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Celebrated Russian Hacker Now In Exile

An anonymous reader writes: VKontakte is a Russian social network, more popular there than even Facebook. Its founder, Pavel Durov, was a celebrity for his entrepreneurial skills, much like Mark Zuckerberg elsewhere. But as Russia has cracked down on internet freedoms, 30-year-old Durov had to relinquish control of the social network. He eventually fled the country when the government pressured him to release data on Ukrainian protest leaders. He's now a sort of roving hacker, showing up where he's welcome and not staying too long. "Mr. Durov, known for his subversive wit and an all-black wardrobe that evokes Neo from the Matrix movies, is now a little-seen nomad, moving from country to country every few weeks with a small band of computer programmers. One day he is in Paris, another in Singapore." Durov said, "I'm very happy right now without any property anywhere. I consider myself a legal citizen of the world."

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  1. Snowden revenge? by dskoll · · Score: 5, Funny

    With Putin giving the US a black eye by harbouring Edward Snowden, maybe this guy will find sanctuary in the US? :)

    1. Re:Snowden revenge? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe Edward can rent him his house, he won't be using it any time soon.

    2. Re:Snowden revenge? by unixisc · · Score: 2

      Looks like a good use of a J1 visa. Durov for Snowden

    3. Re:Snowden revenge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Unlikely. The US government will find a compliant country to indict him on fake rape charges so he can be held in custody and then get him sent back to Russia.

    4. Re:Snowden revenge? by dskoll · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When all is said and done, the US is still a helluva lot freer than Russia. But I was being facetious; the last place he should go is the USA or we'd see a Snowden - Durov swap in the blink of an eye.

    5. Re:Snowden revenge? by xaotikdesigns · · Score: 2

      I don't know that Russia would agree though. They may want the USA NSA guy more than the Russian Facebook guy.

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    6. Re:Snowden revenge? by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or maybe both of them can go into exile together in a third country. And Julian Assange can go there too. And they'll share an apartment together. It'd make a great sitcom. "Three hacker dissidents exiled from their native countries... now they're all living in one house! See what kind of wacky adventures they get into!"

    7. Re:Snowden revenge? by murdocj · · Score: 3

      I wondered how long it would take someone to hijack this thread into "USA evil". Congratulations.

  2. A Ukrainian joke by mi · · Score: 3, Funny

    One Ukrainian says to another:

    • Hey, whatever you say about the rest of them, I still know one good Russian...
    • Who?!
    • Gérard Depardieu!
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    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
    1. Re:A Ukrainian joke by SLot · · Score: 4, Funny

      A better joke:

      Two Ukranian men are sitting in Odesa, discussing what is going on in Ukraine over a drink.

      Man 1: I stopped speaking Russian.
      Man 2: Why? Afraid the Ukranians will beat you?
      Man 1: No, that Russians will come to protect me.

    2. Re:A Ukrainian joke by unixisc · · Score: 2

      Those countries are now in NATO, which is theoretically supposed to go to war if any of its members are attacked. So if Russian tanks move into Riga, would that mean NATO i.e. the US going to war against Russia? It would be interesting to see if it does. Otherwise, my point - that after the Cold War, NATO should either have been retired, or coopted everyone including Russia - would be proven valid

    3. Re:A Ukrainian joke by SLot · · Score: 5, Funny

      Haha, touche! Half of me wants very much to see my friends in kyiv, dnepropetrovsk & lviv, but the other half says wait a little while longer....

      also: What do Putin, oil and the ruble have in common? They all hit 63 next year. ;)

  3. Re:Commie Critter On The Lam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Run?

    He's in Exile living well. I've thought of going there but plane fare is expensive to Exile and there's this long layover in Timbuktu.

    It's even harder when you are on a Lamb. The TSA won't let you through security on the Lamb and let's not get into bording the plane.

  4. Yeah, easy for you by OverlordQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When Mr. Durov sold his stake in VKontakte last December, there was speculation it was worth a few hundred million dollars. Mr. Durov would not give a specific figure, citing a nondisclosure agreement.
    [...]
    “I’m very happy right now without any property anywhere,” he added. “I consider myself a legal citizen of the world.”

    When your net-worth is 7 figures at a minimum, that's a bit easier to do.

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  5. Re:So you think... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, it is. That one police state is slightly less worse than another doesn't change that both are police states.

  6. Re:Commie Critter On The Lam? by SLot · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://dealbook.nytimes.com/20...

    The Russian Internet giant Mail.ru said on Tuesday that it had bought the remaining stake in Vkontakte, the country’s largest social network, that it did not already own for $1.47 billion.

    Mail.ru is owned by Alisher B. Usmanov.

    From http://qz.com/268023/this-puti... :

    Usmanov is one of Russian president Vladimir Putin’s “oligarchs,” a group of businessmen with close ties to the Kremlin, and last year Putin awarded him Russia’s highest civilian award, the Order for Service to the Fatherland.

    That ought to clear up who is running/owns VKontakte.

  7. Re:Snowden vs Durov by armanox · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And what has Durov done that was traitorous or cowardly?

    And for that matter, Snowden was a patriot, and far from a coward. A coward would have kept his mouth shut.

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    I'm starting to think GNU is the problem with "GNU/Linux" these days.
  8. He sounds like an idiot by eyegone · · Score: 2

    He may consider himself a citizen of the world, but the people with guns do not. I don't see this ending well.

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    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
  9. What's the Kremlin really after, then? by unixisc · · Score: 2

    I'm not getting it, then. If the Kremlin now has its guy owning VKontakte, why would they give a shit about Durov? They wanted data on Ukrainian protest leaders, which they can now get from Mail.ru, so why would they care about him one way or another? The big reason to go after him would be that ostensibly, he has all that data, but if he doesn't and his (now ex) company has it, and would give it, then what's his value to Moscow?

    Also, Ukrainian protest leaders means what? Pro-Russian separatists in the Donbass, right? If that's the case, it should be easy for Moscow to get their details, since they're supporting them. Why would they need a third party - Durov/VKontakte - to spill their guts for them?

    If it means anti-Russian protesters in Ukraine, those guys are morons to put their data w/ a Russian organization, of all things. Doesn't FaceBook support Ukrainian, amongst other languages?

  10. Re:I'd take that kind of Exile by guacamole · · Score: 2

    A rather pointless and misguided post and a list.

    Trotsky was Stalin's own arch-enemy. It's very hard to think of who could possibly play such role to Putin's regime today. Berezovski was the last one, and he was a non-player since the end of 20th century. The other guy, Khodorkovky, the CEO of now dead Yukos, has already served a decade in prison and has been pardoned.

    Litvinenko's killing in London was clearly a very public execution to send a message to major politically involved oligarchs in exile, such as Berezovski, who used to think he owns and runs the Kremlin in the 90s. Durov is a very small fry, and one out of hundreds. I can't imagine that FSB is possibly losing sleep over him.