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Ask Slashdot: Making a 'Wife Friendly' Gaming PC?

shadeshope writes Having just gotten married, I find that for some inexplicable reason my wife doesn't like my huge, noisy, 'ugly' gaming PC being in the living room. I have tried hiding it in a TV cabinet: still too noisy. I have placed it in another room and run HDMI and USB cables, but the propagation delay caused horrible tearing and lag when playing games. Have any other slashdotters encountered this problem? I don't want to buy a console (Steam sales let me game so cheaply), or mess with water cooling. Ideally I would just hide it in the attic, is there some wireless technology that would be fast enough for gaming use? I have become quite attached to 'behemoth.' I have been upgrading him for years and he is the centre of my digital life. I run plex home theatre, media centre, steam, iTunes and air server. Will I have to do my gaming in the spare room? Once I have sorted this small problem going to try and make a case for the efficacy of a projector to replace the television..... it takes up less space, motorized screen could be hidden when not in use, etc.

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  1. Don't fight it by eneville · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Your wife just wants to make the house more kiddie friendly. Get a laptop.

    1. Re:Don't fight it by sabri · · Score: 5, Insightful

      New phase of your life. I think all of married mankind will agree with this:

      Happy wife, happy life.

      Seriously. Keep her happy.

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    2. Re:Don't fight it by sundog61 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is horrible advice. Giving up something you really love doing because the partner doesn't like it sows the seeds of resentment. OP needs to find a technical solution to the noise issue so he can still play and she can get relief from the computer noise.

    3. Re:Don't fight it by Pablew+Nopl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apparently it doesn't work the other way around, though. There seems to be a double standard where people are expected to make all sorts of completely unnecessary sacrifices to appease some control freak partner, but the partner doesn't take into account the other person's feelings, as if their own are any more important.

    4. Re:Don't fight it by bazmonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Apparently it doesn't work the other way around, though. There seems to be a double standard where people are expected to make all sorts of completely unnecessary sacrifices to appease some control freak partner, but the partner doesn't take into account the other person's feelings, as if their own are any more important.

      Welcome to reality, my friend. When you find someone who expects sacrifices out of you that you can afford to make, and will sacrifice for you unnecessarily when it matters more to you, marry that person.

    5. Re:Don't fight it by sabri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There seems to be a double standard where people are expected to make all sorts of completely unnecessary sacrifices to appease some control freak partner, but the partner doesn't take into account the other person's feelings, as if their own are any more important.

      This is the type of thing you keep in mind before getting married...

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    6. Re:Don't fight it by Pablew+Nopl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Alternatively, pick an intelligent partner that understands that other people have feelings too.

    7. Re:Don't fight it by westlake · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There seems to be a double standard where people are expected to make all sorts of completely unnecessary sacrifices to appease some control freak partner

      moving the gaming machine to a spare room or the basement is simply a concession to the reality that you are no longer living alone, and that maintaining healthy relationships with your wife and kids counts for something more than the latest and greatest in RPGs and first person shooters.

    8. Re:Don't fight it by ihtoit · · Score: 4, Funny

      earplugs.

      You're absolutely right. Get the decent expanding foam ones, they block shrill frequencies right out! :D

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    9. Re:Don't fight it by Kvasio · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just after getting married it probably the last "major new setting of rules".

      If the PPer want's to stand strong for something that is important in his life, this is the right moment. After all, that's exactly what his spouse is trying to do - kick gaming from her view. The living case of "I'll format him when we get married".
      If he is ok with that - he should listen to the first poster.
      If he's not - he should set some rules / code of conduct with her. For example this may consist of:
      1) week days and annual days (eg. their anniversary) without gaming
      2) things that should be done before around home he could begin gaming
      3) no interrupting him every 2 minutes where there is no major fire
      4) "magic escape word" for both - for emergency, where she REALLY needs him / where he REALLY needs half an hour resetting his brain
      5) ....

    10. Re: Don't fight it by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Absolutely agree... sacrificing part of who you are is not a recipe for enduring success. Idiotic and naive platitudes like "Happy wife, happy life" is why the divorce rate is north of 50%.

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    11. Re:Don't fight it by russotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is horrible advice. Giving up something you really love doing because the partner doesn't like it sows the seeds of resentment. OP needs to find a technical solution to the noise issue so he can still play and she can get relief from the computer noise.

      It's not the noise.

    12. Re:Don't fight it by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Alternatively, pick an intelligent partner that understands that other people have feelings too.

