact but he certainly was among the most qualified guys we've had in the job. Reagan gets the love from Republicans but I think Bush Sr. was a better president overall. Congressman, Ambassador to the UN, Envoy to China, Director of CIA, and Vice President. Unlike his son he was actually genuinely qualified for the job - at least as much as anyone can be. He was quite good at foreign policy which is about 2/3 of the job description for a president. Unfortunately he was not especially talented at domestic policy and even said publicly that he didn't enjoy it much. He did nothing to combat deficit spending and basically continued policies started under Reagan. When the economy tanked (not really his fault) near the election he was pretty much screwed regarding getting re-elected.

    1. Re:George HW Bush by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He also knew how to stand up to the hawks in his party. After Kuwait was freed, people in his party/administration called for the US to keep marching past the Kuwait border and all the way to Baghdad. Bush Sr refused to do so, rightly seeing that this would be a disaster. Too bad Bush Jr listened to those exact same people and made the mistake his father avoided.

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  7. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by Scottingham · · Score: 3, Insightful

    haha, you think Clinton is extreme left wing? You need to recalibrate, she's moderate right wing if anything!

  8. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    >The democrats are only slightly worse than the GOP as a whole these days

    What? The Democrats are pretty bad, but much better than the degenerate remains of the Republican party, which is nothing but wingnuts now that they've driven all the smart people out of the party with their superstition, reality-denial, and bigotry.

  9. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You appear to have internalized far-right extremism. The extreme left wing is not fond of center-right Democrats like Clinton, and her name is only toxic to wingnuts because hate-radio, fake news, and the wingnut-o-sphere hate her. I'm opposed to political dynasties, but since I do have some critical thinking skills, I'm going to have to call bullshit on your far-right-wing worldview.

  10. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The irony is that, were a candidate to arise that held Ronald Reagan's values, he (or she) would be kicked out of the GOP for not being conservative enough.

    My fondest hope is that the GOP splits in two. One half can be made up of the actual conservatives and the other half can be made up of the nut jobs. This way, the crazy-GOP can fade away to the side-lines and the serious-GOP can actually get stuff done without needing to worry about appeasing the crazy elements of their party.

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  11. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by Deadstick · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For all you Republicans out there, there will NEVER be another Ronald Reagan.

    If there were, they'd denounce him as a liberal for not conforming to their redefined image of him.

    Substitute Jesus for Reagan -- same deal.

  12. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Toxic to whom? Bill Clinton left office in 2000 with astonishingly good approval ratings, despite Gingrich's and Co's endless attempts to destroy him.

    Now Hillary Clinton is no Bill Clinton, but I don't think the Clinton name in general is nearly as toxic as, say, the Bush name (although, in Jeb's defense, I don't think he's the mumbling bumbling alcohol-fried moron his brother is).

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  13. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by LiquidAvatar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ah, the state of American politics. It's like being a starving man who is only presented with moldy leftovers. If you choose well, maybe you'll only be disgusted by your choice... choose poorly and you're left with an uncontrollable shit.

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  14. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ever noticed that most strident, pro-Republican commentators are almost always ACs? I've noticed this in other political comment boards that Republcian commentators are almost always anonymous, as if they're ashamed to associate their real name with the Republican party.

  15. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not even the theocratic bullshit that's the major problem. It's their insane dogma of coddling the rich and skullfucking anybody who works for a living. How can I support a party that uses big government to funnel my tax money into the pockets of dunces and takers in corporate boardrooms that hate 99% of America? I can't and nobody else who's thinking should either. Would anybody who's really concerned about communism crawl into bed with China? Would anybody who's really serious about small government howl for globe-spanning wars at every opportunity? Would anybody who's really grasped Jesus' teaching keep trying to cheat, enslave, disenfranchise, and murder the less fortunate? No, but Republican oligarchs and their useful idiots sure as hell do.

  16. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by TwoEyedJack · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You must have missed the last election. Democrats were shellacked.

  17. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by plopez · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You must have missed the last election. Low turnout, which always favors Republicans, but every minimum wage increase passed, pot legaization passed, person hood amendments failed etc. In other words the liberal agenda made lots of progress. Here's a nice analysis by a GOPer:

    http://blog.chron.com/goplifer...

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  18. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Honestly I fucking hate the term "progressive" in the political sense. Anything you do that works towards changing anything is considered progress, even if its changing it for the worse. Prohibitionists referred to themselves as "progressives" for example. As did the Nazis on a few occasions.

    At the end of the day, a "progressive" is just a self-righteous fucktard label that somebody applies to themselves when they're convinced that their opinions are the only correct ones.

  19. Doing for America by stox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What she did for HP.

    Be afraid, very afraid!

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  20. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by dcw3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Your measure of left and right does not match up with American political norms. Now if your basing it on outside U.S., that's fine, but it doesn't play here.

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  21. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1, Insightful

    H. Clinton's history is a mixed variety of leftisms, from the fascism of her commodity market fraud to the outright communism of "Hillarycare". She is a strident, race-baiting proto-dictator; like Obama, dodging responsibility for her actions at every step. There is good reason to believe she is brain damaged. She is completely unfit for public office at any level.

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  22. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by micahraleigh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does anyone else see the template here?

    GOP nominee [insert name here] is the stupidest person who has ever represented the party.

    Even Maureen Dowd's Republican brother won't vote for him.

    9 out of 10 psychologists think [insert name here] has mental health issues -just by looking at his grammar!

    And these same psychologists made this determination before they even finished their breakfasts!

    Consequential publications (such as Rolling Stone magazine) have taken the unprecedented step of endorsing the Democrat!

    Nothing new under the sun, folks ...

  23. Re:Can Iowa handle a circus that large? by Sique · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder what Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; means then. It is probably about Congress giving priviledges to some religions while reigning into the exercise of others and forcing religion down everyone's throat including that of atheists.

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