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Gangnam Style Surpasses YouTube's 32-bit View Counter
First time accepted submitter neoritter writes "The Korean pop star PSY's viral music video "Gangnam Style" has reached the limit of YouTube's view counter. According to YouTube's Google+ account, "We never thought a video would be watched in numbers greater than a 32-bit integer (=2,147,483,647 views), but that was before we met PSY. 'Gangnam Style' has been viewed so many times we had to upgrade to a 64-bit integer (9,223,372,036,854,775,808)!"
I would have figured Rick Astley would have hit that count first!.
Why the hell was it signed?
who cares really?
The numbering should go 1.. 2.. 3.. etc.. thousands.. tens of thousands.. hundreds of thousands.. millions.. too many to give a fuck about.
Months? Why, were views being added exponentially?
Maybe Gangnam would be the one to exceed 2^32 in another 6 months, and maybe another video would. I assume YouTube's viewer base is being constantly increased, and that the "norm" for top viral video views is constantly rising.
Because they were following the Google C++ Style Guide?
"You should not use the unsigned integer types such as uint32_t, unless there is a valid reason such as representing a bit pattern rather than a number, or you need defined overflow modulo 2^N. In particular, do not use unsigned types to say a number will never be negative. Instead, use assertions for this."
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Stupidity, according to google, can now be measured as a 64-bit value.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
If they'd used a 32 bit unsigned integer they might have bought another 6 months or something.
You could say the same of the unix time_t problem, which is a signed 32bit int. If it were unsigned, it'd go to 2106 instead of 2038. Either way, that's not not really the solution. The solution, as youtube has done, is to move to 64bit int.
Personally, I'm amazed at the hit count!
There are 2^31 seconds between 1970-01-01 and 2038-01-19.
If this video was watched once every second since 1970, it'd still have 24 years before it rolled over that counter.
By comparison, it hasn't been available very long. How many views a second is that thing getting? On average, more than 28 hits a second!!!
28 hits/sec may not seem outrageous for a very popular file on a very popular site, but that's averaged since July 2012 until today. That, IMO, is nuts.
Java doesn't have unsigned integers as a primitive type. (Speculative but I'd guess this is what's going on.)
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
I assume they're gonna be calling this the Psy2K bug.
The song and video are a parody of the lifestyle of Koreans in the Gangnam District of Seoul.
Signed 32-bit oughta be.
... for the successful rick-rolling goes to the "informative" mods...
Even though "beats the 64bit integer" was very obvious BS, I still clicked...
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There can be good reasons to use it but there are also a couple of reasons to avoid it.
1: overflows are "hidden", with a signed number overflow will usually* result in a nonsensical (very large negative) number, with an unsigned number overflows will usually bring you back to zero which is much less likely to be noticed
2: the rules for operations (especially comparisions) involving a mixture of signed and unsigned types are seriously counter-intuitive.
* Yes I know the C standard doesn't actually require this and modern versions of gcc are being retarded about it in some cases but for the most part it holds true
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The Korean peninsula continues its campaign-of-inconvenience against American computer networks.
If the values are straight storage, well that's an extra 4 bytes per video for the count. Some quick googling turns up a couple of figures that aren't too terribly old, and which don't actually add up to much:
As of 2008, there were around 83M videos on YouTube, so that's 332 MB for storage for the counters, assuming every video's record were updated and the count data is stored uncompressed. I'd guess double that amount for 2014, but I couldn't find a reliable figure.
Currently, about 4 billion videos are watched per day (!), so allowing for four extra digits on the displayed "watched" count, that would add up to 16 GB of added bandwidth, were every one of those videos to significantly exceed the former 32-bit counter.
Can't... it's unsigned.
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