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Ask Slashdot: Making a 'Wife Friendly' Gaming PC?

shadeshope writes Having just gotten married, I find that for some inexplicable reason my wife doesn't like my huge, noisy, 'ugly' gaming PC being in the living room. I have tried hiding it in a TV cabinet: still too noisy. I have placed it in another room and run HDMI and USB cables, but the propagation delay caused horrible tearing and lag when playing games. Have any other slashdotters encountered this problem? I don't want to buy a console (Steam sales let me game so cheaply), or mess with water cooling. Ideally I would just hide it in the attic, is there some wireless technology that would be fast enough for gaming use? I have become quite attached to 'behemoth.' I have been upgrading him for years and he is the centre of my digital life. I run plex home theatre, media centre, steam, iTunes and air server. Will I have to do my gaming in the spare room? Once I have sorted this small problem going to try and make a case for the efficacy of a projector to replace the television..... it takes up less space, motorized screen could be hidden when not in use, etc.

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  1. Don't fight it by eneville · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your wife just wants to make the house more kiddie friendly. Get a laptop.

    1. Re:Don't fight it by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Listen to him. I did the same thing. It caused conflict and wasted money and grew embarrassingly obsolete the moment I stopped investing my time and money into keeping it up.

      New phase of your life. Time to put the games aside.

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    2. Re:Don't fight it by Pablew+Nopl · · Score: 2, Insightful

      New phase of your life. Time to put the games aside.

      New phase of your life. Time to put the things you like doing aside.

      New phase of your life. Time to realize that it's possible to do more than one thing.

    3. Re:Don't fight it by sabri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      New phase of your life. I think all of married mankind will agree with this:

      Happy wife, happy life.

      Seriously. Keep her happy.

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    4. Re:Don't fight it by sundog61 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is horrible advice. Giving up something you really love doing because the partner doesn't like it sows the seeds of resentment. OP needs to find a technical solution to the noise issue so he can still play and she can get relief from the computer noise.

    5. Re:Don't fight it by Pablew+Nopl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apparently it doesn't work the other way around, though. There seems to be a double standard where people are expected to make all sorts of completely unnecessary sacrifices to appease some control freak partner, but the partner doesn't take into account the other person's feelings, as if their own are any more important.

    6. Re:Don't fight it by bazmonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apparently it doesn't work the other way around, though. There seems to be a double standard where people are expected to make all sorts of completely unnecessary sacrifices to appease some control freak partner, but the partner doesn't take into account the other person's feelings, as if their own are any more important.

      Welcome to reality, my friend. When you find someone who expects sacrifices out of you that you can afford to make, and will sacrifice for you unnecessarily when it matters more to you, marry that person.

    7. Re:Don't fight it by sabri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There seems to be a double standard where people are expected to make all sorts of completely unnecessary sacrifices to appease some control freak partner, but the partner doesn't take into account the other person's feelings, as if their own are any more important.

      This is the type of thing you keep in mind before getting married...

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    8. Re:Don't fight it by Pablew+Nopl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Alternatively, pick an intelligent partner that understands that other people have feelings too.

    9. Re:Don't fight it by westlake · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There seems to be a double standard where people are expected to make all sorts of completely unnecessary sacrifices to appease some control freak partner

      moving the gaming machine to a spare room or the basement is simply a concession to the reality that you are no longer living alone, and that maintaining healthy relationships with your wife and kids counts for something more than the latest and greatest in RPGs and first person shooters.

    10. Re:Don't fight it by Kvasio · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just after getting married it probably the last "major new setting of rules".

      If the PPer want's to stand strong for something that is important in his life, this is the right moment. After all, that's exactly what his spouse is trying to do - kick gaming from her view. The living case of "I'll format him when we get married".
      If he is ok with that - he should listen to the first poster.
      If he's not - he should set some rules / code of conduct with her. For example this may consist of:
      1) week days and annual days (eg. their anniversary) without gaming
      2) things that should be done before around home he could begin gaming
      3) no interrupting him every 2 minutes where there is no major fire
      4) "magic escape word" for both - for emergency, where she REALLY needs him / where he REALLY needs half an hour resetting his brain
      5) ....

