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Debian Forked Over Systemd

jaromil writes: The so called "Veteran Unix Admin" collective has announced that the fork of Debian will proceed as a result of the recent systemd controversy. The reasons put forward are not just technical; included is a letter of endorsement by Debian Developer Roger Leigh mentioning that "people rely on Debian for their jobs and businesses, their research and their hobbies. It's not a playground for such radical experimentation." The fork is called "Devuan," pronounced "DevOne." The official website has more information.

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  1. "good luck" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Good luck on maintaining init scripts for every single project that already (and those that surely will) move to systemd!

  2. Re:Unix tool philosopy == Good Thing by walterbyrd · · Score: 0, Troll

    IMO: POSIX == Good Thing. As well.

    Systemd kills POSIX, along with everything else.

  3. Mistaken lyric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Hey, just wanted to let you know that the lyric you quoted is incorrect.

    Thank you for being a friend
    Traveled down the road and back again
    Your heart is true, you're a pal and an in flagrante.

    And if you threw a party
    Invited everyone you knew
    You would see the biggest gift would be from me
    And the card attached would say, thank you for being a friend.

    I have corrected the lyric above. It's a sub rosa reference to the steamy lesbian three-way relationship in this show. Ever wonder what "the biggest gift" is that they reference in the song? Use your imagination.

    Hell, even the show title is a reference to their off-screen kinky sex play.

  4. It won't go anywhere by Randle_Revar · · Score: 1, Troll

    But maybe it'll remove the obstructionist anti-systemd whiners for a while, so Debian can get on with things that matter.

  5. Wrong Distro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    They should fork Ubuntu instead. Packages are more current

  6. Re:A joke? by ruir · · Score: 1, Troll

    You are deluded my friend. People who are not or are into Windows is not because of the price factor, is because not knowing better or hating it. It can be fast as a rocket space, but it has never been reliable and more infected than a nigerian hooker. The fact is people are so tired about Windows that I have had people ask me to install Linux just not to have viruses. I also gave a Mac to dad in the past, this summer gave it an iPAd and he absolutely loves it. I am using OS/X and it is money well spent for peace of life. I am using linux too for about 100 servers, will see if I will go back the freeBSD route. Windows? Office? Microsoft products? never on my life. Never again.

  7. Re:A joke? by smallfries · · Score: 1, Troll

    Just installed windows for the first time in at least ten years. It does not seem to have gotten any better (from xp to 8.1). The machine is only for games so it does not have to do much but get out of the way and let steam run. It has issues.

    Plugging in headphone does not redirect sound, wtf? How can this be. It is beyond belief that applications are bound to the old sound device and do not move until they are restarted.
    These new tile things, so they are apps that were made full-screen at compile time, wtf? So if I want to read a web-page while I'm poking around in control panel then I can't just see both windows.
    It still doesn't seem that stable. Crashed during installation the first time. See it hang hard enough that the desktop can't come back to live and it needs three fingers and a new login to get things working.

    My boxes for work are a mixture of macs and linux machines, I'm honestly kind of shocked that people use windows in a professional environment.

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  8. The Linux malaise by Bent+Spoke · · Score: 1, Troll

    systemd is a solution to a non-problem. It highlights the wagon rut that Linux devs have become stuck in. Namely:

    1) Because the HW vendors ignore it, Linux (still/always) has a problems supporting laptop hardware: accelerated video, wireless, suspend/resume, etc.
    2) Since we can't solve the above we just tinker with other stuff, adding even more breakage to that caused by problem 1).

    Basically, we're painting the deck of the Titanic, as it lists to 30 degrees, while complaining that our "Wet Paint" signs keep sliding off the deck.