      That's what dogs are for.

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    13. Re:Don't fight it by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      New phase of your life. Time to realize you married the wrong girl and RUN LIKE HELL!!! FTFY.

      Seriously I got the same crap from my x, hence why she is an ex. My wonderful wife whom I've had for a year and am insanely happy? All she said was "Don't you think about sticking me on no damned laptop, if you get something decent then so do I!" and that was the end of that, just slapped her a nice AMD quad together and she is happy playing her RPGs across from me playing my shooters...ahhhh, feel that? That is the happiness that can only come from not having a harpy that tries to take your pastimes away. I let her have her photography, jewelry making and RPGs, she lets me have my shooters and playing bass guitar...its wonderful!

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    14. Re:Don't fight it by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      moving the gaming machine to a spare room or the basement is simply a concession to the reality that you are no longer living alone, and that maintaining healthy relationships with your wife and kids counts for something more than the latest and greatest in RPGs and first person shooters.

      So many posts here say you should just give up your hobbies, as if her feelings about the matter inherently matter more than your own.

      How is this telling him that he has to "give up his hobbies." This is just saying that he should keep his toys out of the common space, same as (eventually) the kids.

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    15. Re:Don't fight it by DuckDodgers · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He didn't necessarily marry the wrong girl. What he did do is fail to communicate with her before they got married. If your partner is not a gamer and you are, and you want a gaming PC to be in the living room for the rest of your life, you have to discuss that with your partner long before you get enter a permanent commitment. Likewise with every other aspect of the relationship - how many kids you plan to have (0 is a valid answer), what percentage of your combined income should go into retirement accounts and savings, what kind of vehicles you will purchase, what sex acts you expect and which ones you are (and more importantly, are not) willing to forego (real life is not porn, not every guy or girl is into oral sex, anal sex, or getting sprayed with... whatever), how often you'll make obligatory visits to the in-laws, what you'll do if one of your parents gets too sick to live alone, how you'll handle any differences between your religions, how you will divide the housework and yard work, etc... etc...

      As a blunt but practical point, every adult woman has anatomy a guy can enjoy. The important parts are really communication, work ethic, and intelligence.

  2. Simple by darkain · · Score: 4, Informative

    Get a less noisy system. How hard is that to figure out?

    Get a case that has one or two 120mm or larger fans for airflow. They generate much MUCH less noise than 80mm fans and still push enough air to keep the thing chilled.

    Switch CPU/GPU fans to ones that only turn on when needed, and are off while the system is at a cool idle temp.

    Switch your HDD out for an SSD, and use network storage for your bulk storage. Gigabit Ethernet is ~100MB/sec and so is a rotational disk, so you're not gonna see much different in performance here (assuming your network doesn't suck)

    1. Re:Simple by Isquiesque · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I love how this thread is increasingly turning into a gender thing, when in fact this issue could come up with any roommate. Or even in reverse...

      My computer's noise was driving my husband up the wall recently. So after a fair amount of pestering from him I finally armed myself with some canned air and carried the system out to the patio, opened up the case, and found... that it was fairly clean inside. All I really needed to do was clean the air intakes on the *exterior* of the case. It was that simple and took seconds. The noise level dropped considerably. It went from being all we could hear in the living room to running near-silent.

      So clean the outside. If that doesn't work, open 'er up and dust. And then yeah, if that doesn't work, I think this comment above is great. Consider a case with better airflow and/or different fans. I also can't say enough good things about having your OS on a SSD -- far quieter and much quicker. I did that on my latest build and it's fantastic; well worth the trouble of reconfiguring your files.

    2. Re:Simple by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Informative

      Came to say this. If you want a great build, include these:

      An Asus Strix GTX 970
      A Seasonic Platinum 1050w
      A 120mm/140mm CPU cooler, at least a Hyper 212 Evo
      A 4xxx Intel chip
      A SSD
      A case with lots of ventilation so you won't need extra fans. For maximum Wife Acceptance Factor, consider mini-ITX.

      Noise? What noise? If your motherboard is willing to shut off your CPU fan at idle, you'll be at 0db (except for electrical noise). Even during heavy gaming the thing will barely make a whisper.

      Need more help? SPCR has you covered.

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  3. I hope by NEDHead · · Score: 4, Funny

    you have a good prenup

  4. And... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What are you doing "gaming" in the living room? Dude, you are now MARRIED. Turn the spare bedroom into your "man cave". The living room is your wife's domain.

