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Google, National Parks Partner To Let Girls Program White House Xmas Tree Lights

theodp writes The Washington Post reports the White House holiday decor is going digital this year, with dog-bots and crowdsourced tree lights. "Thanks to Google's Made with Code initiative," reports a National Park Foundation press release, "girls across the country will experience the beauty of code by lighting up holiday trees in President's Park, one of America's 401 national parks and home to the White House." Beginning on December 2, explains the press release, girls can head over to Google's madewithcode.com (launched last June by U.S. CTO Megan Smith, then a Google X VP), to code a design for one of the 56 state and territory trees. Girls can select the shape, size, and color of the lights, and animate different patterns using introductory programming language and their designs will appear live on the trees. "Made with Code is a fun and easy way for millions of girls to try introductory code and see Computer Science as a foundation for their futures. We're thrilled that this holiday season families across the country will be able to try their hands at a fun programming project," said former Rep. Susan Molinari, who now heads Google's lobbying and policy office in Washington, DC.

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  1. Girls, girls, girls... by msauve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sexist much?

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    1. Re:Girls, girls, girls... by devoid42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That was my first though, anything that restricts to either sex for a non-anatomical reason is inherently sexist.

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    2. Re:Girls, girls, girls... by JerryLove · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Was my first thought too.

      I can just see having to explain to a 7-year-old-child that heard about the program and doesn't understand why he can't try to be involved that it's because he's a boy. It's not just sexist, it may literally be the first obvious example of sexism that a young child notices.

    3. Re:Girls, girls, girls... by Truekaiser · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is the swedish paradox. The more equal the society the more likely that the sex's flock to 'traditional' roles.
      The only difference seems to be in reaction to this, in sweden they decided to study it and found out, *gasp* human brains between the sexs are pretty much wired differently. Who would of thought of that in a species with sexual dimorphism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

      In the united states how ever, the lack of women in STEM jobs and the lack of men in Nursing is seen not as a result of hard wired biological differences. But some kind of 'oppression' like women bullying men who go into nursing, and some invisible boogeyman called the 'patriarchy' calling women 'bossy' and making them not want to be leaders and such.

    4. Re:Girls, girls, girls... by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sexist much?

      They're worried that boys would know Morse code for "GET STUFFED OBAMA"

    5. Re:Girls, girls, girls... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Barbie showed her drawing to Skipper. "Isn't that a pretty Christmas tree light pattern? The arrows show how it'll go!"

      "Oooooih! That's pretty! I can't wait to see it!" squealed Skipper!

      "Hmmmm," thought Barbie. "Now all I need is one of the boys to program it for me!"
      (3 pages skipped)
      "And programming...done! Switch it on! Oh, here, like this [switches it on]", said the boy.

      "And our national winner of best Christmas tree programmer is Barbie Mattel!" The president grinned and shook her hand. "What an excellent programmer!"

      "I know!" exclamatederionoed Barbie!

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    6. Re:Girls, girls, girls... by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can just see having to explain to a 7-year-old-child that heard about the program and doesn't understand why he can't try to be involved that it's because he's a boy.

      We've already had to have that conversation with our 10 year old son. The Engineering faculty of our local university runs a Raspberry Pi programming course...but only for girls. My wife contacted them to ask about programs for our son. The super enthusiastic airhead who responded suggested that they had lots of programs for boys but really it boils down to a few places in a summer program and even then much of that program is for girls only. My wife got as far as asking them how their blatant sexism was consistent with the Alberta Human Rights act but got a typical email full of PR but empty of content. In the EU such practice would actually be illegal under gender discrimination laws in Alberta it is less clear since they have this get-out clause 'unless there is a justifiable reason'.

      So we had to explain that there were no programs for him because he is a boy which he had a really hard time understanding because he has always been taught that sexism is wrong. Since actions speak louder than words this has undermined the lesson that he had learnt and I've already heard him once tease his older sister that she shouldn't use computers until she has had the 'special lessons for girls'! So as a scheme to eradicate sexism this is an epic way to shoot yourself in the foot. Even simple logic tells you that you cannot eradicate sexism while actually practicing it!