    11. Re: Don't fight it by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Absolutely agree... sacrificing part of who you are is not a recipe for enduring success. Idiotic and naive platitudes like "Happy wife, happy life" is why the divorce rate is north of 50%.

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    12. Re:Don't fight it by russotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is horrible advice. Giving up something you really love doing because the partner doesn't like it sows the seeds of resentment. OP needs to find a technical solution to the noise issue so he can still play and she can get relief from the computer noise.

      It's not the noise.

    13. Re:Don't fight it by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Alternatively, pick an intelligent partner that understands that other people have feelings too.

      That's what dogs are for.

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    14. Re:Don't fight it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Gaming is not a hobby, any more than watching TV is a hobby.

    15. Re:Don't fight it by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      New phase of your life. Time to realize you married the wrong girl and RUN LIKE HELL!!! FTFY.

      Seriously I got the same crap from my x, hence why she is an ex. My wonderful wife whom I've had for a year and am insanely happy? All she said was "Don't you think about sticking me on no damned laptop, if you get something decent then so do I!" and that was the end of that, just slapped her a nice AMD quad together and she is happy playing her RPGs across from me playing my shooters...ahhhh, feel that? That is the happiness that can only come from not having a harpy that tries to take your pastimes away. I let her have her photography, jewelry making and RPGs, she lets me have my shooters and playing bass guitar...its wonderful!

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    16. Re:Don't fight it by SirSlud · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The definition of gaming as a hobby is not, "Gaming where ever, whenever you like, however you like."

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    17. Re:Don't fight it by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      moving the gaming machine to a spare room or the basement is simply a concession to the reality that you are no longer living alone, and that maintaining healthy relationships with your wife and kids counts for something more than the latest and greatest in RPGs and first person shooters.

      So many posts here say you should just give up your hobbies, as if her feelings about the matter inherently matter more than your own.

      How is this telling him that he has to "give up his hobbies." This is just saying that he should keep his toys out of the common space, same as (eventually) the kids.

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    18. Re:Don't fight it by Noah+Haders · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe she just wants to be a normal adult with a normal adult living room. Sounds reasonable.

    19. Re:Don't fight it by DuckDodgers · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He didn't necessarily marry the wrong girl. What he did do is fail to communicate with her before they got married. If your partner is not a gamer and you are, and you want a gaming PC to be in the living room for the rest of your life, you have to discuss that with your partner long before you get enter a permanent commitment. Likewise with every other aspect of the relationship - how many kids you plan to have (0 is a valid answer), what percentage of your combined income should go into retirement accounts and savings, what kind of vehicles you will purchase, what sex acts you expect and which ones you are (and more importantly, are not) willing to forego (real life is not porn, not every guy or girl is into oral sex, anal sex, or getting sprayed with... whatever), how often you'll make obligatory visits to the in-laws, what you'll do if one of your parents gets too sick to live alone, how you'll handle any differences between your religions, how you will divide the housework and yard work, etc... etc...

      As a blunt but practical point, every adult woman has anatomy a guy can enjoy. The important parts are really communication, work ethic, and intelligence.

  2. Spare Room by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Alternatively, marry someone who respects your hobbies.

  3. And... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What are you doing "gaming" in the living room? Dude, you are now MARRIED. Turn the spare bedroom into your "man cave". The living room is your wife's domain.

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  4. Instead of moding your PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Find another wife.

  5. WTF ? by vlad30 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have a wife learn to read the signals its not the noisy machine but the fact your spending too much time gaming. Or like a former friend of mine you will have the best gaming machine but No wife or kids and quite likely no real friends

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    1. Re:WTF ? by Pablew+Nopl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You have a wife learn to read the signals

      I wasn't aware that only women play these nonsensical games.

      Rather than that, how about people learn how to speak their actual thoughts without playing stupid games where they have the other person try to guess what they're thinking? So many misunderstandings could be cleared up this way.