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  5. Propagation delay ??? by fluffy99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have placed it in another room and run HDMI and USB cables, but the propagation delay caused horrible tearing and lag when playing games

    Eh? This sounds more like crappy cables, than anything else. Propagation delay on an extra 10-feet of cables is hardly measurable much less noticeable.

  6. Instead of moding your PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Find another wife.

  7. WTF ? by vlad30 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You have a wife learn to read the signals its not the noisy machine but the fact your spending too much time gaming. Or like a former friend of mine you will have the best gaming machine but No wife or kids and quite likely no real friends

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    1. Re:WTF ? by Pablew+Nopl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You have a wife learn to read the signals

      I wasn't aware that only women play these nonsensical games.

      Rather than that, how about people learn how to speak their actual thoughts without playing stupid games where they have the other person try to guess what they're thinking? So many misunderstandings could be cleared up this way.

    2. Re:WTF ? by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

      If your wife is making more noise than the computer, spending money on computer parts won't solve the noise issue.

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  8. Spare room. by YukariHirai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just do your gaming in the spare room. Put a small quiet/silent PC in the living room for media centre stuff if you cannot live without a living room PC.

    Also, I'd have to advise against replacing the TV with a projector. They're hellishly expensive if you get one with decent resolution, require a pitch black room to look any good, effectively prevent rearranging the living room, etc.

  9. Re:Headphones? by YukariHirai · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, make his wife wear headphones around the house whenever the PC is running. Brilliant idea.

  10. This is a top cause of divorce by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... not the PC itself, but the fact that you still seem to want to live the same life as a married man that you lived as a single man. You said your vows, now show that they mean something. Spend time with your wife. Talk with her about the new lives you are starting together.

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    1. Re:This is a top cause of divorce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Are you married or have you ever been in a long term relationship?
      You don't need to spend every single moment with your significant other in order to have a healthy relationship. In fact, it is usually a good idea to have some individual hobbies. Maybe his wife wants him out of the TV room, so she can watch America's Next Top Model in peace.

  11. Say it again and you're liable to get kilt by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you assume someone who wears a kilt (or other masculine skirted garment) hasn't grown a pair, perhaps you need to grow a pair.

  12. Re:No Way Out by gnupun · · Score: 4, Informative

    Tell her "That's The Way It Is", or get a new machine.

    I don't like noisy PCs either and there a couple of solutions:

    a) Use a low-RPM, huge, CPU fan like Zalman along with a fanless power supply and video card. There should be very little noise from such a PC.

    b) Go all the way and buy a water-cooled PC. No fans, no noise.

    c) Buy an Apple laptop/desktop. These are noiseless except under heavy load.

  13. propagation delay by frovingslosh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    propagation delay? Really? What country is that other room where you moved the PC to? Or perhaps you had some other problem that you don't really understand and just decided to call it propagation delay.

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  14. Marriage is 80%/80% by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you expect a marriage to be 50/50, you'll probably be disappointed. Because the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, two people who are equally giving will probably feel that they're doing 80%. I do a lot for my wife, and she does for me. Mostly, we do for us. We want time together, so we make time for that, etc.

  15. Re:Spare Room by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Look, nobody normal respects gamers, and for very good reason. The best we can hope for is tolerance unless we're prepared to marry a waifu.

    Personally, I found the best solution was to quit my job so I could game while my wife as at work. No muss, no fuss. The only problem comes at times like this weekend, when I played so much Far Cry 4 that I accidentally called my wife Amita.

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  16. Maybe she needs her space by rwa2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Get a less noisy system. How hard is that to figure out?

    Married 15 years. After I had spent the money on quieter fans, it turned out she just didn't like the look of the computer in the living room, with its wires and peripherals and stuff.

    Go the man cave route with an extra room (or even a closet). You get to spend the money on bigger speakers instead of quieter fans. She gets to decorate the living room to her liking, and you get major points for being so accommodating. It will come in handy later when you have kids, so you can lock out all your little ones from the Dangerous Stuff, and it's even more handy later when you can let your bigger kids play in them while you and the Mrs. enjoy some sanity time in the nice living room.

    The moral of the story is: don't be poor.

  17. Re:Stop gaming. by maliqua · · Score: 4, Informative

    Source: Divorced due to Eve-online.

    To be fair that's not 'gaming' eve is essentially a second career but without any of the real life rewards for your efforts.