    7. Re:Girls, girls, girls... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Clearly you missed a great opportunity to do the obvious: have him listed as a girl. Don't even bother trying to dress him up as what you imagine a girl would look like. And if they ask, he can say, "Sure, for the purposes of this program, I'm a girl". If they push the issue or kick him out, write a letter to the Chancellor of your University asking that if you have your son bind his genitals like women used to bind their breasts if he can return to the program? Perhaps if you dress him in gaudy makeup and dresses?

      Be sure to forward a copy to your local TV station. The real truth of eradicating sexism is to make a big fuss when sexism occurs. Just quietly writing on /. doesn't do a lot. Making a civil disobedience spectacle? It might not change anything, but it'll teach your son something more valuable than rolling over to some "airhead". It'll show you can participate in a program and gain something even when they actively deny you.

    8. Re: Girls, girls, girls... by Dragonslicer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Aren't the women who become CEOs of large corporations just as big sociopaths as the men? That doesn't really change the system much at all.

  2. But, as the feminists say.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's not sexist if it discriminates against men

    1. Re:But, as the feminists say.. by SecurityGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Fair point, but I don't see it justifying sexism now. I have daughters as well as sons. Do you think it's reasonable to tell the boys that their sister gets to do something cool but they don't because someone entirely unrelated to them or me did something wrong so long ago their father wasn't yet in elementary school when it happened?

      I'm completely for stopping all kinds of discrimination, but when you're taking things from the grandchildren of the people who actually performed the discrimination, you're doing it wrong.

    2. Re:But, as the feminists say.. by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The best way to fight discrimination is to set the example by not discriminating. A few generations ago, kids were segregated by sex in school. Today we'd see that as definitely interfering with their normal social development.

      Ditto this program - admit equal numbers of both sexes/genders, get them to work together and experience the fact that the other sex likes it as well, making it normal that either sex can do it. What are we always telling our kids? "Two wrongs don't make a right." Maybe we should be more consistent in practicing what we preach, or they'll see that discrimination based on sex is still okay.

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  3. Re:Gender discrimination is cool now? by devoid42 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The GP use's two different terms in his subject and body. You do correctly match them up, they may not in fact discriminate in admittance, but the labeling and marketing is sexist.

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  4. Re:Sexist, but not in the way people are thinking. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'd agree that the role assignment you pointed out is sexist too. But the sexism against boys is present, actual exclusion is irrelevant. It's sexism in all the literature and information provided indicates exclusion.

  5. Re:um... by martas · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nah, won't happen. Why do you think they excluded boys from the project?

  6. Re:The White House lawn is a park? by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The public can and does use it. You can too, you just have to be faster than the secret service.

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  7. Re:*sighs* by joelgrimes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd like you to explicitly describe the sexism you are imaging exists in madewithcode, because you guys almost never do any research before opening your defensive little mouths.

    Huh? how is madewithcode NOT sexist? Hit madewithcode.com and then hit all of the top-level links. Lots of pictures of people. Not one guy. MENTORS showcases 5 people, all girls. MAKERS showcases 5 people, all girls. COMMUNITY has one image of 4 people, all girls.

    Maybe you just meant code.org - in which case maybe you're right, but madewithcode is clearly designed for girls and only girls.

  8. Re:Gender discrimination is cool now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have a cousin who wants to go into a particular field, but cannot get into a particular school due to gender-based discrimination. This is not a school that is solely for the opposite gender, they simply turned my cousin away because they already had too many of my cousin's particular gender.

    Now, is this right or is this wrong? No, you do not get to know the gender of my cousin. You must decide whether this is right or wrong without that knowledge. Because if it is wrong in one direction, it is wrong in all directions, and a history of gender discrimination in one direction does not change that fact, no matter how much you might claim that it should.

  9. Re:Sexist, but not in the way people are thinking. by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    not how others here are posting - sexism against boys (which actually isn't the case, as people are pointing out now).

    Excluding a sex from something is sexist by definition.

    How the fuck am I supposed to tell my son that his sister can do cool stuff but he can't because he's a boy?

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