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Taxi Medallion Prices Plummet Under Pressure From Uber

HughPickens.com writes Most major American cities have long used a system to limit the number of operating taxicabs, typically a medallion system: Drivers must own or rent a medallion to operate a taxi, and the city issues a fixed number of them. Now Josh Barro reports at the NYT that in major cities throughout the United States, taxi medallion prices are tumbling as taxis face competition from car-service apps like Uber and Lyft. The average price of an individual New York City taxi medallion fell to $872,000 in October, down 17 percent from a peak reached in the spring of 2013, according to an analysis of sales data. "I'm already at peace with the idea that I'm going to go bankrupt," said Larry Ionescu, who owns 98 Chicago taxi medallions. As recently as April, Boston taxi medallions were selling for $700,000. The last sale, in October, was for $561,000. "Right now Uber has a strong presence here in Boston, and that's having a dramatic impact on the taxi industry and the medallion values," says Donna Blythe-Shaw, a spokeswoman for the Boston Taxi Drivers' Association. "We hear that there's a couple of medallion owners that have offered to sell at 425 and nobody's touched them."

The current structure of the American taxi industry began in New York City when "taxi medallions" were introduced in the 1930s. Taxis were extremely popular in the city, and the government realized they needed to make sure drivers weren't psychopaths luring victims into their cars. So, New York City required cabbies to apply for a taxi medallion license. Given the technology available in the 1930s, It was a reasonable solution to the taxi safety problem, and other cities soon followed suit. But their scarcity has made taxi medallions the best investment in America for years. Where they exist, taxi medallions have outperformed even the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index. In Chicago, their value has doubled since 2009. The medallion stakeholders are many and deep pockets run this market. The system in Chicago and elsewhere is dominated by large investors who rely on brokers to sell medallions, specialty banks to finance them and middle men to manage and lease them to drivers who own nothing at all. Together, they're fighting to protect an asset that was worth about $2.4 billion in Chicago last year. "The medallion owners seem to be of the opinion that they are entitled to indefinite appreciation of their asset," says Corey Owens, Uber's head of global public policy.. "The taxi medallion in the U.S. was the best investment you could have made in the last 30 years. Will it go up forever? No. And if they expected that it would, that was their mistake."

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  1. The lesson by killkillkill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't invest in and artificially scarce commodity.

    1. Re:The lesson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm selling mine and buying something safe, like diamonds.

    2. Re:The lesson by fafaforza · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's risk to investing in anything. Maybe the real lesson is don't bet your entire financial life on one investment vehicle (no pun intended).

  2. Why are medallions sold and not leased? by tepples · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why are medallions even sold as an asset, instead of leased from the city government? It just creates a vehicle for private rent-seeking and speculation. Some Slashdot users have tried to answer this in comments to earlier stories about Uber by treating a medallion as a share of the city's curbside "real estate". I can sort of see this, but why isn't it taxed like any other commercial real estate?

    1. Re:Why are medallions sold and not leased? by KillAllNazis · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Why are medallions even sold as an asset, instead of leased from the city government? It just creates a vehicle for private rent-seeking and speculation." Question asked, question answered.

    2. Re:Why are medallions sold and not leased? by PPH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      cities could just stop going after Uber and make them pay a "medallion tax"

      Except then Uber drivers wouldn't be part time, "picking people up whenever they happen to be going that way" type service. They would have to work and earn enough for the medallion mortgage/rental. And as they become ful time drivers, the service will become indestinguishable from a taxi service.

      Better solution: Do away with medallions as a tradable asset and move to a permit system. Have insurance, maintain your car and not have a criminal record and for a fee sufficient only to cover the program cost, you get your permit.

      The medallion system was intended to limit the number of cabs on the road. Before it was put into place, everyone with an old beater could hire out as a taxi service. The roads were jammed and the prices were cutthroat (and some drivers as well). A permit system won't fix this problem directly. But by holding minimum standards up, it can serve to keep some of the low budget/low quality cabs off the road.

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    3. Re:Why are medallions sold and not leased? by gunnnnslinger · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And as they become ful time drivers, the service will become indestinguishable from a taxi service.

      Uber already IS indistinguishable from a taxi service, with the single exception that they don't pick up flags (which makes no difference all but large metro markets). Nearly ALL Uber drivers work 8-12 hour shifts in vehicles they bought (or lease from uber at usury rates, between 1k-2k a month) specifically to drive for Uber.

      Uber has succeeded in remaking the cab market and externalizing all equipment costs and liability to the drivers, all while actually even paying them (unbelievably) less than the chicken-scratch cab drivers already make, and all the while pretending they do something different than charge money for a ride somewhere. Many drivers are making 3-4 dollars an hour after vehicle maintenance, depreciation, taxes, water and snacks for passengers, and Uber's 20% and assorted fees.. The new standard on the 'Pay' on the Uber driver forums is drivers making less than the IRS per-mile exemption rate of 40 something cents a mile. And UberX is actually more expensive (at base rate, non-surge) than every single cab company in my town of 250k.

      I've driven cab (three years now) and for Uber (recently for a month), and I will never drive for Uber again. Aside from the fact that a single poor rating from a drunk moron that I refuse to let bring a sloshing open tallboy in my car can deactivate me, driving for UberX is working for free (and I wasn't even on the hook for a car payment or lease). Most people aren't figuring this out until after they drive for a few months and quit, but by then Uber has lured in a new crop of suckers with spammed craigslist ads promising '45-90k in your spare time'. I hope Uber does replace taxis and become the only show in town, just so I can watch all the fucking Uber evangelists start bitching about how Uber actually became MUCH WORSE (already happening) than the taxi companies they replaced.

      I'm sure I'll get flamed for writing this as a driver, but the simple fact of the matter is that Uber had a chance to make improvements over the current system for drivers and riders, and it colossally blew it by choosing to be absurdly greedy and shady. It temporarily improved service for riders in large medallion based markets, but has shown overall that they don't give a fuck about passengers or drivers, and I guarantee you, I ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE you, in 2-3 years, it will be far worse than what it replaces.

  3. Shall we shed tears by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that a fundamentally corrupt system is taking a little pain? They aren't even close to the woodshed yet.

    There is no reason for medallions to exist any longer. The very easy solution to this is a) require a different class license for hired (hailed or called) car drivers and b) require the use of special plates (many already require a TX- type plate). I'm not even sure a uniform color is really "required" given the presense of the "taxi (un)occupied" roof top display though at this point I think yellow (at least in NYC) is so ingrained it may be a disadvantage to differentiate a hailed car.

    Shockingly, the first two of my requirements already exist in most places. So again, why are we still dealing in the corrupt medallion business?

  4. Re:Why no taxi company's app? by Nemyst · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This. The taxi companies are all focused on the fact Uber and Lyft are working without regulations as if that was the reason for their success. Yes, having lower prices most certainly makes them more attractive, but that's not all of it. Getting a taxi is a terrible experience. If you're lucky, you can hail one, but if you need to call one up... Enjoy waiting for any amount of time between 30 seconds and an hour, the taxi never reaching you, you having no idea where they are, the taxi arriving as a tiny Yaris when you specifically asked for a large car because you have luggage, etc.

    One of the big deals about Uber for me is that their app and infrastructure makes the taxi companies look like pathetic dinosaurs. Calling a lift is easy, you can track their position in real time, if something goes wrong or if they're not responsive you can deal with that, you can pay through the app... It's just a much better user experience. Taxi companies probably never even heard of the term, and they're looking extremely stupid for it.