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Consumer-Grade SSDs Survive Two Petabytes of Writes

crookedvulture writes The SSD Endurance Experiment previously covered on Slashdot has reached another big milestone: two freaking petabytes of writes. That's an astounding total for consumer-grade drives rated to survive no more than a few hundred terabytes. Only two of the initial six subjects made it to 2PB. The Kingston HyperX 3K, Intel 335 Series, and Samsung 840 Series expired on the road to 1PB, while the Corsair Neutron GTX faltered at 1.2PB. The Samsung 840 Pro continues despite logging thousands of reallocated sectors. It has remained completely error-free throughout the experiment, unlike a second HyperX, which has suffered a couple of uncorrectable errors. The second HyperX is mostly intact otherwise, though its built-in compression tech has reduced the 2PB of host writes to just 1.4PB of flash writes. Even accounting for compression, the flash in the second HyperX has proven to be far more robust than in the first. That difference highlights the impact normal manufacturing variances can have on flash wear. It also illustrates why the experiment's sample size is too small to draw definitive conclusions about the durability of specific models. However, the fact that all the drives far exceeded their endurance specifications bodes well for the endurance of consumer-grade SSDs in general.

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  1. HDD endurance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just out of curiosity, how well do traditional HDD fare in comparison?

    1. Re:HDD endurance? by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 4, Informative

      In average desktop use, and even non video media workstation it's rare to see a drive that's written 10TB. Most people will never wear out a SSD due to straight out media wear.

    2. Re:HDD endurance? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just out of curiosity, how well do traditional HDD fare in comparison?

      They cave in big time after around 150 win98 shutdown restarts ..

    3. Re:HDD endurance? by Luckyo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Impossible to test in the same way due to time constraints. Filling the entire hard drive takes a very long time, unlike a much smaller and much faster SSD.

    4. Re:HDD endurance? by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course video writing is the perfect application for hard drives. A constant datastream at a fixed rate and large amounts of data over time, with few random IO and only bulk delete. If you are trying to stick a SSD in a PVR you are doing it wrong.

    5. Re:HDD endurance? by Hamsterdan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Recording TV is not a typical scenario. Besides, at around 8GB/hour (HD), that's around 2000 hours a year, which is little more than what my BeyondTV machine does, and its 3TB WD green is still alive and kicking. You just have to disable the insanely aggressive head parking on those drives otherwise they might die...

      http://www.storagereview.com/h...

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    6. Re:HDD endurance? by Bengie · · Score: 4, Informative

      The controller is just as likely to fair on a regular HD. Overall, SSDs have 1/2 of the warranty claim rate of mechanical HDs. Samsung is so sure of their SSDs, they have a 10 year warranty on their new ones, or 150TB written, which is a lot of writes for a 128GB drive. Show me a mechanical drive with a 10 year warranty for under $150

  2. They're leaving money on the table... by RealGene · · Score: 3, Insightful

    However, the fact that all the drives far exceeded their endurance specifications bodes well for the endurance of consumer-grade SSDs in general.

    No, I think it means that the first ones were over-engineered, and the next generation will meet their stated MTBF number to within 1 standard deviation.

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  3. Most people write far less. by PlusFiveTroll · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most hard drive I see in consumer and business use write far less than that over their lifetimes. I have a customers hard drive I am copying data from currently. Has 15,147 power on hours, it has only written 1.3TB of data. It's very uncommon to see drives with over 6TB of data written (in the 500GB to 1TB drive range).

    The other client SSD in my computer is a Samsung 830 256GB SSD that I just migrated to a 1TB SSD for a customer. Was used for about a year and a half before they needed a bigger drive. They used Outlook, a number of Autocad applications, lots of project files, a good sized collection of work related photos. The drive has 995GB of writes and is showing no SMART issues.

    Average computer users have nothing to worry about when it comes to wearing a SSD out. Power users might have a problem depending on the nature of their work, but they also get the most benefit from high write speeds and IOPS. Servers, depending on their usage patters could have a problem, I certainly recommend the enterprise style drives that reserve a much larger amount of space.

    1. Re:Most people write far less. by jeffmeden · · Score: 3

      However my company found that in testing, the more number of writes to a flash device, the shorter time before the data is leaked out. So after 10,000 writes to the same location, I can read the data a month later with no errors, but at 50,000 writes I start getting errors after about 2 hours. It seems like flash storage is like a bucket of water, each erase pokes a tiny hole in the bucket. After awhile those tiny holes add up and the bucket leaks pretty fast. So long term storage is not as safe as a conventional hard drive.

      Wear leveling will prevent any cell from getting even close to that. The article is in reference to the wonder of SSDs getting over 2,000,000GB of writes across 240GB of flash. That's 8,300 erase cycles in what is certainly considered an "Extreme" scenario. In consumer desktop usage almost no one will pass the 1,000 mark, and most will stay below the 500 mark before they scrap their PC for a new one.

  4. Random failures by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Great, so now we just need to fix the sudden random failures where the drive completely fails but it is 6 months old and showed no signs of degradation. A coworker of mine just had that happen with a Crucial SSD.

    1. Re:Random failures by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Informative

      Great, so now we just need to fix the sudden random failures where the drive completely fails but it is 6 months old and showed no signs of degradation.

      Just counted - the stack on my workbench of completely dead SSD's is 13. I think I've seen one hard drive ever go completely dead. I literally don't understand how the vendors think they can get away with such junk on SSD controllers. I know flash will fail, but that's no reason to hang dead on the SATA bus and not talk to anybody. Admit defeat by SMART and move on.

      I don't always use SSD's for journals, but when I do they're in a RAID configuration. Stay speedy, my friends.

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  5. Drives obsolete by the time the test completes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unfortunately these tests don't say much about the drives you can buy NOW, and write endurance in consumer drives is probably getting worse as geometry shrinks and relentless price pressure causes corners to be cut. It's good that the Samsung 840 Pro is holding up so well (its predecessor the 830 was also ridiculously durable) but it's now replaced by the 850 Pro which uses radical new technology (stacked chips). The Intel 320 was also very durable so the failure of the 335 doesn't bode very well for the idea that newer models should hold up better than older ones.

    Write wear isn't everything anyway. Another thing to test is whether the drive can brick if the power fails while the drive is writing. Better drives have capacitors to deal with this event. Consumer drives lack them and can lose data or fail unrecoverably.

  6. Re:Any criticism? by Kardos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The only weakness is that it needs to be repeated on newer ssds as they hit the market. The results of this test are relevant for drives released back when the experiment started in 2013, less so for drives released now and even less so for future drives. As the manufacturers realise that the drives are lasting much longer than they are specified to, they'll decide they are overengineered and rework them to wear out quicker. Aside from the obvious cost cutting benefit, it also keeps the market segmented in various grades between "low end consumer ssds" and "high end enterprise ssds".

  7. from experience, SSD failures not from wear by BLToday · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From my experiences, most of SSD failures come from dead controllers and not wear. Or bad firmware, I'm looking at you Crucial and your 5000 hour bug. Also your weird incompatibles on your MX100 series.