  6. Spare room. by YukariHirai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just do your gaming in the spare room. Put a small quiet/silent PC in the living room for media centre stuff if you cannot live without a living room PC.

    Also, I'd have to advise against replacing the TV with a projector. They're hellishly expensive if you get one with decent resolution, require a pitch black room to look any good, effectively prevent rearranging the living room, etc.

  7. Re:Simple by Isquiesque · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I love how this thread is increasingly turning into a gender thing, when in fact this issue could come up with any roommate. Or even in reverse...

    My computer's noise was driving my husband up the wall recently. So after a fair amount of pestering from him I finally armed myself with some canned air and carried the system out to the patio, opened up the case, and found... that it was fairly clean inside. All I really needed to do was clean the air intakes on the *exterior* of the case. It was that simple and took seconds. The noise level dropped considerably. It went from being all we could hear in the living room to running near-silent.

    So clean the outside. If that doesn't work, open 'er up and dust. And then yeah, if that doesn't work, I think this comment above is great. Consider a case with better airflow and/or different fans. I also can't say enough good things about having your OS on a SSD -- far quieter and much quicker. I did that on my latest build and it's fantastic; well worth the trouble of reconfiguring your files.

  8. Re:Propagation delay ??? by kyrsjo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Exactly - what he is seeing is caused by crappy cables forcing retransmits, not propagation delay. The signal speed in a cable is typically higher than 10% of the speed of light, so any extra delay is measured in nanoseconds.

    Anyway, a more silent PC is possible. My old workstation, at work was a quite powerfull i7 (although with a moderate GPU), which often ran at full load for months on end. It was completely silent (being under the table also helped), to the point where an i3 iMac is now annoying me with how loud it is. It was an HP marketed towards the pro marked, and cost something like 1200 $ (without taxes, using my employers good deals) when I ordered it in 2012.

  9. Why did you get married? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1, Insightful

    You should be spending time with your spouse, not ignoring her while just happening to be in the same room. If you're gaming on your PC you might as well be at the bar instead, you're just as committed to the relationship at that point.

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  10. This is a top cause of divorce by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... not the PC itself, but the fact that you still seem to want to live the same life as a married man that you lived as a single man. You said your vows, now show that they mean something. Spend time with your wife. Talk with her about the new lives you are starting together.

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    1. Re:This is a top cause of divorce by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are you married or have you ever been in a long term relationship?

      I have been married for a number of years, thank you much. I have also seen a number of other marriages collapse due to one or both partners trying to continue their pre-married lives after getting married. It doesn't work like that.

      You don't need to spend every single moment with your significant other in order to have a healthy relationship.

      I didn't say that you do. However if someone doesn't make an effort to be available to the other partner the time between the altar and divorce court will likely not be long.

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  11. Say it again and you're liable to get kilt by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you assume someone who wears a kilt (or other masculine skirted garment) hasn't grown a pair, perhaps you need to grow a pair.

  12. propagation delay by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    propagation delay? Really? What country is that other room where you moved the PC to? Or perhaps you had some other problem that you don't really understand and just decided to call it propagation delay.

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  13. Re:No Way Out by rtb61 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Noisy PC, erm yeah right. This is all about "pay more attention to me, Me, ME" and that gaming computer is just the first target.

    So with the claim of a noisy computer the response is either get the significant other gaming or you just might have made a huge mistake. A quieter computer is bound to turn into an ugly computer that doesn't match the other furnishings or the screen is to bright and distracts from viewing the idiot box or you are a child for playing computer games and should just grow up or, well, you get the idea.

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  14. Marriage is 80%/80% by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you expect a marriage to be 50/50, you'll probably be disappointed. Because the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, two people who are equally giving will probably feel that they're doing 80%. I do a lot for my wife, and she does for me. Mostly, we do for us. We want time together, so we make time for that, etc.

    1. Re:Marriage is 80%/80% by _merlin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Mod parent up. If you're always looking to make sure your partner's doing "their 50%" and you're not doing more than "your 50%" you're going to end up bitter very quickly. You don't want to go there.