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UK MP Says ISPs Must Take Responsibility For Movie Leaks, Sony Eyes North Korea

An anonymous reader writes that the recent IP advisor to Prime Minister David Cameron has laid some of the blame for the recent Sony hack at the feet of ISPs. Meanwhile, it's reported that Sony is close to officially blaming North Korea. As the fallout from the Sony hack continues, who is to blame for the leak of movies including Fury, which has been downloaded a million times? According to the UK Prime Minister's former IP advisor, as 'facilitators' web-hosts and ISPs must step up and take some blame. Mike Weatherley MP, the recent IP advisor to Prime Minister David Cameron, has published several piracy reports including one earlier in the year examining the advertising revenue on pirate sites. He believes that companies with no direct connection to the hack or subsequent leaks should shoulder some blame. 'Piracy is a huge international problem. The recent cyber-attack on Sony and subsequent release of films to illegal websites is just one high-profile example of how criminals exploit others' Intellectual Property,' Weatherley writes in an email to TF. 'Unfortunately, the theft of these films – and their subsequent downloads – has been facilitated by web-hosting companies and, ultimately, ISPs who do have to step-up and take some responsibility.' Weatherley doesn't provide detail on precisely why web-hosts and ISPs should take responsibility for the work of malicious hackers (possibly state-sponsored) and all subsequent fall out from attacks. The theory is that 'something' should be done, but precisely what remains elusive."

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  1. I wonder who bought him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How typical of a politician, and ESPECIALLY one in an English-speaking nation, to insist that everyone, everywhere has to shoulder the responsibility for everything that ever goes wrong.

    1. Re:I wonder who bought him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How typical of a politician, and ESPECIALLY one in an English-speaking nation, to insist that everyone, everywhere has to shoulder the responsibility for everything that ever goes wrong.

      Except them.

    2. Re:I wonder who bought him by LordLucless · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How typical of a politician, and ESPECIALLY one in an English-speaking nation, to insist that everyone except him has to shoulder the responsibility for everything that ever goes wrong.

      FTFY

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    3. Re:I wonder who bought him by stealth_finger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Next he'll be saying the Highways Agency need to takes some responsibilities for bank jobs.

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    4. Re:I wonder who bought him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or again typical of a politician - "Something needs to be done", "'This' is something, therefore THIS has to be done" never mind whether 'This' is the best thing to do, or even appropriate.

    5. Re:I wonder who bought him by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One step at a time... I want politicians to be responsible for anything!

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    6. Re:I wonder who bought him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because ISPs are like the roads. Are the companies that have paved the UK roads responsible for the bank job?

    7. Re:I wonder who bought him by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm pretty sure you would find it hard to prosecute some taxi driver just because he drove some murderer around after a murder... or drove someone to a "commonly known drug location"(piratebay). by the analogy the taxi driver should have performed a search on the client for bloody knives or drugs as normal procedure - or that the isp should start banning people for using WOW update or other torrents.

      anyways, it's EU wide attitude that the isp shouldn't be looking at your packets and email. it's criminal to do so, so why would another protocol be ok? you got complaints about some crime you think that happened YOU TAKE IT TO THE FUCKING POLICE and not ask some service provider to bill some random guy.

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  2. So, lets say... by Rick+in+China · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I initiate a hack via social engineering over the telephone. I get ahold of some passwords and information which allows me to access super secret data, and leak it. I suppose the phone company is at fault, also?

    What kind of nonsense. Politicians should not directly talk about IT related issues - but rather, allow some representative who isn't ridiculously uninformed to do so on their behalf, save them lots of face.

    1. Re:So, lets say... by Rick+in+China · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are you implying that phone companies don't have the capability to record or analyze phone calls?

  3. Roads by darkain · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In other news: construction workers building and maintaining city streets and highways are now held responsible for high speed chases.

  4. Trumpeting their ignorance for the world to hear by ArithonUK · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Members of Parliament and their corporate-owned hirelings shouting from the rooftops how technically ignorant and ill-advised they are, yet again. Let's lock up every bus driver, train operator staff and all the directors of London Transport, as every thief, murderer and rapist in the last 100 years used public transport at some point to "facilitate" their illegal activities!! I swear if we filled government with trained monkeys, you'd see an improvement in the way the country was run within days.

  5. Re:Nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes, but who is more evil?

  6. Yes, make it work like the roads, we say! by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You jest, but the police in this country created a massive surveillance network watching our major roads with image recognition cameras. Their favourite excuse for this not-at-all-creepy step? "Denying criminals the use of the roads." Because the criminals always use real licence plates on their getaway cars, you see.

    That operation was started without initial formal debate or authorisation from MPs, but has effectively been condoned since. In fact, it has been developed further, by co-opting cameras installed for other purposes despite explicit promises that this would not be done. Fortunately no innocent people have ever been issued with automated fines for something they didn't actually do, because it would probably cost those people more to fight such tickets in court than just paying up.

    Basically, looking at how the road network is handled, the people running the show here really do seem to think the way forward for our society is universal surveillance and automated mass penalties for minor infringements of laws based on dubious evidence with no cost-effective means of defending yourself if you are wrongfully accused.

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  7. Okay, David Cameron is a Luddite and a moron. by Chas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He doesn't understand how the Internet actually works.

    CAN ISPs use technology and root out more casual piracy? Probably. But this kind of inspection doesn't STOP the piracy, it just makes discovery easier. It ALSO slows down their networks and requires a substantial investment in equipment and software that IN NO WAY contributes to the company's bottom line.

    As such, why should the ISPs be forced to foot the bill? Especially when we get down to brass tacks, they pass it along to the customer and now people are essentially paying to be spied upon.

    Had this been a PHYSICAL theft, he'd be blaming everyone who'd seen the criminal for not making an arrest, without knowing that something had been done in the first place. Every cabby, bus driver, friend or random pedestrian on the street.

    The only way to get RID of piracy is to eliminate the desire to actually consume that media. But that's like trying to outlaw water because it contributes to drowning. If you eliminate the desire to consume said media, you've just cut your own throat.

    As long as there's a desire to consume this content, and there's ANY form of price or availability barrier, there is GOING to be piracy. FLAT OUT. Anyone who doesn't understand this, and that trying to pursue this sort of imbecillic goal of "stamping out piracy" is chasing a fantasy.

    The best that can be done is to increase viewer options until piracy becomes too much of a hassle for the majority. The best bet for that right now are streaming services like iTunes, Amazon, Google Play, and Netflix.

    And we can get there all the faster without mentally stunted individuals like Cameron stirring the pot and injecting idiocy after idiocy into the debate.

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